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Favorite Shooters?

Started by DragonmasterDan, 02/28/2005, 10:39 PM

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DragonmasterDan

What are everyones favorite shooters for the platform at the top of my list is Blazing Lazers/ Gunhead then Lords of Thunder, and Soldier Blade (which I prefer over Final Blade and Super Star Soldier). What does everyone else like?
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Keranu

It's tough to say what's the best exactly, so here are my favorites in no particular order:

Gates of Thunder, Lords of Thunder, Blazing Lazers, Star Parodia, Soldier Blade, Final Soldier (I actually find this one a little underrated), Psychic Storm, Psychosis, and many more!

To narrow it down to three, I'd say Star Parodia, Gates of Thunder, Lords of Thunder.
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In order for me :

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jlued686

Lords of Thunder, Gates of Thunder, Blazing Lazers, SideArms, R-Type, and I even enjoy a little Ordyne from time to time.  Cotton and Magical Chase are decent too.

D-Lite

Lords of Thunder and Blazing Lasers for me, no doubt.  I usually use those to test the mods I do and I end up playing about an hour a piece each time.

I have a soft spot for R-Type, but it's too damn hard.
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esteban

I love 'em all, but I'll list some KICK ASS ones that have yet to be mentioned:
1. Gradius II
2. Dragon Saber
3. Spriggan Ghost Warrior
4. Salamander
5. Aldynes (SuperGrafx -- emulation)
6. Raiden (CD version)

and....

6. God Panic (this game is a really corny cute-em-up... I like it)

I'll stop there....
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Keranu

Sometimes I want to say I really like Spriggan, but after the first level, I can't seem to enjoy the game as much :( . It's still really fun to play once you haven't played it in awhile.
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doomfarer75

I'd have to say that I don't have alot of past experience with shooters on the turbo...but i'm getting it now!  it's virtually a shooter fan's wet dream...I am finishing GOT now,  and really was amazed at how thrilling I found it to be and how many times it left me saying "whoa"..   I now have a plethora of shooters lined up...LOT,  star parodia,  parodius,  side arms,..so I'll let you know..I just let spriggan, image fight 2, andcoryoon go on ebay,  guess they are pretty good buys too...but jeez,after GOT,  they have alot to live up to!  they Soldier series is hard to find these days ,  but eventually I want them as well
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LoT has a special place in my heart (that's why I made that PC demo :)  ...there hasn't been that many games that actually get my thumb tired, but LoT is one of them.  The gfx and sound are a true statement as to what the TurboDuo could have been, given another year or so of development time.
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jlued686

Yeah, LoT still amazes me to this day.  And you're right, if the Turbo could have lasted just a bit longer it's would have been great to see how much more of this stuff developers could have pulled off.  IMO, it's the most impressive game on the system and the one I most highly recommend as a showcase game.

Keranu

LoT is a very wonderful game and really shows what a 16-bit CD game is suppose to be like - it's also one-of-a-kind. I think Gates might be just a little better in the gameplay department and soundtrack.
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esteban

Yeah, gates is the shooter i go back to more often... but Gates has such a generic aesthetic... Lords has the much more interesting character design, level aesthetics, and bosses.  that's why Lords rules!  

But Gates is probably the better of the two, when you strip away the aesthetics and look at the core shoot-em-up essence.
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Keranu

Yes, Gates is more for shooter fans and Lords is more for everyone. Another plus side for Gates are the three other games included :D .
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Nutribrain

The shooter I play since 8 years now is Gunhed! That's the one I pop into my PC-Engine once a month to play.

I also enjoyed Gates of Thunder very very much the years back. LOT wasn't really my cup of coffee, as the hard guitar sounds don't turn me on. But it's a formidable shooter anyway.

Oh, and Super Raiden is also one that I pop in once a year ;-)

esteban

Quote from: "Nutribrain"The shooter I play since 8 years now is Gunhed! That's the one I pop into my PC-Engine once a month to play.

I also enjoyed Gates of Thunder very very much the years back. LOT wasn't really my cup of coffee, as the hard guitar sounds don't turn me on. But it's a formidable shooter anyway.

Oh, and Super Raiden is also one that I pop in once a year ;-)

That reminds me... has anyone ever beaten Gunhed at the higher difficulty levels?
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Keranu

I've never beat Blazing Lazers/Gunhed on the default mode! I can nearly make it to the last level though. When you loose your weapon in that game, you're screwed.
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esteban

Blazing Lazers -- I played that game to death when I first got the system (my brothers and I couldn't afford to buy new games for a long time, since we spent all our money on the cosole).

not that u asked, but here are my 2 cents:

1. at many points in the game, you need to shift your speed (select or start button?), and you need to do this according to the weapons you have.  For example, at the end of the game (last stage boss rush), you may only have the pea-shooter... so sometimes you need to put your speed up to the MAX and quickly fly back and forth (horizontally) to take out the enemies.  other times, you need to slow down to navigate the bullets....

2. BETTER TIP: The secret is to keep shooting the power-ups that "cycle" through I, II, III , IV.... keep shooting them and they eventually turn into a blinking rainbow sphere.  

grab this sphere and (1) all enemies on the screen disappear and MORE IMPORTANTLY (2) the next time you die, you'll "re-spawn" and continue on your journey uninterrupted (instead of restarting at the checkpoint).

On default, I get like 15-20 of these "re-spawing" power-ups.  Even if you get sloppy and die towards the end of the game (the boss rush), you won't have return to the checkpoint and keep playing the bosses over and over.  

the last boss is pretty easy on default.  find the speed that is appropriate, though.
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: "Keranu"I've never beat Blazing Lazers/Gunhed on the default mode! I can nearly make it to the last level though. When you loose your weapon in that game, you're screwed.

Half the time I play through it I go through the whole game without being hit. I usually power up weapon III and shields as much as possible, if I hit something else I try to go  back to using weapon III. Just stick with that and you'll survive.
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Keranu

Awesome tips, Steve. I'm going to try those out whenever I can. I never really gave the speed adjustments any thought.

I use to always power up III laser (or should I say "lazer"?) with the fire power items; this makes a green laser that tracks down all enemies. I use to think that was the best until I read this walkthrough once that said a fully fire powered II is probably the best and now I agree. The tracking laser can be useful, but if there is an enemy comming right towards you and your laser is out somewhere else killing things, then you might be in a bad situation.
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Nutribrain

Quote from: "Keranu"I use to think that was the best until I read this walkthrough once that said a fully fire powered II is probably the best and now I agree.

Which walkthrough do you mean?

Keranu

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TurboHuC6280

Gradius and Salamander are some of my all-time favorites for any console (or even the arcade).  I just got import Hucards from Japan this week, and am very happy with the PCE conversions.  I also have really enjoyed Gradius 2: Gofer (another one I got last week).  Parodius Da is on the way here from Japan, as well.  I just got Final Blaster recently, and it is quite fun.

I've had Lords of Thunder for a few years.  The soundtrack still blows my mind.  It is probably one of the greatest shooters ever created.

I've just started building my PCE/Turbo collection, after a hiatus of a few years.  I've not had the opportunity to play some of the great Hudson shooters, but they are on my list of "must-buys".  I had bid for Gunhed on Ebay, but some bid sniper came along in the last few minutes and stole it.  :)

esteban

Quote from: "zborgerd"Gradius and Salamander are some of my all-time favorites for any console (or even the arcade).  I just got import Hucards from Japan this week, and am very happy with the PCE conversions.  I also have really enjoyed Gradius 2: Gofer (another one I got last week).  Parodius Da is on the way here from Japan, as well.  I just got Final Blaster recently, and it is quite fun.

All the Konami PCE shooters are solid.  check out twin bee (although some folks don't like the power-up mechanics)...
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Keranu

Twin Bee is a pretty fun game, although I really don't like the power up system.
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esteban

Yeah, it's challenging... but I got used to it playing Stinger on NES... so now I dig it.  If I hadn't played Stinger to death... I don't know if I'd have as much patience for it now as I do.
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monads

Gonna have to go with in no order of ranking:

1. Blazing Lazers/Gunhed
2. Super Star Soldier
3. Lords of Thunder
4. Gates of Thunder
5. Aldynes (SuperGrafx)
6. R-Type I & II

I have Super Darius and Super Darius 2 but I didn't care for them to much compared to the above.

Salamander and Gradius II have been on my to-get list.

Keranu

I still have yet to play Gradius II. I'm not really a fan of the Gradius series (although I love Parodius), but this game looks a lot more promising from screenshots and a video I've seen.
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monads

How could I forget!

7. Deep Blue

 :D   Has anyone beat it?

esteban

Quote from: "monads"How could I forget!

7. Deep Blue

 :D   Has anyone beat it?

No, I always considered this a tough game... but a fellow at another message board said that with the right strategy this isn't too tough and it isn't that bad of a game.

I think he might have been teasing me, at least a bit, but ... who knows?  I never gave the game a chance...  years later, I did buy a sealed Japanese version.  My goal: to beat DB and love it :)
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monads

I always die during the 4th scene, haven't played an awhile, but now I can't wait to get home and fire it up.  I picked up a new Japanese version as well.

esteban

Quote from: "monads"I always die during the 4th scene, haven't played an awhile, but now I can't wait to get home and fire it up.  I picked up a new Japanese version as well.

we're kindred spirits, just kidding.  I thought this was going to be a darius clone when I first bought it.  You can imagine my surprise.
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monads

Here's another one going through my collection;

8. Kyuukyoku Tiger

Cool powerups and definitely worth the pickup.

Yea, DB is no Darius clone  :D  Totally different.

esteban

ok, you know that tiger heli for NES has a special place in my heart (my first NES game... it was the only NES shoot-em-up in the store...).  Continuing the theme, one of the first Japanese games I bought back in the day was Kyuukyoku Tiger HuCard.

Nowadays these games are panned by many shoot-em-up fans, but I still love these old skool titles.
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Keranu

I love Mr. Heli and Kyuukyoku Tiger! No one here has mentioned Psychosis yet, at least I am assuming that because I'm too lazy to go back and check (Hell I might've said it already :D ). Not many people talk about this shooter, but I think it's pretty fun and has some crazy stuff in it.
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esteban

i like psychosis... :)

check out the cover art (tg16 version)... it's AWESOME.
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Keranu

I have the game, and yes the cover art does indeed rule! Some crazy enemies in that game too.
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esteban

more shooters should have fetus-like enemies.
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Keranu

I really dig the boss designs in R-Type. Especially if I remember correctly the second or third level boss which looked like a vagina or something. The first level boss is awesome as well.
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doomfarer75

I got R-type complete on SCD  the other day..that game rocks!  the music is killer.  for those of you who have played the hu-card and the cd,  what are the differences? I know that  my version has r-type 1&2 on it plus cinemas,  but I guess the music was changed...but I love the music on my version..plus it's tough!  eventually I will pick up the 2 hucards...r-type 2 never came out in the us right?
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Keranu

The US HuCard of R-Type has all the levels from R-Type on it, so it has both R-Type 1 and 2 HuCards in it.
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monads

I have the  PC engine HuCard versions of R-Type and they're split on 2 cards.

I also have the Playstation version R-Types.  It has original R-Type and R-Type II.  R-Type on this CD is no where near the quality for the PC Engine.  Colors are a little different, controls are slow, and there's slowdown?!  I would have never known had I not picked up the PC Engine version.

I'm gonna have to check out Psychosis now.

esteban

Quote from: "doomfarer75"I got R-type complete on SCD  the other day..that game rocks!  the music is killer.  for those of you who have played the hu-card and the cd,  what are the differences? I know that  my version has r-type 1&2 on it plus cinemas,  but I guess the music was changed...but I love the music on my version..plus it's tough!  eventually I will pick up the 2 hucards...r-type 2 never came out in the us right?

yeah, the SCD version is great... but I dig the HuCard PSG tunes as well.  I'm pretty certain that the game itself is identical, it simply adds cinemas and Red Book soundtrack.

I love the 80's-sounding tunes on the CD soundtrack (R R R R R R R -type)...
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Keranu

I really want to get the Complete CD now.
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jlued686

I just played Lords of Thunder for about two hours straight.  I beat a good portion of it before I had to go out to dinner.  What a great game...  I can't get over just how good it was.

Keranu

Yeah Lords is great; I recently beat it for the billionth time actually. If you stick to the Earth armor, it's actually a pretty easy game.
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jlued686

Stick to the Earth Armor, eh?  I'll try that.  Is there really that big of a difference between armors other than the type of weapon you have?  I was never sure if I should use the fire armor on the fire level, etc.

Keranu

I'm not exactly sure if a specific armor is better for a specific level, but I find that the Earth Armor is a lot more damaging than the other types and works well, especially against the last boss.
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Necro

No love for Air Zonk?   :shock:  I love Zonk...  tons of sweet power ups, colorful graphics lots of fun, tons of boss fights on that last level.  :D

DrangonmasterDan, you aren't related to Dragonmaster Blackwolf are you?  Kidding of course... :lol:

esteban

Quote from: Necro on 03/19/2005, 10:53 PMNo love for Air Zonk?   :shock:  I love Zonk...  tons of sweet power ups, colorful graphics lots of fun, tons of boss fights on that last level.  :D

DrangonmasterDan, you aren't related to Dragonmaster Blackwolf are you?  Kidding of course... :lol:

Dragonmaster Blackwolf rules.  Seriously. 

I just read a review of Air Zonk (CD version) that convinced me I should get the Japanese CD ... I was content with the HuCard, but now I want more... read review here    Up to now, I didn't doubt the folks who were dissing the SCD version... guess I gotta determine this for myself.
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monads

Has anyone beat Salamander on the Expert setting?  I almost beat it on Beginner the other day but got wiped out.