FS: The Dynastic Hero (COMPLETE MINT CONDITION) for Turbo Duo *USA Release*

[ShinobiMan]

Hey guys. First time poster here. I've never sold anything from my collection before, and rather than go through ebay, I wanted to give honest PC Engine collectors a chance to score this one.

A few months ago, it was brought to my attention that I own one of (if not the) rarest games in the Turbo Grafx CD collection. That game is The Dynastic Hero.

Throughout my childhood I collected games with my Dad, and since he passed away in 2007, I have not parted with anything from the bulk of the collection. But unfortunately, money has been tight recently, and the selling of this game to a fellow collector could really help my situation.

Upon seeing what this title goes for on EBAY, and after receiving private messages from members on Digital Press, I have decided that in order for me to sell, the offer would have to be $500.

The private message I received stated that they bought the game recently for $450. Again, I'm asking for $500.

Thank you for taking an interest. Let me know if you have any questions.

[NecroPhile]

Leave us honest PC Engine collectors alone and sell it where they welcome price gouging clowns with open arms - on eBay.  The last one sold there for $480 (which saved the buyer $20, earned him/her $10 in eBay Bucks, and provided 'em with the various buyer protections baked into eBay transactions), so why on earth should anyone pay you a $60 premium over eBay's already sky-high prices?

[JoshTurboTrollX]

boo,

I sold my copy two years ago for $150, and I felt bad for doing that.  When I got it back in the day, I got it with Bonk 3CD, and Super Air Zonk in one of those "TZD buy two get one free deals".

I offer 500 pesos.

[ShinobiMan]

Guys, I'm basing my price off of this article (http://www.racketboy.com/retro/turbografx-16/2010/07/the-rarest-most-valuable-pc-engine-turbografx-16-games.html) and first hand accounts from people on Digital Press, a community that I've been apart of for over 9 years. Why would I sell for any less when I know there are collectors out there who can and will pay $500 for it.

I'm very attached to my collection, and over the years I've never sold anything from it. This is actually a big step for me to take. I'm not trying to rip anyone off. This is what it sells for legitimately.

On a side note, I too got this game through TZD back in 1994. God I miss those days.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

No worries dude, you should sell it for whatever you can get.....(try eBay!)    ;)

We've just had a run of new members coming to these forums and making their first post one of these "Hey I have an ultra rare game, first $500 gets it!" and it strokes the community the wrong way.

We get it that it's ultra rare, and goes for crazy prices on the bay, but don't expect to make too many friends on these forums posting these kind of threads.  This is a place where long time members are posting "free game raffle" threads literally giving games to each other for free.

I'd like to see these threads go away, by making it a 20 minimum to post things for sale personally.  I'm sick of seeing these one and done posters, where their only post is of a sale of an ultra rare $599.99 game insulting everyone here.  Then they *poof* disappear never to be seen again. 

I hope you're not one of those ShinobiMan, I'd like to get to know REAL new members! 

[jperryss]

I'd say JoshTurboTrollX-16 pretty much nailed it, but don't take it personally.
I agree there should be a minimum post count before posting a FS thread OR a WTB thread.

[SignOfZeta]

As has been said, what in the world would be the point of us buying it here, or you selling it here? If any of us here were STUPID enough to pay $500 for this game, then we'd just buy it from eBay. eBay is where people buy stuff like that for ridiculous prices, so eBay is where you sell it.

This statement, "The private message I received stated that they bought the game recently for $450. Again, I'm asking for $500." just makes me want to puke my fucking guts out.

"Sorry, I won't take %10 less than totally insane price, I want the full totally insane price. I want ten times what it cost new. I want as much money as it has ever gone for on eBay, and I don't want to pay any seller/PayPal fees. I want money!"

Even even if you can't see that you are one seriously greedy mofo, and even if you can't see that some douchebags on Digitial Press are totally out of touch, it doesn't matter because you aren't going to get anything like that kind of money around here. Take it to eBay.

I mean, "FS: The Dynastic Hero (COMPLETE MINT CONDITION) for Turbo Duo *USA Release*" That's an eBay auction name right there already. Just see if you can fit OOP R@RE in there somehow.

I don't know what the solution to this problem is, but the endless flood of wankers who's first post is an attempt to gouge this forum's members for some hilariously overpriced US release is getting really old. I barely even have the energy to flame these guys and tell them to get real jobs.

[MotherGunner]

There is a solution to these kinds of threads.  I am gathering my facts first and will make a formal pitch to Aaron.

[ShinobiMan]

Sorry dudes. I didn't mean to rub you the wrong way. Truth is, I didn't know it was a "totally insane" price. In fact, I already got a private message from someone who is interested, as it's one of two games that completes his collection. So there you go.

I love the Turbo Grafx and it's games, so I'm hoping I can contribute to this community when I can. Sorry my first post had to be a sale, but honestly, I thought I'd reach out to the people who would perhaps want or appreciate this game the most. Not some random game collector who just wants it because it's so rare.

As cheesy as it sounds, I want to give it a good home.

[Sparky]

Sorry dudes. I didn't mean to rub you the wrong way. Truth is, I didn't know it was a "totally insane" price. In fact, I already got a private message from someone who is interested, as it's one of two games that completes his collection. So there you go.

One person inquires about it here and "there ya go" ?? what does that mean?

See when i deal with other fellow collectors that want a game to go to a good home they usually sell it at a fair price, a price that a collector can appreciate and be thankful as they did did not have to go to ebay and over pay for it.

How long has it been up for sale on DP? and now you are over here...
Your waiting an awfully long time for a game that is "worth it" to sell  <<shrugs>>


EDIT: dude you posted back on August 4th looking to sell this on DP, hey look we are a good bunch here and love the TG and PCE but you are coming off looking for top dollar and you are getting judged... to bad man as new members are always welcome but first impressions count...

[nectarsis]

In fact, I already got a private message from someone who is interested, as it's one of two games that completes his collection. So there you go.

Most likely one of the handful of people here that have helped push TG prices to all new ludicrous highs.  Hardly the norm as certain people have the "I NEED IT WILL PAY WHATEVER IT TAKES" attitudes.

[ShinobiMan]

EDIT: dude you posted back on August 4th looking to sell this on DP, hey look we are a good bunch here and love the TG and PCE but you are coming off looking for top dollar and you are getting judged... to bad man as new members are always welcome but first impressions count...

I actually would have posted it on this website the same day, but it took over a month for my membership to be accepted here.

hey look we are a good bunch here and love the TG and PCE but you are coming off looking for top dollar and you are getting judged... to bad man as new members are always welcome but first impressions count...

Look, forget about it. I thought I was offering something great for Turbo collectors, as I was and still am one myself. I'm asking for $500 because I thought that's what it was worth.

If you guys want to play judge jury and executioner based on your first impression of me, I won't stop you. Know this though, I'm a pretty cool guy. Heck I've been a part of the Digital Press community for over 9 years. They like me over there, and many of them said they would buy the game from me if they had the money. Some even said it was a decent price. I'm only going one what I've been told. Sorry if I came off like a money grubbing whore.

So how about $489? 

Also, if you want to read the thread I started on Digital Press, I encourage you to. http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147088

Based on the warm response there, you can understand why I'm a bit perplexed at the reaction here.

[SignOfZeta]

Heck I've been a part of the Digital Press community for over 9 years. They like me over there, and many of them said they would buy the game from me if they had the money.

Yes, this is not surprising. Those guys seem to love the idea that their game collections are (supposedly) worth ass loads of money.

How many people have ever payed anything like $500 for this game? Three? One? Just because one day some shithead on eBay with his first credit card payed way way too much for something doesn't mean that's what its worth in the grand scheme of things. If it was actually worth $500 you would have sold it by now. Why do you still have the game? What's the problem?

People will only pay $500 for this game in a crazy environment like eBay. It doesn't really happen very often outside of that fucked up, unrealistic environment. If you want that kind of cash, then take it there. This is a website for fans of NEC stuff. We do buy and sell here, but its not the focus and we keep the prices reasonable. I'm not going to drop nearly week's pay on some silly thing like Dynastic Hero and I'd be surprised if anyone else here did either. You're well into the realm of arcade PCBs and Neo Geo carts with that kind of lunacy.

[ShinobiMan]

Yes, this is not surprising. Those guys seem to love the idea that their game collections are (supposedly) worth ass loads of money.

How many people have ever payed anything like $500 for this game? Three? One? Just because one day some shithead on eBay with his first credit card payed way way too much for something doesn't mean that's what its worth in the grand scheme of things. If it was actually worth $500 you would have sold it by now. Why do you still have the game? What's the problem?

People will only pay $500 for this game in a crazy environment like eBay. It doesn't really happen very often outside of that fucked up, unrealistic environment. If you want that kind of cash, then take it there. This is a website for fans of NEC stuff. We do buy and sell here, but its not the focus and we keep the prices reasonable. I'm not going to drop nearly week's pay on some silly thing like Dynastic Hero and I'd be surprised if anyone else here did either. You're well into the realm of arcade PCBs and Neo Geo carts with that kind of lunacy.

OK, fair enough response. But hey, you can't blame me for trying. I honestly thought that it was worth $500, and at this point in my life I really need the money. I've fallen on hard times like a lot of people in this country.

I think I'll try ebay. I'm sorry for wasting your time.

[Mathius]

I'll just stick with my copy of Wonder Boy IV on the Genny.

[SignOfZeta]

I've fallen on hard times like a lot of people in this country.

Yes, poor America and its legions of downtrodden who can barely afford the newest iPhone or the $300 a month it takes to fuel their school bus sized SUV.

Since you didn't specify which country, I assume you are American. If you are actually Somali or Haitian, except my apologies.

[ShinobiMan]

Yes, poor America and its legions of downtrodden who can barely afford the newest iPhone or the $300 a month it takes to fuel their school bus sized SUV.

Since you didn't specify which country, I assume you are American. If you are actually Somali or Haitian, except my apologies.

WOW, you really are a mean spirited person. Do people actually like you around here?

Yes I am American, and for your information I can't afford an iphone. I live paycheck to paycheck and rarely can afford any luxuries, yet alone my rent.

Man, it's amazing how even on a PC Engine message board you can find such hate. Really guys, I didn't mean any harm when I started this thread, but some people are determined to label me.

[Obfuscate]

Shinobi, I'm sure you're a nice guy in real life, however this isn't real life it the internets, therefore we just see a price gouger. You'd probably get a pass if you were a regular member not a newb that is only here to further drive prices up on our beloved turbos. There are guys here that have spent years {decades} slowly putting together near complete collections just to see prices triple or more in the last 2 years making it near impossible.

[NecroPhile]

In fact, I already got a private message from someone who is interested, as it's one of two games that completes his collection. So there you go.

And they obviously weren't interested in paying your inflated price, else it'd be sold.  Right?

I thought I'd reach out to the people who would perhaps want or appreciate this game the most. Not some random game collector who just wants it because it's so rare.

I don't think such a person exists, not here anyway.  I can't think of any active, contributing PCEFXers that would willingly pay more than bloated eBay prices, so the only interest you'll find at such a price will be from OMGR@RE!! collectors or someone looking to toss it up on eBay with an $800 BIN.

Really guys, I didn't mean any harm when I started this thread, but some people are determined to label me.

You mentioned a sale for $450 and I showed you an eBay auction that would have netted the seller a similar amount, yet you feel the need to tack on an additional 10-15% and insist that you're not padding the bill.  And you wonder why you've been called out for price gouging?!?

[jperryss]

Props to the OP for actually taking this like a mature individual. I understand the frustration of a lot of members here trying to complete their collections, but you guys do tend to rip people apart (sometimes justifiably).

Just my humble opinion, of course.

/dons flame suit.

[RoyVegas]

I understand the frustration of a lot of members here trying to complete their collections, but you guys do tend to rip people apart (sometimes justifiably).

Quoted for truth.

[NecroPhile]

Who's frustrated and since when is telling someone to go to eBay if they want eBay prices 'ripping people apart'?

[Arkhan Asylum]

Guys, I'm basing my price off of this article (http://www.racketboy.com/retro/turbografx-16/2010/07/the-rarest-most-valuable-pc-engine-turbografx-16-games.html) and first hand accounts from people on Digital Press, a community that I've been apart of for over 9 years.

Fuck Digital Press.

Those sissy pansy blowhards don't know dick about the PCE and cry all the time about everything.

The game isn't worth 500$, anyone who writes an article saying it is should be put down.  That whole price article is a laugh.  ignore it.




also ignore anyone who actually pays the jacked pricing.  There are some turbob collectors who will get what they want no matter what the price is.  They're what we call "dumbasses".


anyway, welcome.  and no worries for your honest mistake.

The game is realistically worth like, 150-200$.

It's not like it's become any rarer since the last time it sold for normal prices.  The only thing thats changed is more greedy peckerpumps showed up to cash in on the fact that the Turbo Grafx in and of itself is more obscure than the other US systems of the time.     


Dont become one of the greedy peckerpumps!

[Mathius]

I would suggest you get in on the game related conversations we are having and let us get to know you better. And after awhile if you still feel the need to sell it give the community a good deal on it. Heck if you only sell it for $150 you are still getting a profit.

[SignOfZeta]

I understand the frustration of a lot of members here trying to complete their collections, but you guys do tend to rip people apart (sometimes justifiably).

Quoted for truth.

And you can go fuck yourself.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I understand the frustration of a lot of members here trying to complete their collections, but you guys do tend to rip people apart (sometimes justifiably).

Quoted for truth.

And you can go fuck yourself.

Quoted for truth.

[RoyVegas]

And both of you prove my point.  Thanks

[Arkhan Asylum]

And both of you prove my point.  Thanks

(sometimes justifiably).

Game. Set. Match.

Arkhan.

[exile]

I hate that veteran members run off potential new members just on the fact that they try to sell their games. We could use new blood on these forums. Its always the same elitist attitude that shoos people away. Are we not collectors? Are we not gamers? if you had 500 to blow wouldn't you jump at the chance to buy that game or any other desirable product? Lets not throw stones NO ONE here is perfect. We all have flaws and needs. Than man could genuinely need 500 bucks for surgery,car repair or rent. Would we be helping him? That game is SUPER rare not common. Hence, some gamers with money (not C.C's in every situation) are willing to drop down that paper to not waste time or energy hunting down a copy.
        I just wish our forum wouldn't be quick to judge someone trying to make a buck. Whats wrong with someone trying to expand their chances of selling a title and earn the most income for any game. Supply and demand people

[nectarsis]

I hate that veteran members run off potential new members just on the fact that they try to sell their games. We could use new blood on these forums. Its always the same elitist attitude that shoos people away. Are we not collectors? Are we not gamers? if you had 500 to blow wouldn't you jump at the chance to buy that game or any other desirable product? Lets not throw stones NO ONE here is perfect. We all have flaws and needs. Than man could genuinely need 500 bucks for surgery,car repair or rent. Would we be helping him? That game is SUPER rare not common. Hence, some gamers with money (not C.C's in every situation) are willing to drop down that paper to not waste time or energy hunting down a copy.
        I just wish our forum wouldn't be quick to judge someone trying to make a buck. Whats wrong with someone trying to expand their chances of selling a title and earn the most income for any game. Supply and demand people

If most of these people would post BEYOND their for sale threads it would be different.

"if you had 500 to blow wouldn't you jump at the chance to buy that game or any other desirable product? "

Not even close.  ANd btw this game is not SUPER RARE.  As stated above it's no more rare than it was 2 years or so ago when it went for half or less than $500. ;)


"I just wish our forum wouldn't be quick to judge someone trying to make a buck. Whats wrong with someone trying to expand their chances of selling a title and earn the most income for any game. Supply and demand people."

As also stated above it's just as much the flawed "logic" people use to justify their prices.  If that's the going rate/cheap then it would be sold fast right?   If you want Ebay $ go to Ebay. Why would anyone here give you the same $ when the seller gets no Ebay fees taken,less buyer protection, etc?

[Arkhan Asylum]

We've been dicked over too many times, and our system seems to be the one everyone tries to cash in on.

We call it like we see it.  The newcomers will either recognize the suggestions as valid and take heed.

or they will cry, QQ, and go to digitpress where all the people who couldn't cope ran away to, and say "PCEFX IS MEAN THEY HURT MY FEELINGS"

and shit.


were not driving anyone away.  We're breaking them in.  I think it's more fair that we show em how we do immediately, instead of 6 months later when they go OMG WTF and crap.

[NecroPhile]

if you had 500 to blow wouldn't you jump at the chance to buy that game or any other desirable product?

Get it through your thick skull: this game is not worth $500.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Yeah I have 500$ to blow.  I bought something worth 500$ instead of a game going for 350$ too many

[SignOfZeta]

I hate that veteran members run off potential new members just on the fact that they try to sell their games.

You make it sound like a bad thing. I legitimately would like to see more new people around here, but if all they want to do is rip us off...we don't need those people. If this was a post about how to clear the 3rd stage of Blazing Lazers or repair a laser we wouldn't be in this situation. We need new blood, we don't need another dumping thread.

We could use new blood on these forums. Its always the same elitist attitude that shoos people away. Are we not collectors? Are we not gamers? if you had 500 to blow wouldn't you jump at the chance to buy that game or any other desirable product?

I have $500 to spend...but I'm not going to buy something that's worth less than $200 with it. That's why I have $500. I don't just write blank checks for everything that catches my eye. Only morons do that.

Lets not throw stones NO ONE here is perfect. We all have flaws and needs.

Oh fuck, not this again. You forgot to mention our high horses, our holier than though attitudes, and all those other cliches people who can't articulate their thoughts very well use when they are criticized. We don' think he's a jerk because we think we're perfect. We think he's a jerk because he's trying to rip us off, and he won't just go away now that its obvious he isn't going to get is insane sum. The guy INSISTS that his game be purchased only for a record high price, nothing less, just because he is broke. Because HE needs money, the entire economy of TG-16 is supposed to change to match his needs. How is this less elitist?

Than man could genuinely need 500 bucks for surgery,car repair or rent. Would we be helping him?

He never presented it as a charity case. He simply said "This is what its worth, I know for a fact, I won't take even %10 less." and the numbers he's talking about are, when adjusted for eBay fees, possibly higher than anyone has ever paid for this game.

I just wish our forum wouldn't be quick to judge someone trying to make a buck. Whats wrong with someone trying to expand their chances of selling a title and earn the most income for any game. Supply and demand people

If you are actually asking us what is wrong with unchecked greed, and why anyone would oppose it, I will refer to the one million or so books that have been written on the subject. As for supply and demand...note that this game is still in his possession after a month of it being for sale. This is because he set a price that is way to high. To really see supply and demand at work, just stick the game on eBay with a $0.01 starting bid, no reserve, and $6 shipping. Pure supply and demand at work. I doubt it would break $400, even on eBay, let alone $500.

[exile]

Hey Zeta

I totally believe you are within reason for getting annoyed at someone "pimping their wares" and bailing without posting. This particular individual did post a few (albeit minimal) comments in the discussion thread. He didn't strike me as a "One and done poster" He didn't post harshly to the replies he received. He seemed like he could have been a great addition to our ranks IMO. He may not have divulged why he needed the money, but he insisted that was his price to part with it. I don't think he needed a reason.
      I think it is incredibly subjective what a collector is willing to pay for something he wants. While we both have the means to purchase items of high value, I'm not so critical paying more for a particular collectible if it means I will attain it with no hassle. Certainly don't think that makes me a moron, simply saves me time hunting down a copy or negotiating  an unreasonable trade. I know it irks some, but to each his own.
       Some games are priced too ludicrously though. Magical Chase complete most certainly IS NOT worth $1500.00.  What I'm trying to say, I wouldn't insult someone if they offered to sell me one for that price, I would simply decline.
   Perhaps I used "Elitist" poorly. I have been on this site for less than a year and have seen numerous debates on how much should a game be sold or some angered because a price was too high. Why comment? if the seller gets no replies, doesn't that send the perfect message?
    I agree that he should sell on Ebay to get the most for his investment. I just hate reading posts that have a condescending attitude. Give people a chance to show their true colors that's all.
   

[MotherGunner]

Exile, you're wrong, his number 1 post was the sale.   Please check your facts.

[exile]

thanks gunner I'll retract the comment about his minimal posting. but stand by the rest. He still seemed like a good dude despite his lack of business savvy 

[ShinobiMan]

Hey Zeta

I totally believe you are within reason for getting annoyed at someone "pimping their wares" and bailing without posting. This particular individual did post a few (albeit minimal) comments in the discussion thread. He didn't strike me as a "One and done poster" He didn't post harshly to the replies he received. He seemed like he could have been a great addition to our ranks IMO. He may not have divulged why he needed the money, but he insisted that was his price to part with it. I don't think he needed a reason.
      I think it is incredibly subjective what a collector is willing to pay for something he wants. While we both have the means to purchase items of high value, I'm not so critical paying more for a particular collectible if it means I will attain it with no hassle. Certainly don't think that makes me a moron, simply saves me time hunting down a copy or negotiating  an unreasonable trade. I know it irks some, but to each his own.
       Some games are priced too ludicrously though. Magical Chase complete most certainly IS NOT worth $1500.00.  What I'm trying to say, I wouldn't insult someone if they offered to sell me one for that price, I would simply decline.
   Perhaps I used "Elitist" poorly. I have been on this site for less than a year and have seen numerous debates on how much should a game be sold or some angered because a price was too high. Why comment? if the seller gets no replies, doesn't that send the perfect message?
    I agree that he should sell on Ebay to get the most for his investment. I just hate reading posts that have a condescending attitude. Give people a chance to show their true colors that's all.

Hey thanks for backing me up exile, and anyone else who did also.

Listen, I don't want to cause anymore fuss. Zeta, you've obviously got it out for me, but I'll stick around. I'd like to be apart of some Turbo Grafx discussion (hence my Tricky Kick post in the other forum).

FYI, a prominent member of these boards private messaged me and basically told me not to bother with the negative vibes, that my Dynastic Hero will easily sell for $400 or $450 on ebay. He wished me luck too. Thanks for that.

[nectarsis]

Yet $400-450 (with fees deducted, etc). is also a far cry from $500 free and clear ;)

P.S> The whole "prominent" member (and other) PM's are kinda weak IMO.  If people can't put their opinion out there, and just whisper in the shadows is just weaksauce. 

[ShinobiMan]

This is true  I suppose I would be pushing my luck with $500. Oh well.

You got to understand, I'm trying not to get ripped off either... and I'm slowly getting educated about this games worth. And when I get conflicting reports, some saying $500 is price gouging, some saying it's a fair price, I have a hard time deciding what I should sell it for.

[geddon_jt]

A lot of people selling expensive goods on here have been subjected to criticism, right or wrong... myself included. I still enjoy this site nevertheless.

I bought my Dynastic Hero for $350 about 7 years ago now. At that time, that was a *crazy* price. I guess some people might want to call me an idiot or a moron, but I have gotten a lot of enjoyment out of it (I played through it the week I bought it and have popped it in many times since) and I could probably sell it and make some money if I really had to. Does that make me stupid?

Anyway, good luck with the sale. The moral of the story is nobody should get too worked up over this (even though $500 may have been a bit on the high side ).

[MotherGunner]

thanks gunner I'll retract the comment about his minimal posting. but stand by the rest. He still seemed like a good dude despite his lack of business savvy 

Agreed! That's why I personally have not said anything disrespectful to him although I am just as frustrated as some of the others and agree that there should be a minimal post count to sell.  I am researching how and will make a formal pitch to Aaron when I gather my facts.  Part of me having a gripe is also backing it up with a possible solution.

SM, glad to hear you are sticking around.   Sorry you had to get the bad brunt but you have to understand the frustration others here have.  These guys are good peoples, they are just tired and I don't blame them.   I do see you are taking it like a man and that is refreshing.  Unlike the last guy who lashed out and never came back. (validating our frustration)  Keep participating in the forums and you'll see that most people will come around.   And for heaven's sake take your sale to Ebay!  =)

[SignOfZeta]

FYI, a prominent member of these boards private messaged me and basically told me not to bother with the negative vibes, that my Dynastic Hero will easily sell for $400 or $450 on ebay. He wished me luck too. Thanks for that.

I have an idea who this was, one of maybe two or three people here who are turned on by the whole notion of being involved in a high dollar scene more than by the games themselves, and chances are he's probably someone who has made money from helping the prices skyrocket, or some day plans. too. In other words, it is not the voice of the sane or the reputable, its the voice of someone much more sleazy than you. Its one thing to try and cash in on some craziness, but its another to have cultivated the craziness to begin with.

And obviously he's a pussy.

[Arkhan Asylum]

FYI, a prominent member of these boards private messaged me and basically told me not to bother with the negative vibes, that my Dynastic Hero will easily sell for $400 or $450 on ebay. He wished me luck too. Thanks for that.

How do you know hes a prominent member if you've barely been here?

also, if he was a prominent member, he'd have just spoken his mind right here.  I have my ideas of who it is, but unless you want to spill the beans, lets just leave it at that.

[TheClash603]

I like this forum because it has more freedom than most any other I have ever posted on, and censorship is at a minimum...

I like to think of Zeta as a Qur'an burner.  I do not agree with his actions, but I agree that he has a right to do what he wants.  Furthermore, although I disagree with a burnt Qur'an, it sure does give something exciting to talk about!

With that said, this game will get $400+ on ebay.  $500 may be a reach, but it isn't out of the question.

[Colossus1574]

Wow....i sure missed alot here!  I'm relatively new here still so i might not understand the situation enough to really comment.  I'm usually the mediator type, so all i can say is i can see where both sides are coming from.

BUT if it was myself and was trying to contribute to the community, I probably would sell it here quite a bit cheaper to really "earn some luv" in the community (say $200-$300).  I'll be honest, i also have a wickedly nice copy of DH and a bunch of other late release DUO games as well, but I know it'll fetch better on Ebay because that's the market that Ebay is. It's for auctioning and selling it to highest bidder. So what most of the gang here is saying, is for your bang for the buck, throw it up on Ebay and you'll probably do better then selling it here 

BUT also, speaking as a bigtime comic book collector, I also would like to see my rare issues being labelled with some nice valuable prices as well! I mean, when WitchBlade #1 was selling at $45 bucks, i was frigging happy cause i snatched that baby up when it was cover price brand new! So it's really hard to say what's outright wrong and outright correct here in the world of collectibles. Just my opinion. 

[SignOfZeta]

I like to think of Zeta as a Qur'an burner.

Gee. That's...awesome. Thanks. Thanks for lumping me in with the most antagonistic fundamentalist willfully ignorant and lethal filth in America. Do you have any other completely unmerited insult you want to lay on me? How about saying I'm basically a child rapist, but you defend my right to rape children because, you know, its a free country.

[Arkhan Asylum]

The bottom line here is there is the eBay market (Overpriced, messed up by gougers and big spending dipshits).......

and then theres the real PCE market (us)

[SignOfZeta]

I'm not sure if its that clear. I buy games on eBay all the time for great prices. Granted, I never buy US games, only PC Engine...

[NecroPhile]

If one is patient, good deals can be had for both TG-16 and PCE on eBay.