Nice set up

[_Paul]

http://cheezburger.com/6233520384


But the lack of CRT diminishes it a little.

[SuperDeadite]

All that fancy lighting and the owner can't afford a decent TV?

[Tatsujin]

lol, I already knew it must be that pic when reading the title

the only nice thing is its arrangenment/presentation. rest isn't really impressive at all. we know we can do much better..hehe.

[roflmao]

That is a pretty cool setup.  He must have one huge rats nest of wires behind those shelves.  At any given time I usually have 6 or 7 devices running into my TV and it's a nightmare of wires.

[Nando]

lol, I already knew it must be that pic when reading the title

the only nice thing is its arrangenment/presentation. rest isn't really impressive at all. we know we can do much better..hehe.

Apparently it went viral yesterday. It is very slick looking for sure and simple. I doubt each console is connected though. Maybe.

[munchiaz]

yeah lack of CRT is lame. My setup is currently 8 systems hooked up to my CRT and the wires are crazy

[Nando]

yeah lack of CRT is lame. My setup is currently 8 systems hooked up to my CRT and the wires are crazy

do you go into a receiver to switch the signal or to the back of the TV?

[munchiaz]

yeah lack of CRT is lame. My setup is currently 8 systems hooked up to my CRT and the wires are crazy

do you go into a receiver to switch the signal or to the back of the TV?

i have one of those AV switchers to connect multiple systems. then that goes into the TV

[futureman2000]

Also lots of redundant consoles

[thesteve]

not all flat panel displays are fail (just most)

[guyjin]

not all flat panel displays are fail (just most)

Some suck less than others, but all will alter the image in some way.

[Tatsujin]

if he has a frame meister or XRGB-3, then it might be an OK setup with TFT what ever.

[SMF]

That's a nice set up, But not for me. Give me a few systems and I'm good.

[Frank_fjs]

Man this did go viral.

There's a video of the room here:

[SuperDeadite]

Watched 10 seconds of the video.  No RGB, admits to using composite, and that screen's lack of scan lines is disgusting.  Also even worse he has an SNES in there.  SNES makes everything so ugly it's unreal.  Ask any attractive girl to hold an SNES and you'll see her melt into the wicked witch of mooseland faster then tats can say "System card me."

[Mathius]

Watched 10 seconds of the video.  No RGB, admits to using composite, and that screen's lack of scan lines is disgusting.  Also even worse he has an SNES in there.  SNES makes everything so ugly it's unreal.  Ask any attractive girl to hold an SNES and you'll see her melt into the wicked witch of mooseland faster then tats can say "System card me."

There's a SNES in the pic at least. Second row, far right.

[TheClash603]

My setup involves multiple A/V switches (never modded my systems for RGB, need to keep it authentic) and a CRT TV.

I might not have as good of a shelving setup, but at least I am in 4:3.

[munchiaz]

yeah his shelves are nice, but the lack of a CRT just throws me for a loop. He states he loves the 16-bit era, you would think a CRT would be a must

[lwizardl]

He does have a CRT display in that room, it is behind the couch and has another 6 systems connected to it. As one user posted on here his Youtube username is 16BitGhost and he had a great idea of the system cabinet. Weird that it took this long to go viral which is sad. Great youtube and gamer if you have never chatted with him before.

[Ji-L87]

It's a pretty cool setup, but there's a bit too much displaying going on. Boxes and stuff like that take a lot of place, without being of much use. I'm not saying he should dispose of them, but maybe keep them somewhere else. Other than that, it seems pretty sweet. That couch, if a bit bloat-ish, looks comfy and the "mame-table"-thing behind it is a cool touch.

As for the LCD-TV, I was content with the picture I got from mine before I got a PCE and my TV couldn't really handle it. Saturn & PS1 fared pretty well on it. And let's not forget about how much space a CRT takes and how much they weigh. But seeing how much money he must've thrown down for that, maybe he could do well to invest in a scaler.

Edit: Wow, just hit 200 posts. I know that post count really doesn't matter much, but, can't help to be proud *sniff*

[Samurai Ghost]

Yeah this guy has a great set up and a respectable collection (he has a complete JP Saturn library) with some cool custom machines, but the way he drones on about game collecting made his videos irritating for some reason..

[soop]

You don't "need" a CRT to play all those consoles.  I own a CRT, but I only ever use it or lightgun games, everything else is plugged into the plasma - and nothing is modded at the moment, it all uses its best native output (apart from the Dreamcast)

[Nando]

As for the LCD-TV, I was content with the picture I got from mine before I got a PCE and my TV couldn't really handle it.

what do you mean?

[SuperDeadite]

It's a pretty cool setup, but there's a bit too much displaying going on. Boxes and stuff like that take a lot of place, without being of much use. I'm not saying he should dispose of them, but maybe keep them somewhere else. Other than that, it seems pretty sweet. That couch, if a bit bloat-ish, looks comfy and the "mame-table"-thing behind it is a cool touch.

As for the LCD-TV, I was content with the picture I got from mine before I got a PCE and my TV couldn't really handle it. Saturn & PS1 fared pretty well on it. And let's not forget about how much space a CRT takes and how much they weigh. But seeing how much money he must've thrown down for that, maybe he could do well to invest in a scaler.

Edit: Wow, just hit 200 posts. I know that post count really doesn't matter much, but, can't help to be proud *sniff*

Here's the thing though.   If you can afford a 46'' tv, all those shelves and lights, and all those games.  I think you can afford a decent scaler and a small pile of RGB cables to plug into it.

[turbokon]

Just found an inspiration on my next project!!

[Samurai Ghost]

It's a pretty cool setup, but there's a bit too much displaying going on. Boxes and stuff like that take a lot of place, without being of much use. I'm not saying he should dispose of them, but maybe keep them somewhere else. Other than that, it seems pretty sweet. That couch, if a bit bloat-ish, looks comfy and the "mame-table"-thing behind it is a cool touch.

As for the LCD-TV, I was content with the picture I got from mine before I got a PCE and my TV couldn't really handle it. Saturn & PS1 fared pretty well on it. And let's not forget about how much space a CRT takes and how much they weigh. But seeing how much money he must've thrown down for that, maybe he could do well to invest in a scaler.

Edit: Wow, just hit 200 posts. I know that post count really doesn't matter much, but, can't help to be proud *sniff*

Here's the thing though.   If you can afford a 46'' tv, all those shelves and lights, and all those games.  I think you can afford a decent scaler and a small pile of RGB cables to plug into it.

Yeah if you watch his vids (I think his YouTube account is 16 bit Ghost) he mods a lot of his consoles to RGB or the best video output it can handle.

[SignOfZeta]

This set-up sucks. The TV is so fucking high up in the air I'd get a neck ache actually playing games...assuming I didn't puke first from the horror that is LCD via composite...that must look so fucking horrible. All those fucking PS2s and he can't afford an upscaler?

This post pretty much has all the bad stuff and little of the good that goes along with modern collecting. Its all about hoarding the most LIMITEDOMGR@RE quantities of shit a person can find and focuses much less on the actual software (i.e.the data on the cart, not the plastic its in) and the actual playing of games in non-Youtube situations.

While I like his Char's Gamecube, I'd much rather have my setup.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I like how dipshits like this can go viral, without having any goddamn clue.

[tggodfrey]

I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares. 

its not that.

its that the media suddenly makes a scene about setups like this, when its fuckin normal and been done for the past like 20 years by the rest of us

[Samurai Ghost]

I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares. 

its not that.

its that the media suddenly makes a scene about setups like this, when its fuckin normal and been done for the past like 20 years by the rest of us

Yeah it is annoying when shit like this goes viral. But just remember that the people who send this shit around are the same people who still send chain emails, virus warnings, and forward you pictures of bunnies paired with bible quotes.

[kamiboy]

That is rather sleek but I hate having more than one or two consoles out at a time. When I am done with a game I usually move to another system and meticulously pack the previous one up and put it away in the old closet until the day its services are once again required.

Especially since I try to buy every old system new and mint I feel when left outside they somehow age faster.

They do for a fact collect dust faster and in case of certain consoles, like the much cursed ugly form of the SNES, the plastic yellows faster if exposed to light.

My current setup has two top of the line CRT's unceremoniously put upon the ground with a pair of chest high tower speakers erected like marble pillars to their sides so I can fully enjoy the sights and sounds of the good old genenations.

What my setup lacks in elegance it more than makes up for in raw fidelity.

[roflmao]

Lol.  I airbrushed my SNES really gaudy colors to ensure it'd be worthless to anyone else so I'd never be tempted to sell it. 

[Arkhan Asylum]

They do for a fact collect dust faster and in case of certain consoles, like the much cursed ugly form of the SNES, the plastic yellows faster if exposed to light.

Sunlight.  Not all light.

and, who cares if the plastic is in pristine condition.  Its plastic.  Its rugged.  The insides are what is important.

[Sparky]

Ask any attractive girl to.....

woah...who are you kidding you have to pay to get close to an attractive girl.

The lighted shelving does look good though, the average person looking at this would be in awwwww but there are a lot of other setups i have seen that look just as good or better.

[kamiboy]

Sunlight.  Not all light.

and, who cares if the plastic is in pristine condition.  Its plastic.  Its rugged.  The insides are what is important.

I care. I am shallow.

[Joe Redifer]

The SNES turned yellow when exposed to air, not light.  The chemicals in the plastic oxidize.  If it were sunlight, the damage would not be so uniform and consistent throughout the entire piece of plastic.  My SNES never left my basement and the bottom of it (and only the bottom) turned yellow.  I, of course, swapped that out with a good bottom from my friend's old unit that he gave to me which lived upstairs in his house, exposed to sunlight.  Not all plastics came from the same mix or likely even the same factory, thus the reason not all parts of the SNES or even all SNESes yellow.

[munchiaz]

yeah my SNES is not yellow at all, and its been out and been played for years and years

[tggodfrey]

I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares. 

its not that.

its that the media suddenly makes a scene about setups like this, when its fuckin normal and been done for the past like 20 years by the rest of us

I didnt really see a scene at all.

[PCEngineHell]

Personally I thought the guys setup was ok. Its a bit streamlined really and not traditional/old school looking though, so no real charm as it were. As far as using composite goes on his LCD, I cant say what kind of quality he gets, but I use it on mine for some things like Nes, and I used to use it for Pce back when I got my LCD originally, and it did fine. Actually, I really liked the way game stuff looked on it. Mine is a Toshiba though and I have the option to not stretch anything and my set is calibrated well. I stopped using crt tvs in my room, and stuck one in the living room for my daughter to use, and my son has the other one. Right now the only classic game system stuff I buy and play is Nes and Snes, and I wont be going back to a crt for them anytime soon.

Also like to point out, not much really wrong with using composite on TG/Pce, or Snes, or lets say something like Saturn, Ps1, 3DO, or Jaguar if you have to. Those systems had pretty solid quality composite output right from the start that wont hinder the enjoyment much. Now, if hes using composite on crap like Genesis where the composite signal was just shit, then that blows. The Genesis, NeoGeo AES, and Master Systems original composite is shity enough to actually full on warrant putting in extra effort to get RGB or Svideo out.

[Tatsujin]

I think its awesome.  If he is happy then who cares. 

its not that.

its that the media suddenly makes a scene about setups like this, when its fuckin normal and been done for the past like 20 years by the rest of us

lolfuckeay \o/

[Tatsujin]

The Genesis, NeoGeo AES, and Master Systems original composite is shity enough to actually full on warrant putting in extra effort to get RGB

why putting extra effort in these, when they putting out RGB natively?

[Frank_fjs]

The Genesis, NeoGeo AES, and Master Systems original composite is shity enough to actually full on warrant putting in extra effort to get RGB

why putting extra effort in these, when they putting out RGB natively?

Exactly.

I suppose a minimal amount of effort is required in that you need to grab a scart cable and have a TV that accepts an RGB scart input, or a component input and use an encoder, but the results are well worth it.

It goes deeper than the type of video connection though; yes some consoles do actually have a rather decent composite output (such as the SNES) yet it still looks like turd on a modern LCD TV.

[SignOfZeta]

The point is that the guy has like a dozen LE PS2s, a custom shelf with vanity lighting, and all sorts of bling blong dumb shit and he's using composite in an LCD. His priorities are all out of whack, gaming-wise.

And composite itself is not a huge problem if the display matches, but I have yet to see an LCD that produces a picture from a composite signal that is even half as good as what a early 90s Kmart TV would have produced over RF. Some people are evidently blind.

Recently I went to a guy's house to buy a used laserdisc player. This was a CLD D604, which is just middle of the road quality-wise. He wanted to re-collect his old setup from the 90s so he was done with this clunker and wanted a CLD97, which is a really really nice piece of gear. The problem was that when I demoed the unit before buying it on his massive-ass 60 LCD it looked like SHIIIIIIT. Now I know this player is middle of the road, makes some noise on reds I can't seem to tune out, but that wasn't the problem. %99 of the problem with the picture was with his set. It looks just fine on my CRT at home. There is so much of that pale foggy blurriness coming from his stupid-ass TV (which was not a cheap set as far as I could tell, a Pioneer) that I don't see how you could even tell the difference between a 604 and a 97. It would be like trying to figure out what brand of gun you were just shot with by how the bullet hole feels.

One of the discs I brought to test this unit before I bought it was Manhattan (1979). I chose this because there is a scene where a guy has a shirt with a fine checker print on it and it tends to produce a distractingly extreme Moiré effect for the time its on screen, maybe 30 seconds. When I played this on his set it was different than I was used to. The area around the guys jacket and tie didn't produce the effect at all (the checker pattern just turned to mud) but in the more open and unobscured areas it was massively pronounced to a comically horrible degree. Obviously my test was useless since the display was making the test of the output impossible to use.

But like I said, some people evidently just can't tell. Some people can't tell the difference between a BMW and a Buick either, and honestly for those people it really would be a waste of money to get the BMW or the X-RGB or whatever, I guess. If they can't see it, I can't show it to them, and probably they are better off. Having a hyper tuned aesthetic is more or a curse than a blessing most of the time.

[PCEngineHell]

The point is that the guy has like a dozen LE PS2s, a custom shelf with vanity lighting, and all sorts of bling blong dumb shit and he's using composite in an LCD. His priorities are all out of whack, gaming-wise.

And composite itself is not a huge problem if the display matches, but I have yet to see an LCD that produces a picture from a composite signal that is even half as good as what a early 90s Kmart TV would have produced over RF. Some people are evidently blind.

Recently I went to a guy's house to buy a used laserdisc player. This was a CLD D604, which is just middle of the road quality-wise. He wanted to re-collect his old setup from the 90s so he was done with this clunker and wanted a CLD97, which is a really really nice piece of gear. The problem was that when I demoed the unit before buying it on his massive-ass 60 LCD it looked like SHIIIIIIT. Now I know this player is middle of the road, makes some noise on reds I can't seem to tune out, but that wasn't the problem. %99 of the problem with the picture was with his set. It looks just fine on my CRT at home. There is so much of that pale foggy blurriness coming from his stupid-ass TV (which was not a cheap set as far as I could tell, a Pioneer) that I don't see how you could even tell the difference between a 604 and a 97. It would be like trying to figure out what brand of gun you were just shot with by how the bullet hole feels.

One of the discs I brought to test this unit before I bought it was Manhattan (1979). I chose this because there is a scene where a guy has a shirt with a fine checker print on it and it tends to produce a distractingly extreme Moiré effect for the time its on screen, maybe 30 seconds. When I played this on his set it was different than I was used to. The area around the guys jacket and tie didn't produce the effect at all (the checker pattern just turned to mud) but in the more open and unobscured areas it was massively pronounced to a comically horrible degree. Obviously my test was useless since the display was making the test of the output impossible to use.

But like I said, some people evidently just can't tell. Some people can't tell the difference between a BMW and a Buick either, and honestly for those people it really would be a waste of money to get the BMW or the X-RGB or whatever, I guess. If they can't see it, I can't show it to them, and probably they are better off. Having a hyper tuned aesthetic is more or a curse than a blessing most of the time.

Well yeah obviously LD, CED, and VCR tech is going to look like complete ass on a LCD without a good upscaler. Basically it presents a muddy blurry image half the time. Its just how the LCD handles that stuff. I ended up getting rid of all my LD stuff though anyway, as I had most of it on DVD. The VCR stuf is downstairs on a crt.

Game systems usually just look like they are running off a emulator without the scanlines if you have a solid LCD, and if your LCD has a good game mode then you can get a pretty good picture out of it. These pics are kinda old, as they were for auctions and I was trying to get the Nes deck and the TV both in the shot and only needed to show the system worked, but at any rate:




When I get time later I will take better shots from a correct angle, but seriously, I'm pretty happy with the image I get.

[Ji-L87]

Recently I went to a guy's house to buy a used laserdisc player. This was a CLD D604, which is just middle of the road quality-wise. He wanted to re-collect his old setup from the 90s so he was done with this clunker and wanted a CLD97, which is a really really nice piece of gear. The problem was that when I demoed the unit before buying it on his massive-ass 60 LCD it looked like SHIIIIIIT.

I hope he did at least run it in 4:3?
I recently read about using DVD recorders to pass through composite from the LD to the recorder's (presumably) superior comb filter before sending that signal to a scaler or similar.
I tried that route yesterday but that LG DVD recorder we have home must be pretty bad. Image got all kind of worse, not to mention de-centered and sort of rolled-over the top of the screen to the bottom. Weird.
/off-topic

Speaking of displaying, some images appear here and there but did we have a display thread of our own? All this talk makes me curious.

[PCEngineHell]

My digital cam isn't the best at taking these kind of pics, but anyway:

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[SignOfZeta]

I hope he did at least run it in 4:3?

When I was there it was running in a 16:9 zoom, which is perfect for Manhatten since the movie is wide as hell. I don't know if he normally runs Roy Vegas style or not.*

I recently read about using DVD recorders to pass through composite from the LD to the recorder's (presumably) superior comb filter before sending that signal to a scaler or similar.
I tried that route yesterday but that LG DVD recorder we have home must be pretty bad. Image got all kind of worse, not to mention de-centered and sort of rolled-over the top of the screen to the bottom. Weird.
/off-topic

Yeah, I was reading about that. I actually have at lest one brand new DVD recorder in the basement but I haven't tried it yet. My only LCD is set up for PS3 in the bedroom. My "SD Room" has a CRT in it with all the LDs and 16-bit and such.

Speaking of displaying, some images appear here and there but did we have a display thread of our own? All this talk makes me curious.

That's probably a good idea, but I'm not sure I'd put much stake in it. Still photos and screen captures can only say so much. Most of the stuff just has to be seen in person to really grasp it. If you have the space I really just don't see the point in trying to ram the square peg into the round hole. There are literally a half dozen 32" Wega's for sale on Craig's List in my area for less than $75 every single day. There was even a wide one last week that was actually FREE (!) but I couldn't find a strong friend fast enough to go get it. The fucker is 240 lbs and everyone I know is quite physically weak.

Mike's shots here look pretty good, considering there are no scan lines. I'm pretty sure I'd get tired of it eventually though. I'd much rather play on an emulator.

* Ha ha! Gotcha Roy. Your crimes against 4:3 video games will not be forgotten. I'll take it to The Hague if I have to, ya fuck.

[Ji-L87]

There was even a wide one last week that was actually FREE (!) but I couldn't find a strong friend fast enough to go get it. The fucker is 240 lbs and everyone I know is quite physically weak.

Hm...I'd think twice about that. I have a 32'' Wega wide that I want to get rid off, because it's doing a sub-par job with it's 4:3. It's squishing the edges of the picture ever so slightly (really noticeable with horizontal scrolling) and 16:9 looks brighter and more colorful. It's actually a noticeable difference when you change aspect ratio.

[SignOfZeta]

Is there anything in the service menu that might fix that? The thing's pretty old now, its going to have some drift.