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Title: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: PCEngineFX on 11/22/2011, 06:37 PM
After a short downtime, the pcengine-fx.com forums are back up.  Shoutbox has been removed due to abuse.  Looking into other changes as well.
Title: Re: 11.22.11 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Bernie on 11/22/2011, 06:37 PM
:(  The shoutbox was the best part of this site!!!!  :(:(:(
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: SMF on 11/22/2011, 06:45 PM
Shoutbox was nice but I hardly ever used it. Glad your back up.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: NecroPhile on 11/22/2011, 06:46 PM
Thanks for bringing the ol' girl back to life and in relatively short order.  It's a Thanksgiving Day treat!
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 11/22/2011, 06:52 PM
It's funny because I habitually selected the forums from my bookmarks as I usually do and started reading threads.  All was normal until I realized "Holy crap!  I'm looking at PCEFX and it's back up!"

Anyway, I personally will not miss the shoutbox.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Bernie on 11/22/2011, 06:58 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 11/22/2011, 06:52 PMIt's funny because I habitually selected the forums from my bookmarks as I usually do and started reading threads.  All was normal until I realized "Holy crap!  I'm looking at PCEFX and it's back up!"

Anyway, I personally will not miss the shoutbox.
I do the same thing, and hadnt done it today.  I however will miss the shoutbox, a lot.  Im sure I am not alone.  A lot of us have met some really good people in the shoutbox.  I guess its just more personal.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: chany60126 on 11/22/2011, 07:05 PM
I too will miss the shoutbox dearly. I spend more time on there than browsing the site. Lots of great people I like to talk to on there. How has the shoutbox been abused?? Sure we didn't always talk about Turbografx related topics, but we kept it clean. Anyway, glad the site is up again at least.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: nat on 11/22/2011, 07:20 PM
He doesn't mean abused topic-wise.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: T2KFreeker on 11/22/2011, 07:37 PM
I'm trying to understand the "Abused" comment as well since it sems like we were using it for what it was designed for. :-k
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Bernie on 11/22/2011, 07:40 PM
Its how the site was compromised.  Not that we were abusing it.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: PCEngineFX on 11/22/2011, 08:01 PM
I'll see if I can get some kind of "shoutbox style" chat running on the forum for people to use.  Can't say when, as I first need to see if everything is secure on the site the way it is right now.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Windy on 11/22/2011, 08:11 PM
I dont know if you can use this shoutbox but it has a ton of options its real similar to the old shoutbox and is run independantly or would this one cause security issues? I use this shoutbox at my old Phantasy Star Zero blogs although nobody uses them anymore there was a time. Take a looky:
http://www.freeshoutbox.net/ (http://www.freeshoutbox.net/)

You would need to appoint a couple of shoutbox mods which is very easily done
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: nat on 11/22/2011, 08:17 PM
People are taking this the wrong way.

Conversational topics wasn't the issue. Moderation of the shoutbox wasn't the issue. I think an unmoderated shoutbox is a good thing. It was simply a matter of security. If we can come up with some sort of real-time chat that doesn't compromise the security of the site, I think we'll be in business.

The one Windy linked to might be a contender, but Aaron will have to look it over and make the call.

For the time being, we'll have to make do without a chat interface. We operated for, what, 5 or 6 years without any kind of chat on the site? I think we can survive a little while without chat if it means we get something more secure in the long run.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Windy on 11/22/2011, 08:33 PM
that freeshoutbox does run ads on it but they disappear as people chat. ad blocker is nice using that chat :)
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Bernie on 11/22/2011, 08:43 PM
Quote from: Pcenginefx on 11/22/2011, 08:01 PMI'll see if I can get some kind of "shoutbox style" chat running on the forum for people to use.  Can't say when, as I first need to see if everything is secure on the site the way it is right now.
Thanks!  :)  Least we know it isnt totally nixed.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Sparky on 11/22/2011, 09:52 PM
glad to see it back... my wife was checking emails and she said " hey your pcefx is back up or something" i f@cking scrabbled to the computer :P..
And please look into a chat area when you can as i really think it is part of the "life" of this forum.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: M1Savage on 11/22/2011, 09:54 PM
Glad to see this place back up and running!
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 11/22/2011, 11:32 PM
I will say this:  One thing I liked about the shoutbox that was here is that it could be permanently hidden and unobtrusive.  If you look at the chat thing Neo Geo forums has, it is just awful.  You can't close/hide it and it pops up on every forum page from what I've seen (I was only at the site for 2 or 3 minutes before bailing).  So if something MUST go up, please make sure it can be permanently hidden (as in I don't have to hide it each time I visit) or park it somewhere else other than the forums.

Thanks and have a great day.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Mathius on 11/22/2011, 11:40 PM
I couldn't believe my email subs just a minute ago! <<<kisses forum quick and repeatedly on the cheek>>>
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: blueraven on 11/23/2011, 12:50 AM
Aaron; Thanks dude for getting the forum back up so quickly.  =D> And thanks for all that you've been doing, man. I understand the trials and tribulations of being a webhost, and am all too familiar with what happens when a client's site goes down.

Whatever you need to do to keep it going, cool.

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 11/22/2011, 06:52 PMAnyway, I personally will not miss the shoutbox.
I've only seen you ONCE in chat since I joined. haha. It was during the "Is fighting street going away" thing.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: rag-time4 on 11/23/2011, 12:52 AM
There are some guys like chop, steve, coolmod, and blueBMW who have been using the shoutbox heavily over recent years to help each other and everyone else with real time technical help with regard to repairs etc. Lots of progress has been made. Ive had lots of great conversations and lots of fun on the shoutbox since its been added, and i hope that finding a replacement is given high priority.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Tatsujin on 11/23/2011, 12:53 AM
Damn. Arron thx a lot fot the fast meassures to bring the site back on track :D

As for the shouter, yeah that was one hell of an important part of this site (imo).

To uphold the security, can't the shouter be run on a different/separated host/site/whatever, and just be embedded in here?

Sure I have no real clue about such issues. Just try to figure out..hehe ^^
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: thesteve on 11/23/2011, 02:21 AM
that sounds feasible to me tats

crazy thing is shout never went down, during the forum outage
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Duo_R on 11/23/2011, 03:11 AM
Thanks for getting the site back up and so fast! For sure we can wait on the shoutbox but I also think  it is important component of this website. I have helped and been helped with mods and repairs here using the chat feature here.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: c0ldb33r on 11/23/2011, 06:07 AM
Awesome thanks for fixing the site.

I personally don't care about the shout box. I've never used it.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Mathius on 11/23/2011, 11:58 AM
Quote from: rag-time4 on 11/23/2011, 12:52 AMThere are some guys like chop, steve, coolmod, and blueBMW who have been using the shoutbox heavily over recent years to help each other and everyone else with real time technical help with regard to repairs etc. Lots of progress has been made. Ive had lots of great conversations and lots of fun on the shoutbox since its been added, and i hope that finding a replacement is given high priority.
This.


Plus, where else can Tats and me talk about Follin and teh SID? :wink:
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: hoobs88 on 11/23/2011, 12:46 PM
Are there any other changes besides the lack of Shoutbox?
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 11/23/2011, 05:10 PM
That particular shoutbox was crap, anyway.  People's names would constantly change color, making it hard to keep track of conversations.  If people could choose their own color or were assigned a color upon entry, that would be cool... though we'd have to hack it so that Arkhan would always get pink.  :)
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: VestCunt on 11/23/2011, 08:23 PM
Thanks Aaron!
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Samurai Ghost on 11/24/2011, 07:04 AM
Great to see the site back!
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: chany60126 on 11/24/2011, 11:44 AM
If I could offer a suggestion, it would be great if the mods could check up and update the high score threads more regularly. Many of these high score threads are started by people who don't post often. I just noticed a few of these that haven't been updated in a long while like Blazing Lazers and Super Star Soldier.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: munchiaz on 11/24/2011, 02:05 PM
this is great news. Glad to see the site back up.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: TheClash603 on 11/24/2011, 02:26 PM
Ohhh yeah!  Welcome back everyone, now I have something extra to be thankful for!

Shoutbox I will miss, but this is a great step 1!
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: nat on 11/24/2011, 03:06 PM
Quote from: chany60126 on 11/24/2011, 11:44 AMIf I could offer a suggestion, it would be great if the mods could check up and update the high score threads more regularly. Many of these high score threads are started by people who don't post often. I just noticed a few of these that haven't been updated in a long while like Blazing Lazers and Super Star Soldier.
It's hard when some members post a ton of incrementally higher scores for numerous days in a row. It's sort of a deterrent with regards to updating the master lists when I know they're just going to post a new, higher score the very next day. :P

That said, I'll try to get them updated a little more often.

EDIT: I just updated a bunch of them.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: chany60126 on 11/24/2011, 03:41 PM
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Tatsujin on 11/24/2011, 08:35 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 11/23/2011, 11:58 AMPlus, where else can Tats and me talk about Follin and teh SID? :wink:
very good and important point ma fren :!:
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: CGQuarterly on 11/24/2011, 11:35 PM
Can't we just use an IRC channel instead of having the shout box?
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Tatsujin on 11/24/2011, 11:47 PM
IRC is so 90s
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: guyjin on 11/24/2011, 11:55 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 11/24/2011, 11:47 PMIRC is so 90s
so is teh PCE!
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: MotherGunner on 11/25/2011, 02:59 AM
LOL isn't "They Live" so 1988?
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Vecanti on 11/25/2011, 04:15 AM
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 11/24/2011, 11:35 PMCan't we just use an IRC channel instead of having the shout box?
Opera has a built in IRC client.  So that makes it easy.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: geise on 11/25/2011, 09:39 PM
Aaron I am so thankful for all the hard work you put into getting it all up and running again!  I was sad to see the shout not up but figured it was not there due to it being a security hazard for the site.  If there is ever a shout/chat box that works like what was on sunteam's amazing backup forum, that would be great.  The way it opened up in a totally different section was great.  Thanks again for all the work in restoring the forums.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: geralds on 11/26/2011, 06:36 PM
Glad the site back up but untill the shout box is back up oh well.  Iv basicly lost all motivation to log in till the shout box is up basicly all i used rarely did i ever use the forums sence iv joined.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 11/27/2011, 12:03 AM
I haven't really been following this thread since it is mostly people just saying "thanks" but I just checked in.  Man people sure have a hard-on for this Shoutbox thing.  Where do people get the time to sit on their ass and type a whole back and forth conversation?  I like the forums because I'm usually in and out within 5 minutes.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Mathius on 11/27/2011, 01:02 AM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 11/27/2011, 12:03 AMI haven't really been following this thread since it is mostly people just saying "thanks" but I just checked in.  Man people sure have a hard-on for this Shoutbox thing.  Where do people get the time to sit on their ass and type a whole back and forth conversation?  I like the forums because I'm usually in and out within 5 minutes.
It's real-time interaction with fellow Turbonuts, with some being good friends. Talking chiptunes with Tatsujin, console modding with BlueBMW, and shootin the shit with guys like Ceti, Sparky, D-Dan, Chany, Nectarsis, etc. Out of all the sites I have ever been a member of PCFX has the closest bunch of yahoos around.

...and I consider you in that pack, joejoe. :)
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 11/27/2011, 01:44 AM
That's nice of you but I do feel more like an outsider here who loves the Turbo but isn't bonkers-obsessed with it.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: nat on 11/27/2011, 03:38 AM
...whose instead bonkers-obsessed with the Genesis.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 11/27/2011, 04:59 AM
You only think that because I'm not as bonkers-obsessed with the Turbo.  Kind of the whole "If your not with us, you're against us" mentality.  Nice try, Bush.  :)
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Windy on 11/29/2011, 02:40 AM
Well I installed mibbit which an IRC based chat client hosted by mibbit. you can also login using an irc client such as Xchat or Pidgeon or just login here at the Hupack. If you can Aaron this is a really nice free chat with the bells and whistles and is a simple copy and pasted to embed it http://hupack.blogspot.com/ (http://hupack.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: _Paul on 12/02/2011, 01:29 PM
Has Nat got admin access yet?
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 12/02/2011, 10:36 PM
We both have the ability to approve members now.  That's about it as far as I know.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: BlueBMW on 12/02/2011, 11:10 PM
Aww, so no more noob bombs every few months?
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 12/03/2011, 03:27 AM
LOL.  According to the notification e-mails I'm getting several people sign up each and every day.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: _Paul on 12/03/2011, 04:27 AM
Do you have the power to add stuff like the animated custom emotes I added on the temp forum?
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: nat on 12/03/2011, 05:00 AM
It doesn't appear so.

I can, however, "censor" words.

I could change all instances of "Nintega" to "Dirty Rotten Scumbag," for example.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: blueraven on 12/03/2011, 05:14 AM
Quote from: BlueBMW on 12/02/2011, 11:10 PMAww, so no more noob bombs every few months?
LOL. The noob deluge was always one of my favorite parts of the shoutbox.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Bernie on 12/03/2011, 08:56 AM
Quote from: nat on 12/03/2011, 05:00 AMIt doesn't appear so.

I can, however, "censor" words.

I could change all instances of "Nintega" to "Dirty Rotten Scumbag," for example.
Do so!  lol
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Duo_R on 12/08/2011, 02:52 PM
Can someone please approve my brother to register here? His username is Bloody Wolf and registered today.

Thanks!

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/03/2011, 03:27 AMLOL.  According to the notification e-mails I'm getting several people sign up each and every day.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: nat on 12/08/2011, 06:51 PM
We're approving new users on a daily basis now. There's no reason to post a message every time someone new signs up.
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Joe Redifer on 12/09/2011, 01:33 AM
Yeah at most they'll have to wait a few hours.  Certainly never more than a day.  Sometimes it will almost be immediate.  Nat's pretty fast on the trigger.  ;)
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 12/12/2011, 09:07 AM
I have had a PCEFX IRC channel on Rizon for awhile now.  It's registered and everything.  The only problem is apparently noone uses IRC anymore except programmers and morons who think they are programmers.

irc.rizon.com ---> get to #pcefx  \o/ duhrrr

and Joe, I'd love a permanently pink name.  Do it.

Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: thesteve on 12/12/2011, 12:10 PM
Hmm.....I think i have Pidgeon installed
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: Windy on 12/14/2011, 12:09 AM
Quote from: nat on 12/03/2011, 05:00 AMIt doesn't appear so.

I can, however, "censor" words.

I could change all instances of "Nintega" to "Dirty Rotten Scumbag," for example.
Oh Man Nat this would be so fun! DO IT! LOL
Title: Re: 11.22.2011 - Forum back up & changes
Post by: blueraven on 12/27/2011, 03:30 AM
Quote from: thesteve on 12/12/2011, 12:10 PMHmm.....I think i have Pidgeon installed
That's what I run as well.