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Started by alexsduo, 04/20/2011, 11:13 AM

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alexsduo

Hey Dudes and Dudettes,

I have been looking for MC for a long time.  It will complete me.  I get some emails/responses on craigslist, mostly negative about how I am going to resell it or some other bullshit.  I don't even list $50 or $100 or what the other jokers do.  I am very interested in getting a copy.

So, I propose, in order to keep MC in the "family" we have a waiting list.  I would also like to add my name to the top of the list :).  Or have some other system of order where people wanting the game, and people selling / trading the game can get together.

I personally cannot fathom selling my entire gaming lot, or MC if I had it, but I guess I don't have much going on... Maybe one day, I will lose the desire to collect or I have to sell for money problems, hopefully not. 

But, it would be great, as we can totally bypass fleabay, and make sure people do not gouge the game.  It would be more difficult to track the price, and have outrageous prices for the game sold, if we keep it to ourselves.  I do not know how many get traded or sold on this forum. 

Let me know if anyone else is down!

Thanks!
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tggodfrey

I have been in contact with Hudson Soft to try and get them to recreate the HuCard for 40 copies but I wouldnt hold your breath.  They still do not seem like they want to even if possible.
Games currently in play:
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TG16: Boxyboy

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I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

SignOfZeta

Quote from: tggodfrey on 04/20/2011, 11:27 AMI have been in contact with Hudson Soft to try and get them to recreate the HuCard for 40 copies but I wouldnt hold your breath.  They still do not seem like they want to even if possible.
You are being ridiculous. Don't start rumors like that. Its beneath you...whoever you are.

Quote from: alexsduo on 04/20/2011, 11:13 AMI personally cannot fathom selling my entire gaming lot, or MC if I had it, but I guess I don't have much going on... Maybe one day, I will lose the desire to collect or I have to sell for money problems, hopefully not. 
When viewed from a far this idea actually makes sense, in a fucked up way. Most of those copies of MC you see on eBay have changed hands more times than a rental car. People get the urge, then after actually owning it for a while they realize that its just a game, and only a B+ game at best, so they sell it for the stupid money they can get for it. The same thing happens with Ferraris. You, alexsduo, are pretty much guaranteed to do the same thing. Your extreme want for this game is superficial and shallow and disproportionally intense. If you get one, you won't be keeping it for life. Virtually none of the people buying TG-16 games in this current climate keep the stuff, so setting up a sort of custody system would make sense really, but its never going to happen like that, obviously.
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VestCunt

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/20/2011, 12:52 PMYour extreme want for this game is superficial and shallow and disproportionally intense.
Absolutely.  Desires like this, like any addictive behavior, don't just go away with the next "fix."  If Alexduo ever finds the game he'll be selling it to buy something else tomorrow.

alex - Chill out.  You have seventy posts and most of them have been about your quest for this one game.  Try doing some detective work or check out the other retro forums rather than spamming the same board everyday.  Or heck, you could even try participating in some actual discussions on other topics around here and get to know people.  Maybe someone will be inclined to cut a deal if you become known as something other than the annoying MC kid.  Post a trade list and test the waters once or twice a year, but stop the daily spam.
I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

tggodfrey

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/20/2011, 12:52 PM
Quote from: tggodfrey on 04/20/2011, 11:27 AMI have been in contact with Hudson Soft to try and get them to recreate the HuCard for 40 copies but I wouldnt hold your breath.  They still do not seem like they want to even if possible.
You are being ridiculous. Don't start rumors like that. Its beneath you...whoever you are.

Quote from: alexsduo on 04/20/2011, 11:13 AMI personally cannot fathom selling my entire gaming lot, or MC if I had it, but I guess I don't have much going on... Maybe one day, I will lose the desire to collect or I have to sell for money problems, hopefully not.
When viewed from a far this idea actually makes sense, in a fucked up way. Most of those copies of MC you see on eBay have changed hands more times than a rental car. People get the urge, then after actually owning it for a while they realize that its just a game, and only a B+ game at best, so they sell it for the stupid money they can get for it. The same thing happens with Ferraris. You, alexsduo, are pretty much guaranteed to do the same thing. Your extreme want for this game is superficial and shallow and disproportionally intense. If you get one, you won't be keeping it for life. Virtually none of the people buying TG-16 games in this current climate keep the stuff, so setting up a sort of custody system would make sense really, but its never going to happen like that, obviously.
Not starting rumors.  I tried contacting Hudson Soft with this request and all i got was a reply sayign they would forward the request to the appropriete dept.  NO other replies.  Here is their customer support email:  support@hudsonent.com  Maybe if they have enough interest and the materials, they would make a limited run.  I know its wishful thinking but it doesnt hurt to ask.

Terry
Games currently in play:
PS3: COD Ghosts
TG16: Boxyboy

CrackTiger

Since Magical Chase is so common and always available, I'd rather have a Dynastic Hero waiting list.
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: tggodfrey on 04/20/2011, 01:21 PMNot starting rumors.  I tried contacting Hudson Soft with this request and all i got was a reply sayign they would forward the request to the appropriete dept.  NO other replies.  Here is their customer support email:  support@hudsonent.com  Maybe if they have enough interest and the materials, they would make a limited run.  I know its wishful thinking but it doesnt hurt to ask.

Terry
It's really not at all a possibility, especially since Hudson USA no longer exists.

Even further worth note is the fact that this game never showed up on Virtual Console, this indicates to me that the intellectual property rights to the game might be floating around with other companies.
--DragonmasterDan

tggodfrey

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 04/20/2011, 01:59 PM
Quote from: tggodfrey on 04/20/2011, 01:21 PMNot starting rumors.  I tried contacting Hudson Soft with this request and all i got was a reply sayign they would forward the request to the appropriete dept.  NO other replies.  Here is their customer support email:  support@hudsonent.com  Maybe if they have enough interest and the materials, they would make a limited run.  I know its wishful thinking but it doesnt hurt to ask.

Terry
It's really not at all a possibility, especially since Hudson USA no longer exists.

Even further worth note is the fact that this game never showed up on Virtual Console, this indicates to me that the intellectual property rights to the game might be floating around with other companies.
Well it was worth a shot.  Not like it cost me anything.
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SignOfZeta

Quote from: tggodfrey on 04/20/2011, 01:21 PMNot starting rumors.  I tried contacting Hudson Soft with this request and all i got was a reply sayign they would forward the request to the appropriete dept.  NO other replies.  Here is their customer support email:  support@hudsonent.com  Maybe if they have enough interest and the materials, they would make a limited run.  I know its wishful thinking but it doesnt hurt to ask.

Terry
You got the same request you'd get if you asked them to produce a zeppelin with Bonk's face on it. A polite professional way of saying "get out of my face".

Hudson isn't going to reissue this game. Ever. If they do it won't be on a HuCard, a format they haven't produced in 15 years. And even if they did make it, and made it on a HuCard, it would be a US release and it wouldn't be limited to 40 copies. The only games produced in quantities that limited are arcade releases. You can't make any money building a HuCard factory and then just pumping out 40 $50 games. That's $2000 in revenue towards paying off a million dollar HuCard machine. It makes no damn sense, man. 

Even if they did All that, it still wouldn't do the scene any good because something issued in a quantity of 40 would then instantly become the rarest commercial TG-16 release and would eBay for more than the existing version.
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tggodfrey

I understand.  I was looking at it with the hopes perhaps the Hucard tooling would be sitting in some store room and maybe they would be willing to use it.  I realize the tooling might not be around anymore.  I was only trying to help since it seems eveyone would like a copy.  If a remote chance they were willing to do it then at least I was of some help to all of you.  I didnt think it was such a bad thing to try and help.  No reason to get worked up or accuse me of starting rumors ect.  Like I said it didnt cost me anything to send an email and I am not the type to keep bothering them about it.

Terry
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PS3: COD Ghosts
TG16: Boxyboy

OldMan

Lighten up Zeta. Sure, NEC -probably- isn't gonna re-release it, especially in a limited run of 40 copies. But like the man said:

QuoteIt Never Hurts To Ask!
...and we're damn sure not gonna see it if nobody ever asks for it.

hizaygizirlz

Quote from: alexsduo on 04/20/2011, 11:13 AMHey Dudes and Dudettes,

I have been looking for MC for a long time.  It will complete me.  I get some emails/responses on craigslist, mostly negative about how I am going to resell it or some other bullshit.  I don't even list $50 or $100 or what the other jokers do.  I am very interested in getting a copy.
I agree you are on CL every other day w/ a new post.  Not that I care how much it goes for, but it's this kind of sick obsession that makes the game go for 2K.

If i was a scumbag w/ a MC the first person I would try to take advantage of is the kid w/ the 100 CL posts this year.

If you want it that badly pay the premium, If not sit back and hope you get lucky like most folk are going to do. 

Didn't you see Desmond's video he got it on accident in a Hit the Ice box while shopping on April 1st.  What a blessing!! :mrgreen:
Gypsies did it.

 Got no luv for the krackers only slugs for the krackers!

DragonmasterDan

Quote from: hizaygizirlz on 04/20/2011, 04:57 PMI agree you are on CL every other day w/ a new post.  Not that I care how much it goes for, but it's this kind of sick obsession that makes the game go for 2K.

If i was a scumbag w/ a MC the first person I would try to take advantage of is the kid w/ the 100 CL posts this year.

If you want it that badly pay the premium, If not sit back and hope you get lucky like most folk are going to do. 

Didn't you see Desmond's video he got it on accident in a Hit the Ice box while shopping on April 1st.  What a blessing!! :mrgreen:
I see that same post all the time.
--DragonmasterDan

CrackTiger

Quote from: hizaygizirlz on 04/20/2011, 04:57 PMDidn't you see Desmond's video he got it on accident in a Hit the Ice box while shopping on April 1st.  What a blessing!! :mrgreen:
I bought mine brand new sealed(!) for $5. No joke. I didn't buy it because I thought that it was valuable to other people. I bought it because I'd seen it covered in magazines and genuinely wanted to play it. The first thing I did was walk out of the store, hop into our vehicle, tore it open and started playing it on my Turbo Express.


There is no dilemma for people dying to play the U.S. version on real hardware. Just buy a flashcard for a fraction of the cost of the real thing and if you want, you can have that one game on it. For those who just have to have a complete hard copy, the PCE version is easy to get and not that bad for price at this point.

For the rest of you that aren't interested in the game and are strictly a collector of 'what other self-proclaimed-collectors think they want to obtain', then the situation couldn't be better. Magical Chase is always available and it has a high asking price from most sellers. If it so many creeps weren't jacking up the price, then you wouldn't want it. Rarity has nothing to do with it, otherwise OotG would be going for thousands. If collecting is a true hobby and you are hardcore enough to go after something so valuable to collectors, then nothing should be more thrilling than dropping thousands of dollars on the game.

Unless you plan on flipping it for a major profit.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

alexsduo

Wow, a lot of responses...

I am not trying to be annoying with the posts, so I absolutely apologize about looking for MC a lot.  I am obsessed, and I think that owning this game will make me cool.  And I have fun looking for it, it is like I am an online detective.  I just had a wacky idea, regarding this game... I am sure people I know would vouch that if I say I am not trying to flip a game, I am not. 

vestcunt-  I am a commodity fetish, and a marxist

you are right again, I have been bored and really wanting a copy, I know a few people on here, but you are right, I am a MC whore.  I have been a bad man.

Black Tiger, there was on on craigslist, but it twas pricey.  I loved the TG16 system, and I would have tried to collect all the games... I used to play with my brother, so it is sentimental.  I don't think there is much profit unless someone puts it on ebay, but I am sure it happens a lot, especially on this forum.  But, video games are something I enjoy, especially the retro.  What is OotG?  I can't find it online...

SignOfZeta:  I have bid on this item on an unnammed site, but I just want to buy it off another collector.  Obviously bidding on this game, and using ebay is not the best way to redistribute this game.  It just creates a money value and raises the value each time.  I think trading it to each other for goods, services, or money is a cool idea. 

I would bet you that at the time of my death I have Magical Chase in my possession, or in a game museum, don't know how we will watch over this bet. 

And Isn't most game collecting, "superficial and shallow and disproportionally intense"...

If we really want to rid the world of people flipping that shit on ebay, a custody based system would work.  One person who is totally into this forum, no longer wants/needs the game and they pass it on, and we can make birth certificates for the hu, and know who we got it form, and make family trees.   And obviously people who sell on ebay will be publicly shamed!

hizaygizirlz:  I agree, I got lots of posts.  I am willing to pay for it, I just don't know what the holders want for it on this forum, or else where.  I have seen a couple for around the $500 dollar loose...

What video of Desmond?
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Otaking

Can I be added to the Deep Blue waiting list.  :D
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NecroPhile

Quote from: alexsduo on 04/21/2011, 03:41 AMWhat is OotG?  
Order of the Griffon.  If you truly loved the TG-16 and its games, you would've been able to figure this out.

You, sir, are part of the problem.  Go drop a couple thousand on a complete copy and jerk off all over yourself whilst meditating about the awesomeness of your 1337 collection; if you were able to find a copy for $50, you probably wouldn't even be to get hard anyway.
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Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/20/2011, 12:52 PMVirtually none of the people buying TG-16 games in this current climate keep the stuff
wow... i think it is time for a poll on who believes Zeta's TG16 truth be known comments...  you speak for the few but not us all there SignOfBitter :P


Quote from: hizaygizirlz on 04/20/2011, 04:57 PMDidn't you see Desmond's video he got it on accident in a Hit the Ice box while shopping on April 1st.  What a blessing!! :mrgreen:
Dude... it was joke :) he knew and he paid some good coin for that i bet.... i know the guy and the store and there is no way that would have happened, i wish those things did with games like that.

EDIT: fuck my spelling

SignOfZeta

Quote from: guest on 04/20/2011, 06:51 PMIf it so many creeps weren't jacking up the price, then you wouldn't want it. Rarity has nothing to do with it, otherwise OotG would be going for thousands. If collecting is a true hobby and you are hardcore enough to go after something so valuable to collectors, then nothing should be more thrilling than dropping thousands of dollars on the game.
Exactly. Its only desired because...its desired. Where were all these schmucks when the game came out? Shit, where were they five years ago when you could get it for $100? Maybe you were 12 five years ago and couldn't afford it, that's fair, but if so then how did you even come to hear about it and become so fucking obsessed with it in just five years? Surely to someone that age, with all the thousands of games that have been released in that time, you can't be so in love with just this one, can you?

Its one thing to pay $1000 for a PCE LT, which was produced in small quantities, was made of such bleeding edge tech that it cost well over $1000 when new, but a US MC (it has to be US right? What bullshit.) is a $50 game that is only selling for $1000s of dollars because other losers need something to spend $1000 on and they aren't culturally diverse enough to pick something genuinely valuable.
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VestCunt

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Well, one thing I do have to concede is that alexsduo remains unfailing polite.

Quote from: alexsduo on 04/21/2011, 03:41 AMVestCunt-  I am a commodity fetish, and a marxist
I don't give a toss about marxism, but there is something to be said for the way worthless commodities are fetishized....

Anyway, my point is this: the focus of your compulsive desire can be acquired, but it won't take away your obsession for some new piece of crap.  Yes, retro gaming/collecting is superficial and not the loftiest calling, but I've never seen someone as vocal about an obsession as you in six-plus years on this forum.

QuoteIf we really want to rid the world of people flipping that shit on ebay, a custody based system would work.  One person who is totally into this forum, no longer wants/needs the game and they pass it on, and we can make birth certificates for the hu, and know who we got it form, and make family trees.   And obviously people who sell on ebay will be publicly shamed!
It will be difficult for someone who's no longer active in the community to justify selling a game for hundreds less than they could get on ebay.  If they're selling it, they obviously need money, and if they're not active on the board they're less likely to care about public shaming.  Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of generous, stand-up people on this board, but I don't think this would work.  

Finally, IIRC, you've said both that you'll pay the "going rate" for the U.S. version and that you're interested in a PCE copy; so, unless you're trying to pull a royvegas, there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't have this game already.
I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

Mathius

Quote from: guest on 04/21/2011, 11:19 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/20/2011, 12:52 PMVirtually none of the people buying TG-16 games in this current climate keep the stuff
wow... i think it is time for a poll on who believes Zeta's TG16 truth be known comments...  you speak for the few but not us all there SignOfBitter :P


Quote from: hizaygizirlz on 04/20/2011, 04:57 PMDidn't you see Desmond's video he got it on accident in a Hit the Ice box while shopping on April 1st.  What a blessing!! :mrgreen:
Dude... it was joke :) he knew and he paid some good coin for that i bet.... i know the guy and the store and there is no way that would have happened, i wish those things did with games like that.

EDIT: fuck my spelling
This is what I thought reading Zeta's post. I don't ever want to give up my collection. It stays with me for life. :)

SignOfZeta

Yeah, I'm never selling my collection. But then, I don't own any $1000 games either...
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RoyVegas

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Quote from: guest on 04/21/2011, 12:05 PMunless you're trying to pull a royvegas
I love you too!   :lol:
All is well. :)

hizaygizirlz

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Quote from: hizaygizirlz on 04/20/2011, 04:57 PMDidn't you see Desmond's video he got it on accident in a Hit the Ice box while shopping on April 1st.  What a blessing!! :mrgreen:
QuoteDude... it was joke :) he knew and he paid some good coin for that i bet.... i know the guy and the store and there is no way that would have happened, i wish those things did with games like that.

EDIT: fuck my spelling
I knew it was a joke that's why i made a point to put April 1st and the smiley face.

Here is the video I was referencing, it was an April Fools joke.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9531.0
Gypsies did it.

 Got no luv for the krackers only slugs for the krackers!

Sparky

Quote from: hizaygizirlz on 04/21/2011, 04:47 PM
Quote from: hizaygizirlz on 04/20/2011, 04:57 PMDidn't you see Desmond's video he got it on accident in a Hit the Ice box while shopping on April 1st.  What a blessing!! :mrgreen:
QuoteDude... it was joke :) he knew and he paid some good coin for that i bet.... i know the guy and the store and there is no way that would have happened, i wish those things did with games like that.

EDIT: fuck my spelling
I knew it was a joke that's why i made a point to put April 1st and the smiley face.

Here is the video I was referencing, it was an April Fools joke.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9531.0
oops just making sure... <<blush>>

hizaygizirlz

Quoteoops just making sure... <<blush>>
That's OK sarcasm doesn't really translate well in text.
Gypsies did it.

 Got no luv for the krackers only slugs for the krackers!

exile

Magical chase is an elusive game whether you wanted it years back or today. I find myself wanting an original copy even though I've played it on emulation. Obsession really torques me because I'm smart enough to know NO game is worth more then its original price. Yet,I went to great lengths to score most of my Japanese shooters for the Pc Engine. I hate that I spent 100's if not 1000's on my games over the years and still show no signs of slowing down my game purchases.  Once I get it in my head I want something, the "gotta catch em all" mentality is all that matters. Sometimes the hunt is more exciting than the score. If you are fortunate enough to procure M.C the game it shouldn't matter the price but the satisfaction of finally scoring it for the collection. Sadly once its in my hands, the excitement would quickly leave and its on to the next thing that peaks my interest. Collecting is a motherfuckingbitch lol. Good luck getting your wants gents.

SignOfZeta

Magical Chase wasn't hard to find at all in 1992. Every EB had at least one copy. My local EB had its copies of Cotton (which, on the surface, is so similar to MC that I remember this) recalled to the main warehouse for redistribution but MC stayed until someone eventually bought it. I'm pretty sure its about exactly as rare as Darkwing Duck. I have a feeling most these MC obsessed sheep have never even seen a copy of Darkwing Duck*

By the same token, people who "always wanted" Radiant Silvergun didn't seem to feel like buying it when NCS had them on sale for $40 a copy for half a summer either. 15 years of hearing how awesome it is though and...suddenly everyone was at Woodstock.




* Lucky them, it sucks.
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nectarsis

Quote from: exile on 04/22/2011, 01:04 AMMagical chase is an elusive game whether you wanted it years back or today.

If you are fortunate enough to procure M.C the game it shouldn't matter the price but the satisfaction of finally scoring it for the collection.
MC wasn't that hard to find bitd.  Every store here that carried turbo had it on the shelf.

That last statement is just one of the BIG reasons why this mediocre game has jumped to retarded levels $ wise so quickly/recently.  I still stand behind the fact that if MC was a dirt common game, it would rarely get mentioned (DEF no top tier TG/PCE shooter).
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Zeta

Where did you live in the 90's? I never saw M.C in NYC (I did see bonk 3 and D.W.D) M.C was one of those games that I didn't know existed until TZD when I started buying games.



P.s. Your right D.W.D does suck =P~

exile

No arguments from me Nectarsis, That game isn't all that. I'm not even trying to get every game on the Turbo, but I'm a huge shmup fan, and would like it fot that reason. I doubt I'd ever pay those astronomical Ebay prices to score the copy. Sadly, there are plenty of people who would. :(

SignOfZeta

I lived in Midland Michigan, which was not exactly a mecha for gaming at the time. The reason why you didn't see MC at your local EB is probably because someone bought it. At most stores that never happened and they left the store via UPS back to the main warehouse.
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CrackTiger

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Quote from: exile on 04/22/2011, 01:27 AMZeta

Where did you live in the 90's? I never saw M.C in NYC (I did see bonk 3 and D.W.D) M.C was one of those games that I didn't know existed until TZD when I started buying games.
I guess you didn't read EGM then.

If Magical Chase was sold at a store near the Alaskan Panhandle, then it was available everywhere Turbo games were sold.


What I'd like to know is, all the people who are just dying to get a hold of Turbo Magical Chase, but won't settle for any of the viable alternatives:

-What exactly will you do with it once your dream comes true? I can't imagine that playing it can be at the top of the list, if the PC Engine version is out of the question.
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exile

I must have missed the EGM that covered the game. Truthfully I was so heavy into the Genesis and NES I probably didn't have sense back then to scoop up a duo and its final batch of games. In New York its tough to score moderate to limited release games. Back in the days, we didn't have big box stores. No Toys R Us,Target, Walmarts etc. probably why I never saw certain games on the shelf when they were new. Once Funcoland hit the scene, I was able to find games that I thought never released. Its also interesting how a game like Suikoden 2 for the PS was scarce in the city, but when I traveled South to Virginia I was able to cop a used copy for 14.99 months after its release.

esteban

I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.
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Gogan

The more ppl talk about this stupid game, the higher the perceived value is to sellers, thus driving up the price even more.

If you want it, buy it, if not, stfu.

Fuck magical chase, really sick of hearing bout this.
Nothin beats the real thing.

CGQuarterly

Playing it on a flash card is as close as I'll ever probably get to owning MC.  I'm not going for a complete collection like so many of you are.  I just like to play games, so I am just trying to collect the good ones, both TG16 and PCE.  There are way too many games that are a lot better that cost a lot less than the PCE version of MC.  For games where the price to fun ratio is too high, well that's what I have the flash cart for.

Chris

geddon_jt

I thought I would chime in and just give some comments, unrelated to the "value/rarity" argument and discussion...

for me, there are some things about Magical Chase that make it quite unique in the Turbo library and fun to own. This is just my take for what it's worth, many of you might think these are ridiculous but so be it.

1. This is a late release third party title made by Quest. Quest went on to make the Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre series, which I am quite fond of. Its quite cool to see that by 1993 TTI was allowing the developers to put the actual logo on the front of the box. I'm not sure that any other Quest game in the US for any system has their name right on the front of the box.

2. There are somewhat major changes to the graphics between the US and Japanese versions of Magical Chase. For example, stage 1 has a kind of brick/mossy look to the bottom part of the screen, versus a cartoony tetris-like look in the Japanesve version. I seem to recall other differences, such as the item shop, but it has been a little while since I've played it. Also both versions of the game generally has some very impressive graphics for the console. For example, even the stage 1 miniboss has a very cool spinning animation effect reminiscent of the SNES mode 7. It begs the question why these changes were made to a very late gen release on a dying console. I like to think its because perhaps someone at TTI saw this as an opportunity to really show off the system technologically as one that can stand toe to toe and even exceed many SNES / Genesis titles of the day in the sound and graphics department.

3. The last days of the Turbo suffered from major identity crisis problems. TTI couldn't decide what they wanted. We had tons of pretty crappy Amiga ports, FMV games, weird US developed titles, and then the gold nugget sprite based titles from Japan. The good Japanese game ports were few and far between by 1993 and we all know that these are the games that hold up the best today. MC falls into that category (unlike a game like Darkwing Duck, which some people have compared MC to on the rarity side of things). MC got the royal treatment in this regard.

The fact that not everyone has the means to own the game is absolutely unfortunate. However, the game does have some unique aspects and merit besides the collectability aspect. That's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.

nectarsis

Quote from: geddon_jt on 04/22/2011, 11:09 AMThat's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.
The comparisons to Darkwing, and Order are merely for similar print run totals, nothing more.
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geddon_jt

Quote from: nectarsis on 04/22/2011, 01:08 PM
Quote from: geddon_jt on 04/22/2011, 11:09 AMThat's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.
The comparisons to Darkwing, and Order are merely for similar print run totals, nothing more.
I understand, but I have heard the argument made that it doesn't make sense that those games don't sell for the same money as MC given the similar print runs/release date etc. My point was there are more relevant factors than just the production quantity alone.

CrackTiger

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Quote from: geddon_jt on 04/22/2011, 01:25 PM
Quote from: nectarsis on 04/22/2011, 01:08 PM
Quote from: geddon_jt on 04/22/2011, 11:09 AMThat's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.
The comparisons to Darkwing, and Order are merely for similar print run totals, nothing more.
I understand, but I have heard the argument made that it doesn't make sense that those games don't sell for the same money as MC given the similar print runs/release date etc. My point was there are more relevant factors than just the production quantity alone.
How about the fact that OotG is exclusive to North America, while Magical Chase and Dynastic Hero are plentiful in Japan and always available? Plus Dynastic Hero is available in English on Virtual Console and Magical Chase is just another shooter on on a console with an abundance of them. RPGs tend to demand a higher price, especially rare English language ones for niche platforms (look at common Turbo games like Dragon Slayer, Dungeon Explorer II, Ys I & II, Ys III, Exile WP, etc).



QuoteThere are somewhat major changes to the graphics between the US and Japanese versions of Magical Chase. For example, stage 1 has a kind of brick/mossy look to the bottom part of the screen, versus a cartoony tetris-like look in the Japanesve version. I seem to recall other differences, such as the item shop, but it has been a little while since I've played it. Also both versions of the game generally has some very impressive graphics for the console. For example, even the stage 1 miniboss has a very cool spinning animation effect reminiscent of the SNES mode 7. It begs the question why these changes were made to a very late gen release on a dying console. I like to think its because perhaps someone at TTI saw this as an opportunity to really show off the system technologically as one that can stand toe to toe and even exceed many SNES / Genesis titles of the day in the sound and graphics department.
You must be thinking of the 3rd stage main boss with fake "mode 7". Both it and the first stage mini boss (which doesn't do any kind of mode 7) are the same in both versions.

I really doubt that TTi made any of the graphical updates to the game. I'm guessing that Quest had alternate versions of aspects that didn't make it into the PCE version, so they handed their most finalized version over to TTi. A good sign of this is the hidden music track that isn't used in the game, but it shows up on the tutorial of Magical Chase GB. Now there's a version that should sell for much more than the TG-16 game. :)

Although Magical Chase is a cool game that does several things that Turbo-haters like to say are "impossible" with the hardware, Mode 7-like stuff is in many Turbo and PCE games. That one boss's scaling effect actually couldn't be done like that with Mode 7 either. :P
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BlackandBlue

I am willing to sell my kidney and possibly a lung for this game!  I need my liver though, so don't ask (I'm looking at you Sparky).  :P
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alexsduo

Exile: thanks for an honest post, I like your attitude.  But, I am not talking about someone who is no longer in the community.  They would clearly post on ebay or craigslist to sell.  However, there are certainly people who no longer want the game, beat it, would rather have the money, or a ton of other games or etc.  Or just really love PCFX or other gamers, and would want someone to carry on their copy for a price.  The problem is that the "going rate" on this forum is like $300 tops loose, and maybe double that on ebay. So there is a large discrepancy between what turbo collectors think of value compared to some idiot who heard it was rare and wanted to spend a lot of money...

Mathias: I feel like it for life too, I wouldn't want to part with them...

Vestcunt: I feel you, but I would take a PC engine copy, as I like the PC engine as well. 

I would be interested in both PCE and TG16 releases, as I just like collecting...

Zeta:  I would argue that MC is valuable, ableit it very overpriced.  Even if leet gamers don't think it is worth more than 50, there are total nubes who would pay serious money, hence making it valuable.  Just like a fur coat is valuable, but I wouldn't pay what it was "worth" as I don't care about it.  I have darkwing duck and have played it once, and then tried to snap it in half... I may try it again in several years...

Necromancer:  another post about my penis and my ejaculations? 

It was about 1 am, and I could not figure it out, as I consider it Dungeons and Dragons game, so I was not sure what he meant. 

You accuse me of being part of the problem, but you really don't explain how or why.  I already agreed that I was wrong for posting so much about MC.  You seem to know me well, although you have never met me, nor spoken with me directly. I am proposing an idea that in theory would take ebay out of the mix completely, for rarer stuff, although it probably would not work. 

Even if I was to try to "flip" MC to get paid, how would that work exactly?  My time (as well as everyone else's) is certainly worth money, and considering the amount of posts I put on the net, when I do get the game, it will have cost me well more than the asking price, and then to make a couple hundred online, is certainly not worth it.  And it doesn't come up that often on auction sites, you guys would be able to connect me very quickly with my fleebay name, and I would be disrespected and shunned more so than now....

My brother and I shared a turbo grafx when it came out, we got games every once in a while from babbages.
I truly loved the system, the games, and colors, the black sleekness of the system, and the tiny cards.  We kinda stopped playing it, and I played a couple times in high school.  And then I went away to school, bought a dreamcast, played a bit, and during that time I remembered how much fun the TG was.  And I have gotten back into collecting obviously, hence the interest in completing my collection. 

Necromancer  You are certainly the most elite entity on this forum, your almost 8000 posts are filled with love, respect and visions of masturbation. 

Anyone can be condescending and rude, on the internet, in fact it is very easy. It is a lot harder to be nice and patient.

at least I don't have a picture of my face with mc in the background, sorry RV...:)

I would love to hear more about where the obsession/normalcy of collecting begins and ends.  Is there a difference in buying a diamond ring for your girl, or wanting a Toyota Supra, or insert x here.  Presumably, some of you are married, bought your girl a diamond ring, and African kids arms were cut off or people were killed and etc... Or how about the new condo or house you are looking to buy, and whatever other stupid material possessions.  I am not saying I am above that either... I was trying to get a list of interested parties, in case someone leet gamer wants to sell a copy for $X...

I never saw the Chase in stores, although I probably wasn't looking, and had not heard of it, so I had no reason to look.

this post is way too long and off topic, probably, sorry ladies and gents.
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I seem to be the only one on the Deep Blue waiting list.

I think I'll also add myself to the Keith Courage waiting list too,
C'mon you selfish bastards out there stop hogging all the copies, share the Keithy love.


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NecroPhile

Quote from: alexsduo on 04/27/2011, 03:08 AMYou accuse me of being part of the problem, but you really don't explain how or why.
Let me make it simple for you: like the eBay tools driving up prices, you want Magical Chase solely for your collection and to make yourself 'cool'.

As for this hair brained scheme of yours - the 'real' Turbo fans here have been doing it for years.  Whenever one of the good guys finds a deal on a highly sought after title, they pass it on to one of the other good guys; 1337 collectors such as yourself need not apply.
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RoyVegas

Quote from: alexsduo on 04/27/2011, 03:08 AMat least I don't have a picture of my face with mc in the background, sorry RV...:)
It's only to piss off those who love me around here.  :twisted:
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NecroPhile

Quote from: RoyVegas on 04/27/2011, 12:01 PMIt's only to piss off those who love me around here.  :twisted:
You need to up your game, as your trollsauce is too weak to garner anything more than a meh.
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RoyVegas

Quote from: guest on 04/27/2011, 12:11 PMYou need to up your game, as your trollsauce is too weak to garner anything more than a meh.
A meh will suffice.
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