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Title: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/04/2015, 03:45 PM
Ok, am I missing something, or just looking in the wrong place? It seems like years back you could buy these dirt cheap, like under $10, to use Nes carts on like the Yobo Famiclones. I was wanting to get one to use on my Famicom so I could start buying certain Nes titles, but any of the ones I am seeing are like $30+. Is this the normal price for these things now? I did spot one seller who had them as straight pcbs with a cart connector, but I'd be weary of that on the off chance it tips forward or something. With the Famicom gamepad cords being so short that just seems like something likely to happen.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: o.pwuaioc on 08/04/2015, 03:59 PM
Here's one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shielded-72-pin-to-60-pin-adaptor-Converter-for-nes-game-Famicom-Console-System-/221840689148?hash=item33a6bc47fc) at $10, and there are more on ebay. I know it's the case that even a couple years ago they topped out at $10, but everything Japanese is creeping up in price lately.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: SephirothTNH on 08/04/2015, 04:00 PM
I too am interested in the answer to this.  I was recently in the same boat and decided to put the idea on the back burner.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/04/2015, 04:02 PM
Quote from: guest on 08/04/2015, 03:59 PMHere's one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shielded-72-pin-to-60-pin-adaptor-Converter-for-nes-game-Famicom-Console-System-/221840689148?hash=item33a6bc47fc) at $10, and there are more on ebay. I know it's the case that even a couple years ago they topped out at $10, but everything Japanese is creeping up in price lately.
Yeah that one is bid only. Its on watch, but it will probably go up a bit more before it ends. I am wondering if it is even feasible to buy one, or to opt to get a Nes instead to play Nes stuff. Guess I should look at Nes prices too.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: DeshDildo on 08/04/2015, 04:03 PM
I had purchased one from stoneagegamer.com a couple years ago for less than $20.  It appears their site is currently down so I can't verify if they still have them or not anymore.  The ones they had were pretty decent.  I sold mine with the rest of my Famicom stuff about a year ago.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/04/2015, 04:04 PM
Quote from: Desh on 08/04/2015, 04:03 PMI had purchased one from stoneagegamer.com a couple years ago for less than $20.  It appears their site is currently down so I can't verify if they still have them or not anymore.  The ones they had were pretty decent.  I sold mine with the rest of my Famicom stuff about a year ago.
They are listed as sold out on there.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: TR0N on 08/05/2015, 03:05 AM
Quote from: guest on 08/04/2015, 03:59 PMHere's one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shielded-72-pin-to-60-pin-adaptor-Converter-for-nes-game-Famicom-Console-System-/221840689148?hash=item33a6bc47fc) at $10, and there are more on ebay. I know it's the case that even a couple years ago they topped out at $10, but everything Japanese is creeping up in price lately.
That's the converter i have for the famicom av.Works great to long as the connectors are clean on said nes game it's great.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 08/06/2015, 10:20 AM
I have a Yobo brand one. It works, but you'd better have a damn clean cart and not have a draft in the room, tug the controller too hard or anything else or you game will freeze. There's just not enough support in the way it was constructed to keep the longer NES cartridges from stabilized.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: wilykat on 08/06/2015, 03:33 PM
How about using some of the sticky tack like those used for sticking poster to wall? Insert carts, apply some tack on both side of the carts to keep it from wiggling at all. They generally come off easy and clean when done.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 08/06/2015, 05:25 PM
Quote from: wilykat on 08/06/2015, 03:33 PMHow about using some of the sticky tack like those used for sticking poster to wall? Insert carts, apply some tack on both side of the carts to keep it from wiggling at all. They generally come off easy and clean when done.
I'd have to see what you're talking about. But something that has a larger plastic base around it would probably be needed.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: wilykat on 08/06/2015, 07:34 PM
Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Elmers-Poster-Reusable-Adhesive-E1531/dp/B000BKQDB4 (http://www.amazon.com/Elmers-Poster-Reusable-Adhesive-E1531/dp/B000BKQDB4)

Thicker and less greasy than playing clay and doesn't dry out like play-doh.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: xcrement5x on 08/07/2015, 03:25 PM
After spending some time scouring Aliexpress I found this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-NES-card-turn-FC-host-using-72-feet-turn-60-feet-converter-in-high/1069576571.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-NES-card-turn-FC-host-using-72-feet-turn-60-feet-converter-in-high/1069576571.html)

Maybe would work?  I dunno, but it's only $15 shipped from China!
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/07/2015, 03:33 PM
Probably would work, but its basically the same thing I just won on ebay. I have never ordered from Ali before.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: xcrement5x on 08/07/2015, 05:19 PM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 08/07/2015, 03:33 PMProbably would work, but its basically the same thing I just won on ebay. I have never ordered from Ali before.
Most likely, AliExpress is pretty solid sometimes but you gotta do your legwork.  They even sell Saturn Action replay units for like $25.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 08/07/2015, 06:10 PM
Quote from: guest on 08/07/2015, 05:19 PMMost likely, AliExpress is pretty solid sometimes but you gotta do your legwork.  They even sell Saturn Action replay units for like $25.
So does Tototek.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: ultrageranium on 08/07/2015, 06:35 PM
Quote from: guest on 08/07/2015, 03:25 PMAfter spending some time scouring Aliexpress I found this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-NES-card-turn-FC-host-using-72-feet-turn-60-feet-converter-in-high/1069576571.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-NES-card-turn-FC-host-using-72-feet-turn-60-feet-converter-in-high/1069576571.html)

Maybe would work?  I dunno, but it's only $15 shipped from China!
And cheaper than the auction listed above which ended up at $15.51 + $6 shipping from HK.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/07/2015, 07:21 PM
I'm the one that won the auction. I'd rather pay the $6 extra and stick to what I know. Plus, I get ebay bucks back every 3 months, so there is an extra incentive to shop on ebay. And well, to be honest, if you look close at the pics, they sacked a cart and used its shell to make that one on Ali. Look close and you can see its not cut even or anything. Basically just someone selling hand made ones.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: SephirothTNH on 08/07/2015, 07:36 PM
You're right.  But maybe they are sacking pirate carts?  I think I may order one soon.  If I do I'll report back on anything interesting.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/07/2015, 07:43 PM
Yeah I'm curious as to how they are. It looks like they filled in the inside with hot glue, which I am guess is to prevent wobble.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: xcrement5x on 08/10/2015, 11:02 AM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 08/07/2015, 07:43 PMYeah I'm curious as to how they are. It looks like they filled in the inside with hot glue, which I am guess is to prevent wobble.
Yeah, I am normally skeptical of a lot of stuff from China.  Many time you can tell it is the same product, just sold by various same people at prices varying slightly. 
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: ultrageranium on 08/10/2015, 07:15 PM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 08/07/2015, 07:21 PMAnd well, to be honest, if you look close at the pics, they sacked a cart and used its shell to make that one on Ali. Look close and you can see its not cut even or anything. Basically just someone selling hand made ones.
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 08/07/2015, 07:43 PMYeah I'm curious as to how they are. It looks like they filled in the inside with hot glue, which I am guess is to prevent wobble.
Oh! Well spotted, I missed such details, now that you just mention it, it does indeed look like a DIY job, as the name implies not so subtly. In fact this is pretty much something that could have been made following such an HOWTO: http://nesdev.com/NES_ADAPTER.txt (http://nesdev.com/NES_ADAPTER.txt)
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/14/2015, 06:09 PM
The adapter I ended up getting arrived today. It works fine. The cart slot pins on it grip nice and are thick. The only thing I noticed is you have to slide it to the left or right of the Nes cart once it is inserted into the adapter to make sure the pins make a perfect connection with the Nes games contacts.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: ultrageranium on 08/14/2015, 06:22 PM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 08/14/2015, 06:09 PMThe adapter I ended up getting arrived today. It works fine. The cart slot pins on it grip nice and are thick. The only thing I noticed is you have to slide it to the left or right of the Nes cart once it is inserted into the adapter to make sure the pins make a perfect connection with the Nes games contacts.
Sounds good. The game does not crash when you touch the cart or move the console?
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/14/2015, 06:30 PM
No. Slight wobble does not seem to affect it. Maybe if you jerked really hard it might. But I have no plans to do something like that. I sit pretty close to the system so that is a non-issue.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: ultrageranium on 08/14/2015, 06:50 PM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 08/14/2015, 06:30 PMNo. Slight wobble does not seem to affect it. Maybe if you jerked really hard it might. But I have no plans to do something like that. I sit pretty close to the system so that is a non-issue.
Thanks for the review :)

I'll cowardly wait to see if someone gets the one from Ali and reports back. Otherwise I might get one. I looked into doing one myself with the instructions above, but even with an existing unused FC game to cannibalise, getting a spare 72 pin connector is around 13-14$, not really worth time/money/effort.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 08/14/2015, 09:15 PM
I think I found a fix so that the connection issue can be prevented completely, as long as the cart pins are clean. Basically what it is is the pcb inside the adapters case has slack. The post from the shell in the center that hold the adapter pcb in place are a tad thinner then the actual pcb through holes. Due to that as you insert a cart on it, the adapter pcb inside the shell can be slightly forced downward, making the connectors on one side of the Nes cart slightly lose connection.

Basically on a Nes game, any given one, one side of the connectors has less length then the other side. The shorter connection side loses connection slightly due to that slack and the adapter pcb shifting position.

My fix for this was taking some strips of clear then plastic and folding them to the correct thickness to make them into wedges, then sticking them at specific spots inside the shell so that they will prevent the adapter pcb from shifting postion down low anymore. I used dabs of hot glue to keep the wedges in place. All in all it works rather well.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/2015-08-14%2020.14.32_zpswjmgykqo.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Amakusa666/media/2015-08-14%2020.14.32_zpswjmgykqo.jpg.html)

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/2015-08-14%2020.13.20_zpshpjzhcsn.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Amakusa666/media/2015-08-14%2020.13.20_zpshpjzhcsn.jpg.html)




EDIT: Yeah this fix did exactly what I expected it to do. No more slack, so the adapter pcb no longer shifts postion. So now I don't have to dick around with sliding the thing left or right on the Nes carts to try to make it connect better on some of my carts. Now everything works fine right from the get go, on the first try.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: ultrageranium on 08/15/2015, 04:11 AM
Put it back on Ebay, label it version two and sell it twice the price :)
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 09/15/2015, 08:34 PM
Just an update, found a game that seems to have issues with this adapter. Abadox. Game will power on and act ok at first, but about 40 seconds in if you shoot any enemies the game will freeze up. If you avoid shooting anyone for about a min or so you can keep playing till right after you get past the first set of teeth inside the alien planet thing. Then the game will freeze again. I need to pick up a normal Nes to confirm it is not just a defective cart, but I have a feeling the cart is fine, and it is just an issue with the adapter.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: PCEngineHell on 12/05/2015, 01:36 AM
Another update. The adapter I got also will not work with Castlevania 1. I have a Nes also, so no big deal for me, but I will continue to post when I come across Nes carts that do not work with this thing.
Title: Re: Nes to Famicom adapters?
Post by: ginoscope on 12/16/2015, 12:14 PM
Is the adapter you are using the same as this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shielded-72-pin-to-60-pin-adaptor-Converter-for-nes-game-Famicom-Console-System-/221834256884?hash=item33a65a21f4:g:lWgAAOSwrklU7spq (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shielded-72-pin-to-60-pin-adaptor-Converter-for-nes-game-Famicom-Console-System-/221834256884?hash=item33a65a21f4:g:lWgAAOSwrklU7spq)

I use the above adapter and I have no issues playing any nes game on my av famicom.  I did have to make an easy modification to let Castlevania III work.  Overall I been very happy with how this adpater works.