PCE, SNES and Genesis Screen Comparison.

CrackTiger · 05/01/2009, 08:51 PM

Here are some of the newer Valis III shots matched up, including a couple from sega-16-

Genesis	PC Engine

Joe Redifer · 05/01/2009, 09:07 PM

The PCE version is a touch dimmer but that is because it matches the dark, emotional tone of the game.

Arkhan Asylum · 05/01/2009, 10:31 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/01/2009, 09:07 PMThe PCE version is a touch dimmer but that is because it matches the dark, emotional tone of the game.

there is nothing dark and emotional about panty shots at random.

spenoza · 05/01/2009, 10:43 PM

That all depends on who's wearing the panties.

Arkhan Asylum · 05/02/2009, 01:22 AM

Quote from: guest on 05/01/2009, 10:43 PMThat all depends on who's wearing the panties.

very
very
true

Im sorry.

nat · 05/02/2009, 01:27 AM

For shits and giggles someone should do Rondo of Blood vs. Symphony of the Night (Playstation). Not the same game I know, and I own and have played through both, but a side-by-side would be fun since there are some of the same locations appearing in both.

Tatsujin · 05/02/2009, 02:07 AM

and they recycled a lot of the rondo enemies just 1:1.

ParanoiaDragon · 05/02/2009, 03:51 AM

Why is Bobbin Threadbare attacking Princess Varna?!?

awack · 05/02/2009, 05:13 AM

Further down are side by side comparison shots, the clock tower has the most similar layout but i don't have any shots of that level.

Hey Tom, none of the rom sites i trust have BC Kid but from screen shots Ive seen look less colorful than bonk, of course bonk 2 is the bonk i think of when i think of the pce games.

Rondo SOTN

Tatsujin · 05/02/2009, 05:19 AM

it's amazing how good the pce can compete with the psx gekka no yasoukyoku grafx. and that was almost 32bit state of the art 2D grafx! considering the pce is almost a decade older than the psx.

_Paul · 05/02/2009, 06:01 AM

Wow, the PCE version holds up really well in those shots, considering the age difference.

Arkhan Asylum · 05/02/2009, 06:21 AM

wow

there is some badass reasoning of why the PCE kicks a whole lot of ass.

The only system Ive seen compete equally is late end SNES stuff like Bahamut Lagoon and Chrono Trigger.

boogiecat · 05/02/2009, 10:12 AM

Quote from: guest on 05/02/2009, 06:01 AMWow, the PCE version holds up really well in those shots, considering the age difference.

Yeah im surprised also!!

Ceti Alpha · 05/02/2009, 10:58 AM

Quote from: boogiecat on 05/02/2009, 10:12 AM
Quote from: guest on 05/02/2009, 06:01 AMWow, the PCE version holds up really well in those shots, considering the age difference.
Yeah im surprised also!!

Holy F%#*!!!

I can't believe how well the PCE holds up. There's one or two shots where the PCE actually looks better. I'm impressed.

Tatsujin · 05/02/2009, 11:04 AM

but are we honest, not really that big surprirse there at all, not?

termis · 05/02/2009, 11:27 AM

Those were great shots. Some of those Rondo sprites were definitely seemed to pop up later in SOTN.

No doubt that SOTN is better looking, but Rondo sure did age well for a game on an 8-bit system!

CrackTiger · 05/02/2009, 11:49 AM

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 05/02/2009, 03:51 AM
Why is Bobbin Threadbare attacking Princess Varna?!?

He's not attacking her, he's just waving hello.

spenoza · 05/02/2009, 01:56 PM

Quote from: CrackTiger on 05/02/2009, 11:49 AM
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 05/02/2009, 03:51 AM

Why is Bobbin Threadbare attacking Princess Varna?!?
He's not attacking her, he's just waving hello.

And she's having nothing of it. She's just looking away, ignoring him. Considering a dis of that magnitude it's no wonder it turns into a boss fight.

nat · 05/02/2009, 02:12 PM

Thanks for that, awack. That was just what I had in mind.... Although it's a pity you didn't have any of the clock tower, because that was one area in particular I would have liked to see a comparison of.

awack · 05/03/2009, 01:57 AM

Hey CrackTiger, i just checked, the 1st boss in valis III for the pce doesn't have the chain.

Picture just to show some of the art and detail that most people probably don't notice in rondo.

Some snes vs genesis.

EWJ

SNES	Genesis

Fatal Fury

SNES	Genesis

World Heroes

SNES	Genesis

Joe Redifer · 05/03/2009, 12:13 PM

I always thought EWJ looked "fat" on the SNES version, but that was just because of the lower resolution of the SNES.

guyjin · 05/04/2009, 12:30 PM

Quote from: termis on 05/02/2009, 11:27 AMThose were great shots. Some of those Rondo sprites were definitely seemed to pop up later in SOTN.

No doubt that SOTN is better looking, but Rondo sure did age well for a game on an 8-bit system!

WHAT?!

How dare you say such a foolish thing. Did you not see those eye-slicing jagged lines? nasty stuff.

The PCE does not feature jagged jaggies, and is therefore better.

Joe Redifer · 05/04/2009, 12:38 PM

True, the PCE features smoooooth jaggies!

Arkhan Asylum · 05/04/2009, 06:33 PM

8 bit!?!?!

its 16!

O_O

lol

Yeah the sprites in rondo look smoother. SOTN has all those PSX sprite doodling swirly things going on where it looks like a 10x zoom of a 16x16 sprite lol. Too much jigglejaggle

spenoza · 05/05/2009, 02:42 AM

Is jigglejaggle a technical term? Is that why the Firefox spell checker is flagging it? ; )

Yeah, Dracula X is truly an impressive game, especially when compared to the SNES Dracula X.

Tatsujin · 05/05/2009, 07:41 AM

Quote from: guest on 05/05/2009, 02:42 AMespecially when compared to the SNES Dracula X.

that game is the biggest disapointment in whole history of all dracula games!

awack · 05/05/2009, 07:44 AM

Zero Wing

PC Engine	Genesis

boogiecat · 05/05/2009, 08:59 AM

As usual the PC Engine version of that game is the superior of the two..The Mega Drive version had its strong points also..

Ceti Alpha · 05/05/2009, 09:34 AM

Quote from: boogiecat on 05/05/2009, 08:59 AMAs usual the PC Engine version of that game is the superior of the two..The Mega Drive version had its strong points also..

I agree. It's not a blow out, but the colouring on the PCE port definitely brings it ahead on this one.

Tatsujin · 05/05/2009, 09:45 AM

again here. the sad thing is that the pce missing parallax and shows more flickers. but on the pure visual comparison, they're most equal.

termis · 05/05/2009, 10:22 AM

Wow, the Genny EWJ looks horrible with all the dithering (almost reminds of the old-school EGA Sierra games). For any of you that have the RGB mod on the genesis the genesis, do you actually see all the dithering? And if so, does that tend to dilute the benefit of the bright & clear color factor a bit?

As for Zero Wing, it's about 60/40 for me (edge: PCE) on this one. The parallax might bring the edge back to the Genny's court if I saw it in action.

NecroPhile · 05/05/2009, 10:49 AM

Quote from: termis on 05/05/2009, 10:22 AMAs for Zero Wing, it's about 60/40 for me (edge: PCE) on this one. The parallax might bring the edge back to the Genny's court if I saw it in action.

Same here. I'd like to see the 'chicken wire' area in action, 'cause it looks like total poo in that screen shot. Of course, I could overlook that just to see "All your base are belong to us" in action.

Arkhan Asylum · 05/05/2009, 11:36 AM

Neither looks superior in that one... they both have enough ups and downs to be on par with each other.

_Paul · 05/05/2009, 12:50 PM

Hmm it's 50/50 for me, but I do prefer the music on the Mega Drive version compared to the PCE CD tunes.

TurboXray · 05/05/2009, 10:23 PM

Quote from: termis on 05/05/2009, 10:22 AMWow, the Genny EWJ looks horrible with all the dithering (almost reminds of the old-school EGA Sierra games). For any of you that have the RGB mod on the genesis the genesis, do you actually see all the dithering? And if so, does that tend to dilute the benefit of the bright & clear color factor a bit?

Yup. You can see the dithering just fine with RGB out.

QuoteAs for Zero Wing, it's about 60/40 for me (edge: PCE) on this one. The parallax might bring the edge back to the Genny's court if I saw it in action.

IIRC, the PCE version does have some parallax. But I give the edge to the PCE version if only for the fact that it's a 64k RAM CD game, not SCD.

ParanoiaDragon · 05/06/2009, 01:25 AM

Yeah, the stars in the bg of every level are paralaxial!

awack · 05/07/2009, 06:09 PM

With Tatsujins thread about the Soldier games i decided to do a pce vs pce vs pce.

Final Soldier on left, Soldier Blade on right and Super Star Soldier on bottom, the 4th set of pics from the top, you can see that Super star soldier is missing a picture.

nat · 05/07/2009, 06:35 PM

Man, the best stages in FS come late in the game.

awack · 05/07/2009, 06:48 PM

I know, i know, the city in Final Soldier looks pretty good, ill try to knock out the rest of the levels later.

nat · 05/07/2009, 06:49 PM

The final level is just amazing, probably the coolest looking level in the entire Soldier/Gunhed catalog.

Arkhan Asylum · 05/07/2009, 11:45 PM

how about those compared to Burning Angels

boogiecat · 05/08/2009, 12:16 AM

Quote from: guest on 05/05/2009, 12:50 PMHmm it's 50/50 for me, but I do prefer the music on the Mega Drive version compared to the PCE CD tunes.

Yeah the music on the Mega Drive version was better..

Tatsujin · 05/08/2009, 04:53 AM

Quote from: guest on 05/07/2009, 11:45 PMhow about those compared to Burning Angels

nobody needs to see that. BA is far inferior to all above titles

Ceti Alpha · 05/08/2009, 08:16 AM

Final Soldier is the least graphically attractive among these titles, but it holds up better than I thought it would. SSS actually looks pretty good too. The solar eclipse effect is super cool. However, Soldier Blade is, of course, the clear winner here.

awack · 05/08/2009, 09:03 AM

In the same order as before.

Quotehow about those compared to Burning Angels

Now, thats one ugly game from what i remember, ill look for some shots to post.

Couple of shots from Burning Angel.

awack · 05/08/2009, 11:03 AM

Most people know how BM94/MB compare but im running out of the nicer looking games.

PC Engine	Genesis

Ceti Alpha · 05/08/2009, 11:05 AM

PCE all the way. The Genny isn't bad, but lacks the colour and detail of the PCE.

NecroPhile · 05/08/2009, 11:11 AM

Quote from: ceti alpha on 05/08/2009, 11:05 AMPCE all the way. The Genny isn't bad, but lacks the colour and detail of the PCE.

Agreed. Even if Mega Bomberman were better colored, it'd still be inferior for clipping off the top of the screen (those poor headless penguins).

awack · 05/08/2009, 12:03 PM

Rastan Saga II.

PC Engine	Genesis

The mega bomber man shots for the genesis are corrupt, there about a billion more colors than there should be.

Ceti Alpha · 05/08/2009, 12:41 PM

Quote from: awack on 05/08/2009, 12:03 PMThe mega bomber man shots for the genesis are corrupt, there about a billion more colors than there should be.

A billion?!

As for Rastan Saga II, the PCE takes it again.