Magical Chase Waiting List

[CGQuarterly]

You need to up your game, as your trollsauce is too weak to garner anything more than a meh.

A meh will suffice.

I'm fairly new around here and even I think you're a loser.

[RoyVegas]

I'm fairly new around here and even I think you're a loser.

Cool.  Thanks for sharing.

[Sparky]

I'm fairly new around here and even I think you're a loser.

<<still laughing>>

[NecroPhile]

<<still laughing>>

<< sips wine >>

[JoshTurboTrollX]

I seem to be the only one on the Deep Blue waiting list.

I think I'll also add myself to the Keith Courage waiting list too,
C'mon you selfish bastards out there stop hogging all the copies, share the Keithy love.


 

You are in luck HARDCRUE OTAKI!!  I happen to have an extra Keith Courage.  Its a loosey, but still very valuable!!  I offer this to you!!

This waiting list is actually a good idea!

[alexsduo]

Damn pics..





forgot this:

[SignOfZeta]

I actually laughed out loud there.

[BlueBMW]

Wow, that's quite an effort alexsduo   Thanks for the lulz, and honestly nice collection of turbob

[TheClash603]

I scanned that picture, but didn't see a Magical Chase?

[BlueBMW]

I scanned that picture, but didn't see a Magical Chase?

I think thats the single game he's missing.

[hizaygizirlz]

Great Journal.  This turned into a good thread.

[CGQuarterly]

I dunno, that's an OK collection.  Without Magical Chase in the picture though, it just seems like junk. 

Chris

[PunkCryborg]

you should go on a mission to beat every game you have first and then go on your hunt for MC. That would make it truly epic

[blueraven]

The "Yes I Heart You Too" was priceless

this post was a side-buster

[NecroPhile]

Quality lulz indeed. 

Now if you really wanna earn my respect, you're gonna have to find the three booby discs.

[Sparky]

You need to up your game, as your trollsauce is too weak to garner anything more than a meh.

A meh will suffice.

I'm fairly new around here and even I think you're a loser.

<<still f@cking laughing>>>

[alexsduo]

You said trollsauce

theclash: hmmm you didn't see MC?

BlueBMW: Thanks, hoped someone thought it was lol-worthy

jibbajabba: I agree

hizaygizirlz:

Necromancer:  The bikini girls games?

I have been collecting a pretty long time, and I have not bought too much TG stuff recently, I probably couldn't afford it now!

I have had at least a couple chances to buy mc in the last year, I have just waited too long or someone bought it out from under me.  I found someone on craigslist, but he didn't want to ship it (understandably), another who had it complete and wanted more than he paid (I just want it loose), another who wound up selling on ebay.  And then there are several more people who, for the time being are not interested in selling it.  So, I figured I could find someone here who no longer wanted it and etc.  So it is not that I cannot find it, it is that something happens and I am not able to buy it. 

I guess it is not that hard to find it/buy it, but people who you find on craigslist are reluctant to ship something like mc, so I thought I would find someone on here... I won't delete my prior postings, but I won't do it again, my bad.

I do think that completing my TG would make me gain at least 100 hp, and 50 lvl up.  I need 2 games for my virtual boy as well, but the hp/lvl up would not be as good, nor do I want to spend any money on shit games...

I am very surprised at the interest level of TG on ebay, and I am dumbfounded and confused everytime I see sellers listing everything as RARE, OMG RARE and so on.  I would love to get a copy of MC, but I don't want to drive up prices online. 

Good day!

[alexsduo]

You know, this whole gouging problem could be solved...

Just trade to members (or pay), but mostly trade, so it stays in the community, and the price doesn't just keep going up and up...

[geise]

If I had a US MC I would trade i for Coryoon.  That's it!  It's the only pc-e game left I really want to buy.

[CrackTiger]

You know, this whole gouging problem could be solved...

Just trade to members (or pay), but mostly trade, so it stays in the community, and the price doesn't just keep going up and up...

That's how the price jumped from $100 - $1000 in the first place.

[jayamine]

Funny story. Back when I was starting up MAGFest 1, I approached Steve Garwood about doing some anniversary reprint discs. Fancy stuff, limited editions, numbered, original Duo games in every way except maybe with a MAGFest logo somewhere. This would ahve been late 2001, early 2002.

He kind of laughed at the idea. If you guys remember, he did a limited reprint (1000) of Dungeon Explorer II, disc and back insert only (instructions were photocopied).  That would have been 1994 maybe.

Basically what he said was that he had so much trouble getting permissions and sneaking that reprint past the (at the time) rapidly collapsing TTI, that it wouldn't be worth the effort or trouble to do anymore reprint. He also made some vague mention to have thought about it several times and considered trying it before, etc.

Specifically, I asked him to do a hundred copies each of Bonk 3, Super Air Zonk, Dynastic Hero, Beyond Shadowgate, and Terraforming. Of course I was 21 at the time and completely unaware of the minimum 1000 copies rule.

Anyway, would be easy to do nowadays with the technology, except for the instruction booklets. But it would take a chunk of change to 1000 of those games, plus someone would have to eat the investment until enough sold to make it back. Just ask BT how long he sat on 1000 copies of Implode (3-4 years I think). 

I imagine doing a chip would be even harder than a CD. Still, makes for a fun thought :-)

I got $500 for my Super Air Zonk and Bonk 3 several years ago. Wish I hadn't sold them now.

[alexsduo]

If I had a US MC I would trade i for Coryoon.  That's it!  It's the only pc-e game left I really want to buy.

I will keep my Coryoon, ready and waiting for ya...

You know, this whole gouging problem could be solved...

Just trade to members (or pay), but mostly trade, so it stays in the community, and the price doesn't just keep going up and up...

That's how the price jumped from $100 - $1000 in the first place.

From the members, or from throwing that on ebay?

I would be totally down for some reprint action, manuals, cd, or hu... If we received all copyright and trademark clearance, of course.

[jayamine]

The CDs are easy to make, but they'd be burned instead of pressed and the undersides wouldn't look the same. (Meteor Blaster DX for example). A CD labeling kit would take care of the disc art easily ... with the right ink and right labels. Back inserts are also a cinch and they're virtually indistinguishable.

It's the instruction booklets that are problematic. (cover and back art are easy enough, just the interior is the problem) We'd have to get originals of some of those rare ones and then be willing to pop the staples and flatten them all for scanning. Good luck getting a Magical Chase owner to comply. There's no way my Dynastic Hero booklet is getting un-stapled.

Still doesn't solve the problem of producing chips. I bet Brandon Cobb over at Super Fighter Team would know a way to make HuCards. He's a genius at finding manufacturers in "middle-of-nowhere China", etc.

[SMF]

These are all good idea's but one thing would drastically backfire. The ORIGINALS would skyrocket in price overnight. Cause there are some of us forum members that would still like to get their hands on a original game. Not to mention the non forum members that would jack the cost up. MC would start looking like a bargin at $1700 when they are asking for double maybe even triple.

[Bernie]

I will get this game, but it will be the pcengine version.  I could care less if it was the USA one, no matter what the differences are.  I have one more game to get ahead of this one, then I will own MC.

[NecroPhile]

The CDs are easy to make, but they'd be burned instead of pressed and the undersides wouldn't look the same.

Real pressed discs are easy to have made and at similar per disc costs to CDRs; they just have a higher minimum print run.

These are all good idea's but one thing would drastically backfire. The ORIGINALS would skyrocket in price overnight. Cause there are some of us forum members that would still like to get their hands on a original game.

There is no reason to believe that this would happen (look to Sapphire for proof).  Nobody is sitting around thinking "Game XXX isn't worth that kind of money to me, so I don't want it.... oh, there's a boot available?  Well that changes everything - I must buy an original!"

[Arkhan Asylum]

The CDs are easy to make, but they'd be burned instead of pressed and the undersides wouldn't look the same. (Meteor Blaster DX for example). A CD labeling kit would take care of the disc art easily ... with the right ink and right labels. Back inserts are also a cinch and they're virtually indistinguishable.

Press them like I did for Insanity.  You can go as low as 300  minimum. 

It's the instruction booklets that are problematic. (cover and back art are easy enough, just the interior is the problem) We'd have to get originals of some of those rare ones and then be willing to pop the staples and flatten them all for scanning. Good luck getting a Magical Chase owner to comply. There's no way my Dynastic Hero booklet is getting un-stapled.

Unstapling an instruction book is pretty fool-proof.  lol

Still doesn't solve the problem of producing chips. I bet Brandon Cobb over at Super Fighter Team would know a way to make HuCards. He's a genius at finding manufacturers in "middle-of-nowhere China", etc.

uhh. Where have you been?

www.aetherbyte.com

We're in Cleveland, OH.  Not China.

Fuck Stupid Fighter Team.  We don't need his holier than thou horseshit retarding up the Turbob scene. 

Cobb doesn't know dick about Turbob.

[RegalSin]

How would you contact a game company?

Just walk in threw their doors? because all I know if I call somebody on the phone I am just going to get a moron secretary who makes excuses.

Get Hudson Soft to pre-order for a 500000 copies for 2000 dollars a piece.

[Arkhan Asylum]

How would you contact a game company?

You write a formal letter.  and by you, I mean someone else because you'll fuck it up and start talking about this one time you were wandering through the forest and encountered minotaurs.

[Bernie]

How would you contact a game company?

You write a formal letter.  and by you, I mean someone else because you'll fuck it up and start talking about this one time you were wandering through the forest and encountered minotaurs.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  Thats funny shit right there.

[CrackTiger]

If I had a US MC I would trade i for Coryoon.  That's it!  It's the only pc-e game left I really want to buy.

I will keep my Coryoon, ready and waiting for ya...

You know, this whole gouging problem could be solved...

Just trade to members (or pay), but mostly trade, so it stays in the community, and the price doesn't just keep going up and up...

That's how the price jumped from $100 - $1000 in the first place.

From the members, or from throwing that on ebay?

Both. One led to the other.

[SMF]

These are all good idea's but one thing would drastically backfire. The ORIGINALS would skyrocket in price overnight. Cause there are some of us forum members that would still like to get their hands on a original game.

There is no reason to believe that this would happen (look to Sapphire for proof).  Nobody is sitting around thinking "Game XXX isn't worth that kind of money to me, so I don't want it.... oh, there's a boot available?  Well that changes everything - I must buy an original!"[/quote]
You make a valid point, but there is still those people that seek out the originals for the collector aspect of it. Look at any mint Beatles album. You can buy the reissues but people still go ape shit for a mint White Album lol.

[NecroPhile]

You make a valid point, but there is still those people that seek out the originals for the collector aspect of it. Look at any mint Beatles album. You can buy the reissues but people still go ape shit for a mint White Album lol.

Of course they do, but they don't want the original album because the reissues were produced.

[alexsduo]

How would you contact a game company?

You write a formal letter.  and by you, I mean someone else because you'll fuck it up and start talking about this one time you were wandering through the forest and encountered minotaurs.

I say, ha ha


So Soylent green is forum members?

[jayamine]

I'd be afraid my instruction booklet would get roughed up in the un-stapling process. And 300 minimum pressing makes a lot of difference. That's great news. (I always thought it was 1000)

I didn't know there was so much love for Cobb here. I've dealt with him a few times, seemed okay to me ... but please do tell what's wrong with him. (I'm rather ambivalent on the subject.)

One more thing, where can we have Hus produced here in the USA?

I'll write the letter if you guys need. I'll be arrogant and toot my horn for a minute here. I have a Terminal Masters in Writing. I'm working on a PhD in Writing. I've taught College Composition for seven years now. There's not much else I'm good at, but I can write a letter and be professional and diplomatic when I need to be. Just let me know what you need and I'll be glad to help.

[MotherGunner]

That is very impressive Jay! (Your education).

[jayamine]

Thank you :-) But let's concentrate on something vastly more important than education and art & humanities and scholarship and all that ..... let's concentrate on making turbo-grafx games!

[jayamine]

Wow .. wait a minute ... where have I been? Arkhan ... how and where did you make HuCards? That's amazing!

[Arkhan Asylum]

Wow .. wait a minute ... where have I been? Arkhan ... how and where did you make HuCards? That's amazing!

The credit goes to TheOldMan, the other dude at Aetherbyte.  They were made in Cleveland, OH.  They've been in the works all year.  We had goonier prototypes demo'd at CCAG back in June.    This is the more refined "hey this is pretty awesome" version.


As for Cobb:

The guy's a moron.  He's full of himself and blabs about how Super Fighter Team is the best at what they do (which is take other peoples work and publish it, taking most if not all of the credit).  His attitude shows that he is more interested in his image/making $$ than he is video games. 

His site has little things you start to notice that make him sound idiotic.  There's the IGN quote on the homepage. The quote is retarded, and using it to look better makes you doubletarded. 

Then he claims to be the most dedicated.  That's debatable, considering the people who program these games are arguably far more dedicated than the guy who does the publishing.  Also, http://matranet.net/
does high quality publishing for MSX and Spectrum.  I have many of those games.  They are more dedicated, IMO.  The people in that group actively hang with the developers and stay involved.  They don't shove themselves up on some pedestal and go HURRR I AM THE BEST.

My favorite still is his raging ignorance.  Star Odyssey's page has "We're proud to bring yet another first to the classic gaming market: Japanese partnership!"

There were Euro/Japanese MSX partnerships way before this putz acquired the rights to Super Fighter and went on to make a mockery of the game and name.  If you think you're doing it first in 2011, you're a retart and obviously have zero clue what you are talking about and aren't as dedicated as you claim to be.  Woomb/Bazix/D4/lolMSXdiditalready.

OldRover could tell you more about the time Cobb approached him about making Turbo Grafx HuCards. 

I pity anyone who gets suckered in by the Cobbwebb and lets the guy basically take all the credit for their actual work.  He's like the Steve Jobs of retro gaming.  You wouldn't believe how many people see SUPER FIGHTER TEAM and think the guy writes these games himself.  It's because he makes mention of the original programming group on each page, at the bottom, barely... and then his big stupid looking logo dwarfs everything else. 

Plus he basically only posts on forums to peddle his latest game, which is usually a Sega game in a shitty clamshell that shatters like a 90 year olds hip the first time you try opening it.  He doesn't care about any of this stuff or the people involved.  He just wants to go HURRRR I PUBLSIHED A GAMES .

I hope he approaches me one day so I can punch him in the nose with a power glove on.

It sucks too, since the games he publishes are pretty neat.  (Except for the bug in Beggar Prince that renders it unplayable/have to restart).   I still haven't grabbed Star Odyssey.  I'll order it, even though I hate giving that pole smoker any of my cash.

[Bernie]

Question guys.  Say I wanted to have some runs done, such as Bonk 3, Beyond Shadowgate, or whatever...  Looking at the companies that actually handle the disc pressing, such as the one Arkhan used, there is a form to fill out.  Basically saying you own the rights to be able to repro it, bla bla bla.  How does one get around that?  Is it even checked on?  I mean, Sapphire was done somehow...

[Arkhan Asylum]

They won't replicate anything that's still bound by copyright.  you have to sign a form declaring that this is all your intellectual property.

Now, if you were to go to Changs CD and Chicken Emporium, I doubt they would care.  Overseas produced bootlegs are normal, lol

[Bernie]

They won't replicate anything that's still bound by copyright.  you have to sign a form declaring that this is all your intellectual property.

Now, if you were to go to Changs CD and Chicken Emporium, I doubt they would care.  Overseas produced bootlegs are normal, lol

Well, if thats the case, then a lot of the games we had talked about getting pressed cant be done, right?  Or am I missing something...  For example, The Dynastic Hero or MM3.

[Arkhan Asylum]

They won't replicate anything that's still bound by copyright.  you have to sign a form declaring that this is all your intellectual property.

Now, if you were to go to Changs CD and Chicken Emporium, I doubt they would care.  Overseas produced bootlegs are normal, lol

Well, if thats the case, then a lot of the games we had talked about getting pressed cant be done, right?  Or am I missing something...  For example, The Dynastic Hero or MM3. 

You'd have to do it at an overseas presser.  Or lie when you sign the forms and hope noone notices at the pressing house, lol.

[geise]

Haha!  "Oh really!?  I didn't know!" 

[Arkhan Asylum]

well on the bright side, I doubt they could verify any of it as they probably don't have a Duo layin around.

lol

[alexsduo]

turbografx > lawsuit

[jayamine]

Don't you remember the fine print on all post post NEC Working Designs stuff, "blah blah registered trademarks of Turbo-Grafx. Who cares now? They're history anyway."

Yes it's ironic that Vic used to print stuff like that.

Arkhan, you're hilarious. Yes I DO kinda catch a whiff of ego every time I talk to Cobb. I can't blame him too much. I love screaming up and down how I started MAGFest now that it's getting really big. (Ego? guilty as charged.)

Anyway, kudos on the HuCards. I'll ask Rover about that story sometime. Don't want to bug him too much so he can finish up MSR.

If you guys get serious about doing some reproductions and you need a professional writer or editor, you know where to find me. Always glad to help.

[alexsduo]

I bet someone bought up ze copyrights and trademarks, Dr. Jones.  You can be sure, there will be hell to pay if they find out someone in the US is printing games, boxes and or manuals...

[SignOfZeta]

I bet someone bought up ze copyrights and trademarks, Dr. Jones.  You can be sure, there will be hell to pay if they find out someone in the US is printing games, boxes and or manuals...

If something were limited to 300 copes and was sold only privately, and sold out instantly, nobody would give a shit. Even if they did, there would be no time to respond.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Arkhan, you're hilarious. Yes I DO kinda catch a whiff of ego every time I talk to Cobb. I can't blame him too much. I love screaming up and down how I started MAGFest now that it's getting really big. (Ego? guilty as charged.)

Ego is fine when you do something useful. You deserve to wave your weener around about it a little.

Cobb's ego is built off incorrect, asinine claims. His entire core is built around acquiring the rights to someone else's work.  I'm thrilled he's publishing Sega games, but it isn't like he's doing something ground breaking.  Pier Solar proves you don't need his toolbaggery to make a Sega game.   The NES, Atari, Coleco, MSX, Spectrum and C64 markets prove you don't need him to produce anything really.  Knight n Grail for C64 is sex.  Cobb had nothing to do with it.

and then there's the PCE.  We don't need anyone.  We can produce this shit from our living rooms and basements! \o/

He's a salesman, and his site screams that left and right.  Is it really necessary to put a quote from yourself at the top of a page?  No.  It's not.  Stop being a shmuck.

The people who should be flailing around bragging and waving their purple headed yogurt slingers around are all the developers.  All the idea people.  All the people who are actually doing work outside of publishing it.  If I had someone else produce Insanity, and they proceeded to weave a Cobbweb of lies and filth about it, I'd hit them with my car.

"WERE PROUD TO PRESENT A FIRST IN HOMEBREW: PCE CD GAMES" (what about meteor blaster and Implode?!)

etc. etc.

The people who MADE the games deserve more credit and attention than Cobbweb gives them.  He should be verbally blowing them for even completing work for him to publish and slap his goony looking logo all over.  I'd like to break that chicks fingers off of my Wukong box.  She's a wannabe Chun-Li.  Get off my clamshell, skankbag.