Magical Chase - Reprint

magicthrow · 09/17/2006, 05:53 AM

One place selling it online says its a reprint version. What exactly does that mean?
I have the original version, which one one would you say is more collectable?

Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/18/2006, 08:50 PMPC Engine Fan 5th Anniversary "Fan Edition" Release (The case is white and different back cover):

esteban · 09/17/2006, 10:51 AM

There was / is no reprint version. No reputable dealer / seller would advertise an item in this manner, so I would not purchase any items from this individual.

The North American version goes for crazy amounts of $$$ on ebay and private sales/trades. It is the holy grail for U.S. HuCards, apparently (Dynastic Hero for SCDs). The Japanese Magical Chase HuCard is not nearly as expensive / difficult to find, but it is still a desirable PCE title (IMO, anyway).

The precise rarity of Magical Chase is undetermined (and up for debate), but most folks agree that the production numbers were relatively "low" (several of TTi's releases fall into this category).

magicthrow · 09/17/2006, 02:48 PM

Thanks for that, mines the jap one, i didn't realise the US one was worth more.

akamichi · 09/17/2006, 02:51 PM

If you're talking about the Japanese version, there was a reprint for the 5th anniversary of one of the PCE mags. AFAIK, there's nothing different about the game itself.

The original release came in a standard (old) HuCard case, while the reprinted version came in the new clear CD style HuCard case. There's also some text about the 5th Anniversary printed somewhere on the case or on the card... don't remember exactly.

Neither of the versions is worth any more than the other.

Now, if you're talking about the US version, then you might want to follow stevek666's advice.

Seldane · 09/17/2006, 02:56 PM

The reprint cover picture has a "frame" of sorts. The original release has a full cover picture. I think.

esteban · 09/17/2006, 05:26 PM

Quote from: "akamichi"If you're talking about the Japanese version, there was a reprint for the 5th anniversary of one of the PCE mags. AFAIK, there's nothing different about the game itself.

The original release came in a standard (old) HuCard case, while the reprinted version came in the new clear CD style HuCard case. There's also some text about the 5th Anniversary printed somewhere on the case or on the card... don't remember exactly.

Neither of the versions is worth any more than the other.

Now, if you're talking about the US version, then you might want to follow stevek666's advice.

Kool, I didn't know about the Japanese reprint!

I stand corrected

Tatsujin · 09/18/2006, 08:50 PM

Regular Release:

PC Engine Fan 5th Anniversary "Fan Edition" Release (The case is white and different back cover):

Keranu · 09/18/2006, 11:43 PM

Does that anniversary one cost even more?

Tatsujin · 09/18/2006, 11:59 PM

even may it is a little bit more rare to find, the price in japan is almost equal to the regular release, between 10'000~13'000 yen.

Keranu · 09/19/2006, 04:00 AM

Ahh, gotcha.

EDIT: While we are on the topic, does anyone know why they changed the first level graphics, or any other graphics and other changes, in the USA release? I can't say which level 1 I like better between the USA and Japanese version, they both look awesome in their own ways. I'm leaning a little towards the Japanese one with the cute blocks.

Tatsujin · 09/19/2006, 05:09 AM

btw: what did they change? never played the TG version

Bt Garner · 09/19/2006, 09:13 AM

Quote from: Tatsujinbtw: what did they change? never played the TG version

In the US version the colorful blocks that make the lower bridge in Level 1 are replaced with a more realistic looking bridge. Several enemy sprites are different as well.

-bt

CrackTiger · 09/19/2006, 03:20 PM

The foreground and the mid background of the first stage were changed from colored bricks to a nice detailed castle wall, which I beleive better suits the background/sky and just plain looks better overall.

The third level's moving wooden floor and ceiling are brownish in the PCE version and not very detailed compared to the red floor/ceiling in the Turbo version which has been nicely shaded.

Jack's shop is a simple straight side view of a balloon in the PCE version, but in the Turbo version the balloon part is a 3/4 perspective of a nicely drawn and shaded jack o lantern and the rest of it is upgraded as well.

There are lots of other details that appeared to be changed as well, but I haven'y confirmed yet. I'm part way through making a comparison feature with screenshots and a few short side by side videos.

Keranu · 09/19/2006, 06:15 PM

Quote from: guest
Quote from: Tatsujinbtw: what did they change? never played the TG version
The foreground and the mid background of the first stage were changed from colored bricks to a nice detailed castle wall, which I believe better suits the background/sky and just plain looks better overall.

The third level's moving wooden floor and ceiling are brownish in the PCE version and not very detailed compared to the red floor/ceiling in the Turbo version which has been nicely shaded.

Jack's shop is a simple straight side view of a balloon in the PCE version, but in the Turbo version the balloon part is a 3/4 perspective of a nicely drawn and shaded jack o lantern and the rest of it is upgraded as well.

There are lots of other details that appeared to be changed as well, but I haven'y confirmed yet. I'm part way through making a comparison feature with screenshots and a few short side by side videos.

That should come in a lot of handy, CrackTiger. Just what I was looking for.

Tatsujin · 09/19/2006, 08:01 PM

thx a lot bros. may some one have some nice comparison pix ready?

esteban · 09/19/2006, 10:01 PM

Quote from: guestThe foreground and the mid background of the first stage were changed from colored bricks to a nice detailed castle wall, which I beleive better suits the background/sky and just plain looks better overall.

The third level's moving wooden floor and ceiling are brownish in the PCE version and not very detailed compared to the red floor/ceiling in the Turbo version which has been nicely shaded.

Jack's shop is a simple straight side view of a balloon in the PCE version, but in the Turbo version the balloon part is a 3/4 perspective of a nicely drawn and shaded jack o lantern and the rest of it is upgraded as well.

There are lots of other details that appeared to be changed as well, but I haven'y confirmed yet. I'm part way through making a comparison feature with screenshots and a few short side by side videos.

You rule CrackTiger!

Can't wait to see your stuff.

Tatsujin · 09/19/2006, 11:00 PM

oh yes. thank you CrackTiger. can't just wait to see the differences!
btw: does anybody know, who exactly made those grafx-modifications?

Keranu · 09/19/2006, 11:20 PM

Quote from: "Tatsujin"btw: does anybody know, who exactly made those grafx-modifications?

That's another thing I was wanting to know. It's very interesting they made such a big, but no-so-important graphic changes to begin with. Do you think they actually got American artists to do the new graphics?

CrackTiger · 09/19/2006, 11:52 PM

Quote from: "Keranu"
Quote from: "Tatsujin"btw: does anybody know, who exactly made those grafx-modifications?
That's another thing I was wanting to know. It's very interesting they made such a big, but no-so-important graphic changes to begin with. Do you think they actually got American artists to do the new graphics?

One other major change I forgot to mention is the logo at the title screen. Its plain and only a few colors in the PCE version, but 3D'ish and nicely shaded in the Turbo version. Also, the new mid-background in Stage 1 of the Turbo version reveals more of the back-background wich now adds several more colors to the gradient.

Anyways, I think that, for whatever reason, Quest made all the changes.

The U.S. version doesn't say TTI anywhere, it just went from Copyright Palsoft, Copyright Quest to only Quest.

The new art itself in the first level and the new Shop is amazing. Then it was transformed into Turbo/PCE graphics as well as the rest of the game was put together.

And who else but Quest would have the motivation to do this to an already perfect game?

Maybe they were forced to send out the PCE version before they got it to where they wanted it and they kept working on it.

Its still weird that the reprint didn't get the upgrades. Or maybe it did and the PCE rom everyone is using is from the originator. Does anyone have the reprint that they can fire up to see if it's at least color bricked or medeival castled?

Tatsujin · 09/20/2006, 12:05 AM

Quote from: guest
Quote from: Keranu
Quote from: Tatsujinbtw: does anybody know, who exactly made those grafx-modifications?
That's another thing I was wanting to know. It's very interesting they made such a big, but no-so-important graphic changes to begin with. Do you think they actually got American artists to do the new graphics?
One other major change I forgot to mention is the logo at the title screen. Its plain and only a few colors in the PCE version, but 3D'ish and nicely shaded in the Turbo version. Also, the new mid-background in Stage 1 of the Turbo version reveals more of the back-background wich now adds several more colors to the gradient.

Anyways, I think that, for whatever reason, Quest made all the changes.

The U.S. version doesn't say TTI anywhere, it just went from Copyright Palsoft, Copyright Quest to only Quest.

The new art itself in the first level and the new Shop is amazing. Then it was transformed into Turbo/PCE graphics as well as the rest of the game was put together.

And who else but Quest would have the motivation to do this to an already perfect game?

Maybe they were forced to send out the PCE version before they got it to where they wanted it and they kept working on it.

Its still weird that the reprint didn't get the upgrades. Or maybe it did and the PCE rom everyone is using is from the originator. Does anyone have the reprint that they can fire up to see if it's at least color bricked or medeival castled?

same thought here! unfortunatelly i don't own the reprint, since i didn't give it so much attention to must have it! but in this case, i should rethink about a purchase may be

Keranu · 09/20/2006, 12:29 AM

Tatsujin, you should rethink about purchasing it and then send it to me. ;)

CrackTiger · 09/20/2006, 12:41 AM

Quote from: "Keranu"Tatsujin, you should rethink about purchasing it and then send it to me. ;)

Since you mentioned it Keranu, I've rethought my PC Engine LT purchase and will now have it sent directly to you.

Keranu · 09/20/2006, 04:18 AM

Quote from: guest
Quote from: KeranuTatsujin, you should rethink about purchasing it and then send it to me. ;)
Since you mentioned it Keranu, I've rethought my PC Engine LT purchase and will now have it sent directly to you.

Excellent, now cover it with copies of Sylphia and Sapphire and things will be really cool.

TOAST!