Michael Jackson

[esteban]

This thread started out innocently enough...

[turboswimbz]

It's always the good ones that go bad! (totally refering to threads based on estebans comment, I am not commenting on a person being good or bad)

[RegalSin]

That is just because the bad people in the world, are the ones who were never wanted to begin with. Nobody is never bad, they just make retarded laws, against the unwanted people.

Leave Michael Jackson alone, as kid he worked like a man, so when does he finally gets to be a kid? I guess ever man after a certain age, should throw pool parties with saggy models, and get married to a wayward teenage bride, or something like that, just because it seems normal. Is it normal for Opera to bath herself in a pool full of chocolate?

[Xray]

Loudest mouths on any forum are always, but always, the ones with 1,000's of posts - Which tells me they don't get much action in real life.
You guys are probably boy lovers yourselves, I'll take the high road and bow out of any further discourse with juvenile flame cravers like you two.

Actually asswipe, I was not really a MJ fan.  All I was saying was there was NEVER any solid proof.  Get your head out your ass.  Thats it, thats all, end of story.  Sounds to me, that you stand by your convictions on myths and media stories blown out of proportion.  I broke bad with you, when you made it personal.  Nobody asked you to be judge and jury.  So, yeah..  anyway.  Far as having the biggest mouths on the internet, for real?  lol.  Dont make me laugh.  All this would have been prevented IF you sir, had not taken offense to someone else having a different point of view.  Show me concrete evidence, I will shut the fuck up.  And stooping to threatening on the internet??  LOL.  I wouldn't say anything here that I wouldn't say in person.  If this is how you acted in a normal conversation, not allowing others to say, "Hey, wait a second...this is what I think." then you don't belong in a SOCIETY, let alone a forum.  And furthermore, I certainly would have said exactly what I just said, then walked away.  Like I am doing now.  I have too many good friends here to let this kinda shit get me in trouble here.  Oh, one more thing.....

/At%20Bernies%20006.jpg

Come get some....
https://www.facebook.com/bernard.lindell

Oh wow, anime  tattoos and and piercings, very intimidating !
I actually wasn't even referring to you, what you quoted, but you can stick your finger right up your ass, don't have the time of day to bicker with you either, pedo defender.

[Bernie]

[KnightWarrior]

Whoa people, What's with the fighting

Anyhoo, Billie Jean is my Fav Song of all time

[SamIAm]

I agree that there is no evidence that isn't contestable. People's opinions come down to their gut reactions, and those aren't worth much. I'm heavily inclined to think that he didn't do it.

Also, Thriller and Off The Wall are great albums, and the Sonic 3 soundtrack is awesome.

[Bernie]

Yeah...  sorry Knight.  I get carried away sometimes.  Man in the Mirror and Beat it are two of my faves.

[KnightWarrior]

That's ok

There just in it for the money btw, I was reading one of your replys

[OldRover]

Well, this has been amusing.

[Bernie]

Always Rover!

[Arkhan Asylum]

Loudest mouths on any forum are always, but always, the ones with 1,000's of posts - Which tells me they don't get much action in real life.
You guys are probably boy lovers yourselves, I'll take the high road and bow out of any further discourse with juvenile flame cravers like you two.

I loled.

Me, not get any action in real life?  That's hilarious.  You're a dipshit.

Also, I have thousands of posts because I'm an active member of this community.  This includes making games for the Turbo Grafx.   

Maybe you should shut the fuck up and stop making ignorant ass accusations about forum members here.

Or you could keep being a man lovin' penis oven and wonder why noone likes you.



back on topic, I'd have let MJ touch my boyparts for a magical chase.

[tpivette]

Geez, you get a couple of Turbo fans and they agree on everything Turbo related (which is what this site is for after all)... but throw MJ into the mix and suddenly they're at each others throats...

[Bernie]

Wasnt the subject, but his "my way is right and everyone else is wrong" attitude.

[PCEngineHell]

Xray, making important decisions daily in the imaginary criminal justice system he runs both as judge and prosecution, based solely on media provided evidence.....Umm yeah...... MJ may have been guilty, or may not have. He did not really go out of his way to prove his innocence, and he kept on inviting kids over long after initial problems appeared, but also, no one really had a massive amount of damning evidence either. Being eccentric itself isn't a crime. He's dead now, so now it only really matters to the supposed victims, their parents who some of which seemed to be more interested in payouts or whatever, and the prosecution who evidently dropped the ball if something did indeed occur. Nothing worth going apeshit crazy over Xray....Not now anyway...

[Xray]

Xray, making important decisions daily in the imaginary criminal justice system he runs both as judge and prosecution, based solely on media provided evidence.....Umm yeah...... MJ may have been guilty, or may not have. He did not really go out of his way to prove his innocence, and he kept on inviting kids over long after initial problems appeared, but also, no one really had a massive amount of damning evidence either. Being eccentric itself isn't a crime. He's dead now, so now it only really matters to the supposed victims, their parents who some of which seemed to be more interested in payouts or whatever, and the prosecution who evidently dropped the ball if something did indeed occur. Nothing worth going apeshit crazy over Xray....Not now anyway...

Apeshit crazy ?
I guess you never seen crazy then - And I don't see you on record censuring anyone posting half pics of them flipping birds, and calling me all sorts of juvenile names - Don't know what else these jokers have been saying, as I took the high road and put them on ignore. Nice to be objective !
I'll state a few things for the record, hopefully you won't have a heart attack or anything - And hopefully you won't fly off the handle, and start issuing facebook/twitter show downs [don't have an account on either, don't want or need one]:

* No question in my mind that he was a sick, boy loving pedo, you are free to differ, doesn't bother me in the least.
* Would never hang with anyone who listens to a fruity guy like that - Never have, never will.

 I get my opinions from "media provided evidence" ? Where, pray tell, do you get yours ??

[Bernie]

You started all that shit with your attitude that everyone was wrong but you.  Anyone reading through the thread KNOWS where the attitude generated from you.

[Xray]

Oh shit, someones on the rag tonight ! Or maybe permanently !
Watcha think about that, PCEngineHell ?? Apeshit, or what ?

Don't know why that girly rant was emailed to me ,,, Lets just say, pierced snookums, that I am not about to indulge your childish passion for flames - And at least I know who my daddy is, pedo foster child.

[Bernie]

Wow....

[PCEngineHell]

You tell me to shut the fuck up - Something you'd be highly unlikely to do in person

Loudest mouths on any forum are always, but always, the ones with 1,000's of posts - Which tells me they don't get much action in real life.
You guys are probably boy lovers yourselves, I'll take the high road and bow out of any further discourse with juvenile flame cravers like you two.

/\THIS/\ is why you're having fucking problems now. You've gone off on the deep end and turned yourself into a proverbial train wreck on this thread.

Oh shit, someones on the rag tonight ! Or maybe permanently !
Watcha think about that, PCEngineHell ?? Apeshit, or what ?

Don't know why that girly rant was emailed to me ,,, Lets just say, pierced snookums, that I am not about to indulge your childish passion for flames - And at least I know who my daddy is, pedo foster child.

What the fuck are you rambling on about there? Are you implying your daddy was named Pedo Foster Child? Don't you have a bag of dicks ready to stuff in that big fat fucking mouth of yours already?

[Bernie]

He is referring to a pm I set.him.  Which is very cordial by the way.  I save all my outgoing messages so when I get home I will copy/paste what I wrote in response to his response here.  Cant do it from my phone.

[PCEngineHell]

He is referring to a pm I set.him.  Which is very cordial by the way.  I save all my outgoing messages so when I get home I will copy/paste what I wrote in response to his response here.  Cant do it from my phone.

It's too bad he's gone all fucking mental and shit, accusing people of being pedobears and what not just because people wont agree with him inthe manner he wants them to or whatever. He had a great idea with the TG16 lit sign things, had me really interested, but I wont deal with anyone who goes fucking mental over shit like this. He's takin it all way way too personal.

[TheClash603]

Well Xray was right in what he said about MJ, but just wrong in how he said it.  MJ guy molested children, no doubt.  It is a weird world we live in where stuff like molesting is excusable because you have good dance moves.

[HercTNT]

Well Xray was right in what he said about MJ, but just wrong in how he said it.  MJ guy molested children, no doubt.  It is a weird world we live in where stuff like molesting is excusable because you have good dance moves.

You have no more proof that he did, than anyone else does. His belongings and his estates were all searched completely and nothing was ever found. the point is, in our legal system you don't have to prove you didn't, or you would not be innocent until proven guilty. Now, that does not mean you're not entitled to your opinions. As professor said, its not like MJ helped his image all that much with his bizarre behavior guilty or not. One can certianly see many would believe MJ was guilty. Its all moot though as: he's dead, and: this is chit chat and not fighting street. The way people are going fruity over this is really nuts. Does everyone realize its a full moon tonight?

edited for mispelling

[Arkhan Asylum]

lol.  who shows up, makes < 100 posts, lashes out at the regulars, and then puts them on ignore?


Dipshits.

That's who.

[PCEngineHell]

Well Xray was right in what he said about MJ, but just wrong in how he said it.  MJ guy molested children, no doubt.  It is a weird world we live in where stuff like molesting is excusable because you have good dance moves.

Its not for me to decide if he did it or not, and if it was, I'd personally require more evidence then just what ever is provided by the 10 O'Clock News before I make my final decision on someones guilt. As is I feel it was up to law enforcement to prove in a court of law whether he was guilty or not. I am a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty. Regardless, as a responsible parent, personally, I don't care who the person was, star or not, I'd not have been sending my kids over for sleep overs with "adults". Thats just asking for it and I don't understand the logic of the parents who did that, and Michael Jackson should have been considered eccentric enough as it is that it wouldn't be worth the risk. For them to do that, they might as well have been handing their kids over to any creepy guy that pulled up in a white van offering free candy and sodas because they clearly did not act responsibly with their children, regardless of whether MJ did it or not.

[Bernie]

 

[esteban]

Hany, startled awake in the middle of the night by a violent thunderclap, looks up to the heavens and pleads: "Peace, love and harmony. Is that too much to ask?"

[Emerald Rocker]

I have reviewed the evidence and now deliver a stunning verdict!  And that verdict is...

Sorry Bernie, but after reading that series of quotes that you posted, your line of "Lol.  Choose to believe whatever the media says." is where this thing shut down.

Until then, you were both talking about MJ -- you believed MJ is innocent (you blatantly said so -- you didn't stop at saying "there's no evidence", you actually said he's innocent), meanwhile Xray believed MJ is guilty.  You both presented your cases in classic bro speak with lines like "only thing MJ is guilty of is being a weird mofo" versus "he was a complete POS as a person, and deserved to be castrated".

But then you dismissed Xray's view as being based on the media, as though your view is based on some higher authority.  You acted like you somehow knew better, and he totally called you on it.  That's when you started back-pedaling, claiming to be misinterpreted, started saying that he made it personal, etc... but Xray's got a point.  You escalated this thing twice (once by dissing his opinion, and again by telling him to "shut the **** up"), so you don't get to play the victim card.

[Keranu]

My verdict: Michael Jackson is the shit; always has been, always will be. If you don't like him, go play some Lords of Thunder.

[esteban]

My verdict: Michael Jackson is the shit; always has been, always will be. If you don't like him, go play some Lords of Thunder.

With full confidence*, Hany declares "I HEREBY SUPPORT THIS VERDICT. TG-16 COURT ADJOURNED."




P.S. As Hany is quick to point out (with heavy heart), Emerald Rocker has no jurisdiction to make a ruling. He can, however, provide a brief that lays out his reasoning. The TG-16 COURT has examined Emerald Rocker's brief and found it pithy and coherent. That said, Michael Jackson is the shit.

[OldRover]

No evidence, no guilt. Case closed.

[TheClash603]

How does everyone feel about Casey Anthony?  OJ Simpson?

Fixed to cancel troll-notion, outside of Fighting Street.

...but my point remains.  This country further spirals down a path of degeneration that sickens me every day.

[HercTNT]

appreciate the edit, just trying to keep things alittle more civil.

edited to acknowledge clashes edit

[turboswimbz]

you know what's as good as MJ ... MC

That's right

Mac and Cheese.
Mac and Cheese.

[OldRover]

Same thing in both of those cases, Clash... no evidence, no guilt.

[TheClash603]

Same thing in both of those cases, Clash... no evidence, no guilt.

The thing is, there was evidence and plenty of it, just no guilt found.

Juries are comprised of a group of average joes that decide the fate of the defendant.  The trick here is that there are very high paid lawyers who are excellent at gaming the legal system.  These guys make millions of dollars each year because they are able to tip the jury selection in their favor.  If you are a rich man about to go on trial, why pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a high priced lawyer and not just get the public defender?  The reason is because the high priced lawyer gives you an unfair advantage in gaming the legal system.

Go outside and walk down a crowded urban street.  Tell me that if someone you know was murdered by a wealthy or famous person, you would be comfortable with some of these people on the jury?

Innocence in a court of law does not mean you are innocent, it just means you won your case.

[PCEngineHell]

I have reviewed the evidence and now deliver a stunning verdict!  And that verdict is...

Sorry Bernie, but after reading that series of quotes that you posted, your line of "Lol.  Choose to believe whatever the media says." is where this thing shut down.

Until then, you were both talking about MJ -- you believed MJ is innocent (you blatantly said so -- you didn't stop at saying "there's no evidence", you actually said he's innocent), meanwhile Xray believed MJ is guilty.  You both presented your cases in classic bro speak with lines like "only thing MJ is guilty of is being a weird mofo" versus "he was a complete POS as a person, and deserved to be castrated".

But then you dismissed Xray's view as being based on the media, as though your view is based on some higher authority.  You acted like you somehow knew better, and he totally called you on it.  That's when you started back-pedaling, claiming to be misinterpreted, started saying that he made it personal, etc... but Xray's got a point.  You escalated this thing twice (once by dissing his opinion, and again by telling him to "shut the **** up"), so you don't get to play the victim card.

I can see your point, but at the same time, I think the thing is Bernie is saying he isn't just going to play the part of judge, prosecution, and jury, and say MJ is guilty without actual evidence presented to him from sources other then the media. To be honest, what other "evidence" was provided other then what seedy tidbits the media put out there? Nothing like DNA test results, evidence from rape kits, etc were presented, and no case went forward into a court room for a trial, where ALL legitimate available evidence could be presented and testimony could be presented before a properly appointed judge and jury.

We as a nation would be in sad shape if someone actually was convicted solely due to hearsay and articles run in the morning news, without actual due process. The only trial that should have mattered here is the one in the court of law, not the one of public opinion. The one of public opinion should have played out afterwards after the accused got their fair shake. Unfortunately that did not happen, guilty or not.

And as stated above, Bernie did try to cool things down with the guy and make amends. The guy acts like he's never taken part in forum activity before though. Basically hes accused a bunch of people here of being pedo sympathizers and crap on no basis other then that they don't agree with his opinion or told him to fuck off, people who refuse to "convict" someone simply based on heresay and media tidbits.

Neither Bernie nor Xray are victims, but I don't think Bernie was playing the victim card either. He posted what he said and has shown he tried to cool things down with the guy. Xray wont have any part of it though. Things did not really get out of control until all the pedo accusations started up and the implied threats of physical violence or wtf ever Xray was trying to convey there were posted.

I repeat, nothing said by Bernie or anyone else deserved the kind of lashing out Xray did. Xray took it to the next level by attacking peoples character and convictions here. There was no need for it to go that far, and just to grind it in, Xray has indeed carried over this petty crap into his raffle and sales. There is simply no justification for that.

[tggodfrey]

X-Ray

Perhaps MJ is guilty, perhaps he is innocent.  The only people you can be mad at are the Cops, Judges, and Jurys.  In other words you get to be angry and the very fundemental aspect of our jurisdiction that lets pedphiles and their victems walk free......That is the concept that we will allow a million guilty men walk free before we convict one innocent person.   If you dont like it there is a place you can protest and your free to do so....Washington DC.  Throwing a hissy fit in a forum because you spent your childhood fondled by your late uncle touchy and your mom blamed you for it is not really a productive way to use your time.......Then again neither is sitting in the house all day playing video games but we all do it from time to time.

    Before you attempt to insult Bernie by telling him what he can shove up his ass....take a minute to consider that many people actually enjoy the ol glory hole and in reality all your really doing is wasting your time.  

As for OJ......thats one smart motherf(*&R.  I would pay anything to know how you kill the bitch who is fucking you over and walk.  I could make one hell of a living doing that.  Instead I am plagued with this stench that keeps coming out of my crawlspace and my freezer is already full.

Now if you actually are still reading and your mind hasnt drifted off like mine tends to with every other long winded post on this forum......One honest and serious word of advice.......Stop taking the interwebz so serious..........who really gives a flying rat fuck what someones opinion really is?  Is alienating yourself on the forum really worth some retarded bickering over something pointless such as an opinion?  Of course not but your doing a good job of it and in the end all your actually accomplishing is insulting everyone's intelligence.  All that will do is make people not want to work with you regardless of what you try and present to the community in terms of sales or trades and it will reduce your game hunting to ebay and whatever events you attend.  My point here is all your doing is hurting yourself, if your here to acquire games becuase ebay is retro-rapists or to discuss a common interest then your obviously screwing yourself because noone is going to want to deal with you.

Terry

[Bernie]

I have reviewed the evidence and now deliver a stunning verdict!  And that verdict is...

Sorry Bernie, but after reading that series of quotes that you posted, your line of "Lol.  Choose to believe whatever the media says." is where this thing shut down.

Until then, you were both talking about MJ -- you believed MJ is innocent (you blatantly said so -- you didn't stop at saying "there's no evidence", you actually said he's innocent), meanwhile Xray believed MJ is guilty.  You both presented your cases in classic bro speak with lines like "only thing MJ is guilty of is being a weird mofo" versus "he was a complete POS as a person, and deserved to be castrated".

But then you dismissed Xray's view as being based on the media, as though your view is based on some higher authority.  You acted like you somehow knew better, and he totally called you on it.  That's when you started back-pedaling, claiming to be misinterpreted, started saying that he made it personal, etc... but Xray's got a point.  You escalated this thing twice (once by dissing his opinion, and again by telling him to "shut the **** up"), so you don't get to play the victim card.

Yes, I said he was innocent, because he was NEVER proved guilty with viable evidence.  Dismissing his view as being based on the media, is exactly what I did.  By your "investigation" standards, if someone came along and pointed the finger at ANYONE, then it hits the media, bam they are guilty.  Why, because that is what sells.  I am not playing the victim card as you say.    And I most certainly was NOT speaking in bro talk or whatever the hell you call it.  I spelled motherfucker like mofo cause I was trying to be a little less vulgar.  Mofo looks much better than motherfucker...  Dont you think?   

[Bernie]

As for OJ......thats one smart motherf(*&R.  I would pay anything to know how you kill the bitch who is fucking you over and walk.  I could make one hell of a living doing that.  Instead I am plagued with this stench that keeps coming out of my crawlspace and my freezer is already full.


Terry

This... I love it!!  I always felt that bitch deserved what she got.  And hell yeah I think OJ did it.  Too bad he was too damn stupid to stay out of prison for too long tho..  Damn, get away with killing his ex-bitch and then get caught in armed robbery?  WTF??

[Emerald Rocker]

This... I love it!!  I always felt that bitch deserved what she got.  And hell yeah I think OJ did it.  Too bad he was too damn stupid to stay out of prison for too long tho..  Damn, get away with killing his ex-bitch and then get caught in armed robbery?  WTF??

You actually think Nicole Brown Simpson deserved to be gruesomely murdered?   Wow.  Even if that's supposed to be a sick joke, it's not funny.

That does it.  You're banned from my raffles.

[Bernie]

Who gives a shit?

[PCEngineHell]

That does it.  You're banned from my raffles.

And when you do one that isn't just a mock one cluttering up the sales area asking for free stuff let me know.

[RegalSin]

Nicole went to Prison? anybody could have done it. The biggest problem, with the whole OJ thing, was him running away. I remember the chase was on television, all day long, nothing but ' hey lets get this black man, he had do something wrong. It was probably entertainment for negative people. Just nothing but a white truck, on television all day long. He was also caught for stealing cable television. Their was two people that was dead that night, as well. Everybody just rode his business like the worlds greatest joke.

[Emerald Rocker]

RegalSin, I don't understand your post.  Just to be safe, you're banned from my raffles, too.

[Bernie]

RegalSin, I don't understand your post.  Just to be safe, you're banned from my raffles, too.

Lol.  Nobody ever understands what regal is saying!

[PCEngineHell]

I find it ironic that at the end of it all concerning the pedo mess, Regal comes in to post his two cents, and its not about MJ. 

[RegalSin]

We were talking about Jackson, and then somebody mention the media about him.
All of that mess up till his pill popping sleep case. They found nothing but

RegalSin, I don't understand your post.  Just to be safe, you're banned from my raffles, too.

I was talking about about back in the 1990's it was on television all day long. Entertainment for racist people is what I called it. Around late 1990, a man
in Texas was dragged from a truck. Same thing basically, but we are talking about
mass media coverage, I am sure it is up on boobtube.

[Sparky]

Fuck off regal no one cares..

I go on holidays and come back to catch up ... Bernie is a good guy and my first impressions of xray are the same, this mj shit train got out of control way to fast... And tensions got high over this guy? Come on guys.... Michael Fucking Jaskson.... Save it for gougers or assholes like Swiss, you 2 should just hug it out and Bernie did try to cool the jets some but i think at the time anger was still there so i think a couple Pms to each other would end this.
(( shrugs as who the fuck am I to say But my 2 cents))

& Dirty Diana is a great song by the Jackson