Job You Wouldn't Do For $1 Million Dollars A Year?

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TheClash603

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No way would I do this.  If I had to choose for someone beat me to death or to climb this tower, I would take the beating.

What job wouldn't you do for a million dollars?  Would anyone actually do this?

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Sparky

i would NOT do Day Care for a million bucks... holy crap looking after a bunch of screaming braty kids... no thanks =;
my wife did home daycare for 2 years... and with shiity pay to boot... no idea how she did it.

Opethian

I would never be employeed at Gamestop for any amount of money. ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA!
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SignOfZeta

I imagine there are a nearly infinite number of jobs I wouldn't do for a million a year, or any price, but the one that springs to mind is anything involving the armed forces. I mean, if Obama says you have to invade Belgium tomorrow, you have to go do it. What's worse, while the tax payers are shelling out a million a year for you to do your job, you only get like...$27k a year or something. Fuck that shit. At least in a privateer baby killing gig like Blackwater you can quit any time and the pay is exponentially higher.
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TheClash603

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/18/2010, 11:39 AMI imagine there are a nearly infinite number of jobs I wouldn't do for a million a year, or any price, but the one that springs to mind is anything involving the armed forces. I mean, if Obama says you have to invade Belgium tomorrow, you have to go do it. What's worse, while the tax payers are shelling out a million a year for you to do your job, you only get like...$27k a year or something. Fuck that shit. At least in a privateer baby killing gig like Blackwater you can quit any time and the pay is exponentially higher.
I would rather be a hit man than a military man.

Come to think of it, after watching Gross Point Blank a few times recently...  that seems like a cool business!

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Quote from: Duo_R on 09/19/2010, 03:09 AMa Walmart greeter.....although driving up to work each day in my Lamborghini might be hilarious
for 1 million moneys, if it didn't threaten my life, I'd prolly do anything.


except being a hooker, or a fucking justin beiber boyband fag.
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and I wouldn't be that kid that shovels up the elephant shit at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom
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Quote from: Duo_R on 09/19/2010, 03:17 AMand I wouldn't be that kid that shovels up the elephant shit at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom
id do that for 1 million monies man.

imagine how awesome itd be to light that on fire on someones porch. 

way better than dog poo
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Joe Redifer

How about this:

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Mike didn't stay in school.  Now Mike jerks off bulls for a living.

Not sure why the cows can't figure out how to do it on their own, but whatev.

NecroPhile

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/19/2010, 03:12 AMfor 1 million moneys, if it didn't threaten my life, I'd prolly do anything.
Same here.  No matter how much the job sucks, I'd only have to put up with it for a few years and retire a millionaire.
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Quote from: NecroPhile on 09/20/2010, 10:15 AM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/19/2010, 03:12 AMfor 1 million moneys, if it didn't threaten my life, I'd prolly do anything.
Same here.  No matter how much the job sucks, I'd only have to put up with it for a few years and retire a millionaire.
now the question is, does jackin off Harry Buffalo up there threaten your life while doing it, lol.

Would kind of suck to go out like that.

"Howd Arkhan die!?"

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SignOfZeta

I don't know. "I'd do anything for money" is pretty much the worst thing you can say for yourself.
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Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/20/2010, 01:27 PMI don't know. "I'd do anything for money" is pretty much the worst thing you can say for yourself.
anything for money, and anything for 1,000,000 money are two different things.

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JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/20/2010, 01:27 PMI don't know. "I'd do anything for money" is pretty much the worst thing you can say for yourself.
I would do anything for $$$, if it meant my kids had college paid off and lots of $$$ to live comfortably for the rest of their lives, then yeah I'd do it.
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NecroPhile

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/20/2010, 04:16 PManything for money, and anything for 1,000,000 money are two different things.
True.  Plus, I'm talking about real jobs and not just any stupid, degrading, and/or disgusting activity.
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JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: guest on 09/20/2010, 04:42 PMTrue.  Plus, I'm talking about real jobs and not just any stupid, degrading, and/or disgusting activity.
are you saying that jerking off bulls isn't a real job?
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TheClash603

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/20/2010, 06:18 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/20/2010, 04:42 PMTrue.  Plus, I'm talking about real jobs and not just any stupid, degrading, and/or disgusting activity.
are you saying that jerking off bulls isn't a real job?
It is a real job, one that I would gladly do for $1MM.

I agree that there are not many jobs I wouldn't do for that kind of cash, original tower climbing being one of the few.

Ceti Alpha

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/18/2010, 11:39 AMI imagine there are a nearly infinite number of jobs I wouldn't do for a million a year, or any price, but the one that springs to mind is anything involving the armed forces. I mean, if Obama says you have to invade Belgium tomorrow, you have to go do it. What's worse, while the tax payers are shelling out a million a year for you to do your job, you only get like...$27k a year or something. Fuck that shit. At least in a privateer baby killing gig like Blackwater you can quit any time and the pay is exponentially higher.
I totally understand what you're saying about having less control over your life, but are people really payed $27K (give or take) in the forces in the American Empire? Sheesh. That's pretty rough. In Canada you're at least taken care of in terms of pay and pension, not to mention opportunities to get further education. Also, you don't have to worry about invading too many countries. Maybe Denmark (damn Danes think they can saunter through the Northwest Passage), or Spain (thinking they can stroll into our fishing waters). But overall, Canada doesn't get involved in illegal wars/invasions like Iraq - we helped in the first Gulf War, but that was sanctioned by the UN. I'd actually consider a job with the Canadian Forces if it was the right job.

As for a job I wouldn't do for one million/year I'd have to go with any job in relation to blood diamonds or something like that. That's a sure ticket to hell.
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work in a slaughterhouse, wash dead bodies, brain surgeon, pull the lever of an electric chair/injection, be a hitman etc. the list could be endless with "dirty" jobs I woulnd't do for a million of dollarz.
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I don't know how wars can be illegal.  Can we be arrested for having an illegal war, or at least cited and forced to pay a fine?  Can we go to court and contest that fine?  Who is going to enforce all of this? The UN does not rule the world or make the laws.

henrycsc

LOL,

I worked for 9 years at Kline Towers.  I've been to the top of Sutro, the antennas that were on the World Trade Center, and several 2000' towers.  I designed and inspected the towers.  The guys that built them were the crazy ones....

The craziest thing I ever saw was in Madison, Wisconsin.  We were using a heavy lift helicopter to raise an additional antenna to the top of the tower.  It was in the 20s.. brrrr.  Well, the Rigger had to climb up the antenna (while it was still tethered to the heli) to release the lifting cable....  1500', 20F, heli wind, and the dude had to climb the pegs on the outside of the mast..... CRAZY!

It was a cool job.


Quote from: TheClash603 on 09/18/2010, 12:17 AMhttp://video.yahoo.com/network/101149635?v=8244494&l=5144241

No way would I do this.  If I had to choose for someone beat me to death or to climb this tower, I would take the beating.

What job wouldn't you do for a million dollars?  Would anyone actually do this?
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Quote from: Joe Redifer on 09/20/2010, 10:09 PMI don't know how wars can be illegal.  Can we be arrested for having an illegal war, or at least cited and forced to pay a fine?  Can we go to court and contest that fine?  Who is going to enforce all of this? The UN does not rule the world or make the laws.
Actually, the UN does make international law, but the US tends not to sign onto international laws/agreements because it's not in their interest to do so, while middle powers like Canada, Sweden, Australia do. But even if the US violates international law that they have signed onto the UN can't really do anything to prosecute because what can the international community really do about it? There is no UN Global Military - well there are UN missions, but it's by-in-large the supported by the US. heh. It's the same with Israel. Israel's settlements are in direct violation of the Geneva convention, which states that you can't settle/colonize conquered land; but unless the US stops vetoing UN legislation that is critical of Israel who is going to stop them?

This was Canada's Prime Minister, Jean Chretien's, wonderfully articulated opposition to the invasion of Iraq. lol
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SignOfZeta

http://www.navycs.com/2010-military-pay-chart.html

This is Navy, but things are pretty much the same for all branches. You'll make more managing the Sunglasses Hut in the mall...more meaningful work too.
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Ceti Alpha

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 12:48 AMhttp://www.navycs.com/2010-military-pay-chart.html

This is Navy, but things are pretty much the same for all branches. You'll make more managing the Sunglasses Hut in the mall...more meaningful work too.
hahaha. I was thinking of officers not enlisted. Officers tend to do a lot better paywise. I doubt you'd do much better as a noncomm in Canada. I'll check it out.
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Joe Redifer

Well Ceti, what good are laws if they can't/won't be enforced?  They are more guidelines, really.  I'm not promoting us going to Iraq, I'm just wondering how something can be illegal on that scale.

SignOfZeta

The rules exist to serve as an excuse to tell smaller countries what to do, to keep them small. They justify invasions, not prevent them. By controlling the UN we can tell Iraq what they can and can't do, invade them, sanction and bomb them weekly for over a decade, and then invade them again, amounting to a death toll, directly or indirectly, in the millions, all without any consequence. Meanwhile North Korea shoots a crappy missile out into the sea and its sanction time again.

It was never designed that way, but in reality it works that way. What's hilarious is to hear ultra-concervative Americans talk about how we should leave the UN because it holds us back, neuters our sovereignty. In fact, its one of our most powerful weapons!

The winners write history. The very tactics that won WWII are now banned by the UN and the Geneva convention (ie: massive and sustained carpet bombing of civilian targets). If the axis powers had prevailed the same rules would exist, only it would have been Churchill and Truman who would have been tried for the same warcrimes we eventually charged Nazis with.
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TheClash603

Quote from: henrycsc on 09/20/2010, 11:33 PMLOL,

I worked for 9 years at Kline Towers.  I've been to the top of Sutro, the antennas that were on the World Trade Center, and several 2000' towers.  I designed and inspected the towers.  The guys that built them were the crazy ones....

The craziest thing I ever saw was in Madison, Wisconsin.  We were using a heavy lift helicopter to raise an additional antenna to the top of the tower.  It was in the 20s.. brrrr.  Well, the Rigger had to climb up the antenna (while it was still tethered to the heli) to release the lifting cable....  1500', 20F, heli wind, and the dude had to climb the pegs on the outside of the mast..... CRAZY!

It was a cool job.


Quote from: TheClash603 on 09/18/2010, 12:17 AMhttp://video.yahoo.com/network/101149635?v=8244494&l=5144241

No way would I do this.  If I had to choose for someone beat me to death or to climb this tower, I would take the beating.

What job wouldn't you do for a million dollars?  Would anyone actually do this?
I am not asking for specifics, but do the guys doing those jobs get paid very well?  I sure hope so... 

BTW - You're fucking nuts!

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/20/2010, 06:18 PM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 09/20/2010, 04:42 PMTrue.  Plus, I'm talking about real jobs and not just any stupid, degrading, and/or disgusting activity.
are you saying that jerking off bulls isn't a real job?
no I think hes saying he wont sit in a back alley and suck off dudes for money, etc, etc.

that kind of degrading/disgusting.

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NecroPhile

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/20/2010, 06:18 PMare you saying that jerking off bulls isn't a real job?
Not at all.  Animal husbandry is obviously a real job.



Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 12:48 AMThis is Navy, but things are pretty much the same for all branches. You'll make more managing the Sunglasses Hut in the mall...more meaningful work too.
On the surface the pay looks bad, but you're ignoring the value of free food, housing, clothing, medical care, etc..  Even discounting the fringe benefits, E-1 base pay is still $2000 per year more than a minimum wage earner.

Quote from: ceti alpha on 09/21/2010, 01:20 AMI was thinking of officers not enlisted. Officers tend to do a lot better paywise.
Commissioned officers start at about $33,000 a year.  With ten years of service, there's little reason for 'em not to be an O-4 (about $75,000).
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SignOfZeta

Quote from: guestOn the surface the pay looks bad, but you're ignoring the value of free food, housing, clothing, medical care, etc.. 
So the fact that I can't afford my own housing is justified by the fact that I can't actually live in my own house anyway. Awesome!

QuoteEven discounting the fringe benefits, E-1 base pay is still $2000 per year more than a minimum wage earner.
Is it actually possible to be E-1 at any point beyond basic training?

I don't think that paying a guy $2k more than the legal minimum is very impressive considering he's signed away a good portion of his human rights. We Americans spend more on military shit than we do on anything else, and not enough of it is going to the soldiers themselves. That's my main point. I know guys that have done civilian work in Iraq for $27k a month.
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Arkhan Asylum

They should stop enticing dipshits to join the military via benefits and nonsense.

Maybe we'd have a stronger economy.   The people would either sink, or swim.   None of this cop-out "join the army, gits me a moneys, shoots me some injuns, AND THEN SIT ON MY ASS AFTERWARDS AND BE A TOTAL DOUCHE WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO GIVE ME SOME MONEY"


Yeah they hook you up for wasting your time, but it sucks when you got burnouts/alcoholics joining the army for the perks/money just because they fucked their life up.

seems like bribery.  "Hey you, you're worthless because you're an idiot and failed to succeed.  Come join the army, we will hand you money if you be our meatbag for awhile"
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NecroPhile

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 11:22 AMSo the fact that I can't afford my own housing is justified by the fact that I can't actually live in my own house anyway. Awesome!
So the only thing that matters is the cash in their pockets, eh?  :roll:

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 11:22 AMIs it actually possible to be E-1 at any point beyond basic training?
If you're a total screwup yet not quite bad enough to get discharged, then sure.

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 11:22 AMI don't think that paying a guy $2k more than the legal minimum is very impressive considering he's signed away a good portion of his human rights.
Your argument seemed to be that those joining the military earn less than a minimum wage earner, which I showed to be false for even a lowly E-1.  Furthermore, you're view that soldiers do nothing worthwhile is spitting in their faces, which really isn't surprising coming from you.

I too would like to see the soldiers get better pay (and better equipment, more training, etc.), but it is a voluntary service; if they don't like it, they don't have to sign up.  If they make a career of the military, it does get a bit better; after ten years, they should be making about $38,000 (enlisted) or $75,000 (officer), whereas the average private employee receives $30,000 (high school grad) or $52,000 (four year degree), though the private employees obviously enjoy much more freedom.
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Quote from: NecroPhile on 09/21/2010, 12:47 PMI too would like to see the soldiers get better pay (and better equipment, more training, etc.), but it is a voluntary service; if they don't like it, they don't have to sign up.  If they make a career of the military, it does get a bit better; after ten years, they should be making about $38,000 (enlisted) or $75,000 (officer), whereas the average private employee receives $30,000 (high school grad) or $52,000 (four year degree), though the private employees obviously enjoy much more freedom.
my problem is them roping in deadbeats to enlist and they use money and benefits to lure them in.   This was commonplace in highschool every year, twice a year.   The jackasses that enlisted were pretty much a step away from dropping out, or prison.

So then what happens, at least around here, is they go fuck off for 4 years and get paid, come back and keep getting money from it, and sit on their asses and drink all day.  By the time reality sinks in for them, they're pushing, or past 30 years old and they have no marketable talents other than whatever basic training and crap gave them.

so then some of them use the free money and shit to go to school and spend another 4+ years getting a degree they werent motivated to get in the first place only because they now realize they're getting to be that age where its now or never...

seems kinda broken. Yeah, it's keeping idiots out of prison or sitting around doing absolutely nothing....... but when a bunch of them come back and sit around doing nothing WHILE GETTING MONEY FOR IT, it's kind of retarded
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SignOfZeta

Quote from: guestSo the only thing that matters is the cash in their pockets, eh?  :roll:
No. The only thing that matters is that if there is a God in heaven they will burn in hell for all eternity for what they do on a daily basis, which is why I wouldn't do it for $1 million a year, or any other price.* Considering that, they should at least get paid the same as a garbage man or a meter maid, and most of them don't. If you are going to sell your soul to the military industrial complex, at least get a good deal. That was my point.

QuoteYour argument seemed to be that those joining the military earn less than a minimum wage earner, which I showed to be false for even a lowly E-1.
I never said that. I said that mall management could pay more than $27k, which is does. Managing an EB pays about $40k (or it did, before Gamestop bought them) and an anchor store like a Sears can pay $100,000+. I never mentioned minimum wage, you did. However, since minimum wage is an hourly thing...if you look at things from an hourly perspective, even the guy at 7-11 is making more than a guy stuck in a submarine for three months since he's there 24/7, on duty or not.

QuoteFurthermore, you're view that soldiers do nothing worthwhile is spitting in their faces, which really isn't surprising coming from you.
Yes, please explain to all of us how the world is such a greta place because of all the places the US has invaded. Just think of how much better we all are off thanks to the invasion of Iraq, Panama, Korea, Nicaragua, Mexico, the Philippines, Viet Nam, Cambodia. The list is basically endless. Fuck it. Just explain Cambodia. Explain how that helped anyone who wasn't already hella rich and well connected.

As Americans we've been indoctrinated since birth to love the military and what it does while ignoring the fact that what it does is kill people. Well, it didn't work on me. I have no respect for that. I'm not really even all that concerned that they get better pay, but I would love to see them get real jobs. If we, as a country, spent the same trillion dollars a year building up this country instead of fucking up other's, we'd have a country that was actually as good as people say it is.


* I don't actually believe in a vengeful God, but if if I'm wrong...having read the entire Bible several times...it doesn't look good for the solider. That's all I'm saying.
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Quote from: guest on 09/21/2010, 10:00 AMCommissioned officers start at about $33,000 a year.  With ten years of service, there's little reason for 'em not to be an O-4 (about $75,000).
Hells yeah. If I was to sign up with the Canadian Navy as a commissioned officer I would basically be starting off making over $60 000/year. I'm pretty flabbergasted at the dismal pay the US Forces receive, never mind the individuals who are maimed during their service and receive little to no compensation for their sacrifice.

I do agree with Zeta that the US has caused a ruckus in South America, but that's par for the course for superpowers. The UK/England spent hundreds of years causing mayhem and drawing arbitrary borders around the world and we are still trying to fix what they left behind. Even the Soviet Union managed to turn Eastern Europe into a place of constant ethnic conflict.

Unfortunately, for some reason the Republican party has morphed into something barely recognizable from what it once was and continues to mutate, horribly. Glenn Beck's Tea Party is thankfully so ridiculous that Americans will be unable to ignore the how obviously out of touch the Republican party is. I just don't understand why conservatives, around the world, have been given the "economy savior" status. Whether in Canada, the US, the UK, Greece, conservatives always manage to screw over the economy and put their respective nations in massive debt with absolutely nothing to show for it, except large bonuses for CEOs.

Back to the military industrial complex, I love Eisenhower's farewell address to Americans. The man was a prophetic genius.
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SignOfZeta

Quote from: guestmy problem is them roping in deadbeats to enlist and they use money and benefits to lure them in.   This was commonplace in highschool every year, twice a year.   The jackasses that enlisted were pretty much a step away from dropping out, or prison.
Well, around where I lived the recruiters were pretty horrible. They would actually follow me home from school like some sort of child molester. I can still remember them rolling behind me in their Chevette trying to convince me that I'd be nothing so I might a well join the Army. This was a lost cause since at this same time I was actively protesting the first Iraq invasion.

I would by no means say that everyone who signed up was a loser (many were), or they they even believed that they would be a losers if they didn't sign up (many more were). I've known many good people who have gone into the service, but only one actually made it a career, and most of them basically agree that it didn't do them much good. The recruiters massively overstate the value of military experience, and you will almost certainly not get all that college money! Other than discipline, there really isn't much you can learn there since fixing tanks and shooting heat seeking populace annihilators doesn't have much call in the civilian world.
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NecroPhile

I suppose I was misinformed when I heard that the military was providing aid for flood victims in Pakistan (among the hundreds of other similar operations over the years) or that there are people in the world attacking the US and its allies.  Nope, there are no valid missions for the military; they're just running around, invading peaceable countries, and shooting innocent women and children.
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Quote from: guest on 09/21/2010, 04:18 PMI suppose I was misinformed when I heard that the military was providing aid for flood victims in Pakistan (among the hundreds of other similar operations over the years) or that there are people in the world attacking the US and its allies.  Nope, there are no valid missions for the military; they're just running around, invading peaceable countries, and shooting innocent women and children.
No doubt. Armed Forces are essential for creating stability on the seas against pirates (yarrr) or making sure ethnic conflicts don't turn into regional wars. Sure, there are meatheads in the military that don't even know where "Eyeraq" is and just want to shoot up some "Ehrabs", but there are just as many, if not more, who actually take their job seriously and try and do good.

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 09/21/2010, 02:13 AMWell Ceti, what good are laws if they can't/won't be enforced?  They are more guidelines, really.  I'm not promoting us going to Iraq, I'm just wondering how something can be illegal on that scale.
That's the all too familiar cliché of the UN. Without support from the US these laws are pretty much meaningless, but regardless, unilateral invasions of other countries are illegal. The UN sanctioned Gulf War in the early 90s was in reaction to Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait. International law is enforced, but it's certainly not enforced equally. This is probably a poor analogy since this is an example of a bad law, but take the marijuana laws in the US, and Canada for that matter. There's absolutely no way of enforcing possession laws to everyone because millions of Americans possess it, but it's still illegal.
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Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 04:09 PMI would by no means say that everyone who signed up was a loser (many were), or they they even believed that they would be a losers if they didn't sign up (many more were). I've known many good people who have gone into the service, but only one actually made it a career, and most of them basically agree that it didn't do them much good. The recruiters massively overstate the value of military experience, and you will almost certainly not get all that college money! Other than discipline, there really isn't much you can learn there since fixing tanks and shooting heat seeking populace annihilators doesn't have much call in the civilian world.
Right.  There are plenty of good people who sign up.  I just don't agree with them basically looking for dead weight and convincing them to sign up.  That mostly just enables them to continue being dick-offs once theyre back into civilian land.  They get free money and sit around.   I base this off of the 7 douchebags who all went to the army, did their GI Joe training, and all 7 came back and are livin' the white trash life.  I doubt it's an isolated instance. 

If you look at it the right way, its like they volunteered to go to prison for 4 years and get paid while doing it, only the prison taught em how to shoot shit and punch people properly.  White trash trained to kill!  Brilliant.

The whole thing in general is stupid, and not for me.  I do too many things that I would miss doing if I enlisted, shaved my hair, flew overseas, and had to dick off outside all day.

I prefer to get my college/career going the old fashioned way.  More power to the people who do the armed forces way, and hats off to the ones that don't half ass it.



I really dislike America lately though. I'm getting tired of the WERE THE BEST COUNTRY EVER bullshit we keep spouting.  It is retarded.  We're not the best at like anything anymore, our economy is a clustercunt of lolery, and we have the fattest bastards on the planet living here.  I think we're the best at being lazy, greedy, and ignorant.

Yes not EVERYONE is guilty... but fuck man, peopleofwalmart.com   Done.  There's your proof.  We ain't so great anymore.  the Netherlands, Japan, Canada, Australia... all of those places!  I know many people from these places, and by the sound of it they're just as good, if not better than us. 

You don't really see equivalent sites for other countries.
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Quote from: guest on 09/21/2010, 04:18 PMI suppose I was misinformed when I heard that the military was providing aid for flood victims in Pakistan (among the hundreds of other similar operations over the years) or that there are people in the world attacking the US and its allies.  Nope, there are no valid missions for the military; they're just running around, invading peaceable countries, and shooting innocent women and children.
If I put $1 in the Salvation Army's bell ringer's pot, does it make any difference if I have a basement full of fresh graves? Its that much of a drop in the bucket. Barely even a token.

As for the US being attacked...we are fast approaching the 200th anniversary of the last time enemy foreign troops set foot on American soil. I really don't think invasion is so imminent that its worth spending half our tax base on, and I know its not worth the incalculable loss of human life.
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Quote from: guest on 09/21/2010, 08:21 PMRight.  There are plenty of good people who sign up.  I just don't agree with them basically looking for dead weight and convincing them to sign up.  That mostly just enables them to continue being dick-offs once theyre back into civilian land.  They get free money and sit around.   I base this off of the 7 douchebags who all went to the army, did their GI Joe training, and all 7 came back and are livin' the white trash life.  I doubt it's an isolated instance. 
So are they just living off their Guard checks, or what? If they weren't in it long enough to retire, I don't see how they could be getting more than a few hundred a month. I knew Cleveland was economically depressed, but are trailers really that cheap?

Its been a while since any of my friends were in the Army, so I can't really remember how this goes.
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Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 08:21 PMAs for the US being attacked...we are fast approaching the 200th anniversary of the last time enemy foreign troops set foot on American soil. I really don't think invasion is so imminent that its worth spending half our tax base on, and I know its not worth the incalculable loss of human life.
There was this plane that smashed into a building a few years ago?  I'm not sure if we are counting that.

and pearl harbor might count, depending on how technical you're being.

but I do see what you're saying as far as troops physically occupying part of the US.  It's not like the invasion boats have docked and unloaded troops in awhile.  We act like our freedom is being threatened a whole lot, but I always wonder if it really is.

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Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/21/2010, 08:24 PM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/21/2010, 08:21 PMRight.  There are plenty of good people who sign up.  I just don't agree with them basically looking for dead weight and convincing them to sign up.  That mostly just enables them to continue being dick-offs once theyre back into civilian land.  They get free money and sit around.   I base this off of the 7 douchebags who all went to the army, did their GI Joe training, and all 7 came back and are livin' the white trash life.  I doubt it's an isolated instance. 
So are they just living off their Guard checks, or what? If they weren't in it long enough to retire, I don't see how they could be getting more than a few hundred a month. I knew Cleveland was economically depressed, but are trailers really that cheap?

Its been a while since any of my friends were in the Army, so I can't really remember how this goes.
yeah man, trailers are fuck-all cheap.

They gits them a guardcheck, sign up for some welfares, find a hoe to live with that works at like K-Mart or KFC, and they basically dick off and do nothing of use.

It's even worse when its like, a dumpy house with 5 people living in it, working shit jobs or getting free money. 

They need to be lit on fire.
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Well, I think they'd probably be doing all that shit with or without the military experience.
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yeah but give an alcoholic some real killing training and shit gets ugly fast. :)
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Heh, I'm barely man enough to even use one of those, let alone clean one.

Unrelated. The last time I used a portapottie I saw, floating in the morass, no kidding, a home pregnancy test kit.

When you absolutely have to know NOW.

Related: I would like a Gamma Jet 9...and I don't even clean toilets for a living. The thing is cool. I'm sure I could use it to clean my shed or something.
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I wouldn't do any job that takes up too much of my spare time. What is the point of having money if you can't enjoy what you spend it on? I would actually love to have a part time job and just barely get by. A regular apartment, video games and some beer is all I need.