Ouya game console?

[Nando]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console

interesting, can't wait too see the .emu's 

[Tatsujin]

crap

[soop]

crap

They want a MILLION dollars to produce something that will be around the same price as a second hand Xbox 360, and that does about the same thing, but doesn't have any games yet.  Oh where did I put my wallet?

*edit* if this succeeds, we should start a kickstarter to buy Hudson back from Konami.

[NecroPhile]

A console for Angry Birds?  Genius!

[JoshTurboTrollX]

Well, it's an android- so doesn't it technically already have whatever games are made for that?

And also, it's at $500,000?  wtf?

[PikachuWarrior]

I'm going to pledge the highest amount and then a day before it ends, cancel the pledge.

[SignOfZeta]

crap

They want a MILLION dollars to produce something that will be around the same price as a second hand Xbox 360, and that does about the same thing, but doesn't have any games yet.  Oh where did I put my wallet?

*edit* if this succeeds, we should start a kickstarter to buy Hudson back from Konami.

You do realize, right, that the 360 cost several BILLION dollars (ie: several thousand times as much) to produce, right?

[Nando]

Well, it's an android- so doesn't it technically already have whatever games are made for that?

And also, it's at $500,000?  wtf?

That's what I was thinking.

Still, plenty of phones out there with hdmi out and bluetooth compatibility. Maybe they were stoned when they thought it up....I dunno.

[NecroPhile]

I'm going to pledge the highest amount and then a day before it ends, cancel the pledge.

Don't forget to follow up that class act up with some auto-erotic asphyxiation.

[Opethian]

I have always wanted to play touch screen games on my HDTV, Brilliant!!!!!

[Nando]

so a bit more indepth on the bidness plan

http://kotaku.com/5924657/an-all+star-plan-to-build-a-new-99-hackable-video-game-console-requires-950000-of-your-money

[ParanoiaDragon]

I think that it's interesting that it's totally hackable, that could lead to maybe some PCE stuff on it eventually.  That might be cool, my Turbo CD has been having problems.  Hmm, maybe someone could even come up with a hucard port for it?  Also, unfortunately, I get the feeling that someday, phones will have games that are good, & can't be had anywhere else.  There's a market for it, I just don't want to play games on phones.  If everything resorts to that crap, atleast we may have a console to play these games on.  Heck, maybe we'll finally get new Falcom games playable on a console, rather then just on a portable.

[Lilgrafx]

Could be cool

[futureman2000]

Yep, this could be cool if it materializes

[Mathius]

This actually has me excited even though it has Android attached to it. If the they give me games that are controller-only (no motion controls, no touch screen) I may bite.

[futureman2000]

Wow, over 1mil already

[grimm]

This looks interesting.

[Nando]

I would make a virtual-on/bulk slash/vanquish like game using the unreal mobile engine.

[TheClash603]

I wonder if the faggots from the cover of Bomberman will finally get their own game on this system?

[roflmao]

I wonder if the faggots from the cover of Bomberman will finally get their own game on this system?

lol!

[Bernie]

I wonder if the faggots from the cover of Bomberman will finally get their own game on this system?

HA!!

[soop]

crap

They want a MILLION dollars to produce something that will be around the same price as a second hand Xbox 360, and that does about the same thing, but doesn't have any games yet.  Oh where did I put my wallet?

*edit* if this succeeds, we should start a kickstarter to buy Hudson back from Konami.

You do realize, right, that the 360 cost several BILLION dollars (ie: several thousand times as much) to produce, right?

Of course.  But why would you spend a million on something which is very similar to something that already exists and owns a huge market share?

It's like hey guys!!  I got an idea for a shiney disc film player!  I call it red ray, and you can down load film trailers for free OMG @___@ !!!1111  It's like  Blu Ray except you can make your own films!!!!

[termis]

I want to see the research & figures, not bunch of empty promises - The STP, NPV, etc.

Without it, I doubt it's going to attract anyone serious.

[Tatsujin]

right there. who's gonna raise up a lot of monies for something which in the end may only raise a stink?

[Nando]

right there. who's gonna raise up a lot of monies for something which in the end may only raise a stink?

20,968 BACKERS <--- apparently that many

$2,637,075 PLEDGED OF $950,000 GOAL

28 DAYS TO GO

[Ji-L87]

Well, seeing as it has an actual gamepad which seems sort of not horrible, I'm weirdly okay with this. The thing I dislike the most with these newfangled smartphone/tablet-games is the lack of a proper, dedicated controller or similar. This has that, thus this surely will be a better experience. Not best experience, but better.

If it also can do multimedia things on my TV then that would be cool too.

[Tatsujin]

as long it will have USB and some smart drivers can be installed, you will be able to use any pad you like.

[HercTNT]

It has potential. Take any android tablet though with hdmi out, plug in a usb gamepad, and do you not already have one of these?

[Nando]

It has potential. Take any android tablet though with hdmi out, plug in a usb gamepad, and do you not already have one of these?

The main difference is that the company is ready to give out an SDK with the machine from the day one, it's rooted in some cases, gotta check the pledge program again.

Technically one could invest 600 bucks and be ready to develop games for it. At least that's the main thing I can tell right now.

[soop]

Isn't the XNA framework free?  I mean not to actually produce the games, but to code them?

[OldRover]

Isn't the XNA framework free?  I mean not to actually produce the games, but to code them?

Yes. The difference is that you are bound to XNA if you're an indie; that means you're stuck with C#, the 2GB limitation, and unable to produce physical media. You are also limited in the amount of money you can charge for your game. With this, you're still essentially stuck with the Android SDK, which means java-like developing (which is close to C# anyway), but all the other restrictions are thrown away.

The main difference, for me, is going to be the machine's capabilities. If this can't compete, on a physical level, with the 360, there won't be any reason to jump ship. The 360 can do more than what I need, and I can certainly keep most productions under 2GB in size.

[Nando]

The main difference, for me, is going to be the machine's capabilities. If this can't compete, on a physical level, with the 360, there won't be any reason to jump ship.

Specs wise you mean?

It looks decent:
Tegra3 quad-core processor
1GB RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad
Android 4.0

and the Tegra chip is supposed to be able to do this?

[termis]

right there. who's gonna raise up a lot of monies for something which in the end may only raise a stink?

20,968 BACKERS <--- apparently that many

$2,637,075 PLEDGED OF $950,000 GOAL

28 DAYS TO GO

Right, $2.6M sounds like peanuts to me to so far... Hell multiply that figure by 100, and it still doesn't sound like that much TBH... But I still wouldn't know yet whether that's enough to make this venture a success... BECAUSE THERE ARE NO NUMBERS!

...Venture capitalists, Uhrman said, "are still scared away from hardware."

Yeah, no venture capatalist in their right mind would put up healthy amount of cash with just fluff which is what's posted there.  How sizable is the total market?  What are the different market segments?  Who are they targeting from this segment (need more much specifics than "console player")?  How much market share do they expect to achieve?  What's their action plan for that?  What are the the expected revenues?  Expected expenses?  Why do they need ~$1M to start-up, and how did they come up with that figure?  And on and on and on... and NONE of this is answered. 

Look, don't get me wrong.  I'd love to eat my words.  An open-source console platform sounds pretty rad, but I'm nowhere near convinced that this will be a success - hell, truth be told, it almost sounds more like a scam!

[soop]

It kind of does.

More to the point though, once all that is answered, who is down to develop for it.  It's one thing to say that one could code games, but you don't want to get into a chicken/egg situation where nobody's buying it because there's no games, and no-one is developing for it because no-one is buying it.

I mean look at the GP32.  Pretty much anologous, right?  Open sourced hardware that could run emulators and existing software.  Don't know the numbers, but I think it was pretty niche.

[OldRover]

Don't forget that in Gamepark's case, the original product was essentially squashed by Nintendo. Even after they fragmented, both sides still couldn't produce enough interest due to Nintendo's previous interference. This time, it's an upstart against all three... if all three bare fangs, it's gonna be bloody obvious that they all have something to lose.

Quite honestly, I hate wireless controllers. My 360 has wired controllers on purpose. Is this thing HDMI-only? That'd be dumb... not everyone has an HDMI-capable set yet... we're lucky we have one here (it was free). Aside from those details, I could see myself coding something for this... if it actually comes out. I was kinda psyched for OpenPandora, but that thing's been a trainwreck over the years and I lost all interest in it.

[Arkhan Asylum]

It's basically a fancy tablet in a box with a controller.

Fancy casing and stuff.

Sucks the dev thing is sold out, and cost 700$ in the first place.

If I am going to do Android, I can do it for less than 700$. 

I anticipate an armada of touchypoke flashlike games that I sit and play on my laptop while I'm crapping, or games that offer about as much depth as a kiddie pool.

There will be a handful of cool games, I am sure.

but I bet they show up elsewhere too... so this thing seems like an idea thats about 20 years too late.

[PikachuWarrior]

Not 20 years, more like 5 years too late. snap

[Arkhan Asylum]

Not 20 years, more like 5 years too late. snap

If they had a device like this at a time where there were no other viable options for independent game making aside from PCs, it would have killed.

20 may be a bit of a stretch, but its sure more than 5.

[Nando]

There will be a handful of cool games, I am sure.

but I bet they show up elsewhere too...

Well I thought that was the point. You can get the box and start playing right away, cause any dev could take their current android game and "port it" and one would also be able to do console specific stuff for the WOW factor. 

I would imagine they would have to have a couple of heavy hitters games/developers in their pockets with release games in order to make a dent.

[RegalSin]

Oh I know what their plan is. Get everybody riled up, on the internet, and then get inspired to build the perfect console.

[Nando]

...and then get inspired to build the perfect console.

start pce manufacturing again? Brilliant!

[ParanoiaDragon]

If someone can build a PCE cart port, & add a CD Rom via USB(though, preferably it'd be nice to have them as part of the console, rather then connected), maybe have SGX support, & possibly have the Arcade Card built in, not to mention being able to use original PCE pads, that would rock!  We could call it The Obey!   I wonder if it'd have to run on emulation, perhaps some variation of Mednafen for accuracy.  If the total price for all that is low enough, that might be worth it, as an alternative to people who can't afford a TG & the CD, or a Duo, etc.  Plus, it'd be nice to play all my games on it, to keep my Turbo's from getting the wear n' tear.

[soop]

If someone can build a PCE cart port, & add a CD Rom via USB(though, preferably it'd be nice to have them as part of the console, rather then connected), maybe have SGX support, & possibly have the Arcade Card built in, not to mention being able to use original PCE pads, that would rock!  We could call it The Obey!   I wonder if it'd have to run on emulation, perhaps some variation of Mednafen for accuracy.  If the total price for all that is low enough, that might be worth it, as an alternative to people who can't afford a TG & the CD, or a Duo, etc.  Plus, it'd be nice to play all my games on it, to keep my Turbo's from getting the wear n' tear.

Again, we need a PCE on a chip!

[Nando]

If someone can build a PCE cart port, & add a CD Rom via USB(though, preferably it'd be nice to have them as part of the console, rather then connected), maybe have SGX support, & possibly have the Arcade Card built in, not to mention being able to use original PCE pads, that would rock!  We could call it The Obey!   I wonder if it'd have to run on emulation, perhaps some variation of Mednafen for accuracy.  If the total price for all that is low enough, that might be worth it, as an alternative to people who can't afford a TG & the CD, or a Duo, etc.  Plus, it'd be nice to play all my games on it, to keep my Turbo's from getting the wear n' tear.

That would be pretty tight.

I like what is being done with PCE.emu by Robert Boglia. It's what I've been running on my phone for over a year now. Has all the features already built it. Worth every penny.

http://www.explusalpha.com/home/pce-emu

[tsuran]

This looks..... eh. Pretty much like the OnLive, and as far as I know, that didn't do too well. I was talking with a friend and reading up on it and there was a good point: this console is doing the moonwalk. Seeming to go forward, but actually going back. 

[thesteve]

the controller looked promising

[Nando]

DAYUM!

38,423
BACKERS

$4,903,704
PLEDGED OF $950,000 GOAL

23
DAYS TO GO

[Arkhan Asylum]

Watch them deliver a subpar product and wipe their asses with the profits as they fall off the grid, pockets full of $$, and blow.

[soop]

Watch them deliver a subpar product and wipe their asses with the profits as they fall off the grid, pockets full of $$, and blow.

This is actually going to happen.  Unless, miraculously, it gets to the point where it snowballs.  But 38,000 people is nowhere near enough consumers to back a world class product.  IMO.

I reckon you'd need more like a userbase of a million.  Is it worth developing (free) games for an installed userbase of 40,000 people?  Even if it's a port, you'd have to be awfully confident to spend time and money developing a game which 40,000 people *might* give you micropayments for.

[Nando]

Watch them deliver a subpar product and wipe their asses with the profits as they fall off the grid, pockets full of $$, and blow.

This is actually going to happen.  Unless, miraculously, it gets to the point where it snowballs.  But 38,000 people is nowhere near enough consumers to back a world class product.  IMO.

I reckon you'd need more like a userbase of a million.  Is it worth developing (free) games for an installed userbase of 40,000 people?  Even if it's a port, you'd have to be awfully confident to spend time and money developing a game which 40,000 people *might* give you micropayments for.

True dat, smart dev's would make an android game and maybe add Ouya controller support or something.

Scary that the same folks doing this were the one's doing the Phatom....yeah..