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Title: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/14/2012, 05:52 AM
WTF.  I'm glad I didn't pay much for this because it seems pretty lame.

And on a differeent subject, Shubibinman 3 doesn't have enough lives/continues.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: CrackTiger on 05/14/2012, 07:40 AM
If you're talking about Monster Lair, it's one of the most fun games on the system.

I find Shubibinman 3 relatively easy, unpolished and way too short. There's only something like 4 stages.

I'm guessing that you have yet to get the hang of either game.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/14/2012, 08:01 AM
Quote from: guest on 05/14/2012, 07:40 AMIf you're talking about Monster Lair, it's one of the most fun games on the system.

I find Shubibinman 3 relatively easy, unpolished and way too short. There's only something like 4 stages.

I'm guessing that you have yet to get the hang of either game.
I've only played each one once - Shubibinman isn't too bad, I got to the snow stage.  The stages seem quite long.
But Wonderboy...  I can't really see how it could get any better.  It's a pretty basic concept, and I can think of many games in my collection that are more fun (IMO) let alone the whole system...

But I will say, Shubibinman (as a series) is clearly an attempt to better Mega Man, and the ways they thought they'd bettered it turn out to be its downfall.

*edit* £1.75 I paid for Wonderboy.  It's not bad for that price.  I've been getting some crazy bargains recently.
Wow, check this out, my most recent eBay PCE buys:

Conan future boy £2.20
Emerald Dragon   £2.20
Op Wolf (loose)  £4.20
Space Harrier and R-type  £2.70
Energy       £2.11
Wonderboy III    £1.75
Shadow of the b    £0.99
Ys I and II (TG) £3.20
Red Alert    £4.97
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: SuperDeadite on 05/14/2012, 08:16 AM
Holy shit you got Energy!  Why are you posting here?  Go play that awesome game before someone steals it from you.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/14/2012, 08:21 AM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 05/14/2012, 08:16 AMHoly shit you got Energy!  Why are you posting here?  Go play that awesome game before someone steals it from you.
My sarcasm-sense is tingling
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:28 AM
Quote from: soop on 05/14/2012, 05:52 AMWTF.  I'm glad I didn't pay much for this because it seems pretty lame.
120% Troll?
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/14/2012, 08:32 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:28 AM
Quote from: soop on 05/14/2012, 05:52 AMWTF.  I'm glad I didn't pay much for this because it seems pretty lame.
120% Troll?
Not trolling, it's just super basic.  The only challenge seems to come from paying attention to it because it's so dull.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:39 AM
Quote from: soop on 05/14/2012, 08:32 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:28 AM
Quote from: soop on 05/14/2012, 05:52 AMWTF.  I'm glad I didn't pay much for this because it seems pretty lame.
120% Troll?
Not trolling, it's just super basic.  The only challenge seems to come from paying attention to it because it's so dull.
Seems to be a helpless case to me  #-o
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: SuperDeadite on 05/14/2012, 08:50 AM
Tats stop being a bitch.  You are distracting him from playing ENERGY.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/14/2012, 09:51 AM
I was just reading the Brothers Duomazov review, and they seem to concur with my general impressions, although they do wind up giving it a thumbs up.

I suppose one problem is that I have so many games now it's easier to focus on the "better" games at the cost of the lesser games.  And I'm nowhere near completing all the good ones.

I think I'm going to concentrate as much as possible on a select group, notably:
Gate of Thunder
Soldier Blade
Pomping World

And try and complete them, or at least wear them out a little.  then I'll go down to the next tier, then the tier after etc.  One day I may find my way down to the likes of Wonderboy III and perhaps feel compelled to stick with it.

But it hadn't been so nice this weekend I would have been tempted to download Minecraft on the 360
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 09:54 AM
as i just said.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: NecroPhile on 05/14/2012, 11:37 AM
Monster Lair is lame?!?.... you obviously suck.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/14/2012, 11:47 AM
Quote from: guest on 05/14/2012, 11:37 AMMonster Lair is lame?!?.... you obviously suck.
Obviously.  Like everyone goes on about how amazing CD games are, and in general, I think I like way more Hu Card games than CD games.  The best CD games I have (IMO) are Gate of Thunder, Sapphire and Pomping World and there's only about 3-4 others that I'm really looking for
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: _Paul on 05/14/2012, 12:43 PM
Monster Lair is the Galaga of platformers. Simple gameplay but an awesomeness bag of fun.
Schbibin Man 3 is super-easy. I enjoy just playing through it more than many other games.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: PunkCryborg on 05/14/2012, 12:53 PM
If you don't like shubi iii and monster lair you might be more interested in playing Philips CDi instead.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: GohanX on 05/14/2012, 02:29 PM
Monster Lair is one of my favorites, but I can see how someone wouldn't like it.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:09 PM
 
Quote from: JKM on 05/14/2012, 02:29 PMbut I can see how someone wouldn't like it.
lol, I absolutely can't.

1. has one of the best red book audio.
2. is an almost arcade perfect port (only missing the parallax), but has the much more awesome score.
3. came out in 1988 as one of the first cd-rom games in history of any video games. 80s arcade at its best.
4. is like at least 3x better than its sega mega drive counter part (makes it look like a sms game).
5. superb visuals, speed, dynamics, controlls for its time.

lol, want do you want more?
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:11 PM
Quote from: guest on 05/14/2012, 11:37 AMMonster Lair is lame?!?.... you obviously suck.
Quote from: guest on 05/14/2012, 12:43 PMMonster Lair is the Galaga of platformers. Simple gameplay but an awesomeness bag of fun.
Schbibin Man 3 is super-easy. I enjoy just playing through it more than many other games.
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 05/14/2012, 12:53 PMIf you don't like shubi iii and monster lair you might be more interested in playing Philips CDi instead.
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Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: city41 on 05/14/2012, 09:21 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:09 PMlol, want do you want more?
I want more variety. It's the same thing over and over and over again. For it's time it's a decent game. But it has not aged well at all.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 09:29 PM
yeah well then better sell all your pce/tg16 etc. stuff and get a PS3/xbox360 instead.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: city41 on 05/14/2012, 09:30 PM
Most of the PCE's great games are still great today, just Monster Lair isn't one of them is all.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: RegalSin on 05/14/2012, 09:38 PM
Monster lair is great, it is just that it is a shooter, and everybody was expecting maze madness, like in Dragons Trap.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: roflmao on 05/14/2012, 09:44 PM
I'm just chiming in in favor of Monster Lair.  I find it pretty challenging, but love the gameplay, colorful graphics and catchy tunes.  It' not my favorite game for the system, but it's certainly a classic in my book. 

Some of that may be due to nostaligia, since it was one of the earliest games I remember playing in the system, but I think sunteam_paul hit the nail on the head relating it to Galaga.  It's repetitive, but captures the essence of a classic 80's arcade game while still mixing things up. 

Every time I see Monster Lair mentioned on these forums I remember how much I enjoy that game and go play it... And this is no exception.  Gotta go! :D
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: PunkCryborg on 05/14/2012, 10:00 PM
Quote from: city41 on 05/14/2012, 09:30 PMMost of the PCE's great games are still great today, just Monster Lair isn't one of them is all.
Some of the most fun I've had playing pce with a friend has been playing ML. Give it a shot. Play it some mroe too, its pretty tough and there are a ton of levels. The more you play it the better you get and the challenge is a lot of fun
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/15/2012, 12:15 AM
Ok he's right. Played it again. What a cheap, boring, dull, repetitive and frowsy mental underload this is.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on 05/15/2012, 01:28 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/15/2012, 12:15 AMOk he's right. Played it again. What a cheap, boring, dull, repetitive and frowsy mental underload this is.
Frowsy??

Anyways, I love the game personally.  I do wonder if some or all of the paralax might've been possible if made a little later in the PCE timeframe.  IIRC, all the levels are completely forced scrolling, I can't think of one instance where it isn't.  Also, IIRC, it's all horizontal, there is no multi-scrolling screen, other then maybe in the cave levels, which I don't think have any paralax.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/15/2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 05/15/2012, 01:28 AMFrowsy??
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Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/15/2012, 04:58 AM
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 05/14/2012, 12:53 PMIf you don't like shubi iii and monster lair you might be more interested in playing Philips CDi instead.
I do Like Shubibinman 3.  Never said I didn't.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/15/2012, 05:03 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/14/2012, 08:09 PM
Quote from: JKM on 05/14/2012, 02:29 PMbut I can see how someone wouldn't like it.
lol, I absolutely can't.

1. has one of the best red book audio.
2. is an almost arcade perfect port (only missing the parallax), but has the much more awesome score.
3. came out in 1988 as one of the first cd-rom games in history of any video games. 80s arcade at its best.
4. is like at least 3x better than its sega mega drive counter part (makes it look like a sms game).
5. superb visuals, speed, dynamics, controlls for its time.

lol, want do you want more?
1.  Great music is fine if the game is fun, but all the great music in the world doesn't make a bad game good.
2.  An arcade perfect port of a dull game doesn't make it a good game.
3.  Just because a game is old, it doesn't make it good.
4.  Just because it's better than another version, it doesn't make this version good.
5.  Just because the controls were good then, it doesn't make the game interesting now.

I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: Tatsujin on 05/15/2012, 05:05 AM
Quote from: soop on 05/15/2012, 05:03 AMI'm just sayin'.
OK, and now go play the energy :)
Title: Re: Wonderboy III
Post by: soop on 05/15/2012, 05:11 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/15/2012, 05:05 AMOK, and now go play the energy :)
:P