Flash carts for the pc engine/turbo

[BigusSchmuck]

Flash carts for the pc engine/turbo is there a particular brand that you guys recommend? I'm interested in one so I can use it to test out dos ports that I port over to the pce/turbo. I figure they are better than wasting countless cdrs testing and what not and make more sense in the long run of things especially when there are people considering some sort of home made hucards. Like I said in the possible dos port thread, I'm totally serious about doing this and a good flash cart is what I need. ^^

[nat]

There are only two of that I know about: the NeoFlash, and the Tototek.

The Tototek uses a parallel (!!!) interface to connect to your computer, so if your computer was made in the last 10 years, there's a good chance you won't be able to use the Tototek. Another drawback is the ones I've seen are basically just a big giant exposed circuit board with pins on one end you stick in your console's cart slot. That's really all I know about it; I don't have anything with a parallel interface, so I've never bothered with one. Even if I did, I'm not a big fan of big, giant exposed circuit boards.

The NeoFlash is what I've got, and it's a pretty good product. The build quality is great; it's the size of an actual HuCard, with no exposed chips or anything. It uses a USB interface to connect to your computer, which is the way it should be. The NeoFlash's big (only?) drawback is that it's been determined that it has weird issues when used on consoles with a weak +5v line on the cart slot. Unfortunately, there's no way to really know if your console is one of these until you buy the cart and try it out. I've got a bunch of NEC systems, and out of them all, only my U.S. TG-16 seems to have this issue (although it's been reported by many other people as well, and it's not always U.S. consoles). I would imagine if you've only got one NEC console, and you buy the thing and it turns out your console is one of these, you'd be pretty bummed out. I don't think anyone has a way to fix this yet.

[Duo_R]

Been a while since the last  PCE Flash cart group buy, any interest out there? Need 10 to get a discount

[esteban]

Been a while since the last  PCE Flash cart group buy, any interest out there? Need 10 to get a discount 

I am. I should have bought one years ago.

[SuperPlay]

Save some cash and make your own ;-) LOL

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=10600.0

[Mishran]

Hmm... Count me in!

[SignOfZeta]

I don't know anything about the realities of programing but I think the CD-R route would make more sense. Get the game running in all the emulators and it should run on the console as well, more or less.

You'd only need to burn once in a while. You'd have to waste 100s of CD-Rs to pay for one Flashcard, and that's assuming the piece of shit actually works for you. (I have a DOA NeoFlash in my closet right now). Also, distribution will certainly be in CDROM format so you might as well get it running as-is.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I don't know anything about the realities of programing but I think the CD-R route would make more sense. Get the game running in all the emulators and it should run on the console as well, more or less.

You'd only need to burn once in a while. You'd have to waste 100s of CD-Rs to pay for one Flashcard, and that's assuming the piece of shit actually works for you. (I have a DOA NeoFlash in my closet right now). Also, distribution will certainly be in CDROM format so you might as well get it running as-is.

things that work in emulators don't always work on real hardware, lol.

Send me flash card.  I can see if it works here. my stuffs already set to use NeoFlash for testing.

[SignOfZeta]

I don't know anything about the realities of programing but I think the CD-R route would make more sense. Get the game running in all the emulators and it should run on the console as well, more or less.

You'd only need to burn once in a while. You'd have to waste 100s of CD-Rs to pay for one Flashcard, and that's assuming the piece of shit actually works for you. (I have a DOA NeoFlash in my closet right now). Also, distribution will certainly be in CDROM format so you might as well get it running as-is.

things that work in emulators don't always work on real hardware, lol.

Of course not, but...seriously.

Send me flash card.  I can see if it works here. my stuffs already set to use NeoFlash for testing.

I've tested it on a US Duo, Duo R, and PCE+IFU. Its totally fucking dead. If I still have the piece of crap I'll bring it to the Cleveland show.

[incrediblehark]

Been a while since the last  PCE Flash cart group buy, any interest out there? Need 10 to get a discount 

I'm in on a neoflash

[BigusSchmuck]

Like Arkan said, there are some things that you need to test the actual hardware on and we still don't have 100% emulation yet on the pc. Not only that, there is the small chance that cd-rs will damage my precious machines and I rather be safe than sorry. So, whats the going rate on neoflash? I'm in if it isn't going to cost an arm and a leg (like those kisado covnerters).

[Joe Redifer]

An Everdrive for the Turbo/PCE is in the works.  Everdrive is BY FAR the best product ever for flashing games since you store all of your illegal ROMZ (and homebrew, etc) on a single SD card connected to the unit.  No need to hook the Everdrive up to a computer.  So convenient and easy.  It's coming maybe summer 2012 and I can't wait.

[SignOfZeta]

Not only that, there is the small chance that cd-rs will damage my precious machines...

No, there isn't.

[Duo_R]

Everdrive? Never heard of that, sounds good

[TrûMisery]

Everdrive? Never heard of that, sounds good

Some news...

http://www.retrocollect.com/News/krikzz-to-release-pc-engine-turbografx-16-flash-cartridge-a-updated-ultimate-mega-drive-everdrive.html

[spenoza]

I MIGHT be in on a NeoFlash, depending on what the price would be, although I expect I would be even more interested in an EverDrive.

[Duo_R]

If we get 10 orders Neoflash drops to $99.

[spenoza]

I am not flush with cash, so even $99 is a bit rich for my tastes.

[SignOfZeta]

Everdrive? Never heard of that, sounds good

Some news...

http://www.retrocollect.com/News/krikzz-to-release-pc-engine-turbografx-16-flash-cartridge-a-updated-ultimate-mega-drive-everdrive.html

Yeah, I'll be wanting one of those suckers.

[SNKNostalgia]

PCE Everdrive sounds like the way to go. I was always a little weary of buying a NeoFlash 128. This is why I have been holding out on getting one, even though I came close to getting one almost.
I didn't get one mostly for these 3 reasons:

1) Build quality. Sometimes they won't work with your system or in Sign of Zeta's case, not at all. blehhh

2) 128mb internal ram. It is enough memory to enjoy quite a few games, but seems a bit annoying to have to delete games to put more on.

3) No extra features similar to a Pro Action Replay for example. This of course isn't huge deal, but would be very nice.

[BigusSchmuck]

Probably go for the Everdrive. $100 for a neoflash is a bit high for me considering I could buy like 500 decent cdrs for the same price.

[SignOfZeta]

PCE Everdrive sounds like the way to go. I was always a little weary of buying a NeoFlash 128. This is why I have been holding out on getting one, even though I came close to getting one almost.
I didn't get one mostly for these 3 reasons:

1) Build quality. Sometimes they won't work with your system or in Sign of Zeta's case, not at all. blehhh

2) 128mb internal ram. It is enough memory to enjoy quite a few games, but seems a bit annoying to have to delete games to put more on.

3) No extra features similar to a Pro Action Replay for example. This of course isn't huge deal, but would be very nice.

I don't care if it takes its own batteries, only holds one game at a time, and has zero special features. As long as it:

1) Works with every game

2) Doesn't require obsolete interface methods or a proprietary loader client

3) Isn't a piece of crap

I would be nice if it were:

4) Very popular

...because then people who make fan hacks and such would work to make sure their stuff runs on it without issue. I don't honestly know how much of a problem is though.

[Joe Redifer]

Everdrive is the ONLY way to go.  Seriously, every other Flash-type device for any system should be ashamed for being so shitty in comparison.  You'll see.  According to the man who makes it, he says it will be compatible with both the PCE and the Turbo.  So you won't need an expensive converter to use it on your TurboGrafx-16 and it will work natively on the PCE.

[pceslayer]

Everdrive is finally coming to the TG/PCE!!! Day 1!!

[Arkhan Asylum]

Everdrive is the ONLY way to go.  Seriously, every other Flash-type device for any system should be ashamed for being so shitty in comparison.  You'll see.  According to the man who makes it, he says it will be compatible with both the PCE and the Turbo.  So you won't need an expensive converter to use it on your TurboGrafx-16 and it will work natively on the PCE.

The NeoFlash is compatible with both systems.

[spenoza]

Will the PCE read CDRWs, or only CDRs? If it will, for some reason, read CDRWs, there's your cheap testing setup right there.

[SignOfZeta]

I've never even tried CDRWs on a PCE before. I doubt it works, but even if it did the only advantage would be environmental friendliness. RWs are a pain in the ass for any purpose. I've only ever used them once or twice for anything, ever.

CDRs are $0.18 each these days. Its not like the old days where you had to burn every version of your program for testing. Emulation should do for minor changes, burning a CDR every once in a while to verify or distribute.

[Supremo_Lagarto]

Everdrive is the ONLY way to go.  Seriously, every other Flash-type device for any system should be ashamed for being so shitty in comparison.  You'll see.  According to the man who makes it, he says it will be compatible with both the PCE and the Turbo.  So you won't need an expensive converter to use it on your TurboGrafx-16 and it will work natively on the PCE.

The NeoFlash is compatible with both systems.

Neo Flash is very picky with the systems it will work with. It is basically the luck of the draw. My Japanese Duo won't work with it (games load but crash and freeze within minutes), but a cheap beat up Turbo Grafx I purchased from ebay for $15 works with it perfectly. It requires a stronger +5 volt line in the Hucard slot than is necessary to play official games. Some systems have it, some do not.

[incrediblehark]

I would be willing to wait for the everdrive, maybe there will be a bulk deal for it like the neoflash?

[Supremo_Lagarto]

I would be willing to wait for the everdrive, maybe there will be a bulk deal for it like the neoflash?

Where is this rumor of a PC Engine Everdrive coming from? Can we get a source? There were only something like 12.5 million PC Engine / Turbo's sold world wide, while there were 40 million Genesis / Megadrives sold worldwide and new Mega Drive knock-offs still being made.  Point being there are at least several million working Mega Drive's out there still being used, creating a significant market. That advantage is not shared by the PC Engine.

Though everyone here would like a PC Engine Everdrive I can't see there being enough of a market for a professional developer to create and distribute one. I would imagine that is the reason the primitive Neo Team Flash cards are so expensive, to compensate for low demand.

[Joe Redifer]

The guy who made the Everdrive said so on his site and I even asked him details about it.  He's working on the super-spectacular version of the Genesis Everdrive first, though (run games straight off of the SD card or some such without copying first, FM support for SMS games maybe, online support for multiplayer games, etc).

[Supremo_Lagarto]

The guy who made the Everdrive said so on his site and I even asked him details about it.  He's working on the super-spectacular version of the Genesis Everdrive first, though (run games straight off of the SD card or some such without copying first, FM support for SMS games maybe, online support for multiplayer games, etc).

My understanding is that the developer is the Ukrainian KRIKzz. I looked up the status of any PC Engine project and sure enough he does say that he has a concept for one. However, he indicates that (1) it is basically a low priority, (2) that he only has a PCB at this time, and (3) that any serious development will not occur before the summer of 2012. He did not seem too enthusiastic in his posts and I was not entirely sure if he was even serious when I read his responses.

Profit and demand are factors here.  This is why I would guess we will probably never see an Atari Jaguar flash device. I would be really annoyed if a Jag Everdrive came out before a PC Engine Everdrive came out though. LOL.

Here would be a source:
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=537657&postcount=293
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31764&page=6

However, several different sites are all saying the Turbo Everdrive is coming out anytime now, except of course KRIKzz' own site.

[Joe Redifer]

To hell with the Jaguar.  It doesn't deserve anything simply because it is a Jaguar.  Its fans are literally insane... they have to be.  It's the Jaguar after all.  The games on that thing are 90% pure shit.

You don't know Krikzz very well.  He is rarely ever "enthusiastic".  Nowhere did he say he wouldn't start working on it until summer of 2012.  He said "PCE release around summer 2012-ish".  But right now, the Mega Everdrive is his priority.  He's not looking to sell millions and millions.  I'm sure he'd sell more than enough to make up for the cost of designing one.  With your broken logic, the other PCE flashcards simply shouldn't exist, so "profit and demand" and comparisons to how much the Mega Drive sold worldwide are 100% irrelevant.

[SignOfZeta]

Jag fans are insane. That system sucks so much dick its just sad...however, it is the most fun Atari console (not counting the Lynx, which destroys anything with "Atari" written on it) so people who are just Atari fans in general love the piece of crap. (see: Stockholm Syndrome).

If I were making flash carts I would make a Jag one for sure. The systems fans will buy fucking anything, plus they are mostly older types with good jobs and have the money to spend.

[Arkhan Asylum]

There were only something like 12.5 million PC Engine / Turbo's sold world wide, while there were 40 million Genesis / Megadrives sold worldwide and new Mega Drive knock-offs still being made.  Point being there are at least several million working Mega Drive's out there still being used, creating a significant market. That advantage is not shared by the PC Engine.

At least several million? Give me a break.  It only takes ~100 people to create a significant market for something as podunk as a flash device for a 25+ year old console

Though everyone here would like a PC Engine Everdrive I can't see there being enough of a market for a professional developer to create and distribute one. I would imagine that is the reason the primitive Neo Team Flash cards are so expensive, to compensate for low demand.

Primitive?  Really?  They're as slim as a real HuCard, have a reset button, SRAM, and a custom USB reader for it.  That's why they're so expensive.  I don't know what's primitive about it.

Oh wait:

The NeoFlash is compatible with both systems.

Neo Flash is very picky with the systems it will work with. It is basically the luck of the draw. My Japanese Duo won't work with it (games load but crash and freeze within minutes), but a cheap beat up Turbo Grafx I purchased from ebay for $15 works with it perfectly. It requires a stronger +5 volt line in the Hucard slot than is necessary to play official games. Some systems have it, some do not.

You just tried to invalidate my statement, but ended up agreeing with me.  Are you sure you meant to do that?

It not working due to dodgy +5v line doesn't mean dick as far as region compatibility.  That +5v issue is present in either region.

I don't know on my own since I don't have this issue, but I wonder if big cards like Sys3, Arcade Card, SF][ or Populous work on a system where NeoFlash doesn't.

I also wonder if the lower cost NeoFlash would work fine where the one with SRAM and crap doesn't.

but what does it matter? It's all primitive caveman technology.

[SNKNostalgia]

Jag fans are insane. That system sucks so much dick its just sad...however, it is the most fun Atari console (not counting the Lynx, which destroys anything with "Atari" written on it) so people who are just Atari fans in general love the piece of crap. (see: Stockholm Syndrome).

It is funny how I have always wanted a Jag just for Aliens vs Predator for years. I have fun memories renting the system and playing it in 8th grade. Now I have lost some interest in getting one with the game. I did mess around with the game somewhat recently on the Jaguar emulator, which development has been abandoned for like 6-7 years now. I wish someone would make a full functioning emulator for the system since I really don't want to buy one just for one game.

Hell, I am not even sure what it would all run me if I bought it with AvP. Is it pretty expensive for the game? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the Jaguar for the past few years goes for around $30 right? If it doesn't cost much, I may just get one anyway. I am not even sure what other games are worth a damn on it. Maybe Raiden?

[Arkhan Asylum]

The Jaguar has one good game.

Tempest 2000

oh and Defender 2000 or whatever.

AKA: 3Dish diddleremakes of games.

[Duo_R]

Didn't the 5V line cause problems with region switch boards?

There were only something like 12.5 million PC Engine / Turbo's sold world wide, while there were 40 million Genesis / Megadrives sold worldwide and new Mega Drive knock-offs still being made.  Point being there are at least several million working Mega Drive's out there still being used, creating a significant market. That advantage is not shared by the PC Engine.

At least several million? Give me a break.  It only takes ~100 people to create a significant market for something as podunk as a flash device for a 25+ year old console

Though everyone here would like a PC Engine Everdrive I can't see there being enough of a market for a professional developer to create and distribute one. I would imagine that is the reason the primitive Neo Team Flash cards are so expensive, to compensate for low demand.

Primitive?  Really?  They're as slim as a real HuCard, have a reset button, SRAM, and a custom USB reader for it.  That's why they're so expensive.  I don't know what's primitive about it.

Oh wait:

The NeoFlash is compatible with both systems.

Neo Flash is very picky with the systems it will work with. It is basically the luck of the draw. My Japanese Duo won't work with it (games load but crash and freeze within minutes), but a cheap beat up Turbo Grafx I purchased from ebay for $15 works with it perfectly. It requires a stronger +5 volt line in the Hucard slot than is necessary to play official games. Some systems have it, some do not.

You just tried to invalidate my statement, but ended up agreeing with me.  Are you sure you meant to do that?

It not working due to dodgy +5v line doesn't mean dick as far as region compatibility.  That +5v issue is present in either region.

I don't know on my own since I don't have this issue, but I wonder if big cards like Sys3, Arcade Card, SF][ or Populous work on a system where NeoFlash doesn't.

I also wonder if the lower cost NeoFlash would work fine where the one with SRAM and crap doesn't.

but what does it matter? It's all primitive caveman technology.

[Arkhan Asylum]

That still has nothing to do with the flash card working on either regions system.

You tell the program to burn for TG or PCE.  The card is regionless until you burn stuff.  It works on either unit.

[Duo_R]

I think Raiden would be interesting to check out, but ya most of it is crap

The Jaguar has one good game.

Tempest 2000

oh and Defender 2000 or whatever.

AKA: 3Dish diddleremakes of games.

[Supremo_Lagarto]

You just tried to invalidate my statement, but ended up agreeing with me.  Are you sure you meant to do that?

No, I wasn't trying to invalidate his statement. I was agreeing with him. When I said "picky" I meant "picky" at random, not by region. I hope this isn't going to turn into another one of those things where someone wants to win an argument when there was not one to begin with.

When I have recommended people get an American Turbo Grafx unit for the device I was suggesting this because these are the cheapest NEC consoles and the least likely to have been modified by previous owners. I bought one for $15 just a few days ago.  I was not suggesting that only the American Turbo Grafx did not have this problem. The thing is, if you buy an American Turbo Grafx on eBay and it doesn't work with the card, you can easily sell it and buy another one until you find one that works. This is not the case with the Duo, which is quite expensive.

When I said the Neo Team flash device was primitive, I meant that it was primitive in comparison to the Everdrive which can support more memory and interchangeable flash cards. The Neo Team flash devices also do not work on all NEC systems. 16 Megabytes of flash memory is incredibly primitive by today's standards. The Everdrive is far superior to the Neo Team PC Engine flash device (and works on all standard Genesis/Megadrives as far as I know). Isn't that why you are all so enthusiastic that one will be released?

Whether we like it or not, there are less NEC Consoles out there than there are SNES, Genesis, Nintendos and their clones (which are still being made). This means that our beloved PC Engine will not get priority treatment over these other consoles. Again, this is just a reality we have to deal with.  I'm not saying it will never happen, I'm just telling you guys not to get your hopes up and not to hold your breath.

You don't know Krikzz very well.  He is rarely ever "enthusiastic".  Nowhere did he say he wouldn't start working on it until summer of 2012.  He said "PCE release around summer 2012-ish".  But right now, the Mega Everdrive is his priority.  He's not looking to sell millions and millions.  I'm sure he'd sell more than enough to make up for the cost of designing one.  With your broken logic, the other PCE flashcards simply shouldn't exist, so "profit and demand" and comparisons to how much the Mega Drive sold worldwide are 100% irrelevant.

I didn't state that I knew him. I took his statement of a 2012 release to be an implication that serious development would not take place before 2012. The amount of consoles existing in the world which users would be buying these devices for is quite relevant because not only does the developer have more incentive to make those devices instead of devices for more obscure consoles, but he also has to support those devices that he has already sold. That is WHY the Mega Everdrive is the higher priority.

He is not all about profit, but profit is a factor. It isn't black or white.

[Joe Redifer]

He's a Sega fan.  Otherwise he'd drop the Everdrive and focus on the Super Everdrive or maybe an NES Everdrive (which isn't even in the works as far as I know).  The market is there.  He just has other projects right now and I am willing to wait until late 2012 for the superior product.

[esteban]

Well, folks, I am still interested in the original plan (neoflash group rate), even if this fellow in the Ukraine (shout out to a fellow Ukranian!) delivers a well-functioning device 7-12 months from now.

[Arkhan Asylum]

No, I wasn't trying to invalidate his statement. I was agreeing with him. When I said "picky" I meant "picky" at random, not by region. I hope this isn't going to turn into another one of those things where someone wants to win an argument when there was not one to begin with.

Whats with the his/him nonsense?  I don't have a clone.  There isn't really an argument from what I've gathered. 

When I have recommended people get an American Turbo Grafx unit for the device I was suggesting this because these are the cheapest NEC consoles

Nope.  You're high.  Also, you can drop the American part.  It's kind of implied when you say Turbo Grafx-16.  No one cares about the PAL one.

and the least likely to have been modified by previous owners.

Nope again! Region modded TG-16's are more common than region modded PCEs.  RGB mods are all over the duo, etc.  but this is irrelevant. 

I bought one for $15 just a few days ago.  I was not suggesting that only the American Turbo Grafx did not have this problem. The thing is, if you buy an American Turbo Grafx on eBay and it doesn't work with the card, you can easily sell it and buy another one until you find one that works.

15$ is low, and you got lucky.  They typically go for 30-50 in shops, and on eBay typically go for that, or more.  They also cost more to ship and never come with the dust cover.

This is not the case with the Duo, which is quite expensive.

You can resell a "broken" (read: Doesn't work with flashcard) Duo in a matter of days. You can also easily sell a PCE.  I don't know where you're getting your facts from, but you should stop getting them from there.

I got my boxed duo-r for 60$, by the way.

When I said the Neo Team flash device was primitive, I meant that it was primitive in comparison to the Everdrive which can support more memory and interchangeable flash cards. The Neo Team flash devices also do not work on all NEC systems. 16 Megabytes of flash memory is incredibly primitive by today's standards. The Everdrive is far superior to the Neo Team PC Engine flash device (and works on all standard Genesis/Megadrives as far as I know). Isn't that why you are all so enthusiastic that one will be released?

Flashcards for 25 year old consoles are primitive by 10 years ago's standards.  What is your point?  NeoFlash can store a healthy amount of games and supports all games released.  So what, it doesn't support multiple memory cards.  It's a FLASHcard.   Use the easy to use USB device and reflash the frigging thing.  I fit like 20 games on it at once.  I can't imagine you really needing to have more than 20 on a card at any given time unless you're playing the first 10 minutes of a game and going OH OK TIME FOR ANOTHER.

Also, who's to say the everdrive for PCE won't have two issues:

1: It will be a huge honkin' board with shit all over it, as opposed to the primitive neoflash's slim form factor that matches a real HuCard and fits nicely in a jewel case with the rest of my collection
2: What if it too has functionality issues due to power consumption?  That would be hilarious.  I hope it does so I can laugh.

Whether we like it or not, there are less NEC Consoles out there than there are SNES, Genesis, Nintendos and their clones (which are still being made). This means that our beloved PC Engine will not get priority treatment over these other consoles. Again, this is just a reality we have to deal with.  I'm not saying it will never happen, I'm just telling you guys not to get your hopes up and not to hold your breath.

I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the Turbob gets plenty of priority treatment.  There are pretty much just as many current PCE fans as there are Genesis fans.  It's not like we're a frigging Odyssey forum, flailing around about wanting a flashcard with all the blinky light bar programs.

We have more homebrew projects announced/in progress than the Sega, SNES, and NES combined, so neener neener.  \o/

I didn't state that I knew him. I took his statement of a 2012 release to be an implication that serious development would not take place before 2012.

A whole whopping 26 days.  Sue him! 

The amount of consoles existing in the world which users would be buying these devices for is quite relevant
 

No it's not, probably.  I'm pretty sure the guy does this for himself.  If 3 people bought one he'd probably be just as thrilled as if 300 bought them. 
 
 

because not only does the developer have more incentive to make those devices instead of devices for more obscure consoles,
 

FFS, the PCE/TG isn't obscure.  Quit being dumb.  You've already admitted you're doing it, so stop it.
 
 

but he also has to support those devices that he has already sold. That is WHY the Mega Everdrive is the higher priority.

Supporting the device has little to do with how many have sold. 

You do realize that the target audience of any retro console is not too large, and picking one over the other really doesn't matter?  It's personal preference.  Why are you making up crap about the priorities of someone you don't even know?  He likes Sega more than the other stuff, so he is doing the Sega stuff first.

THAT IS WHY IT HAS PRIORITY.  It's not like he's got a spreadsheet of projected profits and release cycles spanning the next 5 years.  Get a grip.

He is not all about profit, but profit is a factor. It isn't black or white.

I doubt profit is a factor.  Anyone going into this crap with profit in mind is a dumbass.  People who engineer devices typically aren't dumbasses.

That was fun.

[NecroPhile]

The Neo Team flash devices also do not work on all NEC systems.

What makes you think that this Everdrive won't have similar problems with undervoltage in the HuCard slot?  I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't even less compatible, as it'll have to power the SD slot and bus in addition to a whole lot more flash memory.

[Arkhan Asylum]

The Neo Team flash devices also do not work on all NEC systems.

What makes you think that this Everdrive won't have similar problems with undervoltage in the HuCard slot?  I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't even less compatible, as it'll have to power the SD slot and bus in addition to a whole lot more flash memory.

I ALREADYSAID THAT.

in my tl;dr wall of text.

jeeeeze.

lol

[Mishran]

Well, folks, I am still interested in the original plan (neoflash group rate), even if this fellow in the Ukraine (shout out to a fellow Ukranian!) delivers a well-functioning device 7-12 months from now.

Perhaps a new thread for it is in order? Either way, I'm still interested as well.

[NecroPhile]

I ALREADY SAID THAT.

Heh, yeah.... too many words to read. 

[lastcallhall]

So, I know I'm new here, but I've been an active member over at Sega-16 for a while now, and I would like to weigh in:

As an owner of an original Sega Everdrive, Super Everdrive, Master Everdrive and Everdrive 64, I can say with absolute certainty that Krikzz's products not only offer the most bang for the buck, but are made of high quality components, as well. Not a single drive has shown an error in the roughly year or so time span that I've owned the various devices. Like many, I have been waiting for a TG-16/PCE solution that was flash cart based to arrive, and it's nice to know that Krikzz has decided to work on one for us. Like Joe has said, however, he is a Sega man at heart and has opted to deliver an upgraded version of his original Everdrive (which sounds awesome by reading the specs) before he tackles any more projects. That said, I'm confident that he will deliver on all fronts by the time frame he's promised, based on his previous track record. To top it off, he's also gone on record saying the Everdrive-16, or whatever he decides to call it will land somewhere in the 70-80 USD range, which falls in line with his other products. I've looked at the Neoflash cart and it just doesn't compare. I'd gladly wait a few more months and play with the few Hu-Cards that I can, while I wait for this delicious piece of hardware to become available.

To me, it's a no-brainer.

[Arkhan Asylum]

It isn't the quality of the hardware that is the concern.

it's the obvious power-draw from anything more than a simple card game.