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Who invented the term platformer.

Started by RegalSin, 10/02/2012, 01:27 PM

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RegalSin

QuoteThe first is all platforming.
For it to be a platformer, it would consist of jumping on enemies, and collecting rocks.

I know where the terms

Action RPG ( what I call J-rpg  ( what I also call adventure ).
Comic Adventure ( even Graphic Adventure =; ](*,) :roll: :roll: :roll: )
RPG
Point and click ( which is really just comic adventure/

I just want to know where did this term sprung up/. platformer?

So far what I understand, is a videogame, where you can jump and collect rocks, and maybe have a boss to fight that requires three or six hits. Basically when we have no RPG elements, and the game repeats itself over and over again with tasks, to keep the fun going. I think that sums it up for me.

What I believe as with the Indian Jones effect. People wanted  an Action, or Adventure game that is completely lacking violence whatsoever, and is still fun, So in the west we created meaningless but fun creations called platformers ).


For example

QuoteEarthworm Jim?

Action game because you can move him around but plays out like an J-RPG because the situation Jim is in.
Adventure Game because you guid Jim threw a bunch of levels.
QuoteJ-rpg because he weilds a sword, or fire ball and shops at stores.
Platformer because he jumps up.

My problem is that when we create something and the world is lacking and is just a bunch of goofy sounds, and
make a no sense, we call it a platformer, but seriously it just limit us, because of jumping.

Like Wonder Boy/Adventure Island for example, started out as an Arcade game that in fact turned into an J-rpg.

Of course we have dangerous dave, oh look a jetpack oh look a gun, big spider kill splat.

Just somethng that I had to run off the top of my skull. I call em all J-RPGs, just to remind that when Falcom made the knight started to move around inside in a FPS box, they changed history alongside that other game,
nobody wants to think about, because it is just too cruel to play and finish.
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NecroPhile

The name evolved from the genre's first game designer/programmer, Pat Fawrmir.  Duh.
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bob

If earthworm jim is a j-rpg, then is splatterhouse a sports game? He swings the 2x4 like a bat.

Gogan

A platformer consists of platforms. I think common sense invented the term.
Nothin beats the real thing.

xcrement5x

Quote from: Gogan on 10/02/2012, 03:25 PMA platformer consists of platforms. I think common sense invented the term.
I don't know what this wasn't the first response to this thread, though NecroPhile does get bonus points for ingenuity. 

It's also probably one of the easiest concepts to execute in a 2D manner for games since you just go/up and left/right to work your way through a level.  The thing I personally like a lot about platformers though is that the level design can make or break them, so a developer putting effort into the details normally pays off on a platforming game.
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bob

Whoa, slow down fellahs...are people really answering him?

RegalSin

But arent those things part of the enviorment itself? I mean seriously, lets be real, I mean seriously

tram
elevator,
wire
fence
etc
are all enviormental things, meaning this genre is is basically saying, if the character jumps up and down and moves around with things in the eniviorment, it must be a platformer.

You know I what I called those games? Mini-games or to be more correct, Arcade games.
Because these are the type of games that only exsist inside an arcade itself. Am I right?

Only on a videogame system/or computer gaming machine, you will find adventure games where you move all over the level jumping to the next stage, but apparently these are also known as action games,

But I just call them J-rpg because apparently in the west, videogames have not evolved past,
that Fox walking on roof tops avoiding centurians.  I mean seriously, Shantae, and many other Wayfoward games, and Kirby is the result of the Japanese pulling the RPG, and then somebody being smart enough to put normal everyday items in that world. I could be wrong and these action games are just sophsticated beat em ups.............Megaman Zero

Imagine this, when was the last time a western action/adventure/platformer game was actually cool before 1999? It just seems that the comiverse of Japan, melted into the
videogames, and out pop these delightfull treats,

Back in the land of the Maddona, we have either killer sprees called FPS or Point and click games ( comic adventures ).

Quote from: guest on 10/02/2012, 01:55 PMThe name evolved from the genre's first game designer/programmer, Pat Fawrmir.  Duh.
Just did a search, does not compute, not Pat Fawrmir.

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LostFlunky

Platforms are for game like Adol with tall shoes since he is little boy with fire heare.

NecroPhile

Quote from: guest on 10/02/2012, 03:39 PMI don't know what this wasn't the first response to this thread.
Stupid questions from stupid people do not deserve good, honest answers.
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I prefer games where ladies shoot fire out of their crotches.
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Gogan

Quote from: OldRover on 10/02/2012, 04:12 PMI prefer games where ladies shoot fire out of their crotches.
While wearing platforms, or else it's only a mini game
Nothin beats the real thing.

RegalSin

Me too,

Quote from: Lost Monkey on 10/02/2012, 03:59 PMPlatforms are for game like Adol with tall shoes since he is little boy with fire heare.
Uhmmmmmmmmm Adol is a young adult ( at least in the first game ) who ventures from land to land seeking adventure ( your standard DAD character ). Adol is a commercial spin-off from
Dragon Slayer along with Popful mail. At least we all know he scored big time in afenas dungeons.

Same thing with Link, In Zelda he was a young adul, around puberty ( meaning he was fully grown, ) and by Zelda II he was done, where he finally gets to score with the original Zelda.
However with OOT they decided to go further back into the past, with Link as a kid, Then they derailed the whole thing, with the mask bit ( fancy graphics and stuff but pointless ).
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Drakon

my first planned response is what NecroPhile posted.  My second planned response is what gogan posted.  D#mnit people here are too clever.
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RegalSin, you sure picked the right point to argue out of all that.
You're right. Adol is not a little boy. He's a young adult! Damn right!

Tatsujin

nobody invented it, it was already present.
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Drakon

Quote from: Tatsujin on 10/03/2012, 07:36 AMnobody invented it, it was already present.
We're talking about before it was present.
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TheClash603

There was a Canadian rapper named Snow who had a worldwide hit about Platformer.

LostFlunky

Platforming (fad)
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Not to be confused with Platforming (J-RPGs).


Platforming (or the Lying Down Game) is an activity consisting of lying face down —sometimes in an unusual or incongruous location. Both hands must touch the sides of the body.[1] Some players compete to find the most unusual and original location in which to play.[1] The term platforming refers to mimicking a wooden platform (J-RPG). Platforming can include lying flat on a flat surface, or holding the body flat while it's supported in only some regions, with other parts of the body suspended. Many participants in platforming have photographed the activity in unusual locations and have shared such pictures through social media.

tggodfrey

Truth.  My uncle Coined the term Platformer.  He was in charge of NEC marketing dept in 1990.  Didnt say anything till now becuase I dont feel like fielding all the questions.
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RegalSin

Sword of the Beserker is a J-rpg too.......... I do not see any wooden platforms. Yes you can jump in that game as well.
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Drakon

Just pointing out that your joke about it "already being present" wasn't very funny.

Quote from: Tatsujin on 10/03/2012, 08:27 AM
Quote from: Drakon on 10/03/2012, 07:45 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 10/03/2012, 07:36 AMnobody invented it, it was already present.
We're talking about before it was present.
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kazekirifx

Are there any action RPG's that aren't J-RPG's?

LostFlunky


Tatsujin

Quote from: Drakon on 10/03/2012, 08:10 PMJust pointing out that your joke about it "already being present" wasn't very funny.
Sorry for that, still working on my clown degree.
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