Sērā Mūn! Uhh, I mean, Sailor Moon!

[MotoRoaderMike]

I'm such a big Sailor Moon fan, and I have been ever since 2005. The series is the stuff of legend. And the Sailor Scouts are hot too (except for Mini Moon and Saturn for obvious reasons). I'm also a big fan of the relationship between Serena and Darien. Jupiter and Venus are my favorites, because I think they're the hottest of the 8. I'm also lucky enough to have two Sailor Moon video games! One for the Super Famicom, and one for the MegaDrive. Both games are beat 'em ups, and they're very good! Wish I had a 3D0 so I could hunt down the Sailor Moon game for that!

[SignOfZeta]

Um...this is a joke, right?

Please tell me this is a joke.

[Tatsujin]

[MotoRoaderMike]

You guys are acting like this thread is about Miley Cyrus or something. What's so bad about this show?

[ParanoiaDragon]

I used to watch it bitd, when it was the only anime on tv.  It's not my favorite but it wasn't bad.  I do have the 2 games for PCE, & the 1 for 3DO.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I have every game related to SM, the entire 28 DVD series, 3 wall scrolls, 2 posters, 15 or so figurines, every card from the card game plus doubles/triples, 3 tshirts, about 90 manga, 3 sound tracks, .....and Sailor Moon valentines!

plus a watch, uh 2 of the barbie dolls, some cards and tattoos, 3 decks of playing cards, a notebook , a folder, tons of stickers, the scepter, and some other stuff.

If I were a cartoon, id tap sailor V.


back in my days at the commodore forums, I got picked on for my Sailor V avatar.   Bastards!

incase you haven't figured it out, Sailor Moon is my favorite series of all time.

[nectarsis]

[TR0N]

Ok this thread is creeping me out for the love of sailor moon.Still it's worse when going to a anime convention and seeing fatchicks dress up as the,characters from the show 

[NecroPhile]

Tee-hee. 

Still it's worse when going to a anime convention and seeing fatchicks dress up as the,characters from the show 

Sailor Moooo?  But hey (perhaps hay), fat girls need love to.

[SignOfZeta]

Ok this thread is creeping me out for the love of sailor moon.Still it's worse when going to a anime convention and seeing fatchicks dress up as the,characters from the show 

Those are the girls I thought of when I read the first post.

What's worse that that: the fat dudes dressed up as characters from the show. That was big at the east cost cons for a few years.

Just to clarify: I have no problem with 11 year old girls watching shoujo anime, and collecting all the Cardass and light-up magic princess wands and such, I just think its gross that straight grown men do the same thing. Its just creepy.

Of course this was never the intention of the shows creators who actually did make it for girls (at first anyway) and therefore it not as revolting as the mainstream loli shit that has completely taken over anime in in the past decade or so.

[MotoRoaderMike]

What does Jim Carrey have to do with any of this? And FYI, there are other male SM fans, not just myself. And I mean ALOT more.

[NecroPhile]

What does Jim Carrey have to do with any of this?

That was surely aimed at Arkhan and his Sailor Moon OCD, not you.

[nectarsis]

What does Jim Carrey have to do with any of this?

That was surely aimed at Psycho Arkhan Dildovich and his Sailor Moon OCD, not you.

Seemed pretty obvious (meaning and who it was meant for) no?

[SignOfZeta]

And FYI, there are other male SM fans, not just myself. And I mean ALOT more.

And FYI, I'm painfully aware of this fact, which is why it grosses me out so much. If you were the only guy who likes the show I'd just say, "Weird, oh well", but its pretty widespread. It was a lot more widespread back when the show was actually on the air, but I'm sure a large numbers of those guys aren't in prison/counseling/recovery yet and are at some con right now filling their fannypacks with vintage gashapon and their hats with a hundred little cloisonne pins.

Don't get me wrong, I've had the ota stink since 1979. Its just that with me its more of a fantasy, scifi, metaphysics, robot thing. Gundam Sentinel, Maschinen Krieger, Stand Alone Complex, FLCL, Run Melos, 999, Shin-chan, Lupin III, that sort of thing. My hardcore nerd-ism is more like, "I'd like to see the edge of the universe.", or, "I'd like to pilot that robot.", or "It would be so cool to get drunk with Porco Rosso". Not, "I'd sure to like be/bugger a magic princess in 9th grade."

[nectarsis]

Is it only homophobic-esque dudes that have a problem with males liking the Anime/Manga?

And you wonder why people call you out on fuckin RETARDED comments like that (you seem to mention "gay" and homophobic comments often ).  I personally could care less who likes it, being obsessed over it (or anything)...especially 20-40 year old FAT men cross-dressing as imaginary female characters is a bit scarry at best.

[SignOfZeta]

Who's calling who out on retarded comments?    As far as I can tell, I haven't made any.
being creeped out by guys liking a girly series is homophobic.  Deal with it.  Going 'hurrdhurdrrp you say homophobic alot' and implying stupid shit from it is a few things:

I feel sorry for any children you may have in the future.  God forbid they don't abide by their daddy's narrowminded view!

Holly shit. You honestly think that my disgust over grown men being SM fans has to do with me thinking they are gay, and hating/fearing them for it?

You seriously need to leave the fucking house and interact with some humans once in a while. Read a book that isn't video game or Sailor Moon related. You aren't a stupid guy by any means, but your social retardation is seriously extreme. You've missed the point completely. I've got loads more gay shit laying around my house than any Sailor Moon crap. My huge collection of Pet Shop Boys singles, for example.

I'm not grossed out by you guys because I think you are gay, I'm grossed out by you guys because I'm pretty sure you're not gay. You think adding nudie transformation sequences (I thought they were always nude?) somehow redeems your interest in the show? WTF is wrong with your brain? You thinking that is cool, or somehow a good excuse for guys old enough to shave to watch Pedobear's favorite show, only proves how over the edge you are.

Holly shit, man.

Me: Dude, you are a pervert for lusting after pubescent Rainbow Brite. WTF is wrong with you.

You: Are you nuts? I would totally bang that chick if I were a cartoon!

Motoroder Mike is so far gone he even thinks the games are good. Now that is insane. I didn't say anything when he was jizzing all over the Don Bluth laserdisc games, but this can't go unchallenged. Sorry.

[geise]

Don't forget all the crazy H doujin that's out there.  There's quite a few every Comiket.  So there's obviously older men (especially in Japan) that have a "thing" for the Sailor Moon series.  It was always a series I never cared for.  Same goes for Dragon Ball.

[Tatsujin]

Motoroder Mike is so far gone he even thinks the games are good. Now that is insane.

[Tatsujin]

Same goes for Dragon Ball.

now that was/is one of the greatest shows of ever. at least the manga is. the show just had to follow straightly the manga storyline to be the same good. but unfortunately they stuffed a lot of gap fillers in, which dropped the whole thing some bit. still excellent till after  the freezer saga, though.

[SignOfZeta]

hmmm I must have missed the straight in that one sentence, it was overpowered by the mention of fannypacks that I read in a later reply.   Most of the creepy-prison-other stuff commentary lends itself to implying homosexual or pedophile tendencies.

Well, I am implying pedophile tendencies. Not with the fanny pack thing. There I'm just implying dork tendencies.

as for the nudie scenes, youre forgetting the difference in American standards and Japanese...  the boobies aired on TV over there, and were put in to appeal to more dudes.

Its extremely rare for me to watch dubbed/censored anime, basically unheard of for me to watch dubbed/censored shows I don't even like.

another odd bit of info, after they transform, all of the chicks become more sexually proportioned.  Their legs look nicer, their boobs get bigger, and all that.   They did it on purpose. 

Congratulations, you continue to creep me out...

for someone who claims Otaku status you seem to have overlooked some commonplace information.

I'm not boasting or anything. All I'm claiming is that I too obsess endlessly over cartoons, not that I watch the same shit (or in the case of censored boobies, the same versions of shit) that you do. I mentioned this because I was trying to make it clear that I don't find anything wrong with watching assloads of anime, I just find it wrong to jerk off over "girl scout cookies".

[SignOfZeta]

Same goes for Dragon Ball.

now that was/is one of the greatest shows of ever. at least the manga is. the show just had to follow straightly the manga storyline to be the same good. but unfortunately they stuffed a lot of gap fillers in, which dropped the whole thing some bit. still excellent till after  the freezer saga, though.

Yeah, I'm too sick of Dragon Ball to actually enjoy watching it for at least another decade, but it truly was one of the greatest shows of all time. I didn't like anything after Cell.

[NecroPhile]

I don't know why you're so worked up Zeta; you know this dude is smokin' hot:

/cosplayq.jpg

[RoyVegas]

so it appeals to everyone in some form...

Not me.  I hate cartoons in any form regarless of what they are called.  I prefer the news.

[Arkhan Asylum]

hah, the news lately has been more creepier than dudes dressing up like chicks, at least in cleveland!

[RoyVegas]

the news lately has been more creepier than dudes dressing up like chicks

Quoted for truth.

[nectarsis]

Who's calling who out on retarded comments?    As far as I can tell, I haven't made any.  Unless were going by your standards which I don't think really count.

and I never said I was obsessed.  You said I was obsessed.  Amassing a collection of paraphenelia over the course of 16 years isn't obsessed.   It's being a fan.  No need to lump your blanket statement stereotype nonsense onto everyone whos a fan.

being creeped out by guys liking a girly series is homophobic.  Deal with it.  Going 'hurrdhurdrrp you say homophobic alot' and implying stupid shit from it is a few things:

• Stupid, especially when you direct it at someone who has a girlfriend you just recently insulted. Classy!
• Immature, since you're like what, 30 something?
• Funny, since you're probably projecting your own shortcomings on others to make yourself feel better.

I feel sorry for any children you may have in the future.  God forbid they don't abide by their daddy's narrowminded view!

You said you don't care who likes it, so anything you say otherwise is pointless.  Now shut up.

Liking a girly series is fine, being obsessed (Males dressing up as jailbait, etc.) is different...you don't seem to be able to differentiate the 2.

What does stating my OPINION on your GF have ANYTHING to do with this convo..oh right nothing. VERY ironic that you spend a LOT more time/effort defending Sailor Moon, and grown adults dressing as prepubescent women over your supposed GF's "honor."  SO an anime is SO much more important in your eyes?

Calling someone immature...like your grade school rants when someone disagrees.rips on something you like.  Your last "point" on your list..more assumptions you pull out of thin air.

#1 I have kids dipshit...a subject you know nothing about, so here's and idea YOU shut up. 

#2 YOU assuming people that make comments about fans of the series is AUTOMATICALLY homophobic is:

*STUPID as I never said that, once again ASSUME MUCH

*IMMATURE is grown men dressing up/lusting after a CARTOON CHARACTER. Or "MAN if I was a cartoon I'd hit Yuna/SailorX, etc.  Hell I would have LOVED being able to fly a Veritech Fighter, or Voltron Lion...when I was 7-8...saying that in my 30's...nope.
*ONCE AGAIN if someone else's "standards/OPINIONS" differ from yours..it's an "attack" on you and yours, and you have to lash out.  This Isn't high school any more killer.  If you can't deal with others opinions on a public forum you have way more issues than already posted.

[SignOfZeta]

Well, I am implying pedophile tendencies. Not with the fanny pack thing. There I'm just implying dork tendencies.

Well, there are wackjobs ruining every hobby on earth.  No need to assume they're all like that.  Its like when they strung dee snider up for doing the twister sister bit, took him to court, and quickly realized the guy is smart as fuck.

...what...the hell are you talking about? I suppose next you'll want to bring Lenny Bruce and Sacco and Vanzetti into this.

Dee Snider is an asshole, btw, but I have no doubt he would back me up on what I'm getting at here.

Its extremely rare for me to watch dubbed/censored anime, basically unheard of for me to watch dubbed/censored shows I don't even like.

So you'd safely say you don't really know too much about the show other than its got high school girls, and dudes dress up like them sometimes and the whole thing creeps you out?

OK, this is the last time I'm going to try to explain this simple concept to you. If you don't get it, then I guess I'll let us both off the hook.

I "get" Sailor Moon. I know what a Magical Princess show is. All these little factoids you are dropping here, trying to explain that the transformation sequences are part of the genre, etc. I already know about all that shit. You aren't telling me anything I don't already know. It didn't start with Sailor Moon. There is nothing wrong with Sailor Moon. There is nothing wrong with Strawberry Shortcake, Hanna Montana, whatever. These are silly shows made to be fun for pre-teen virgin females. Its fine. I've seen the entire first season (in Japanese, hence not getting the boobies being "added later") of SM, and its harmless.

What's fucked up is that straight adult men are fantasizing about FUCKING the characters in this show. The problem isn't the show, the problem is that you watch it, and it fills you with thoughts of statutory rape.

If you can't understand why your pederast mentality is disturbing to some people...well, watch what you say around cops. That's my only advice. Also, start looking at girls who have been having their period for more than just the last six months. You might be surprised.

Congratulations, you continue to creep me out...

Sorry that the common happenings of Japanese Anime/Manga creep you out.  haha does it need more fast cars, guns, and blood to be non-creepy?

Many of the common happenings of manga/anime do creep me out, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the more I try to explain that 12 year old girls are supposed to be sexually off limits to people like yourself, the more you explain how sexually arousing they are to you. Your only defense seems to be deeper self-incrimination.

You've got worse things to be creeped out about, like shows where chicks grow dicks and have sex with their brothers.

Honestly, that stuff is less disturbing because its so fringe. There are always going to be a few hardcore perverts out there. Sailor Moon was one of the most popular shows in the world during its time, and from what I've seen at least half of the American fans had neck beards and mortgages. The Pedobear army!

and you know Id bet money some of these people dress up like sailor scouts because they know it creeps people like you out, and they think its funny. 

I think this is partially true. I think some of these guys are trying to distract us from their lust for tween miniskirts by pretending to be ironically gross on the outside. Its a ruse. "Look at me! I'm looking like an obvious pervert so you can't so easily see my inner pervert. Now my purchase of hentai SM GKs will look releitivly normal!"

[nectarsis]

I think this is partially true. I think some of these guys are trying to distract us from their lust for tween miniskirts by pretending to be ironically gross on the outside. Its a ruse. "Look at me! I'm looking like an obvious pervert so you can't so easily see my inner pervert. Now my purchase of hentai SM GKs will look releitivly normal!"

Trying SO hard to be anti-establishment/"weird" LOOK AT ME!! must be the "in thing"...and pathetic.  Being yourself SHOULD be fine, but I guess going overboard to be "cool" is much better.

[NecroPhile]

Trying SO hard to be anti-establishment/"weird" LOOK AT ME!! must be the "in thing"...and pathetic.  Being yourself SHOULD be fine, but I guess going overboard to be "cool" is much better.

What if being yourself means you end up having a talk with Chris Hansen?  You're sending mixed signals here. 

[nectarsis]

Trying SO hard to be anti-establishment/"weird" LOOK AT ME!! must be the "in thing"...and pathetic.  Being yourself SHOULD be fine, but I guess going overboard to be "cool" is much better.

What if being yourself means you end up having a talk with Chris Hansen?  You're sending mixed signals here. 

Hey if you end up that route (or a Jerry Springer guest)...does that mean your choiices worked? ;)

[OldRover]

I like any anime featuring girls in super-short skirts, including SM. And yeah, I'm something of a pervert...and I don't care. I'm not a SM fan whatsoever, I just find the imagery to be sexy. And I could care less who knows it, and I could care even less what they think of it. It's a cartoon. Get over it.

[nectarsis]

LOL can one post contain any more FAIL? 

My ability to not still say I'd pilot a veritech, or Voltron is due to ohhhh I don't know growing up and realizing it's hardly realisitic. 

Report whatever post you want..I stated my OIPINION...don't like it tough shit.  FOr someone getting their panties in a wad (as usual)  bringing up me being demodded on RS (again another topic with no bearing in this convo) which is neither your beisness, or ddo you have any eal clue what you're talking about.  Funny you keep saying that same shit about others, yet do the EXACT same thing.

BTW I have been into many series/various items for weel over 15 years (Gundam, Star Wars being 2) and I CHOOSE to have what I do (and not go all weeaboo crazy over them).  Obsessed doesn't just mean what you own.  Repeatedly "if I was a cartoon I'd bang x character indeed shows (as Zeta also stated)  you need to leave the house and interact with real people.

The "you say gay homophoic crap a lot" is calling YOU out on grade school "that's gay", etc. YOU post a lot... you try and call people "cranky and crab ass" you seem to be able to dish it out, but can't take it.  WAIT A MINUTE..that's a BIG sign of immaturity.

Saying I need a "halo, angel wings, and a certificate of perfect human status" to state my opinion  (judging or otherwise) is beyond ridiculous.  When you become god let me know.  Just because you assume (as usual) that I'm cranky, blah blah blah  I'm usualy a very upbeat person (ask around).  Just because you don't like what I say, that's your issue to deal with.  I'm perfectly happy where I am, have all the trappings of a "normal" healthy life.  Just because I don't fantasize about anime chicks (which you claim to be "not serious" but talk about on a fairly regular basis...would lead MANY to think you are.    Sadly you see "old age/growing up" to be so bad..your loss, many GREAT things happen after you hit puberty, and  can deal with other people without getting all turned out over other peoples opinions (again you can dish it, but can't take it..reporting people's opinion posts, but rant like a crybaby on here..THERE'S pot meet kettle for ya).

[Arkhan Asylum]

Whatever Neccy.  I can tell you're grasping at straws since you're making less sense, and typing poorly.  All signs of a frustrated netizen. 

No matter how you try to spin it, insulting someones GF like you did isn't opinion, its being a dick.  A huge one.  You weren't joking and we both know it.

I went ahead and yanked all my posts in this thread because going at it with you is pointless.  You're just another crabass who's youth is slipping and so is your sense of radicalism.   3 pages of pissing back and forth is hardly worth anyone having to scroll through.

despite SignOfZeta having a difference of opinion, at least he carried the discussion decent and didn't let his forumgrudge gene kick in.  Talking it up with SoZ was at least stimulating and had some meat to it.

and now, whos the immature one?  The 21 year old with a hard head and alot to learn about life making obnoxious albeit valid remarks, or the 30+ year old with kids making rude comments directed at specific people and carrying on just as obnoxiously.    You seem to be having a history of this lately. 

and one last thing, welcome to age gaps.  saying "man thats gay" is typical phrasing of people in my age bracket. Whether or not its PC is irrelevant.  Deal with it.     

[nectarsis]

Typical of people in your age bracket still can = fuckin retarded (and more proof of the decline of common sense)  DEAL WITH IT.  Erase your posts after you yourself were dickish also...classy, yet I'm grasping at straws?   You claim I have a history of this lately...look around, only for egotistical/hypocrtical people.  SO who else seems to have a prob with me *waits*  My earlier comment wasn't kidding..IN MY OPINION (dickish or not I have a right to what I think) I meant what I said.  You have a serious issue realizing right, wrong or indifferent people have their own opinions..if mine hit a nerve so be it.  I have enough backbone to stand by what I say..not erase it.

"Rude" comments (and again bringing kids, etc. into it...more straw floundering eh) have NO bearing on maturity.  You sound more, and more like Ninny...anytime you see something you don't like you go on some wishy washy bender, getting all bent out of shape when people disagree/say anything bad about what you like, bringing COMPLETELY irrelevant topics in like they matter to said convo, erasing posts.

[Arkhan Asylum]

  That was your cue to delete yours too and move on dude..  PCEFX is better than this trash.

Like I said, maybe you voice your opposite opinion too directly AT the person instead of the topic, and it can end up being offensive even if you weren't thinking you were being so.

[nectarsis]

Sorry I don't follow your way of doing things.  Like I said, I stand behind what I say.  Also HOW I say things is who I am..I'll hardly change that to meet what you feel is right.  *Where's that report button..hit's multiple times*

[Tatsujin]

calm down peeps  

we're all on the same wavelength somehow. we OBEY teh PCE, like teh animes & le japan crazy stuff.

[OldRover]

OBEY TEH SAILOR PANTIEZ!

Well seriously, I'm not sure why people get so bent out of shape over all of this. I mean, I understand that SM carries a bit of a negative connotation because of all the freaks but still...

[Tatsujin]

i followed only the early seasons of SM until that chibi moon came into it back in the days. so all what i can say about it is that it was very repetitive story and became kinda booring with the time. so since i do not know about the later developement of it, i won't judge or damn it.

but what i know for certain, that there were much more fun and intelligent shows out there at the same time.

but sure, SM is kinda phenomenon.

[TR0N]

Tee-hee. 

Still it's worse when going to a anime convention and seeing fatchicks dress up as the,characters from the show 

Sailor Moooo?  But hey (perhaps hay), fat girls need love to.

Ture big girls do need love but they don't fit the mold for sm costumes 

[OldRover]

Fat girls in SM costumes are frightening. Now, fat girls in BDSM costumes...

[NecroPhile]

I went ahead and yanked all my posts in this thread because going at it with you is pointless. 

Don't you realize that you're still arguing?  Internetz really ain't srs bdns, so I suggest that you take a page from Rover's book; he finds 'em sexy and couldn't give a tin shit if that makes him look like a pervert.

saying "man thats gay" is typical phrasing of people in my age bracket. Whether or not its PC is irrelevant.  Deal with it.     

I laugh when people get all worked up over the use of the word 'gay'.  Some peeps just won't understand that words can have multiple meanings and that their definitions are hardly static.

SO who else seems to have a prob with me *waits*

The wait's over beeyotch!  Those damn Canadians are starting to rub off on you, so to speak. 

Fat girls in SM costumes are frightening. Now, fat girls in BDSM costumes...

Mwuhahaha!  I prefer my pussy on the small side:

[nectarsis]

SO who else seems to have a prob with me *waits*

The wait's over beeyotch!  Those damn Canadians are starting to rub off on you, so to speak. 

Canucks...rubbing *shudders* 

[TurboXray]

Wow. What an interesting thread

[Arkhan Asylum]

I laugh when people get all worked up over the use of the word 'gay'.  Some peeps just won't understand that words can have multiple meanings and that their definitions are hardly static.

All I can say to anyone who doesn't understand or can't accept different generations is:

[esteban]

We only have a few regular posters here at the forums, so it makes perfect sense that we splinter into embattled wars with each other!

Please continue fighting with each other, although, personally, I wish you guys were fighting over PCE/TG-16 related stuff.

I mean, seriously, why can you be fighting over the strengths/weaknesses of Lady Sword?

[Arkhan Asylum]

id like to rub my man sword on lady sword.

[geise]

I like reading silly topics that make people argue over the most inane things. 

[Sinistron]

I mean, seriously, why can you be fighting over the strengths/weaknesses of Lady Sword?

What weaknesses?

[NecroPhile]

What weaknesses?

Chicken scratches.  Lots and lots of chicken scratches.