Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

Mathius · 05/11/2011, 12:53 AM

Quote from: alexsduo on 05/11/2011, 12:39 AMSo open auctions cannot gouge?

IMO no. They mostly represent what people truly want to pay for something. Now there are exceptions like the $90+ Air Zonk a while back. But usually an auction's end price is what the market deems reasonable based on the quality of an item, desirability, and actual rareness.

alexsduo · 05/11/2011, 01:21 AM

I mean, I see where you're coming from. I am going to do something I have never done before, quote something from wikipedia. price gouging is where a "seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair." So maybe the seller is not gouging, but the buyers!

Isn't that the problem with DH/MC is when they are on ebay? Most of the peeps on this forum think they are overpriced, especially on that auction site.

I think most people say it is crazy (here) to pay big bucks for those two titles... Just throwing something on ebay without a reserve, (turbo related) is like asking people to spend more money (usually).... I guess they are indirectly "selling" at a bloated price when they put it on ebay....

I would say usually the price reflects what it is worth, but there are certainly several exceptions...

RR1980 · 05/11/2011, 01:33 AM

actually if you want to talk about gouging you should look at his TG16 for sale thread he's listing this item at 600 euros! Also didn't he bought this item off of a forum member to begin with?

chany60126 · 05/11/2011, 09:06 AM

Quote from: RR1980 on 05/11/2011, 01:33 AMactually if you want to talk about gouging you should look at his TG16 for sale thread he's listing this item at 600 euros! Also didn't he bought this item off of a forum member to begin with?

People who try to sell stuff here for a prermium always seem to get ridiculed, but yet this guy always gets a free pass? Yeah, Thibaut bought the demo disk from some guy in Vegas..

alexsduo · 05/11/2011, 10:06 AM

Didn't mean to post a forum member's ebay posting, as I didn't know.

I just feel like if you buy/trade from a forum member you should not be selling said loot on ebay. However, I would say there is a caveat or two. Like if you get a loose part of a system or game, and complete something and then sell, or if you buy/trade a game, and then get the same game in better condition, only to sell the waterlogged, stingy or whatever game in a Keith Courage case...But other than that, you should give someone on this forum the right of first refusal. It is free to ask forum members if they want something... Basically your intent should not be to flip something without reason, only to make some money. I am sure forum members will pay decent money for stuff... The problem is that the hyper inflated market on ebay, is very enticing obviously. I mean someone may be willing to pay $20 for a complete Victory Run on ebay but not here, and so on and so forth.

I have never, ever, ever, ever, sold anything TG on ebay, however I have bought a bunch. I don't like it one bit. However, I have sold several tg/games to people on craigslist, because then (tear), I know it is going to a good home, and I get to shake their hand, and look them in the eye, when they take my babies away....But at least we can reminisce about tg and how much fun it is....

I like gamegavel.com, but I have not sold anything on there, yet.

NecroPhile · 05/11/2011, 10:27 AM

Self-imposed gouging is always possible, but this thing is only at $200; it's more rare than Magical Chase, Dynastic Hero, Might & Magic III, and Bonk 3 CD combined, so it has quite a way to go before it qualifies.

Quote from: chany60126 on 05/11/2011, 09:06 AMPeople who try to sell stuff here for a prermium always seem to get ridiculed, but yet this guy always gets a free pass? Yeah, Thibaut bought the demo disk from some guy in Vegas..

For how much and how long ago? I'm betting he paid closer to €600 than $200 for it.

Quote from: alexsduo on 05/11/2011, 10:06 AMBut other than that, you should give someone on this forum the right of first refusal.

He offered it to the forum back in January.

chany60126 · 05/11/2011, 11:28 AM

I just looked up the thread where I had previously seen the info I was referring to. He actually got the demo disc from someone else, Im guessing sometime in 2008 per the youtube video that the original seller made for it. But who knows how much it sold for back then. (Reply# 27)
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8471.15

RR1980 · 05/11/2011, 11:51 AM

Quote from: chany60126 on 05/11/2011, 09:06 AM
Quote from: RR1980 on 05/11/2011, 01:33 AMactually if you want to talk about gouging you should look at his TG16 for sale thread he's listing this item at 600 euros! Also didn't he bought this item off of a forum member to begin with?
People who try to sell stuff here for a prermium always seem to get ridiculed, but yet this guy always gets a free pass? Yeah, Thibaut bought the demo disk from some guy in Vegas..

I don't think he gets a free pass per say since we are goofing on him now but I think the reason a lot of the members here aren't out right hostile to him like to someone like roy is because Thibaut does have great connections in Japan and he always seems to be able to get his hands on these crazy hard to find super rare shit like mint boxed LT and LT to SCD interface and even though he charges prices that maybe seem high to most of us these items always end up selling at the end because they are so rare to come by. Also he actually is a full time game reseller so it's hard to fault on someone when it's his livelihood; he may charge more but his stuff are usually in top notch condition and he has a fairly extentsive inventory and even alot of sealed games so if if that's what you are into and you don't mind paying a little more he's probably a great guy to buy from and looking at his for sale thread he does have alot of satisfied customers so I think at the end of the day we would still prefer that he sticks around and offer us his wares.

NecroPhile · 05/11/2011, 12:09 PM

Thibaut isn't ridiculed as a price gouger because his prices aren't ridiculously high like most auctions linked here (double the going rate or worse). Plus, he doesn't go ballistic and try to convince us that he's giving us a steal when someone points out that his asking prices are high.

Mathius · 05/11/2011, 12:14 PM

Quote from: RR1980 on 05/11/2011, 11:51 AM
Quote from: chany60126 on 05/11/2011, 09:06 AM
Quote from: RR1980 on 05/11/2011, 01:33 AMactually if you want to talk about gouging you should look at his TG16 for sale thread he's listing this item at 600 euros! Also didn't he bought this item off of a forum member to begin with?
People who try to sell stuff here for a prermium always seem to get ridiculed, but yet this guy always gets a free pass? Yeah, Thibaut bought the demo disk from some guy in Vegas..
I don't think he gets a free pass per say since we are goofing on him now but I think the reason a lot of the members here aren't out right hostile to him like to someone like roy is because Thibaut does have great connections in Japan and he always seems to be able to get his hands on these crazy hard to find super rare shit like mint boxed LT and LT to SCD interface and even though he charges prices that maybe seem high to most of us these items always end up selling at the end because they are so rare to come by. Also he actually is a full time game reseller so it's hard to fault on someone when it's his livelihood; he may charge more but his stuff are usually in top notch condition and he has a fairly extentsive inventory and even alot of sealed games so if if that's what you are into and you don't mind paying a little more he's probably a great guy to buy from and looking at his for sale thread he does have alot of satisfied customers so I think at the end of the day we would still prefer that he sticks around and offer us his wares.

Longest sentence ever!

alexsduo · 05/11/2011, 07:48 PM

that's what she said?

I know Thibaut is a good guy, I didn't realize that was his auction...

BlueBMW · 05/11/2011, 10:46 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 05/11/2011, 12:14 PMLongest sentence ever!

In fairness... he did use a semicolon...

Mathius · 05/12/2011, 12:26 AM

Quote from: BlueBMW on 05/11/2011, 10:46 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 05/11/2011, 12:14 PMLongest sentence ever!
In fairness... he did use a semicolon...

I saw that. And one period that I missed also.

machomadness · 05/12/2011, 03:03 AM

I'm seeing a LOT of gouging on ePay lately. The only Duo's I really see on there are going for $400 and up!

sheath · 05/13/2011, 08:42 AM

Well, that's about what my Duo/R ended up costing me after shipping my first PCE Duo back to HitJapan and then the second to somebody here in the States (both CD-ROMs died the first time I put a Drac X CDR in them).

BlueBMW · 05/13/2011, 08:49 AM

They probably didn't die they just jammed because they couldn't read the CDrs. These systems need to be running perfect to read CDRs and even then you need to use the highest quality CDrs.

sheath · 05/13/2011, 11:07 AM

Yeah, the guy I sent it to and traded for a region switched DUO/R had me walk through some steps to see if it was that simple. The laser was just completely dead, and I literally did just load the disk once. Both DUOs played my full production disks for over a week before I tried the Drac X CDR (worked fine in Magic Engine). I ended up snagging Rondo for about $115 just so I could finally play it. ;)

RoyVegas · 05/14/2011, 02:03 AM

Quote from: guest on 05/11/2011, 10:27 AM
Quote from: chany60126 on 05/11/2011, 09:06 AMPeople who try to sell stuff here for a prermium always seem to get ridiculed, but yet this guy always gets a free pass? Yeah, Thibaut bought the demo disk from some guy in Vegas..
For how much and how long ago? I'm betting he paid closer to €600 than $200 for it.

He bought it from Corey in an eBay auction for $1000 per Corey last time I talked to him.

RR1980 · 05/14/2011, 09:37 AM

Quote from: RoyVegas on 05/14/2011, 02:03 AM
Quote from: guest on 05/11/2011, 10:27 AM
Quote from: chany60126 on 05/11/2011, 09:06 AMPeople who try to sell stuff here for a prermium always seem to get ridiculed, but yet this guy always gets a free pass? Yeah, Thibaut bought the demo disk from some guy in Vegas..
For how much and how long ago? I'm betting he paid closer to 600 than $200 for it.
He bought it from Corey in an eBay auction for $1000 per Corey last time I talked to him.

the auction ended at $809 so he ended up losing money on this item

blueraven · 05/26/2011, 09:37 PM

Ouch. I guess the French economy is hurting too.

VestCunt · 06/01/2011, 08:59 PM

"New" TurboExpress auctioning for $250 and still has a day to go: http://cgi.ebay.com/Nec-Pc-Engine-Gt-new-Turbo-Express-Hand-Held-NEW-/360369717495?pt=Video_Games&hash=item53e7b580f7

Hint - a system is not new if it has a region mod switch.

And then there's AssMaster selling what looks like Sparky's labels (has this been posted before?): http://cgi.ebay.com/AIR-ZONK-TURBO-GRAFX-16-CUSTOM-CASE-ONE-KIND-/190540408956?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d17e87c

Sparky · 06/01/2011, 10:10 PM

ya that Air Zonk Sticker looks awfully familiar

but I know the rest he is selling are not mine and are not that good.

nat · 06/02/2011, 12:19 AM

He obviously ripped the idea off from Sparky.

roflmao · 06/02/2011, 12:29 AM

Quote from: nat on 06/02/2011, 12:19 AMHe obviously ripped the idea off from Sparky.

Thanks to the internet and my nearly-endless-gullibility, I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not...

Mathius · 06/02/2011, 12:49 AM

Quote from: guest on 06/02/2011, 12:29 AM
Quote from: nat on 06/02/2011, 12:19 AMHe obviously ripped the idea off from Sparky.
Thanks to the internet and my nearly-endless-gullibility, I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not...

Nope

GameFreak · 06/02/2011, 03:31 AM

I know the US version sells for more than JPN version. I've seen then go for $40 which I always thought was WAY too high. Since you could just buy a JPN version one for $10 and make an adapter for it.

But this one is up to $100 and still has three days left??? wtf? Sometimes you have to blame the bidders and not the sellers that start at LOW prices...

Also it is untested and comes in a Keith Courage case (loose) LOL!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Grafx-16-CD-SUPER-SYSTEM-CARD-No-Reserve-/270757278682?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3f0a6433da

Keith Courage · 06/02/2011, 12:58 PM

This auction is funny. There aren't even any games included. http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbografx-16-Turbografx-CD-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-/290571758093?pt=Video_Games&hash=item43a76d2a0d#ht_14556wt_1139

Mathius · 06/02/2011, 01:29 PM

Quote from: Keith Courage on 06/02/2011, 12:58 PMThis auction is funny. There aren't even any games included. http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbografx-16-Turbografx-CD-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-/290571758093?pt=Video_Games&hash=item43a76d2a0d#ht_14556wt_1139

What does he mean that because of the setup it's better and easier to not use AV cables and run it through an RF modulator?

DirkFunk · 06/02/2011, 03:10 PM

Quote from: GameFreak on 06/02/2011, 03:31 AMI know the US version sells for more than JPN version. I've seen then go for $40 which I always thought was WAY too high. Since you could just buy a JPN version one for $10 and make an adapter for it.

But this one is up to $100 and still has three days left??? wtf? Sometimes you have to blame the bidders and not the sellers that start at LOW prices...

Also it is untested and comes in a Keith Courage case (loose) LOL!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Grafx-16-CD-SUPER-SYSTEM-CARD-No-Reserve-/270757278682?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3f0a6433da

Yeah, That's my auction.

I woke up this morning and checked eBay. . . I was absolutely shocked. . . I was very close to listing it with a Buy It Now of $40. . . I thought that might be too much to ask since it is loose, and essentially untested.

This is crazy.

GameFreak · 06/02/2011, 10:14 PM

super system card-
I noticed you started auction at a couple dollars or less.
....WOW it's now at $127!

You can almost buy a duo for that price. I guess the economy has improved.

Mathius · 06/02/2011, 10:35 PM

Quote from: GameFreak on 06/02/2011, 10:14 PMsuper system card-
I noticed you started auction at a couple dollars or less.
....WOW it's now at $127! You can almost buy a duo for that price. I guess the economy has improved.

I got mine for about $60 complete a year or two ago.

csgx1 · 06/03/2011, 02:39 AM

Quote from: GameFreak on 06/02/2011, 10:14 PMsuper system card-
I noticed you started auction at a couple dollars or less.
....WOW it's now at $127! You can almost buy a duo for that price. I guess the economy has improved.

Wow, $127 is just crazy for a loose system card. I bought my Duo R for about that price.

DirkFunk · 06/03/2011, 09:34 AM

Quote from: csgx1 on 06/03/2011, 02:39 AM
Quote from: GameFreak on 06/02/2011, 10:14 PMsuper system card-
I noticed you started auction at a couple dollars or less.
....WOW it's now at $127! You can almost buy a duo for that price. I guess the economy has improved.
Wow, $127 is just crazy for a loose system card. I bought my Duo R for about that price.

I picked up a Duo-R recently. . . the way it looks now. . . this is going to pay for it. . . Insane.

blueraven · 06/03/2011, 02:50 PM

WHAT THE FUCK DOES 100% GRADED SILVER EVEN MEAN?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Keith-Courage-Alpha-Zones-Turbografx-16-Collectors-Cond-/320708549280?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4aabb81aa0

Mathius · 06/03/2011, 04:41 PM

Quote from: blueraven on 06/03/2011, 02:50 PMWHAT THE FUCK DOES 100% GRADED SILVER EVEN MEAN?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Keith-Courage-Alpha-Zones-Turbografx-16-Collectors-Cond-/320708549280?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4aabb81aa0

This guy is copying RPGArcana from eBay. And RPGArcana is filth!

PunkCryborg · 06/03/2011, 04:55 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 06/03/2011, 04:41 PM
Quote from: blueraven on 06/03/2011, 02:50 PMWHAT THE FUCK DOES 100% GRADED SILVER EVEN MEAN?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Keith-Courage-Alpha-Zones-Turbografx-16-Collectors-Cond-/320708549280?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4aabb81aa0
This guy is copying RPGArcana from eBay. And RPGArcana is filth!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320687682301&si=0zPZgeKTM6QIpDwD9IvWbpfRkBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_7108wt_905
I can't believe this guy sold this master system for $1200+ that's nuts

GameFreak · 06/03/2011, 08:11 PM

ok this one has gotten out of hand. $152. Let me know if they actually pay for the item, and I might consider selling mine. I have a feeling they wont pay. It just doesn't make sense??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270757278682&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Dyna138 · 06/03/2011, 08:24 PM

Quote from: elabit on 06/03/2011, 04:55 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 06/03/2011, 04:41 PM
Quote from: blueraven on 06/03/2011, 02:50 PMWHAT THE FUCK DOES 100% GRADED SILVER EVEN MEAN?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Keith-Courage-Alpha-Zones-Turbografx-16-Collectors-Cond-/320708549280?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4aabb81aa0
This guy is copying RPGArcana from eBay. And RPGArcana is filth!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320687682301&si=0zPZgeKTM6QIpDwD9IvWbpfRkBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_7108wt_905
I can't believe this guy sold this master system for $1200+ that's nuts

Yeah it turns my stomach to see that. I see these auctions for brand new systems for $1000+ and I think no way anyone in their right mind is paying that and sure enough people are actually buying them. I think this same guy is selling a Turbo Duo with 9 games for 3 grand or something.

Thank god I got my Duo from TZD many years ago.

All this VGA graded stuff is such a sham prices of complete games are getting inflated cause of it.

csgx1 · 06/04/2011, 02:48 AM

Quote from: GameFreak on 06/03/2011, 08:11 PMok this one has gotten out of hand. $152. Let me know if they actually pay for the item, and I might consider selling mine. I have a feeling they wont pay. It just doesn't make sense??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270757278682&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Wow, price is still increasing....$177.50

On the other hand, someone got a great BIN deal for a US SCD card.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item33682a4811&item=220790933521&nma=true&pt=Video_Games_Accessories&rt=nc&si=IhosTHRFs9j68bMDZfIhunE7erQ%253D

DirkFunk · 06/04/2011, 11:29 AM

Quote from: GameFreak on 06/03/2011, 08:11 PMok this one has gotten out of hand. $152. Let me know if they actually pay for the item, and I might consider selling mine. I have a feeling they wont pay. It just doesn't make sense??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270757278682&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I have a feeling no one is going to pay for it.

DirkFunk · 06/06/2011, 01:41 PM

So a quick update. The Buyer has PAID for the card.

$202.50 . . . I almost feel dirty.

I saw this card at the same store for years. I figured I would buy it, and get it into the hands of someone that could use it. Sort of crazy how it ended up.

GameFreak · 06/06/2011, 01:48 PM

you started the bid very very low. So its all ok. The buyer should feel dirty.

roflmao · 06/06/2011, 04:21 PM

Wow. Congrats.

nat · 06/06/2011, 11:29 PM

What the hell? You could buy a complete Duo, which has the System Card built in, for less than that.

GameFreak · 06/06/2011, 11:38 PM

or a converter and a JPN super system card for about $120
....or a converter and arcade card for about $135
than you have a converter to play all kinds of JPN hueys and 60-80 change to spend on a lot of hueys.

That is one of the craziest auctions I have seen in a long time.
So many people bid, I might actually put my US version up for 99cents starting bid. I have no use for it anyway.

That is called "ebay buyer gouging", not "ebay seller gouging". Congrats Dirkfunk!

Mathius · 06/07/2011, 12:04 AM

Either way this has spiraled me off into a depression that has left me speechless!

CrackTiger · 06/07/2011, 01:34 AM

Quote from: nat on 06/06/2011, 11:29 PMWhat the hell? You could buy a complete Duo, which has the System Card built in, for less than that.

Yes, but a Duo isn't as rare of a collectible. Anyone buying hardware for functionality wouldn't bother with a U.S. CD setup at all.

Mathius · 06/07/2011, 01:57 AM

Quote from: guest on 06/07/2011, 01:34 AM
Quote from: nat on 06/06/2011, 11:29 PMWhat the hell? You could buy a complete Duo, which has the System Card built in, for less than that.
Yes, but a Duo isn't as rare of a collectible. Anyone buying hardware for functionality wouldn't bother with a U.S. CD setup at all.

I would and did. My Turbo-CD plus Super System Card has functioned nearly flawlessly since I purchased it years back. The only non-US setup I have is a core Super Grafx. I play all my US and Japanese library on my Turbo-CD w/ Murai Converter. Sure, it will need maintenance one day, but won't they all?

VestCunt · 06/07/2011, 03:04 AM

Anyone see this BS?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dynastic-Hero-TurboGrafx-16-DUO-DEMO-CD-Rare-/320705944681?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4aab905c69

Here are some highlights with commentary:

QuoteThe Dynastic Hero TurboGrafx 16 [ DUO ] DEMO CD

-R

QuoteUSA VERSION / FULL VERSION COMPLETE GAME

Because I couldn't find an ISO that said "incomplete" or "demo version" to burn onto a grocery-store CD-R.

QuoteThis appears to be a final version sent to Turbo Technologies for Demo Purposes

(my italics)
Extra Capital Letters To Give Auction An Air of Authority.

QuoteI have played the game on my Turbo Duo. (See in Photo)

Photos don't lie!

QuoteINCLUDES CD / CD CASE & a HUCARD GAME KEITH COURAGE

Because ebay pulled my last attempt to auction a CD-R.

QuoteINFO ON CD CASE:

Turbo Technologies, Inc.
6701 Center Drive West Suite 500 Los Angeles, CA 90045

Nice work, Gumshoe!

QuoteBOTH CD & HUCARD have a store # wrote in black marker ink.

As opposed to regular black marker.

QuotePurchased in 1997 from Toys R Us

Which: the used, written-on copy of a not-sold-separately hucard or the blank CD-R "demo disc"? Surely, both are common items among the worn bric-a-brac and second-hand sundries of any good Toys R' Us; especially three years after the 1994 TG16-clearance sales (before you were born).

QuoteTurbo Duo System, & TV not included.

Dang. Hey, what about the camera used to take the photos?

VestCunt · 06/07/2011, 03:05 AM

double post

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