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games play music tracks on a cd player, but not on PC?

Started by GameFreak, 05/06/2011, 12:12 PM

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GameFreak

I have listened to some of the cd games I have in a dedicated CD player to listen to gaming music (as most of you already know this is a feature) but recently I tried to listen to it in my computer and I get a lot of errors that it does not recognize the disc. I tried opening several music player programs but it still wouldn't play. I was going to try my dvd player (which plays audio cd format) or maybe even my xbox360 but I'm guessing that wont work either.
Does anyone know how to play the game audio tracks on a PC?

JoshTurboTrollX

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GameFreak

I tried it on Windows 7 and also an older version I think it was XP
I tried to play it on Itunes, quicktime, and window-media-player.
I'm sure I just have to tweak the setting somewhere but I don't know how.

OldMan

You have to remember Turbo CD's have the warning track at the beginning, usually followed by a data track. Most computers have a problem playing the audio tracks straight from the disc because of the wierd format of the cd.
If you want to listen to the music, see if you can rip the audio tracks.

SignOfZeta

Yeah, for some reason this is a problem with newer computers and thier CDROM drives.
IMG

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 05/06/2011, 03:43 PMYeah, for some reason this is a problem with newer computers and thier CDROM drives.
WORKS FINE IN MY AMIGA.

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

GameFreak

darn..I'm gonna have to buy one of those cd players they sell at the drug store for $12. My xbox360 is getting used at my friends house. That would be cool if it worked on that since you can download the tracks to the hard drive. Anyone try that yet?

SignOfZeta

If you have a CDROM with play controls on it and built-in DAC and you are actually using the analog line level outputs coming out of it, it should play through your computer that way.

Also:

Will play in almost any game system with a CD drive (Sega CD, Saturn, PS1, PS2, DC, etc).

Will play in any Mac (as far as I know).

Will play in a Windows PC circa Windows 2000 or earlier.

Will play in any stand alone audio CD player I've used.

Also: tracks can be digitally extracted ala Turborip.
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TurboXray

Quote from: GameFreak on 05/07/2011, 12:39 AMdarn..I'm gonna have to buy one of those cd players they sell at the drug store for $12. My xbox360 is getting used at my friends house. That would be cool if it worked on that since you can download the tracks to the hard drive. Anyone try that yet?
It's just your OS getting in the way. There's nothing out of spec with the TG/PCE CD format itself. It's specifically Yellow book standard to the tee. It's just that windows and most OS are expecting strictly an audio CD or an ISO9660 setup (first track is data, all following tracks, if present, are CDDA (red book audio) tracks). A lot of music CDs that come with videos/PC content, are ISO9660 format. In contrast, a lot of TG/PCE games use CDDA,DATA,CDDA, etc layout (not to mention the data track isn't even ISO9660 file system, except those PCE Game Express CD games). The music player programs are going through the OS layer directly to play these discs, so they're no help (they'd need their own direct access to the disc and know what to specifically look for. There's just no need for that). Just rip the CDDA audio tracks to your hard drive. Nero can do this (save tracks), TurboRip can do this, lots of other CDreader/writer apps can do this (M$ PC based apps, good luck on Mac). As for your DVD players, that's anyone's guess. It all depends on what embedded code is going to do (manufacture, revision, designer, etc). If it goes into audio mode, it should play the disc fine and any data tracks should immediately be silenced (only older audio CD players won't look at the track ID to see what mode it's in, and just interpret the sector as CDDA thus hearing the data as audio).

Bernie

Wanna play the tracks in the PC?  Download WinAmp.  When the autostart prompts ya, play the disc in WinAmp.

GameFreak

I look into that WinAmp. Thanks for the tip. :lol:
Tomorrow I get my xbox360 back so I'll try to play music from some TG cd games in my xbox360. My buddy has a ps3 also so I'll check that out and let you all know.

Bernie

hmm..  I will try playing one in my 360.  I never tried that.

Tatsujin

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 05/06/2011, 03:43 PMYeah, for some reason this is a problem with newer computers and thier CDROM drives.
right, the use of a good player will solve that problem :)

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SuperPlay

VLC can also play audio from PCE CDs

http://www.videolan.org/

I also use turbo engine PC Engine emulator to rip the audio (Then Razorlame to compress to mp3)

GameFreak

I didn't test my buddies ps3 because it smells like melted plastic and he says it gets really hot. I wasnt willing to put one of my TG16 discs in there. I did bring one disc and popped it in my XBox360. It shows the first track and played it which was the "warning disc track". That is the only track it showed. I think (as stated earlier) the next track is data and that confuses the system not allowing access to audio tracks past that point. Bummer...I got all excited when the first track showed up.

Thanks for the mp3 download tips guys. I still have to do that. I want to transfer the audio music mp3 files to my xbox360 hard drive and than those Xbox360 games that let you play music in the background, I will be able to play TG16 music within an XBOX360 game.

Someone should try a PS3. Or maybe even an Xbox original, PS2 or a PS1. I'll bet one of those works.

Bernie

Good news.  I just tested a few in my PS2, and they play.  The systems sees it as an audio disc, and sees all the tracks except the data tracks.

GameFreak

Bern-
That's cool about the PS2. I'll bet the PS3 can play them also. Just a wild guess though.