PCE shooters have lost their magic for me...

[nectarsis]

Are there any shooters on the PCE that the AI improves the better you do (points, power ups, no deaths etc)?  I know Battle Garegga and Layer Section do this. 

X.E.V.I.O.U.S does.

What MORE sheets of drywall, and doughnuts??   DENY X.E.V.I.O.U.S ;)

[Tatsujin]

What MORE sheets of drywall, and doughnuts??   DENY X.E.V.I.O.U.S ;)

You never can have nuff of teh doughnuts

[dq333]

Is it me or has this topic brought out the magic in shooters that gamers love.  Man, OK... ahem I've had a few who wants to do a top ten shooters of all time list?  it will be our secret.

[spenoza]

Of all time? Not just PCE?

I can betcha a lot of us will have very different-looking lists.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Top 10 of all time?
------------------
Tempest
Defender
Starship Hector
Final Soldier
Psychosis
this is hard fuck it

[OldRover]

I hate sports games because you have to do sports.  Sports are stupid and I don't like them because sport culture is wrong.

^^^ this.

Oh, and I love bullet hell shooters, especially the really manic ones.

[Tatsujin]

R-Type
GoT
WoT
Spriggan
Axelay
Mahou Daisakusen
Gradius II
Donpachi
Viper Phase 1
Nexzr
Gradius Gaiden
etc
etc

[Tatsujin]

I hate sports games because you have to do sports.  Sports are stupid and I don't like them because sport culture is wrong.

^^^ this.

Oh, and I love bullet hell shooters, especially the really manic ones.

I generally agree, but we have define which kind of sports we're talking about. there is wrong and boring sports and there is right and funny sports (and some stuff between the both).

wrong stuff -> boring team stuff 'n' shit
right stuff -> alone fighter stuff

[OldRover]

I'd love a sports game based entirely on judo. That'd bore the shit outta most people I guess, but fuck that, I love judo.

[Tatsujin]

I'd love a sports game based entirely on judo. That'd bore the shit outta most people I guess, but fuck that, I love judo.

Try Yawara 2 then ;)

The first Yawara! game was a digital comic; this one has more game elements, as we can play a quiz game, or participate in a slow-moving, serious round of judo:

[spenoza]

In no particular order, some of my favorites are:

Raiden
Raiden II
Blazing Lazers/Gunhed
Gate of Thunder
Rayforce/Gunlock/Layer Section/Galactic Attack
Gradius Gaiden
Thunderforce V
Sokyugurentai/Terra Diver

And I'm gonna have to agree with Arkhan, here.

this is hard fuck it

Did manage to come up with a couple more...

[dq333]

Yes it is fuck hard.... blame the drink.

1. Layer Section
2. Radiant Silvergun
3. Battle Garegga
4. R-Type
5. Gunhed
6. Blazing Star
7. Gradius V
8. Super Star Soldier
9. Soldier Blade
10. Rtype III

Wait there's more and this list isnt accurate......

I've been playing Violent Soldier and it's dope!

[SamIAm]

This is just my personal list:
1. Radiant Silvergun
2. Battle Garegga
3. Super Aleste
4. Lords of Thunder
5. Ketsui
6. Blazing Star
7. Cotton 2
8. Soldier Blade
9. Armed Police Batrider
10. Zeroigar!!

[Starfighter]

Armed Police Batrider is sweet! Super Aleste would be on my list if it didn't have so long and boring levels.

My list looks like this, starting from the 10th place going up:


10. Over Horizon
9. Mars Matrix
8. Giga Wing
7. Zero Gunner 2
6. Trigger Heart Exelica
5. Dodonpachi
4. ESP. Ra. De.
3. Mushihimesama
2. Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate
1. Espgaluda

[bust3dstr8]

#1 The Raiden Fighters series.  Pick one....any one. 

The Rest....

Thunderforce III
Tatsujin Oh
19XX
Blazing Star
Gunhed
Galaga
Giga Wang
Gunbird 2
Einhander

[Starfighter]

#1 The Raiden Fighters series.  Pick one....any one. 

Dude, you have no idea how long I've been waiting for the 360-port! (Raiden Fighters Aces) I made a reservation for the european version that was supposed to come out shortly after the american one back in 2009... It's still "TBA".

[Tatsujin]

Not listing GoT is considered a crime

[Starfighter]

Lot's of things I do are considered crimes. ;)

[Arkhan Asylum]

Does Insanity count as a shooter?  I pick that.

[Starfighter]

Does Insanity count as a shooter?  I pick that.

I picked up Insanity X on XBLA last week or something. It was very addicting!

[Arkhan Asylum]

Does Insanity count as a shooter?  I pick that.

I picked up Insanity X on XBLA last week or something. It was very addicting!

DUDE!!! \o/  5 star it so i get fucking ratings. 

Noone can see the game unless its like 4 stars or better.  Push me past the 3.5 mark GOGOGOGO!

they jacked the menu up so most people sort by most downloaded, or highest ratings.

They should just randomly put 10 games on the main screen and go hey get this.

[Obfuscate]

Yeah, Top 10!

1.) Soldier Blade
2.) Lords of Thunder
3.) Gate of Thunder
4.) Thunder Force 3
5.) Nexzr
6.) Cotton
7.) Rayxanber 2
8.) Sapphire
9.) Spriggan
10.) Air Zonk

Hmm.. I must have a bias! Also, M.U.S.H.A I actually don't like and Axeley is good but doesn't make my top 10. Don't have any experiance with Saturn shooters and dislike PS1 shooters for the most part. PC Engine and 16 bit shooter era games are my favorite by far.

[Starfighter]

DUDE!!! \o/  5 star it so i get fucking ratings.

Done. Or at least I think so. I had the choise to rise the stars to five, but then I didn't get a "confirm-button" or anything like that so I'm not sure it was registered.

[Tatsujin]

Lot's of things I do are considered crimes. ;)

But there are good "even necessary" crimes and morally bad crimes. this goes under the latter.

[Arkhan Asylum]

DUDE!!! \o/  5 star it so i get fucking ratings.

Done. Or at least I think so. I had the choise to rise the stars to five, but then I didn't get a "confirm-button" or anything like that so I'm not sure it was registered.

yeah, I noticed that too. I think it just confirms it when you stop touching it, lol.  I hope.

[Arkhan Asylum]

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Insanity-X/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025855088f?cid=SLink  you can also sign in here,and rate it instead.

[majors]

Thread explode!

when i got my daioujou, i've first thougt this must be a joke.

True. When I played the Saturn DonPachi for the first time, my jaw dropped. When I played the 2nd go-round (after beating it), I had to call the dentist.

But then they fuck it up by making the player character a pair of talking tits, more or less.

Muchi Muchi Pork much?

Only logic can be applied to games where there are flying tits and lazers.

Tits and lasers, oh my! Sign me up!

Are there any shooters on the PCE that the AI improves the better you do (points, power ups, no deaths etc)? 

Paodious will give you a differnet stage boss if your doing better (at least on the challenge mode). Sex Parodius have alternate next levels when you achive the current stage goals, but that's not on PCE.

[Starfighter]

But then they fuck it up by making the player character a pair of talking tits, more or less.

Muchi Muchi Pork much?

I haven't played Muchi Muchi Pork but I remember feeling very much attracted to the artwork.

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Insanity-X/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025855088f?cid=SLink  you can also sign in here,and rate it instead.

Yeah, now it's done. It said "Saved!" and sang me a song and sent rainbows.

[majors]

Oh, top X lists!:

TG/PCE
1. Parodius
2. Spriggan
3. Final Soldier Blade (tie)
4. Blazing Lasers
5. Magical Chase
6. [Every other shooter for Turbo, even Deep Blue] <- true OBEY statement
(this is tough)

All
1. Raiden Fighters 2
2. Sexy Parodius
3. Thunderforce 3 and 5
4. Ikaruga
5. Mushihime Sama Futari
6. Gradius V
7. Galactic Attack
8. MUSHA
9. Super Cobra (remember your roots, son!)
10. R-type / Sidearms (tie)

[dq333]

OK how about best ship design.

If you got pictures, show 'em!


The RVA-818 X-LAY

[Starfighter]

My favorite shmup "vehicle" (not all are ships like we are about to be reminded of) is hands down Kiniro. The bug you ride on in Mushihimesama.



Close runner-up is Opa Opa.


https://sega.fandom.com/wiki/Opa-Opa

[_Paul]

R-9 is a classic

[CrackTiger]

Opa Opa is one of the greatest game characters of all time.

The original R-Type ship (r9?) is one of my favs, along with the red Darius ship (Procco?).

The valkyries from Macross are as epic as it gets. Any game that lets you play as skull leader would br one of my favorite.

The player 1 Sidearms mecha.

[dq333]

Ha, those are dope Starfighter

The RVA-818 X-LAY from Layer Section Below

[dq333]

Taken from slateman.net rtype website; hope he doesn't mind

[Tatsujin]

R-9 and vic viper are teh best ever!

[spenoza]

R-9 and vic viper are teh best ever!

They are certainly the most iconic, though I think my own preference is for the Fire Leo.

[Nando]

Surely homebrew scene magick can be done on teh 'ol bob.

[esteban]

Exquisite ship design:

[TurboXray]

Surely homebrew scene magick can be done on teh 'ol bob.

Misleading title in the video. Says NES, but it's just a PC app.

[dq333]

Esteban, what the hell is the name of that game?

[Starfighter]

dq333: Both pictures have the title in the filename. It's Hany in the sky.

[dq333]

dq333: Both pictures have the title in the filename. It's Hany in the sky.

Noiiicee!

[esteban]

dq333: Both pictures have the title in the filename. It's Hany in the sky.

Noiiicee!

Indeed, comrade, it is very nice.

[FraGMarE]

How's this for hori ship design?  I just made it for a bit of fun. 


Lost: mindrec.com/hori_ship09.gif

[esteban]

How's this for hori ship design?  I just made it for a bit of fun. 

Gorgeous. You just need more curly-cue clouds.

[spenoza]

How's this for hori ship design?  I just made it for a bit of fun. 

Very nice, but where are the guns? Does the pilot just shoot through the cockpit?

[Nando]

Misleading title in the video. Says NES, but it's just a PC app.

Agreed, but it's not a bad "template" or something to get inspiration from. I think shmup's on the pc-e can still grow and innovate.