Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign

[Xray]

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[Sadler]

SNIP

I have the equipment, material and expertise to crank out a professional looking product at a reasonable price - You don't.

Hey man, I really like your signs and plan on ordering one after payday. Having said that, you might want to tone down this last part. I don't know if Ark has the ability to crank out a similar sign or not, but he most certainly has made professional looking products before—he's one of maybe a handful of people to actually release a homebrew game for the TG and I assure you it's quite professional.

Anyway, like I said, not a knock on you or your work. What you've done is truly amazing and I can't wait to have one!

[Xray]

SNIP

I have the equipment, material and expertise to crank out a professional looking product at a reasonable price - You don't.

Hey man, I really like your signs and plan on ordering one after payday. Having said that, you might want to tone down this last part. I don't know if Ark has the ability to crank out a similar sign or not, but he most certainly has made professional looking products before—he's one of maybe a handful of people to actually release a homebrew game for the TG and I assure you it's quite professional.

Anyway, like I said, not a knock on you or your work. What you've done is truly amazing and I can't wait to have one!

You are right, wasn't meaning to toot my own horn, or demean the creative abilities of others.
I am talking about acrylic edge lit in particular though, and as far as that goes, from what he said its easy to tell that he doesn't have the equipment, material or expertise to crank out a professional looking product at a reasonable price .. Else he wouldn't have been talking about simply spray painting a dayglo stencil on a piece of plexiglass.
When you are talking with someone who has experience in a field that you are knowledgeable in, its easy to tell - But thats not to say I'm the #1 go to guy in the USA for edge lit signs, I'm still learning, and enjoying it.
I'm always interested to hear what others are into, I admire anything creative.

[BlueBMW]

Having done CNC machining myself.  I understand the effort and expense that goes into it.  Experienced CNC operators are well paid for a reason.  Its high precision work that has very high costs when failures occur.  What xray is making here is fantastic IMO.  A neat unique piece of retro decor

[roflmao]

Thanks for offering these to the community for an affordable price!  Even though I've ordered a couple, I still hope I win that raffle.

[wilykat]

Any chance of a fluorescent colored plexi?  Engrave it. slap a black lite on the edge, the letters should glow.

[Xray]

Not sure what "fluorescent colored" would be ??
They do make plexi in a variety of tints, might be hard/expensive to get ahold of.
I have a plexi shop around me thats about a 40 mile round trip, worth it if I was to get a whole sheet of it, but not for a little chunk. Ordering online, I'd get raped by shipping. So while I generally could cut into anything for custom work, the buyer would have to foot the costs.

A couple folks have asked, to clarify, I have 3 prototypes left for $25 each shipped.
The 2 painted ones, and the TG logo outline one.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Fluorescent as in DayGlo, as in UV reactant jive.

Like what I said I would do.

[Xray]

Fluorescent as in DayGlo, as in UV reactant jive.

Like what I said I would do.

No, he said "engrave it", you had in mind painting a stencil, big difference.
Your idea could be cool in its own right, if you can find a way to avoid paint bleed - Post a pic if you ever get around to it.

I do have a large chunk of 1/4" smoked plexi, people use it as a sun reducer in windows on patios ect. Not sure if it would lend itself well to edge lighting, I'm doubting it.
I also have some pure white, would look great with a normal front engraving, and the design filled in with epoxy paint ,, That would be somewhat of a project though.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Yeah, engraved fluorescent plexiglass crap.    They make that.



It's really easy to avoid paint bleeding with stencils.  You just use thick cardboard and tape it down securely.   

[Xray]

No, it is not really easy.
We are not talking about stenciling something on a bathroom wall here. The slightest imperfection on plexi will stand out like a hairy green zit on a tit.
Cutting out the design by hand in thick cardboard ? You are almost guaranteed to have wavy lines, and a fuzzy edge which will absorb paint, and transfer it to the plexi. Things like this are done via silkscreen, or cut out sticky vinyl.

Prove me wrong, and post a pic !

[FiftyQuid]

You know you're feeding these guys right?  I'm pretty sure Arkhan is joking with you.

[Xray]

Maybe so.
If he is or not, its a valid idea ,,,, But easier to talk about than produce.

[CGQuarterly]

Xray is going to start ignoring Arkhan, soon.  He's getting too lippy.

Chris

[Xray]

You are like a bad case of diarrhea jabba, keeps running n running !
Any other threads you can lamely troll ?

[PCEngineHell]

Xray is going to start ignoring Arkhan, soon.  He's getting too lippy.

Chris

You mean ignore and yet not ignore, because contradiction is the order of the day. All part of the path of the high road.

[CGQuarterly]

You are like a bad case of diarrhea jabba, keeps running n running !
Any other threads you can lamely troll ?

Sounds like it's time to change your tampon.  While you're at it, stick one in both holes.

Chris

[Drakon]

I fail to see why xray got annoyed by that post.  I guess I'm missing something here.

Xray is going to start ignoring Arkhan, soon.  He's getting too lippy.

Chris

You are like a bad case of diarrhea jabba, keeps running n running !
Any other threads you can lamely troll ?

[CGQuarterly]

He doesn't like having his oversensitivity pointed out to him, I guess.

This must be his first time around with the internets.

Chris

[Xray]

These 2 peons are forum trolls, vying with each other who can come up with the cleverest 1 liners.
Even with me not directly replying to them, they simply do not have the ability to resist.
On the + side, they keep bumping my thread, which may result in more sales [have sold 9 so far, including a custom 10x8].

[PCEngineHell]

Even with me not directly replying to them

You are like a bad case of diarrhea jabba, keeps running n running !
Any other threads you can lamely troll ?

You mean ignore and yet not ignore, because contradiction is the order of the day. All part of the path of the high road.

[Drakon]

Huh.  Doesn't seem like trolling to me when you compare them to other forums out there.

These 2 peons are forum trolls, vying with each other who can come up with the cleverest 1 liners.
Even with me not directly replying to them, they simply do not have the ability to resist.
On the + side, they keep bumping my thread, which may result in more sales [have sold 9 so far, including a custom 10x8].

[CGQuarterly]

We're definitely not "vying with each other".  It's more of a team effort.  I can't speak for the professor, but I only do it because it's hypocritical for you to treat us like "trolls" while acting the way you do, considering some of the low-blow things you've said to people.  Also, you obviously have a stick wedged up your butt.  If someone starts flaming me on the forums, I just laugh right along with them.  If someone told me to choke on a bag of cocks, I would just chuckle and move on.  But you have to address every comment, and that just keeps us going.

BUT, since you have a cool product there that's only tainted by your own shitty attitude...

FREE BUMP!  Buy a sign from this guy!

Chris

[Drakon]

Like all you said was he's going to start ignoring someone else because he's getting too lippy.  Then in response he compares you to nonstop sh#t.  I'm new to this whole ordeal but from just what I've seen so far I think that repsonse to jibbajaba seems uncalled for.  I probably missed a lot of other stuff.

[CGQuarterly]

This is what Xray doesn't understand.  I'm the diarrhea, but he's the undercooked chicken.  It takes two to tango. 

Chris

[Emerald Rocker]

The part of the story that you might have missed is how JibbaJabba has been stalking him across multiple threads on the forum, like a persistent case of bad diarrhea.

Like all you said was he's going to start ignoring someone else because he's getting too lippy.  Then in response he compares you to nonstop sh#t.  I'm new to this whole ordeal but from just what I've seen so far I think that repsonse to jibbajaba seems uncalled for.  I probably missed a lot of other stuff.

[CGQuarterly]

It's not "multiple threads", it's this one and his raffle thread, and he popped his head into my latest raffle thread to leave a comment.  So again, it takes two to tango. 

Chris

[VestCunt]

Xray is doing cool stuff with the signs. If you've got beef there's a thread devoted to him in Fighting Street. I sling more mud around here than I should, but I hate to see productive topics cluttered with personal vendettas.

[Xray]

Lol thanks VestCunt ... There are actually 2 threads about me, posted by the usual 2 obsessed suspects.

This thread could certainly use a good cleansing, shame that off topic banter and petty forum vendettas are allowed to intrude on "productive topics", to steal a phrase from you.

[FiftyQuid]

I'm still thinking of buying.  None of this has deterred me.

[Xray]

No time limit on these Fifty, I could produce one next month just as well as tomorrow.
My limiting factor is plexi, I have a decent stock, but have other projects with it going on. When and if I have to get another sheet, I'll probably go with 1/4, which looks just as nice, and is cheaper and easier to cut.

[PCEngineHell]

Lol thanks VestCunt... There are actually 2 threads about me, posted by the usual 2 obsessed suspects.

This thread could certainly use a good cleansing, shame that off topic banter and petty forum vendettas are allowed to intrude on "productive topics", to steal a phrase from you.

Hypocrite much? 
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12981.msg255790#msg255790

Sign me up jabber, I'll donate all the proceeds to abused retards !

[Drakon]

Considering I don't really know either of these guys.  Seeing Xray sort of "lose it" a little in his own thread may make it harder for people to trust buying from him.  If there's beef, why not keep the retarded stuff in pm?

[PCEngineHell]

Care to explain just how much of a racist piece of crap you are Xray? Are you one of those all out racist, or are you a closet racist who only believes in white power from behind anonymous forum ids on racist forums?
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12979.msg256394#msg256394

[FiftyQuid]

Care to explain just how much of a racist piece of crap you are Xray? Are you one of those all out racist, or are you a closet racist who only believes in white power from behind anonymous forum ids on racist forums?
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12979.msg256394#msg256394

And with that, I'm out of here - permanently.

[Drakon]

Care to explain just how much of a racist piece of crap you are Xray? Are you one of those all out racist, or are you a closet racist who only believes in white power from behind anonymous forum ids on racist forums?
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12979.msg256394#msg256394

At first I thought it was a joke.  But it seems that's seriously his desktop and xray doesn't deny it.  Uhm....wow....that's just gross.

[esteban]

WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE?

And, what the fuck happened to our (usually) non-evil forums?

You see, I know the world is ugly and evil. That's why I try to spend some free time talking about goofy shit like video games.

OK, I'm grabbing a coffee and hoping that the rest of the threads here haven't grown thorns that drip poison. Wish me luck...

[turboswimbz]

WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE?

And, what the fuck happened to our (usually) non-evil forums?

You see, I know the world is ugly and evil. That's why I try to spend some free time talking about goofy shit like video games.

OK, I'm grabbing a coffee and hoping that the rest of the threads here haven't grown thorns that drip poison. Wish me luck...

Much luck, Very Much luck my friend, if anyone can bring peace and harmony to the forums it is you!

[NightWolve]

Well, this has certainly gotten interesting when it comes to our fairly new resident character-assassin, XRay... It's much worse than we thought! Let's try to take it from the top, shall we?

* XRay, who showed up not more than a month ago, gets into a flame war with Bernie/Arkhan/Professor (mainly) in the Michael Jackson thread where he eventually accuses them -- and effectively anyone else who believes in the possibility/plausibility of Michael Jackson's innocence -- of being boy-loving, ass-shoving pedophiles themselves and/or sympathizers!!! How's THAT for a first impression ????

* Bernie reaches out to bury the hatchet which appears to happen, but XRay's arrogance (and extremism) with regard to the original argument reveals itself again with his last sentence in that thread: "Now I'm just waiting for a "Was Hitler really such a bad guy" thread to really get things going !"

* That sarcastic comment prompted tggodfrey to create a new thread called "Hitler....villian or victem". Sure enough, his prediction about "really getting things going" would come to pass, but not in his favor!!

* XRay couldn't help but monitor that thread knowing that his comment inspired its creation and inside he eventually found criticism by me and eventually others. Well, suffice to say, the little darling did not approve of further criticism for what happened in the Michael Jackson thread and basically sought to deter it by demonstrating more of his very intimidating flaming prowess to us...

* Long story short, the thread was locked and Professor starting doing some minor investigative work on ole XRay given how "popular" he's become around here given the above as well as for these TG-16 lit signs of his that many people want...

Note: The first pieces of evidence come from XRay's own blunder of posting an image of his desktop and the last 2 come from Professor's further digging into the guy's background by finding his ebay and photobucket accounts.

Exhibit A - Nazi Jet with swastikas on both wings

Source:

(Preserved in case he makes it disappear! Notice XRay the XGay needs a daily flood of hetero in his face to prevent another relapse! Heh-heh! He says he's a father of 5, so it doesn't bother him his kids or his woman might see that desktop...)




Exhibit B - A flag with a SS Bolt in the middle - some kind of Nazi-type either way, I am not sure!



The SS superseded the SA!


Exhibit C - An ebay listing of his selling a sign of the Nazi SA Insignia!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/German-SA-insignia-1-2-inch-clear-acrylic-not-WW2-Nazi-era-Edge-lit-sign-/
Ebay Account: http://myworld.ebay.com/xraywolf.69/?_trksid=p4340.l2559




The Nazi SA was what brought Hitler to power in Germany and later it had to be purged because it was too violent and independent, etc.

http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/Sturmabteilung.asp

For what reason would you want the symbol of this dark part of history to live on, let alone try to profit off of it ?? C'mon people, look at the whole picture with this bastard!!!!!!!


Exhibit D - A highly offensive/disgusting racist animated GIF of Michelle Obama transforming into a monkey!

The actual link to his photobucket account is here for verification. For those of you that don't know, Michelle is the wife of the current president of the United States (And no, RegalSin, you stupid fuck, this wasn't Condi Rice!)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Xraywolf/222/mob.gif - "Chimp" racism morphing found on chimpout.com, a complete racist site!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Xraywolf/222/1-13.jpg - ACCOUNT MATCH TO HIS TG-16 SIGN!!



I've only attached a picture in case he decides to start making evidence disappear and I don't want it animating in the thread. Basically, the GIF takes Michelle's image and morphs it into the monkey seen here. You get the idea!


So, ask yourself the following question, ladies and gentlemen, is this a guy who you want to be doing business with ??? Is it ???? To borrow Jibbajaba's wit, do you really wanna buy a TG-16 sign made off the very same machine that was used to create Nazi SA Insignia signs by a racist/extremist asshole that went as far as slandering fellow board members as pedophiles and/or sympathizers?

I think the answer is clear!

Not that anyone cares, but after seeing the evidence I am no longer considering a purchase and won't be visiting this thread (or any by Xray) again.

Nonsense! You made the right decision! This freak should NOT be getting ANYBODY'S business!

[Drakon]

I'm glad people are posting about xray I think all potential buyers should know who they're doing business with.  I had a client try to make a paypal claim against me without contacting me first.  Then he threatened legal action against me over 100$.  I did a google search on this guy and found his deviantart account full of just....disturbing hand drawn girl pictures.

[CGQuarterly]

In case anyone needs further evidence of what we're dealing with, here's some new information that I've found. 

Xray has the following image on his photobucket account:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Xraywolf/gods.jpg

The only place on the internet where this image was used was in a thread on chimpout posted by a guy named "Shonuff".  Now, either Xray put this image in his photobucket account and never personally used it, or Xray = Shonuff.

Here are some other things posted under the handle "Shonuff".  This is just a small sampling.  Again, Xray may or may not be the same person.

http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?82394-Without-abortion-nigger-infestation-would-be-much-worse
http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?80827-Nigger-mouth-bling-for-sale-by-Nashville-cops
http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?77655-McDonalds-black-only-web-site

Here's one of his photobucket pics being used in a thread about the Trayvon Martin shooting, although ostensibly he isn't actually involved in the conversation.

http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?253077-I-need-your-help-guys-and-girls!

If nothing else, this suggests the kind of circles that this guy runs in.  I'm pretty sure that none of the images I have posted on the net are being used in racist/white supremacist forums, and I'm definitely not selling Nazi-related signage on eBay.

Chris

[JoshTurboTrollX]

WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE?

And, what the fuck happened to our (usually) non-evil forums?

You see, I know the world is ugly and evil. That's why I try to spend some free time talking about goofy shit like video games.

shouldn't be completely shocking seeing how this garbage juice surrounds the usual same suspect.  frozenintears, then Swiss, then fenix, now this guy, seems that these disagreements or even arguments would maybe go on for a day or two, but with the crazy trolling powers turned up to 5000 we get unneeded posts, derailed threads and name calling all over the place.

Thanks Mike.

[VestCunt]

Hmmm...just saw the link to his SA signs on ebay. Not cool. Move along, Xray!

[SMF]

Granted his signs are pretty cool, But I would much rather give my money to someone who's life isn't filled with hate for someone cause they have different skin.

Newsflash Xray if it wasn't for people of different color you wouldn't be ejoying the finer things in life. Time for you to move on now.

[HercTNT]

WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE?

And, what the fuck happened to our (usually) non-evil forums?

You see, I know the world is ugly and evil. That's why I try to spend some free time talking about goofy shit like video games.

shouldn't be completely shocking seeing how this garbage juice surrounds the usual same suspect.  frozenintears, then Swiss, then fenix, now this guy, seems that these disagreements or even arguments would maybe go on for a day or two, but with the crazy trolling powers turned up to 5000 we get unneeded posts, derailed threads and name calling all over the place.

Thanks Mike.

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WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE?

And, what the fuck happened to our (usually) non-evil forums?

You see, I know the world is ugly and evil. That's why I try to spend some free time talking about goofy shit like video games.

shouldn't be completely shocking seeing how this garbage juice surrounds the usual same suspect.  frozenintears, then Swiss, then fenix, now this guy, seems that these disagreements or even arguments would maybe go on for a day or two, but with the crazy trolling powers turned up to 5000 we get unneeded posts, derailed threads and name calling all over the place.

Thanks Mike.

This is a painfully shortsighted comment. even if you don't agree with his methods he is far from  being the only person to call out the people you have named above. More importantly, to many people were dazzled by a lighted piece of plastic , to pay attention to what happened to bernie. If not for mike would this guy be getting his? If he were not selling said piece of plastic, everybody would be in fighting street right now having a field day on him would they not? laying it all on mike despite the participation of many other members including me is being painfully selective. just my two cents.

[PCEngineHell]

WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE?

And, what the fuck happened to our (usually) non-evil forums?

You see, I know the world is ugly and evil. That's why I try to spend some free time talking about goofy shit like video games.

shouldn't be completely shocking seeing how this garbage juice surrounds the usual same suspect.  frozenintears, then Swiss, then fenix, now this guy, seems that these disagreements or even arguments would maybe go on for a day or two, but with the crazy trolling powers turned up to 5000 we get unneeded posts, derailed threads and name calling all over the place.

Thanks Mike.

Yeah, you're totally right, totally my fault that Nintega decided to keep trolling the place and its members both here and on youtube well after I left, or that Swiss, who I had not even heard of until just recently, decided to stick around and change his name to Canada, where as I was then finally explained the situation surrounding him. Yeah, all totally my fault. Its probably also my fault that you only posted less then 100 times since joining late last year, or that Demonoid was shut down, or why many cola companies abandoned sugar cane in favor of corn syrup cola. All the actions of others are all totally my fault. True story. 

[CGQuarterly]

Not sure where that comment even came from.  It's not professor's fault that we've had a recent influx of undesirables.  And I agree with Herc.  Too many people were blinded by sparkly signs.  The minute that guy got into it with Bernie, he should have been out on his ass.  I guess "the line" is somewhere in between disrespecting Bernie, and hating black people.  I guess I'm glad that the line lies to the left of the hatred, but I wish it were also to the left of flaming long-time respected members.

Chris

[VestCunt]

shouldn't be completely shocking seeing how this garbage juice surrounds the usual same suspect.  frozenintears, then Swiss, then fenix, now this guy, seems that these disagreements or even arguments would maybe go on for a day or two, but with the crazy trolling powers turned up to 5000 we get unneeded posts, derailed threads and name calling all over the place.

Thanks Mike.

Boy did you pick some bad examples. I don't remember what the deal with Fenix was, but Frozenintears/Nintega is a racist, death-threat-sending psychopath stalker; Canada is a gouger, a profiteer, and a liar using multiple PCEFX and ebay accounts for various shenanigans; and Xray is, at best, a Nazi sympathizer. This forum is basically moderated and without members denouncing these scumbags people would be doing business with them. Professorson definitely goes where the action is and, IMO, has been a little quick to pounce on some noobs in the past, but I don't read every post in Fighting Street and without him "derailing" this thread I probably would have bought a sign from Xray. My German great-Grandfather was dragged off and killed by the Gestapo for using a little too much freedom of speech in his newspaper and I have no tolerance for this BS. Sure, the Nazi's had some aesthetic sensibilities when designing their propaganda, but anyone reproducing or idolizing the symbolism of mass murderers is an idiot and it's important for them to know exactly how small their racist, intolerant world is.

[Drakon]

Don't they hate on asians too?  And brown people?  And anyone who's....not white and pasty?

Not sure where that comment even came from.  It's not professor's fault that we've had a recent influx of undesirables.  And I agree with Herc.  Too many people were blinded by sparkly signs.  The minute that guy got into it with Bernie, he should have been out on his ass.  I guess "the line" is somewhere in between disrespecting Bernie, and hating black people.  I guess I'm glad that the line lies to the left of the hatred, but I wish it were also to the left of flaming long-time respected members.

Chris

[Xray]

Wow, you guys are literally nutting all over each other over this - I'd bet 10 to 1 that the majority of you still live with your mothers, no question about it.
Shouldn't expect anything more from Michael Jackson admirers.

As far as ideology,  I'm not an absolutist, as most of you haters apparently fancy yourselves. I'm sure there are some things in the Nazi "platform", that I'd agree with, others, not. Can't say I ever studied it [believe it or not!]
I do designs that I think are attractive, and that have the potential to sell. As stated, I'd have no prob doing a star of David [what would uncle Adolph have thought of that??] I have done islamic things for muslims such as "God is Great!" and the crescent moon & star.
I've done Glock logos for guys into guns, and I am attracted to designs which I think look nice. No question about it, German designs are nice - And it might interest you bleeding heart wussies to know that alot of jews are into Nazi collecting.

Most of you I'm sure are painfully uncreative, and couldn't come up with something nice that you designed and made yourself to save your lives ,, So you wouldn't have a good grasp about developing an eye for designs that have potential. Prof, for instance - Spends the majority of his life posting on gaming/computer forums ,, About the next great motherboard ! Or the best way to utilize 4gb of RAM ect. Wow, thats exciting ! I'd love to see a guy like this honestly post his life experiences and employment history. I know I'd laugh my ass off, get bored to tears after 3 paragraphs, then actually feel sorry for anyone who chooses to lead such a pathetic existence.

But enough of all that, you guys are on a roll and are probably having the most excitement you've had all summer, so I'll let you get back to that uninterrupted.
Prof & NightFag have probably splooged all over their keyboards half a dozen times this past 24 hours.
I have sold a dozen + signs, everyone that has bought so far has been more than content .. Don't want one cause I'm an evil guy that likes white chicks & German designs ?
Keep your $$, I'll keep my signs, simple. Unlike the majority of you, I have a life and a job, these are barely even worth my while to do.