Price list For current US Titles (NOT UPDATED IN 3 YEARS)

[BlueBMW]

Honestly, a lot of people here sell games.  That's where I've bought most of my Turbo / PCE stuff.  In the last year I've bought probably 120 games from just this site!

[chany60126]

I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea. Resellers are always looking for some sort of starting point to start their price gougery. The US library is small enough where if you stick around long enough, you'll get an idea of rare an item is and how much it is truly worth just by hanging out here in the forums. I think it is safe to say that most of us that have been active here for at least six months can "do the math" inside our heads.

[VestCunt]

Resellers are always looking for some sort of starting point to start their price gougery.

Yep.  Some frontiers are best left unmapped.  Games were cheaper when the internet was a wild and wholly place.  The less we etch prices in stone the more people will find good deals.

The US library is small enough where if you stick around long enough, you'll get an idea of rare an item is and how much it is truly worth just by hanging out here in the forums. I think it is safe to say that most of us that have been active here for at least six months can "do the math" inside our heads.

Absolutely true.

[VestCunt]

Aside from the possibility of finding games at flea markets and thrift/pawn shops, where else can you really go to find them at a resonable price?

*Seriously do a yellow pages search and call all the non-Gamestop game shops in your area or check their web sites.  Repeat every couple years.  I've been surprised.  Prices usually aren't particularly cheap, nor are the games terribly rare, but it's fun to walk into a real store.
*The are still online vendors with reasonable prices.  More for the PC Engine, but common, uncommon, and slightly-rare TG games can still be found outside of ebay.  Creative use of - ~ and quotation marks will get you there.
*Like BlueBMW said, this is your best source.  There are also a couple other retro-friendly forums with some degree of traffic in TG games.
*Ebay sucks, but, approximately once a year, the stars align and any given rare game (other than MC + DH) goes for a reasonable price.  Sometimes an auction somehow goes unnoticed by the assholes, sometimes it's a short-lived BIN, sometimes a stupidly-listed item (not every seller uses the words "turbo grafx"  ).
*Also on ebay, nothing brings down the price of a game like a dirty, old TurboGrafx console - consider buying such lots if they contain the game you seek.
*Craiglist.  Gamegavel.
 

Except for the copy of Insanity I just purchased from Arkhan, I haven't bought a turbo game since Meteor Blast DX because of prices.

It may seem like we've got it rough, but, unless you're looking for shrinkwrap or CIB, there are only about a dozen U.S. games that sell for more than the original retail price.  Paying forty bucks for a used, eighteen-year-old game without the box like Neutopia 2 sucks, but we probably all make more money than when Toys R' Us stocked it for the same amount.  I know that this is obvious and of small consolation:  the prices are inflated and the games should be cheaper.  Still, it's a good reality check to keep in mind.

[SignOfZeta]

*Seriously do a yellow pages search and call all the non-Gamestop game shops in your area or check their web sites.  Repeat every couple years.  I've been surprised.  Prices usually aren't particularly cheap, nor are the games terribly rare, but it's fun to walk into a real store.
*The are still online vendors with reasonable prices.  More for the PC Engine, but common, uncommon, and slightly-rare TG games can still be found outside of ebay.  Creative use of - ~ and quotation marks will get you there.
*Like BlueBMW said, this is your best source.  There are also a couple other retro-friendly forums with some degree of traffic in TG games.
*Ebay sucks, but, approximately once a year, the stars align and any given rare game (other than MC + DH) goes for a reasonable price.  Sometimes an auction somehow goes unnoticed by the assholes, sometimes it's a short-lived BIN, sometimes a stupidly-listed item (not every seller uses the words "turbo grafx"  ).
*Also on ebay, nothing brings down the price of a game like a dirty, old TurboGrafx console - consider buying such lots if they contain the game you seek.
*Craiglist.  Gamegavel.

Its true. Most people in most towns don't even know that the indy shop right down the street even exists. Its really sad, IMO.

Also, it really depends on where you live, but Craigslist is FUCKING AWESOME. There is more cool shit going for next to nothing on CL than I have time in my day to pick the stuff up. I don't actually look for Turbo stuff, but there is a Laseractive with Sega PAC for $300 OBO in my town, I know that much.

[TheClash603]

*Seriously do a yellow pages search and call all the non-Gamestop game shops in your area or check their web sites.  Repeat every couple years.  I've been surprised.  Prices usually aren't particularly cheap, nor are the games terribly rare, but it's fun to walk into a real store.
*The are still online vendors with reasonable prices.  More for the PC Engine, but common, uncommon, and slightly-rare TG games can still be found outside of ebay.  Creative use of - ~ and quotation marks will get you there.
*Like BlueBMW said, this is your best source.  There are also a couple other retro-friendly forums with some degree of traffic in TG games.
*Ebay sucks, but, approximately once a year, the stars align and any given rare game (other than MC + DH) goes for a reasonable price.  Sometimes an auction somehow goes unnoticed by the assholes, sometimes it's a short-lived BIN, sometimes a stupidly-listed item (not every seller uses the words "turbo grafx"  ).
*Also on ebay, nothing brings down the price of a game like a dirty, old TurboGrafx console - consider buying such lots if they contain the game you seek.
*Craiglist.  Gamegavel.

Its true. Most people in most towns don't even know that the indy shop right down the street even exists. Its really sad, IMO.

Also, it really depends on where you live, but Craigslist is FUCKING AWESOME. There is more cool shit going for next to nothing on CL than I have time in my day to pick the stuff up. I don't actually look for Turbo stuff, but there is a Laseractive with Sega PAC for $300 OBO in my town, I know that much.

Buffalo, NY Craigslist is complete trash.  Picked up maybe 3 items in the last 4 years from the site, and I check the listings daily.

[VestCunt]

Its true. Most people in most towns don't even know that the indy shop right down the street even exists. Its really sad, IMO.

Even if the local retro store doesn't usually have a big selection, it's easy to befriend the owners and get them on the lookout for you, as they don't usually know any other turbografx fans.

[blueraven]

I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.

Agreed. I always hope that this thread will finally die.

[MasonSushi]

I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.

Agreed. I always hope that this thread will finally die.

I Disagree.

How are new members that are just getting into collecting the system supposed to know thier values?? Check Ebay?? That place is so overprices its ridiculous. Also, I keep hearing from respected members that the prices on the forum are a lot cheaper and more reasonable. Without a guide for people, where is a new person supposed to start? I feel like every time I am interested I have to go on a quest to try to find the value of a game. I feel like I just bother people buy asking so many times.

I say update that price guide.

[CrackTiger]

I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.

Agreed. I always hope that this thread will finally die.

I Disagree.

How are new members that are just getting into collecting the system supposed to know thier values?? Check Ebay?? That place is so overprices its ridiculous. Also, I keep hearing from respected members that the prices on the forum are a lot cheaper and more reasonable. Without a guide for people, where is a new person supposed to start? I feel like every time I am interested I have to go on a quest to try to find the value of a game. I feel like I just bother people buy asking so many times.

I say update that price guide.

So you want other people to do the work regularly so you won't have to? ;) It doesn't make a difference, because as people have been telling you, there is no such thing as an accurate guide. Feel free to inquire about titles you are interested in. If anyone is bothered by it, that's their problem and they're free to not respond.

The only kind of accurate pricing invloves a lot of range and various conditions that need to be described.

[VestCunt]

MasonSushi - I think everyone here is all about helping you and other newcomers find the games you want at reasonable prices.  It's not about whether or not we help people, it's about not wanting to aid price gougers.  I'd write down my estimates if I thought it would help you.  But, based on my experiences and what I've seen on these forums over the last six years, I am convinced that it's a bad idea and would ultimately drive prices up.

It's also impossible to get a consensus on such a list.  I still disagree with half of Windancer's prices so it's probably about as accurate now as it was then.  At any rate, it's not a bad stating point.  Thinking of the cheapest you've ever seen a particular game go for on ebay also isn't a bad starting point...or looking at the BIN crap that's been sitting around for 6 months and cutting the price in half.

Here are a few guidelines.  Don't worry about asking your "price check" questions.

• The orange label games are cheap.
• The colored label turbochips are cheap.  Some of the more popular games like Super Star Soldier are a little more.
• The turbochips without jewel cases are generally more expensive, ranging from Falcon (cheap) to Soldier Blade ($40+?).  The exceptions are Bonk III ($$) and Magical Chase ($$$).
• The CD-Rom2 games are fairly cheap.  Ys 1-2 and Ys III are a little higher.
• Half of the Super CD games are fairly cheap.  Camp California, Dragon Slayer, and Exile 2 cost a bit more.  Beyond Shadowgate, Cotton, Dungeon Explorer 2,Godzilla, MMIII, and Terraforming make up the next tier.  Then Bonk III SCD and Super Air Zonk.  Then Dynastic Hero.

Hope this helps.

[blueraven]

I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.

Agreed. I always hope that this thread will finally die.

I Disagree.

How are new members that are just getting into collecting the system supposed to know thier values?? Check Ebay?? That place is so overprices its ridiculous. Also, I keep hearing from respected members that the prices on the forum are a lot cheaper and more reasonable. Without a guide for people, where is a new person supposed to start? I feel like every time I am interested I have to go on a quest to try to find the value of a game. I feel like I just bother people buy asking so many times.

I say update that price guide.

So you want other people to do the work regularly so you won't have to? ;) It doesn't make a difference, because as people have been telling you, there is no such thing as an accurate guide. Feel free to inquire about titles you are interested in. If anyone is bothered by it, that's their problem and they're free to not respond.

The only kind of accurate pricing invloves a lot of range and various conditions that need to be described.

I agree, BlackTiger.

[DragonmasterDan]

I think we should update the price guide, At least with a range of value based on what actual ebay auctions, not buy it nows go for. And sales and trades on forums.

Added in edit: Here's a guide for HuCards. Let me know if you have any suggestions for changes.

US HuCards:
This price guide is for US HuCards and manual and CD style cases (if they were packaged with such). This does not include the outer box or plastic insert for HuCards that did not include the outer box. Prices are listed as "Low – High" ranges
Aero Blaster-10 - 15
Air Zonk- 30 - 50
Alien Crush-10 - 15
Andre Panza  7 - 10
Ballistic – 10 - 15
Battle Royal  8 - 12
Blazing Lazers- 12 - 17
Bloody Wolf- 8 - 12
Bomberman- 15 - 22
Bomberman 93- 25 - 40
Bonks Adventure- 10 -18
Bonks Revenge-12 - 20
Bonk 3: Bonks Big adventure-90 - 120
BoxyBoy- 9 - 13
Bravoman-15 -20
Cadash- 25 - 45
Champions Forever- 8 - 12
Chase HQ- 25 – 40
Chu man fu- 20 - 30
China Warrior-3 - 6
CraterMaze- 15 - 22
Cybercore- 10 - 15
Darkwing Duck- 20 - 30
Davis Cup Tennis- 5 - 8
Dead Moon- 15 - 25
Deep Blue-15 - 25
Devils crush-20 - 30
Double Dungeons- 10 - 15
Dragon Spirit- 12 - 17
Dragons Curse-17 - 24
Drop off- 8 – 12
Dungeon explorer-12 - 17
Falcon- 8 - 13
Fantasy zone-10 - 15
Final lap twin- 7 - 12
Galaga 90-15 - 20
Ghost Manor-20 - 30
Gunboat-15 - 25
Hit the ice-6 - 10
Impossamole-15 - 22
Jack Nicklaus golf-3 - 6
Jackie Chans action kung fu-30 -50
JJ and Jeff-5 - 10
Keith Courage in alpha zones-1 - 3
King of Casino-8 - 12
Klax- 8 - 12
Legend of Hero Tonma-30 - 50
Legendary Axe-10 - 15
Legendary Axe II-10 - 15
Magical Chase-400 - 650
Military Madness-20 - 30
Moto Roader-10 - 15
Neutopia-17 - 25
Neutopia II-35- 55
New Adventure Island-30 -50
Night Creatures-20 - 30
Ninja Spirit-12 - 17
Order of the Griffon-27 - 42
Ordyne-10 - 15
Pac-Land-7 - 12
Parasol Stars-30 - 50
Power Golf-3 - 5
Psychosis-20 - 30
Rtype-15 - 22
Raiden-25 - 40
Samurai Ghost-20 - 30
Shockman-25 - 40
Side Arms-8 - 12
Silent Debuggers-10 - 15
Sinistron- 17 - 24
Soldier Blade-35 -55
Somer Assault-30 - 50
Sonic Spike-4 - 7
Space Harrier- 10 - 15
Super Star Soldier-25 - 40
Splatterhouse-20 - 30
Super Volleyball-8 - 12
Taken It To Hoop-5 - 8
Talespin-17 - 22
Tiger Road-15 - 20
Time Cruise-30 - 40
Timeball-8 - 12
Tricky Kick-4 - 7
Turrican-12 - 17
TV Sports Basketball- 4 -7
TV Sports Football-3 -5
TV Sports Hockey-3 - 5
Veigues Tactical Gladiator-5 - 8
Victory run-7 - 10
Vigilante-7 - 10
World Class Baseball-3 - 5
World Court Tennis-5 - 8
World Sports Competition-12 - 17
Yo Bro-5 - 8

[DragonmasterDan]

Here is the rough guide for CDs.

This assumes Disc in good shape, Manual and case. This does not include the Cardboard outer box if one was available
cdrom
Addams Family -8 - 12
Beyond Shadowgate-100 - 140
Bonk 3 cd-150 - 200
Buster Brothers- 10 - 15
Camp California- 30 - 50
Cosmic Fantasy II- 15 - 20
Cotton- 75 - 10
Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes- 20-35
Dungeon Explorer II- 100 - 150
Dungeon Master-20 - 30
Dynastic Hero-350-500
Exile-15 - 20
Exile wicked phenomenon-70 - 90
Fighting Street-15 - 20
Final Zone II-10 - 15
Forgotten Worlds-25 - 35
Gate of Thunder 3 in 1 35 - 50
Godzilla- 80 - 110
Implode- 5 - 10
It Came from the Desert- 10 - 15
J.B. Harold Murder Club-12 - 17
Jack Nicklaus Turbo Golf- 10 - 15
John Madden Duo CD Football- 8 - 12
Last Alert 15 - 20
Loom-15 - 20
Lords of the Rising Sun-20 - 25
Lords of Thunder- 25 - 35
Magical Dinosaur Tour-10 - 15
Might and Magic III-110 - 150
Monster Lair-10 - 15
Prince of Persia-15 - 20
Riot Zone 15 – 20
Shadow of the Beast-15 - 20
shape shifter-20 - 25
Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective 7 - 12
Sherlock Holmes II-5 - 8
Sim Earth-8 - 12
Splash Lake-12 - 17
Super Air Zonk-160 - 220
Syd Meads Terraforming-90 - 120
Valis II-20 - 25
Valis III-25 - 30
Vasteel-40 - 60
Ys  Book 1 and 2 (with map) 40 – 60
Ys  Book 1 and 2 (no map) 25 – 40
Ys III-40 – 55
CD Peripherals
System card 2.0-15 - 20
Super System card 3.0  90 – 120

[chany60126]

Hey Dan, you did a pretty good job with that list. With that being said, the problem is that that you give the price ranges of what people gouge at on ebay, which is what most of don't want to pay. Finding great deals online is getting harder and harder each day. Alot of the longtimers here know what stuff is 'truly worth' which is why you find much better deals on the forums. As stated before, we don't want resellers having access to this information.

[DragonmasterDan]

Hey Dan, you did a pretty good job with that list. With that being said, the problem is that that you give the price ranges of what people gouge at on ebay, which is what most of don't want to pay. Finding great deals online is getting harder and harder each day. Alot of the longtimers here know what stuff is 'truly worth' which is why you find much better deals on the forums. As stated before, we don't want resellers having access to this information.

Right, but I'm pricing "what you should expect to reasonably pay". based on the criteria of what a lot of long timers here are willing to pay. Certain games like Magical Chase, Dynastic Hero, SAZ, Bonk 3 CD quite frankly can't be priced.

Added in edit: I do see the problem with price gougers. But it occurs for other platforms as well that also have price guides. The big thing to recommend is avoiding buy it nows and looking for auctions and people willing to sell and trade on forums.

[chany60126]

Being a US collector, I just noticed that most of these price ranges approximated the going rates on ebay with the exception of the TTI CD games such as Beyond Shadowgate and the like.

But yeah, I try to stay away from purchasing turbo games on ebay as much as possible. Most of my purchases come from the forums, retro gaming shops in Chicago and Craigslist.

[DragonmasterDan]

Being a US collector, I just noticed that most of these price ranges approximated the going rates on ebay with the exception of the TTI CD games such as Beyond Shadowgate and the like.

My list is by no means perfect, if you would like to revise it put something up that seems more reasonable.

But yeah, I try to stay away from purchasing turbo games on ebay as much as possible. Most of my purchases come from the forums, retro gaming shops in Chicago and Craigslist.

I'm aware. You and I have gone game hunting after all

[DesmondThe3rd]

I just paid $180 for Beyond Shadowgate myself. Did I get ripped off or is that game just increasing in value that quickly?

[DragonmasterDan]

I just paid $180 for Beyond Shadowgate myself. Did I get ripped off or is that game just increasing in value that quickly?

You paid a bit more than most people here might consider a fair price for it.

[chany60126]

I just paid $180 for Beyond Shadowgate myself. Did I get ripped off or is that game just increasing in value that quickly?

You paid a bit more than most people here might consider a fair price for it.

Agreed

[VestCunt]

I just paid $180 for Beyond Shadowgate myself. Did I get ripped off or is that game just increasing in value that quickly?

7 people on the "steaming pile" tread bought/sold it for $100 or less.

[blueraven]

Once again; another distorted price and a testimonial as to why this list is irrelevant.

[Duo_R]

What would be interesting is the ability to enter what you paid and what year you bought for your games in the PCEdai website. Then view graphs to see how that has changed.

[blueraven]

I have no authority over what happens on pcedai other than uploading images;

However, there is a "notes" tab, which in my opinion is more than sufficient.

[nat]

Duo_R's idea is a good one and is as far as I go would ever go towards any sort of "price list," personally.

Also, just for arguments sake here is what I paid for a lot of the "expensive" games vs. what is on DragonmasterDan's list:

Beyond Shadowgate $70 in 2008-2009 (listed $100-$400)
Dynastic Hero $200 in 2008 (listed $350-$500) * My second most expensive game purchased, ever.
Exile WP $50 in 2009 (listed $70-$90)
Syd Mead's Terraforming $45 in 2008 (listed $90-$120)
Magical Chase $165 in 2008-2009 (listed $400-$650) * Third most expensive game purchased, ever.

Anything pre-2008 like DE II, Bonk 3, etc I've left off (even though I still paid less than the "range" for everything) just because that's going back a bit far, all the way to the 90s in some cases.

My only point here is pointing out what a bad idea price guides are.

[VestCunt]

For those looking at Dan's list, it's a pretty accurate reflection of what things have been going for on ebay.  Even there, if you end up paying the high price on the right you've been screwed.  Anyone willing to wait 2-6 months should be able to get the low price on ebay.  Anyway, for those greenhorns looking to run out and blow $3,000 on the all-important U.S. collection, there you go.

The whole idea of a price guide stems from a profit-based, collector mindset.  Somebody dying to play Order of the Griffon isn't going to consult a price guide, they're going to go out and buy it as cheap as they can find it.  Once a price guide is published, a peanut gallery of collectors suddenly appears and starts buying up every game they find priced lower than the quoted amount.  Furthermore, as prices become codified, things become more difficult for the casual seller as well - try selling comics without a CGC rating.

[Duo_R]

Yeah but you would have to browse through notes. A price section can create a database that graphs what people paid over a given period of time. Pcedai 2.0 if you will. :-) 

I have no authority over what happens on pcedai other than uploading images;

However, there is a "notes" tab, which in my opinion is more than sufficient.

[DragonmasterDan]

Duo_R's idea is a good one and is as far as I go would ever go towards any sort of "price list," personally.

Also, just for arguments sake here is what I paid for a lot of the "expensive" games vs. what is on DragonmasterDan's list:

Beyond Shadowgate $70 in 2008-2009 (listed $100-$400)
Dynastic Hero $200 in 2008 (listed $350-$500) * My second most expensive game purchased, ever.
Exile WP $50 in 2009 (listed $70-$90)
Syd Mead's Terraforming $45 in 2008 (listed $90-$120)
Magical Chase $165 in 2008-2009 (listed $400-$650) * Third most expensive game purchased, ever.

Anything pre-2008 like DE II, Bonk 3, etc I've left off (even though I still paid less than the "range" for everything) just because that's going back a bit far, all the way to the 90s in some cases.

My only point here is pointing out what a bad idea price guides are.

I never had 400 in there.

Anyway, if you'd like to revise the guide I'm fine with it but I'm trying to make something that is at least fairly reflective of what someone should expect to pay for games.

[DesmondThe3rd]

Maybe I got ripped off but I also really wanted the game too and the game was local too so I jumped at the chance before it passed by. 1 down, 4 more Duo games to go!

[TheClash603]

Maybe I got ripped off but I also really wanted the game too and the game was local too so I jumped at the chance before it passed by. 1 down, 4 more Duo games to go!

Probably got ripped off about $40, but I guess that's where a premium on time comes in.  You may have had to wait a year or 2 to get the game at $100.  Beyond Shadowgate is a top 5 game on the TG16/PC-Engine, so it is worth reaching for IMO.

[nat]

Duo_R's idea is a good one and is as far as I go would ever go towards any sort of "price list," personally.

Also, just for arguments sake here is what I paid for a lot of the "expensive" games vs. what is on DragonmasterDan's list:

Beyond Shadowgate $70 in 2008-2009 (listed $100-$400)
Dynastic Hero $200 in 2008 (listed $350-$500) * My second most expensive game purchased, ever.
Exile WP $50 in 2009 (listed $70-$90)
Syd Mead's Terraforming $45 in 2008 (listed $90-$120)
Magical Chase $165 in 2008-2009 (listed $400-$650) * Third most expensive game purchased, ever.

Anything pre-2008 like DE II, Bonk 3, etc I've left off (even though I still paid less than the "range" for everything) just because that's going back a bit far, all the way to the 90s in some cases.

My only point here is pointing out what a bad idea price guides are.

I never had 400 in there.

Anyway, if you'd like to revise the guide I'm fine with it but I'm trying to make something that is at least fairly reflective of what someone should expect to pay for games.

You're right, my mistake, I was thinking 140 but typed 400. I knew it had a 4 in it.

Either way, you missed the point. I have no interest or intention in revising the list.

[chany60126]

The whole idea of a price guide stems from a profit-based, collector mindset.  Somebody dying to play Order of the Griffon isn't going to consult a price guide, they're going to go out and buy it as cheap as they can find it.  Once a price guide is published, a peanut gallery of collectors suddenly appears and starts buying up every game they find priced lower than the quoted amount.  Furthermore, as prices become codified, things become more difficult for the casual seller as well - try selling comics without a CGC rating.

Yeah, that pretty much summarizes my feelings about price guides in general. I think having a price guide (both for ebay and 'real worth') that you compile for your own personal reference is a great idea, but I think it'd be best for it to be kept out of the public eye IMHO.

[Sparky]

Guys there is big truth in what your saying about not having a price guide and i hear ya but other places do, like racketboy, digitpress & some others and there terribly miss leading, isn't it in our best interest to have something better, a say at least.

Nothing is going to be perfect but to help stop a new guy from going to ebay and over paying would make me happy. This community establishing some ground rules, base prices and guides for buying thats all <<shrugs>>

Something on the first page of the buy and sell may keep the "oh my god rare" dicks out but also guide the new guy, I see it more for the good.

sorry guys, hope i am not missing the point

PS: VestCunt someone dieing to play a game like Order of the Griffon may also bite at the first copy they see, with no guidance on fair prices.

[DragonmasterDan]

Guys there is big truth in what your saying about not having a price guide and i hear ya but other places do, like racketboy, digitpress & some others and there terribly miss leading, isn't it in our best interest to have something better, a say at least.

Nothing is going to be perfect but to help stop a new guy from going to ebay and over paying would make me happy. This community establishing some ground rules, base prices and guides for buying thats all <<shrugs>>

Something on the first page of the buy and sell may keep the "oh my god rare" dicks out but also guide the new guy, I see it more for the good.

sorry guys, hope i am not missing the point

PS: vestcunt someone dieing to play a game like Order of the Griffon may also bite at the first copy they see, with no guidance on fair prices.

Exactly. there's other price guides out there. And I don't see anything wrong with putting together a better one.

With racketboy and video game price charts resellers already have resources. I don't think we are doing a disservice to the community by providing a guide of our own.

[Sparky]

now dont miss my point DragonmasterDan its more than numbers...  "establishing some ground rules, base prices and guides for buying" it CAN be more a guide or tips with out prices just something to help out the new and old gamers/collectors. Just a list of prices i dont think is a good idea on its own, it needs to be worded properly.

my 2 cents.. maybe i am high on maple syrup

[VestCunt]

Nothing is going to be perfect but to help stop a new guy from going to ebay and over paying would make me happy. This community establishing some ground rules, base prices and guides for buying thats all <<shrugs>>

That's a good point.  Trying to shoot down a list here may be like shutting the barn door after the horses are out.  As much as I hate lists, there may be some good in our community chiming in as a voice of reason in this BS collector market.

[Duo_R]

I see it as a reference point. Put a disclaimer that just for reference and it is all good. But I am really just interested in what people here actually paid because that gives me a better idea on market value. Still think PCE Dai could be used or we could do something else.

[CrackTiger]

Prices, value, rarity, condition, usage, popularity and other important factors are very subjective. The worst thing to happen to mainstream collecting is price guides. People look at mint/complete or new/sealed prices and try to sell dirty/damaged, loose/incomplete items for the full price or more. Condition grading guides are also hugely misleading.

As long as people base the value of anything on what they think others value something for, the "market" will continue to be ruined and out of control because the anti-logic being used only drives prices in one direction.

High asking prices mean nothing. High selling prices aren't an indication of value or average selling price. One or two people may have a special reason to pay extra for something at a particular time. Often that reason can be as simple as gross ignorance. Low selling prices however are the only ones that carry any weight, since it means that the market as a whole couldn't be bothered to pay much for something. Unfortunately, too many people, particularly attempted gougers, ignore all low priced sales and overvalue all overpriced sales.

[CrackTiger]

My phone browser is messed up at the moment, so the only way I can continue my post is to double post.

One of the big factors of the interpretation that is lost in price guides is condition/completeness. There is no such thing as a standard equal state of loose or complete. Physical wear, paint or label wear, scent, cleanliness, fading and more all play a different role based on the most popular use of any particular game at any particular state of completeness. A so-called complete item has all of these variables applying to each if the pieces that add up to it being "complete". Completeness though varies so much between each game and particular parts of any game's completeness can carry a differentl weight of the overall value. Sometimes a poster doesn't mean much toagame's completeness or selling value, sometimes it is tge most important factor.

There is such a huge range between the low and higher end of what a game often sells for, not including the extreme one-off high sale prices that pop-up. And then there is the huge range in condition and factors of what can be considered "loose" or "complete".

Then there is the general use of a particular game in either loose or complete condition. Some ganes are usually bought to actually play. Some are usually bought only as a collectible. Some are usually bought for one use when loose but usually for the other when complete. Some games are common in any given condition or completeness. Some games demand a premium in pristine condition. Prices are constantly in flux, but a game being featured in an article or discuseed in a forum can artificially drive prices up for a short period. This why getting current info on a game is crucial.

One last important factor is knowing who you are getting info from. Many people just shout out ideas without really knowing much about what tgey are talking about. When they preface it with a disclaimer stating as much its fine. But if you dont know how much they really know about sonething, you aren't any closer to getting a proper feel of a game's value. If a value inquiry thread or one-off threads were made here, you should take into account what you know about the poster and what they say their experience with the prices and unique qualities of a game are. Jumping into a forum and asking a bunch of strangers to shout out figures isn't informative at all.

One last thing I forgot to mention is that all of this variance and interpretation applies all the more to so-calked rarity, a term in itself is biased. The availability of any game can never be summed up in a numerical value and so-called guides are completely misleading and can only do harm to the markets of both game players and people who's main interest is the thrill of collecting.

[VestCunt]

Good points by BlackTiger.

Going back to my last post, I still think that price guides are for posers.  NEC enthusiasts who take their time between purchases and are methodical will find fair prices.  If a rookie gets ripped off left and right it's because he's emptying his pocketbook faster than he's expanding his knowledge, engaging the community, and doing research.  The aforementioned activities are the real reward.  A long, arduous journey is better than the destination of having 150 games on a shelf in a world where there aren't enough hours in the day to play them all.

[Duo_R]

Well said

[CrackTiger]

There is an entire community here who would only pay $5 - $100 for Turbo Magical Chase. There are other collector based communities where people are willing to pay $500 - $5000. Even with a disclaimer, I don't think that those numerical values on their own are very useful to anybody.

[blueraven]

There is an entire community here who would only pay $5 - $100 for Turbo Magical Chase.

I think you're assessments in the previous posts are right, and I personally would pay $30 for Magical Chase.

[MasonSushi]

There is an entire community here who would only pay $5 - $100 for Turbo Magical Chase. There are other collector based communities where people are willing to pay $500 - $5000. Even with a disclaimer, I don't think that those numerical values on their own are very useful to anybody.

they are useful me. Now I know if i am at a shop, or deal with a member what a good price is for a game.

[alexsduo]

I would pay $100 for magical chase

[blueraven]

I would pay $100 for magical chase

[CrackTiger]

There is an entire community here who would only pay $5 - $100 for Turbo Magical Chase. There are other collector based communities where people are willing to pay $500 - $5000. Even with a disclaimer, I don't think that those numerical values on their own are very useful to anybody.

they are useful me. Now I know if i am at a shop, or deal with a member what a good price is for a game.

So now you know to stay within the $4 - $4999 range? No one has posted an accurate price list. If you are going to go by what a single person has pegged hundreds of titles at, what makes their judgement better than yours?

Instead of planning on having a vague idea of what every game might be worth in conditions that are not universal, why not get a good feel for the selection of games you actually want to get next? It's not a good thing to pay $100 for Bikini Girls because you stumbled upon it and a chart had a higher number for it.

[VestCunt]

Ebay:

Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes- 40 – 60

Real price:

I have the following Games for sale/trade/trade+cash.
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Dragon Slayer - $30

[DragonmasterDan]

Ebay:

Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes- 40 – 60

Real price:

I have the following Games for sale/trade/trade+cash.
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Dragon Slayer - $30

Isn't that a PCE copy (he specified US next to the game above it but not Dragon Slayer)