Ouya game console?

[OldRover]

Is it worth developing (free) games for an installed userbase of 40,000 people?

We make games here for a userbase of under 1000... and remember, the Ouya isn't about making free games, it's about making games that contain some kind of free play. You're still able to charge whatever you want for the full product.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Yeah, but the difference between doing it here in TurbobLand and RealWorldLand is, we aren't expecting to be wiping our asses with 100$ bills after we release games on the Turboboner

[soop]

Yeah, but the difference between doing it here in TurbobLand and RealWorldLand is, we aren't expecting to be wiping our asses with 100$ bills after we release games on the Turboboner

Exactly. We're talking about full scale products with teams of employees who expect to be able to eat at the end of the month, purely on what they do.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/17/interview-ouya-ceo-julie-uhrman/

In other news, they haven't actually finished designing it yet.  I'm willing to bet they allow mission-creep to dictate the hardware.

and I bet Microsoft bought up most of those developer kits too   Probably the easiest way to shoot them in the kneecap!

[Arkhan Asylum]

Hope it don't fall on its face.

Wouldn't it be funny as fuck if they turn out to be tablets inside, with the output routed out the back of the case, and a bluetooth controller?

That would be the biggest, funniest scam ever.

[DrBread]

I don't like the idea it's just only android market games and it probably has a weak gpu. BUT it will make a great emulator and it's open for homebrewers.

[OldRover]

The Tegra3 is supposed to have decent graphics capabilities.

[thesteve]

if it can bring clasic style gaming to HD compatability it would make a great retro console

[NecroPhile]

The Tegra3 is supposed to have decent graphics capabilities.

It's decent for a phone, but I can't see it looking good scaled up to more than double the resolution.  Aren't most PS3 and 360 games only 720p?  If they can't handle 1080p, there's not much chance the comparatively weaksauce Tegra3 is going to look great in HD.

[PikachuWarrior]

Yeah, graphics are not as good as ps3/360 as a dedicated home console. The graphics are good for a cell phone though.

[RegalSin]

I think the idea, is to have all of your cell phone games running on one console, instead of searching for cell phone emulators.

Like for example, Rockman Dash and Resident Evil CGI had Cell phone games in fully 3d. I would love to play those games on my Gamecube right now, but instead they are making a console to run something I could get run on a computer?

Meanwhile........Regalsin spends hundreds of dollars on Computer that is less then 14mhz.

[PikachuWarrior]

It depends if developers are willing to add support for game controllers and that specific console. I doubt games will be able to be adapted to work flawlessly right away.

[OldRover]

The Tegra3 is already 1080p by default, or so it says on Nvidia's website. Many games use 720p because they would otherwise have to be scaled down for 720p or 480p, which might not give such good results... it's better to scale up than down. Also, fewer display lines means less work for the GPU.

Well, considering the vast amount of interest in this console from backers, I'm seriously considering it now... I may even back it myself with a substantial donation.

[PikachuWarrior]

I'm just going to watch idle, and see if the product actually comes to fruition in the spring of 2013. If it does, and it looks promising, I may pick it up at that time.

[soop]

Don't forget, phone screen resolutions can be higher than TVs.  The iPhone 4 is much higher res than any HD TV.  Not that it's android mind.

[bob]

I haven't read all the posts, and maybe somebody mentioned it already, but isnt Apple half way there with the Apple TV?  Couldn't they just essentially create a controller and be done with it?  It already plugs into iTunes and iTunes already has games, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. I'm no apple fanboy by any means, but I like my AppleTV quite a bit for what it does.

[soop]

I haven't read all the posts, and maybe somebody mentioned it already, but isnt Apple half way there with the Apple TV?  Couldn't they just essentially create a controller and be done with it?  It already plugs into iTunes and iTunes already has games, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. I'm no apple fanboy by any means, but I like my AppleTV quite a bit for what it does.

That's actually a really good point..  Didn't I see some kind of article mentioning something like this somewhere?

That alone would kill ouya. *edit*, well, maybe not, but it would dent them.

[bob]

I haven't read all the posts, and maybe somebody mentioned it already, but isnt Apple half way there with the Apple TV?  Couldn't they just essentially create a controller and be done with it?  It already plugs into iTunes and iTunes already has games, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. I'm no apple fanboy by any means, but I like my AppleTV quite a bit for what it does.

That's actually a really good point..  Didn't I see some kind of article mentioning something like this somewhere?

That alone would kill ouya. *edit*, well, maybe not, but it would dent them.

Right, there is already a well established platform and distribution ecosystem.  Sounds like ouya is trying to build this from the ground up.  Essentially, this is just an Android version of what apple is already positioned to do.  The kickstarter pledges all seem to reserve a username for the platform (iTunes is already there), create an affordable channel to buy games (iTunes), no media (iTunes), probably no netflix (iTunes has it).  It just doesn't make much sense to put another box in the market.  Maybe they should have partnered with Roku and just build the middleware to access the Android Play market...and build a controller.  It just seems this is late to the game, even though Apple has not pulled the trigger yet on making the games available.  Apple could even take it a step further since the products already contain AirPlay which pushes apple content to a TV if you have the AppleTV box.  Fire up a game on the iPad or iPhone, push it to TV using AirPlay and you're good to go.  Again, the controller is the missing piece.  Actually, don't some bluetooth pads/joysticks already work?

Not to sidetrack the post, but I have been having a hell of a time getting a wiimote to synch with my Samsung Glide to work with PCE.emu.
About the only games I can play are boxyboy and military madness with the onscreen controls because they don't take quick reflexes which always makes me miss the buttons.  I hate onscreen controls no matter how they are implemented.

[Nando]

Not to sidetrack the post, but I have been having a hell of a time getting a wiimote to synch with my Samsung Glide to work with PCE.emu.

If you have Root access and a PS3, the six axis pairing tool works really well. I have a Samsung Conquer.

[bob]

Not to sidetrack the post, but I have been having a hell of a time getting a wiimote to synch with my Samsung Glide to work with PCE.emu.

If you have Root access and a PS3, the six axis pairing tool works really well. I have a Samsung Conquer.

I am borderline retarded with this stuff and I'm not afraid to admit it.  I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure you do.
I have learned more from this forum in a couple of months than google has taught me in 5 years.  I stayed home from work for a week because I was so proud of myself to get the homebrew channel to work on my Wii.  Played all NES and Turbo ROM's during that time, then realized emulation kind of sucks, so I have been buying a lot more originals.  Only good thing about emulation, is it certainly steered me away from some games that I'm glad I didn't waste money on.  Once I got it working, I bought a second wii because I didn't want any system updates to wipe it out.  That one now sits in my gameroom with no internet connection and I won't play any new games on it.

[Nando]

Only good thing about emulation, is it certainly steered me away from some games that I'm glad I didn't waste money on.

Pretty much what I do as well.

Anyway, here ya go: http://www.dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/about.html  should have everything you need to get you started. Samsung bluetooth protocol is a joke and they never kept up with the google pledge, in any event make sure you use the free test tool to check your compatibility.

If you can't get it to work, you can root it, just gotta make sure you disable the auto updates on your phone or you'll run into the Wii issues you mentioned.
Here's some info on that
http://www.androidauthority.com/captivate-glide-sgh-i927-root-50803/

[esteban]

I hate to be the eternal pessimist, but the Ouya reeks of wishful thinking.

Designing the hardware itself is simply the beginning of the challenges... I have little confidence in the experience and talents of the Ouya Team to pull this off. Heck, it would be difficult for one of the heavy hitters to pull this off (from scratch).

[soop]

I hate to be the eternal pessimist, but the Ouya reeks of wishful thinking.

Designing the hardware itself is simply the beginning of the challenges... I have little confidence in the experience and talents of the Ouya Team to pull this off. Heck, it would be difficult for one of the heavy hitters to pull this off (from scratch).

"I know, let's crowdsource everything!"

[guyjin]

Tegra3 promo video. Nothing mind blowing, but a little more involved than Angry Birds.

[SuperPlay]

I have $99 dollars here somewhere ..... let me at it ;-) LOL

[Arkhan Asylum]

Well, considering the vast amount of interest in this console from backers, I'm seriously considering it now... I may even back it myself with a substantial donation.

why donate?  it's already funded, and the developer tier is sold out.

Would be a waste.   They don't need anymore money.

[RegalSin]

Cell phone emulator + TV out = this game console

[OldRover]

why donate?  it's already funded, and the developer tier is sold out.

It wasn't when I actually posted that.

[Arkhan Asylum]

You sure about that?

The developer tier was sold out when I posted about it on Monday the 16th on a different forum, and that was in the AM, so I'd venture to guess it was sold out a day or so prior...

[PikachuWarrior]

Cell phone emulator + TV out = this game console

I was thinking the same thing. A lot of phones/tablets will have the same or slightly better quad cpus by the time this gets released (if it meets the release date). People just want to root for the unique, different device out there and hopefully it creates a stir in the gaming community.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I was thinking the same thing. A lot of phones/tablets will have the same or slightly better quad cpus by the time this gets released (if it meets the release date). People just want to root for the unique, different device out there and hopefully it creates a stir in the gaming community.

Its because there is this steady wave of fuckin' "revolutionists" that think its cool to "overthrow" Microsoft and Sony...



.....by slapping a tablet in a box and calling it new.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Hmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo.  Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396

[Nando]

Hmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo.  Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396

The onlive and Square/Enix support is a good business bit going for them. I'm surprised EA hasn't announced anything, then again, I haven't really been looking.

[soop]

Hmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo.  Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396

The onlive and Square/Enix support is a good business bit going for them. I'm surprised EA hasn't announced anything, then again, I haven't really been looking.

EA probably saw the words "Free games" and nailed that coffin shut.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Hmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo.  Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396

sweet.

more games I already played.

[grimm]

I actually backed this with a $99 pledge ($119 since im in Europe). Since im not interested in phones, adapters and that stuff this would be a good sollution for me to play Android-based games. Plus i like the concept a lot, the free to hack aproach etc.. Its more than you can say for the big three. They pretty much will shut down second hand games for good with the next generation consoles. Not to mention locking each game to just one account. Ive got ps ps2 and ps3, but there prolly wont be a ps4 for me.

[RegalSin]

If I was a blind man, and I can't feel something I brought, then their is no point in buying it. Whatever I buy better have a case, or body itself, or some container. Buying downloads is the most stupidest joke, ever concieved.

For them to charge $5.00 for something, is like back in the 1980's when people stopped buying suits and wearing tee-shirts because of local advertisment on the
red-carpet. Then suits prices, sky rocketed. Suits was a normal thing men wore, but
not after the 1980's. With media, when you buy something it must have a body.
It is not the same as going to the teathers, with a big screen, and popcorn. It is
like buying nothing out of thin air.

Wake up cheapo, your being jacked.

The onlive and Square/Enix support is a good business bit going for them. I'm surprised EA hasn't announced anything, then again, I haven't really been looking.

Square just does want to print anymore CD's. They do not care anymore, it is just about keeping the fire lite. I 100% do not understand how people play these devices. Just like Naughty Dog's Crash Bandicoot original is on the ipad, many other

PORTS

Will also be on board. Lets be realistic, Crash is a PSX generation 1 game, it was out with Bug, and Spyro alongside it. Here comes a bunch of releases being brought to people who would never thought to buy a game system or remember what one is.

Next fact


Young people do not have any money

They get money from their parents, and the only way for them to order new content, is by having a gift card ( which usually have leftover money, afterwards.


No more second hand gaming, means no more collecting, no more value

Why is this the most important thing for us to understand,

BECAUSE WHEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE DIE IN A PLANE CRASH, WHO WILL CLAIM THEIR ACCOUNTS?

It is like when my family member, died they had an $800 three bedroom apartment with long kitchen. Not one of the family members took it over, they just gave the damn thing back to the landlord. The place is probably in the $1500-2500 range right now.

However this is worst, now nobody will give a damn, whatsoever. It is like PSO, items,
or DAD items. You just brought something that was presented to you inside of program. It does not exsist whatsoever.

The same with UV. UV is non-exsistant.


EXAMPLE

I have tons of comic books, and one of them came from a WWII, who was stationed in Japan. Think about it, a person from a war buying a comic book to read, vs a person in a war who brought a comic book on their Iphone. It has no value, at all. It is just for a limited amount of time.

Remember the term "Don't copy that floppy" this is that same exact term all over, again, but they figure people are too stupid, to just download the game on to a computer and transfer it to another device. With programs being networked, like Alcohol 120% for example, it can report a bad version, and then blacklist you, like
with X-box users.

..................................................................................................

[esteban]

No more second hand gaming, means no more collecting, no more value

Why is this the most important thing for us to understand,

BECAUSE WHEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE DIE IN A PLANE CRASH, WHO WILL CLAIM THEIR ACCOUNTS?

It is like when my family member, died they had an $800 three bedroom apartment with long kitchen. Not one of the family members took it over, they just gave the damn thing back to the landlord. The place is probably in the $1500-2500 range right now.

I love your examples. I, too, am concerned about the loss of digital information/virtual property (e-mail, online accounts, on-line subscriptions) when planes full of people crash.

Well, RegalSin, to be fair, this can be solved if digital items are allowed to be transferred/sold/traded to new owners.

I'm mostly talking about traditional media items (songs, films, games, novels, etc.), but I suppose it could (should?) be extended to all virtual ownership rights.

The following option should be available from service providers:

In the event of my death/permanent state of vegetation, please transfer authority to access my account to ____RegalSin@aol.com____.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

I went into a local GameStop (I know, I know... how could I?) and they had a poster up with the Ouya on it for $99 or $149 with controller pre-orders.

That this was interesting...

[NecroPhile]

It comes with one controller standard, so the $149 would be with a second one.

I kinda liked the idea of this at first (at least it was cheap), but I think it's a joke now that they're planning to release a new, updated console annually.  Assuming game makers take advantage of the extra power, you'll end up spending just as much on a ouya platform than what you'd spend on a Wii U/PS4/720 over their ~8 year life span.

[futureman2000]

Every year? Goofy. I was into this at first too, but I soured on it after looking at the controller. It seemed like the perfect little emulator box to hook up to the tv, but that only works if the controller is awesome.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

I was into this at first too, but I soured on it after looking at the controller. It seemed like the perfect little emulator box to hook up to the tv, but that only works if the controller is awesome.

Under-the-hood the OUYA is just a launcher on top of android 4.1. That being said, the OUYA supports as many controllers as 4.1 android does. So you'll be able to use any ps3 controller and wired xbox 360 controllers via USB OTG. Or wireless xbox 360 controllers with the USB Adapter.  Not sure if that changes your opinion or not, but it gives us options at least.

[Arkhan Asylum]

It comes with one controller standard, so the $149 would be with a second one.

I kinda liked the idea of this at first (at least it was cheap), but I think it's a joke now that they're planning to release a new, updated console annually.  Assuming game makers take advantage of the extra power, you'll end up spending just as much on a ouya platform than what you'd spend on a Wii U/PS4/720 over their ~8 year life span.

yup.

Unless you want to play Ouya3 power games on an Ouya1 at 20FPS!

BUDGET GAYMER!

its no longer a console at this point.  its just a tablet in a box.

... isn't that what I said in this thread like, on page 2 or something?   lol

[grimm]

Its always been a tablet in a box?

[geise]

The fact that it has Android on it is reason enough to stay away.  Far far away.

[futureman2000]

Anyone get theirs yet? I've heard bad things...

[esteban]

I am curious to see what happens...

Despite my earlier fears/doubts, it would be nice to have another viable platform...viable being the operative word.

[PukeSter]

Ouya's got a lot of competition...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/872297630/gamestick-the-most-portable-tv-games-console-ever?ref=live

Gamestick. Seems pretty nice. $20 cheaper.

http://www.gamepop.tv/

Gamepop looks meh to me.

[Arkhan Asylum]

PLAY buttons?

How much cornier could that be.

[Nando]

Somehow I think they are looking beyond the US market with this one. Hell of an gaming gift for a youngling!

[Psycho Punch]

This "annual update" thing killed all my interest for the system. Please tell me you're only joking.