You dont get off that easy Darkkobold

PCEngineHell · 12/29/2012, 02:38 AM

Nice of you to lock that thread after being busted for your bullshit. Also like to point out, the items you want, the protos, those are probably worth quite a bit more to the right buyer then the super System card is, so that's another part you lied to him about, underscoring the value of stuff you happened to be interested in.

continued from:
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13852.0

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/15e527/my_massive_turbo_grafx_16_haul_today_from_a/

CGQuarterly · 12/29/2012, 02:44 AM

Good. I was actually going to post a thread in here about DK being a hairy vagina.

Chris

SignOfZeta · 12/29/2012, 05:13 AM

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 12/29/2012, 02:38 AMNice of you to lock that thread after being busted for your bullshit.

Yeah, because you've never done that.

PCEngineHell · 12/29/2012, 05:25 AM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/29/2012, 05:13 AM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 12/29/2012, 02:38 AMNice of you to lock that thread after being busted for your bullshit.
Yeah, because you've never done that.

You're right, I totally go around other forums trying to sucker people out of their stuff, link to it here, and lock the thread after I get caught. Totally... Btw, hows Riddler and Penguin doing these days Joker?

edit: Holy crap Joker, look at all the horrible threads I locked this year. I guess on 4 out of 5 of these threads I should have just left them open after stuff had sold or been moved to ebay huh? I guess that 5th one should have just been left open too just for the sake of it right, regardless of whether or not other said party who owned said Duo needed it to be or not? Just because? All these like totally needed moar and moar pointless post huh? Hell, why not, right? I should just jump back in all these right now and unlock them, because I know you just cant wait to add high caliber, compelling and informative content to them.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12488.0

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13054.0

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12251.0

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13039.15

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13740.15

I meant to ask Joker, other then being critical of others purchases (Nat's Might and Magic 3 buy), ragging on me for complaining, then plagiarizing my said complaints about Red Frog on your lame pod cast, and spending basically 5 years or so as a verbal punching bag for myself, Sini, and a few others, what do you actually do around here? What do you actually bring to the table? What is your long term goal? While I was away, did you do anything amazing around here with your time in either the for sale sections, mod section, etc? Did you bring any really important info or content to the forum during my off time, or did you just wait around for a couple years sucking your own dick while you waited for me or Sini to get back so you could do some more forum stalking (similar to the Joker plotting his long sought after revenge on Batman)? Also, are you still passing off my post as your own words on your podcast? Just curious....

VestCunt · 12/31/2012, 02:26 PM

Hoodwinking noobs aside, his last word before the lock was pretty funny:

Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 12/29/2012, 10:03 PMThis is what I get for trying to generate some Original Content here.

The "original content" being a link to another forum.

bob · 12/31/2012, 04:52 PM

My lord, you guys really beat the crap out of DK around here. Does this stem from some specific event that I must have missed?
Everytime the guy posts, people are on him like flies on shit. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just curious.
I don't want to be the kid on the playground that isn't in on the joke.

PukeSter · 12/31/2012, 05:45 PM

Quote from: galam on 12/31/2012, 04:52 PMMy lord, you guys really beat the crap out of DK around here. Does this stem from some specific event that I must have missed?
Everytime the guy posts, people are on him like flies on shit. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just curious.
I don't want to be the kid on the playground that isn't in on the joke.

I'm not sure about what is going on too, but nobody beat the crap out of him on my Game & Watch thread.

That thread was just reliving memories.

PCEngineHell · 01/01/2013, 12:16 AM

Quote from: guest on 12/31/2012, 09:11 PM
Quote from: galam on 12/31/2012, 04:52 PMMy lord, you guys really beat the crap out of DK around here. Does this stem from some specific event that I must have missed?
Everytime the guy posts, people are on him like flies on shit. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just curious.
I don't want to be the kid on the playground that isn't in on the joke.
I think it stems from his posts in the big eBay gouging thread. There have been times when he defended sellers who didn't appear to really be gouging... Defended isn't the right word. Really he just pointed out some cases where it looked like people were jumping to conclusions and that auction prices were legitimately high. This landed him on the "Fuck EBay Club" shit list. Which is somewhat ironic because now he's getting reamed for not accurately quoting eBay's going prices to that guy in the Reddit post. I don't personally think he did anything wrong intentionally, but I'm in the minority of people around here who get along with DK and tend to share his POV on some things.

I probably risk getting flamed for saying that, but its OK. Professorson doesn't have to like me for me to use his TG mod guides. (: im trying to stay off of the shit lists on this site since many of the reagulars seem like people I'd enjoy having a beer with when they're not assaulting me, but wanted to offer you one ex-lurker's perspective on why DK gets picked on. im sure everyone has their own reasons and perspectives.

In other news, I'm curious how good (or bad) TV sports baseball would have been. Too bad it wasn't the Bonk RPG prototype in that lot... Really would love to see that one surface!

Ehh....ummm yeah....

If you'd check before posting you'd actually see I don't post too much in the ebay threads, just now and then, and am not a member of the fuck ebay club, and that was not the issue here, for me anyway. The issue, in my case, and in many others you will find out, was the fact the guy was basically going to make an attempt to rip some guy off. For one, he really shouldn't have been trying to make offers on the stuff to begin with. The guy just got the stuff and from jump street he is being assaulted with offers by Dk when he should be allowed some peace so he can enjoy his new library of games. People don't always post their lucky finds just to make money. Some actually want to share info on what they got and are excited to say what they found and plan to keep and enjoy their find. The worst aspect of it is that DK was telling him his most valuable piece was the Super system card, more valuable then the TG CD combo, and more valuable then the protos the guy had obtained that Dk just happened to be making a play for. It was most definitely not worth more then the TG-CD combo for one, and def not worth more then the protos, at all. Prototypes, depending on the game, tend to fetch past $500 on up into the thousands.

And with all of that he was also lying to the guy about how useful his Super System Card was, and told him he only had one game that needed it when he in fact had 4. He also evidently did not care to mention that cd games are region free and are very cheap in many cases, so the guy has a huge opportunity to expand his library with imports. The final nail in the coffin was not mentioning this forum and extending a invite. The reasons for that are fairly obvious, why would you want the guy coming here and finding out his proto stuff is worth quite a bit more then you plan to offer. In the end Dk's entire activity on that post was just sleazy, and evidently he is known for this sort of thing, because other members were ragging on him there also. It's perfectly find to disagree, but please, before you form a opinion about someone, check into the facts of the situation first.

HercTNT · 01/01/2013, 01:16 AM

Quote from: guest on 12/31/2012, 09:11 PM
Quote from: galam on 12/31/2012, 04:52 PMMy lord, you guys really beat the crap out of DK around here. Does this stem from some specific event that I must have missed?
Everytime the guy posts, people are on him like flies on shit. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just curious.
I don't want to be the kid on the playground that isn't in on the joke.
I think it stems from his posts in the big eBay gouging thread. There have been times when he defended sellers who didn't appear to really be gouging... Defended isn't the right word. Really he just pointed out some cases where it looked like people were jumping to conclusions and that auction prices were legitimately high. This landed him on the "Fuck EBay Club" shit list. Which is somewhat ironic because now he's getting reamed for not accurately quoting eBay's going prices to that guy in the Reddit post. I don't personally think he did anything wrong intentionally, but I'm in the minority of people around here who get along with DK and tend to share his POV on some things.

I probably risk getting flamed for saying that, but its OK. Professorson doesn't have to like me for me to use his TG mod guides. (: im trying to stay off of the shit lists on this site since many of the reagulars seem like people I'd enjoy having a beer with when they're not assaulting me, but wanted to offer you one ex-lurker's perspective on why DK gets picked on. im sure everyone has their own reasons and perspectives.

In other news, I'm curious how good (or bad) TV sports baseball would have been. Too bad it wasn't the Bonk RPG prototype in that lot... Really would love to see that one surface!

Null, i don't know the guy either, and i have no interest in burying him. The fact is, he knows this stuff really well, and what he did is classic bait and switch in my opinion. He told the guy, his super system card 3 and games were mostly useless, then offered to buy. This is after the guy made it clear he was new and was not up on current events. I don't know Darkkobold past this one issue. Can I prove he's a bad guy, no. But, for as much as he does know, his way of handling the situation screams of trying to screw a noob. I have zero proof. Professor has been here for a long time and takes alot of shit for calling out asshats. People shit on him for doing so, but almost always wind up eating crow in the end as the professor is usually right. They wont admit it, but he is doing the forums a service. Like it our lump it, he is pretty good at weeding out the trash. Some people cross swords with him just for the sake of doing so, without caring about the issue at hand. everyone has a different opinion. my opinion is you, and others like you that have commented recently, have not been here nearly long enough to know the full story without reading up. Should not comment until you do. I have been here for only a year and i still don't know the bones of all of it. Just my two cents.

HercTNT · 01/01/2013, 01:29 AM

Nulltard, i'm not upset with you at all, and you have the right to disagree. its cool. its not my thread though. its the professors. i just happen to agree with him. all i'm saying is, read up on all that has happened, before you make an opinion on current events. i have zero reason to dislike darkkobold. I do however feel that his handling of the other person was shifty. I cannot speak for the professor, but i can tell you he has been very good at catching asshats. People like to shit all over him for speaking up, but he is rarely wrong.

DildoKKKobold · 01/01/2013, 01:31 AM

Quote from: HercTNT on 01/01/2013, 01:16 AMHe told the guy, his super system card 3 and games were mostly useless, then offered to buy.

Wow, you see, this is just pure misinformation. The order is wrong, first. Second, I wasn't even after any games or the super system card.

I offered to trade for some manuals, and jokingly asked to trade for the protos.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/15e527/my_massive_turbo_grafx_16_haul_today_from_a/c7mmtk8

He asked for some clarification on the SS3 card

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/15e527/my_massive_turbo_grafx_16_haul_today_from_a/c7mtlal

I responded on what it was, and noted that it was mostly worthless to him. It was an interesting juxtaposition, being the most monetarily valuable part of the haul, yet not very worthwhile to him (or at least I thought).

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/15e527/my_massive_turbo_grafx_16_haul_today_from_a/c7mtuhu

So, after I learned that he needed it, I posted this correction.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/15e527/my_massive_turbo_grafx_16_haul_today_from_a/c7nphs7

PP wanted to make me look like a dick, so he twisted it, and people like you ended up with the story you just told. I made NO OFFER on the SS3 that everyone is focused on. There was no bait-n-switch. I made no efforts to get any item listed, beyond that one post, of, hey, let me know.

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 01/01/2013, 12:16 AMand evidently he is known for this sort of thing, because other members were ragging on him there also.

Speaking of making bullshit up.... humanman42 is my buddy. I'm known in the IRC chat for making turbografx comments. He made a friendly joke, that I was excited about the turbo stuff. He just gave me a mod position in the IRC channel, I'm sure he must think I'm a TOTAL ASSHOLE!

Speaking of knowing the facts...

HercTNT · 01/01/2013, 01:42 AM

I read it for myself and formulated my own opinion. What i say has nothing to do with PP. You don't need to reference PP when speaking to me. I do not know you. I read you statements and have seen plenty of people in the past do similair things. I have zero proof you intended to rip the guy off. I do however based on how you worded your statements feel as though you were screwing the guy. Noone with your knowledge of turbo related items would ever tell someone that what they have is "mostly useless", especially considering the known value. If that is a mistake, its a pretty good one. It looks shifty. If its not, i'm sorry, but its hard to argue. Its my only critisicm of you. if i'm wrong, it will blow over and life will go on. i'm responding to nullities question. nothing more

DildoKKKobold · 01/01/2013, 01:52 AM

Quote from: HercTNT on 01/01/2013, 01:42 AMI read it for myself and formulated my own opinion. What i say has nothing to do with PP. You don't need to reference PP when speaking to me. I do not know you. I read you statements and have seen plenty of people in the past do similair things. I have zero proof you intended to rip the guy off. I do however based on how you worded your statements feel as though you were screwing the guy. Noone with your knowledge of turbo related items would ever tell someone that what they have is "mostly useless", especially considering the known value.

I'm sorry you feel this way. I did not intend to screw him (which should be evident, because I gave the honest price), and haven't even gone after the stuff beyond letting him know I was interested in his manuals. You can feel however you want.

Also (not directed at HercTNT), PP's initial reaction was eye-rolling sarcasm. Not a "Hey, you were wrong here, you should correct it." or a "Hey, you should invite him here." To vilify me further, he later adds all these things that I should have done, like tell him about importing. Oh wait, I have ZERO posts in the PCE part of the forum - maybe imports aren't ever on my mind.

Finally, PP could sign up for reddit, and invite him here. Oh wait, he's too busy taking a shit on everything I post. He doesn't like TASes, he'd better shit in that thread some more too! Or maybe he could sit here posting more reference to fellatio, like a mature adult.

With all these things I SHOULD be doing... why is he not doing them?

HercTNT · 01/01/2013, 01:56 AM

Fair enough, i have spoke my piece, it will blow over.

PCEngineHell · 01/01/2013, 03:43 AM

The simple fact remains that you told him the Super System card was worth more then the items you wanted to buy off him. No one said that you wanted to buy the Super system card, you just told him misinformation on its use and trumped up its value as opposed to the items you wanted. It was pointed out you focused attention on that items value as a method of downplaying the value of the actual items you wanted. You were quoted word for word. After being confronted abou tit you locked the thread. You cant deny it, your words were right there. You know it was bullshit. And also, why should I have to sign up there. You are already on there. Do you try to bait and switch everything and blame toss for your own actions or lack there of on a consistent basis? Is that your way of providing original content?

HercTNT · 01/01/2013, 04:15 AM

Quote from: guest on 01/01/2013, 01:59 AMHerc- just saw that you posted before my response to professorson got posted (edit: and again before thos oone... Damn slow phone keyboard) . I don't claim to know the full storied history of this board and it's patrons, but i really don't see how this translates into a reason to refrain from commenting. One of my first posts was made in the eBay thread and simply said that I agreed with DK about some auction not being gouging... Big mistake. The rest was history. I had a few conversations with DK after that and he just doesn't strike me as the villain it seems others believe he is. I don't see myself as a bad guy, either, yet I was called some pretty nasty things for no good reason. I guess my point is that sometimes mob mentality overrides other social mechanics, and he mob seems to be pretty critical of DK. I'm not trying to invalidate anyone's opinions of anyone... Come to think of it, I'm not here to hijack this thread either. So I'll put down the keyboard now and get out of the way. Back to DK & Reddit & such.

(Edit: and i see dk posted, too. He highlighted the bits of Reddit that stuck out to me that led me to post here in the prof's thread. Thanks for specifying that you're not upset, herc... I really want to get along with all the peeps here. I don't and wont always agree with or like everyone... But those aren't required for polite and respectful conversation. OK, I'm really putting down the keyboard now and getting out of the way.)

I really have no idea what your getting at here. your talking as if your under the spotlight and your not. its not about you, its about my opinion of one thing that kobold has done. You don't have to agree, but nowhere did i ever say, nor would i have the right to ask you to refrain from commenting. i only suggested you may want to learn more about whats going on before you do. How you handle it from here on out its your choice and your business.

blueraven · 01/01/2013, 06:17 PM

I think that the vast majority of flaming towards ProfessorProf. is bullshit, as just like in this case, he is simply following the paper-trail of asshattery and making the community hep to it. His intentions are solid, even if his delivery blasts you through a concrete wall at mach 2.

Quote from: guest on 01/01/2013, 05:27 AM(who had noticed that DK is frequently mobbed)

This isn't a unique thing, I have nothing against you personally. But, if you are a dickbag, you will be run out of here or have your reputation trashed. Plain and simple.

This is fighting street. It helps to have a helmet on. Welcome to PC Engine Hell.

PukeSter · 01/01/2013, 06:28 PM

No blueraven, this is PC Engine Hell.

http://home.comcast.net/~amakusa666/PC-ENGINE-HELL-main-page.htm

Sparky · 01/01/2013, 07:10 PM

Quote from: blueraven on 01/01/2013, 06:17 PMI think that the vast majority of flaming towards ProfessorProf. is bullshit, as just like in this case, he is simply following the paper-trail of asshattery and making the community hep to it. His intentions are solid, even if his delivery blasts you through a concrete wall at mach 2.

Haha, ya.. If your not honest person prof will sniff ya out...he has a "spidey sense" and it tingles

. I wish Prof/mike had not left a year or 2 ago for awhile, man there's a couple guys he would have sent crying to there big pillows

NightWolve · 01/09/2013, 03:22 PM

Quote from: galam on 12/31/2012, 04:52 PMMy lord, you guys really beat the crap out of DK around here. Does this stem from some specific event that I must have missed?
Everytime the guy posts, people are on him like flies on shit. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just curious.
I don't want to be the kid on the playground that isn't in on the joke.

He picked fights with NecroPhile, vestcunt, BlackTiger (who he renamed to BlackRambler) in our main Gouging thread and another pricing thread when he showed up. Vestcunt bothered him the most I guess, so then he made a Fighting Street thread in his name. Here's part of what you missed, I laid it out well enough and the list of insults he hurled at BlackTiger:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13371.msg265904#msg265904 (Old Rover wanted to break up the fight, though)

So yeah, he earned the hate by numerous people simultaneously like say Xray did. It's not "mob mentality." My theory about him is that he maintains an account to monitor that Gouging thread and wait for an opportunity to pounce on someone if they post a case that doesn't quite qualify as gouging so he can tell us all that we're too paranoid and generally wrong, etc. I think that most of his posts are just filler material, even the posts in the Gouging thread where he's going along with the theme of the thread and linking cases that qualify, etc.

In my view, he pretty much told us what his main purpose is around here:

Quote from: guest on 07/26/2012, 01:49 PM
Quote from: soop on 07/26/2012, 12:04 PMPeople who are going to pay way over the odds, thus justifying high prices and raising the general price for the rest of us
As an intro, I am far more active on reddit's r/gamecollecting. There, I try and combat this mentality with as much as I can. First of all, this idea is extremely selfish. A seller lists something on Ebay at a price he wants. Then, a buyer has the choice of buying it or waiting for a lower price. The buyer's decision is based on his or her personal discretionary income, desire for the item, and many other factors, none of which are your business. The idea that the price you want to pay should be factored into a buyers decision is just 100% pure self-interest.

In other words, he polices similar anti-gouging type threads/thinking at reddit by the same kind of heckling and harassing that he's done here. Like he said, he tries to "combat this mentality" with as much as he can...

Quote from: guest on 12/31/2012, 09:11 PMI think it stems from his posts in the big eBay gouging thread. There have been times when he defended sellers who didn't appear to really be gouging... Defended isn't the right word. Really he just pointed out some cases where it looked like people were jumping to conclusions and that auction prices were legitimately high. This landed him on the "Fuck EBay Club" shit list. Which is somewhat ironic because now he's getting reamed for not accurately quoting eBay's going prices to that guy in the Reddit post. I don't personally think he did anything wrong intentionally, but I'm in the minority of people around here who get along with DK and tend to share his POV on some things.

I probably risk getting flamed for saying that, but its OK. Professorson doesn't have to like me for me to use his TG mod guides. (: im trying to stay off of the shit lists on this site since many of the reagulars seem like people I'd enjoy having a beer with when they're not assaulting me, but wanted to offer you one ex-lurker's perspective on why DK gets picked on. im sure everyone has their own reasons and perspectives.

Wow... You sure minimized the entry that he made around here and even attempt to portray him as a poor little victim that gets "picked on." I was thinking you were possibly friends before this board - It seemed odd/unusual to me that your relatively new account spent so much of its time defending him and praising one of his threads, while you lurk most of the time. Your 3rd post was to come to his defense, and overall, a good deal of your posts have been in his defense, or in his Tool-Assisted Speedruns thread, etc. Alright, fine, you like the guy, but he's no victim, he picked his fights here early on and when you do things like, "Hey, you guys are like republicans with your 'fact-fudging'", shoehorning in his hack politics into his anti-anti-gouging attacks, you alienate a % of more people politically beyond the issue at hand. So yeah, anyway, I really don't like the guy, I find him to be pretty useless and I think the board could do without him. Just one man's opinion.

PCEngineHell · 01/09/2013, 05:57 PM

Quote from: NightWolve on 01/09/2013, 03:22 PMJust one man's opinion.

More then one man's opinion I'd say. I second you on that.

Tatsujin · 01/09/2013, 08:16 PM

Oh it's Fightin' Street.

[2cents]
Farkkobold.
[/2cents]

Emerald Rocker · 01/09/2013, 11:46 PM

After reviewing the threads in question, Darkkobold seems like the kind of guy who pretends to be righteous, but is actually just plain rude. Those kinds of people are hard to tolerate -- he should be nice to everyone at PCEFX, like I am. Darkkobold must be a Democrat. This board doesn't need Democrats.

Sparky · 01/10/2013, 12:17 AM

Hahaha

HercTNT · 01/10/2013, 12:40 AM

Quote from: NightWolve on 01/09/2013, 03:22 PM
Quote from: galam on 12/31/2012, 04:52 PMMy lord, you guys really beat the crap out of DK around here. Does this stem from some specific event that I must have missed?
Everytime the guy posts, people are on him like flies on shit. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just curious.
I don't want to be the kid on the playground that isn't in on the joke.
He picked fights with NecroPhile, vestcunt, BlackTiger (who he renamed to BlackRambler) in our main Gouging thread and another pricing thread when he showed up. Vestcunt bothered him the most I guess, so then he made a Fighting Street thread in his name. Here's part of what you missed, I laid it out well enough and the list of insults he hurled at BlackTiger:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13371.msg265904#msg265904 (Old Rover wanted to break up the fight, though)

So yeah, he earned the hate by numerous people simultaneously like say Xray did. It's not "mob mentality." My theory about him is that he maintains an account to monitor that Gouging thread and wait for an opportunity to pounce on someone if they post a case that doesn't quite qualify as gouging so he can tell us all that we're too paranoid and generally wrong, etc. I think that most of his posts are just filler material, even the posts in the Gouging thread where he's going along with the theme of the thread and linking cases that qualify, etc.

In my view, he pretty much told us what his main purpose is around here:
Quote from: guest on 07/26/2012, 01:49 PM
Quote from: soop on 07/26/2012, 12:04 PMPeople who are going to pay way over the odds, thus justifying high prices and raising the general price for the rest of us
As an intro, I am far more active on reddit's r/gamecollecting. There, I try and combat this mentality with as much as I can. First of all, this idea is extremely selfish. A seller lists something on Ebay at a price he wants. Then, a buyer has the choice of buying it or waiting for a lower price. The buyer's decision is based on his or her personal discretionary income, desire for the item, and many other factors, none of which are your business. The idea that the price you want to pay should be factored into a buyers decision is just 100% pure self-interest.
In other words, he polices similar anti-gouging type threads/thinking at reddit by the same kind of heckling and harassing that he's done here. Like he said, he tries to "combat this mentality" with as much as he can...

Quote from: guest on 12/31/2012, 09:11 PMI think it stems from his posts in the big eBay gouging thread. There have been times when he defended sellers who didn't appear to really be gouging... Defended isn't the right word. Really he just pointed out some cases where it looked like people were jumping to conclusions and that auction prices were legitimately high. This landed him on the "Fuck EBay Club" shit list. Which is somewhat ironic because now he's getting reamed for not accurately quoting eBay's going prices to that guy in the Reddit post. I don't personally think he did anything wrong intentionally, but I'm in the minority of people around here who get along with DK and tend to share his POV on some things.

I probably risk getting flamed for saying that, but its OK. Professorson doesn't have to like me for me to use his TG mod guides. (: im trying to stay off of the shit lists on this site since many of the reagulars seem like people I'd enjoy having a beer with when they're not assaulting me, but wanted to offer you one ex-lurker's perspective on why DK gets picked on. im sure everyone has their own reasons and perspectives.
Wow... You sure minimized the entry that he made around here and even attempt to portray him as a poor little victim that gets "picked on." I was thinking you were possibly friends before this board - It seemed odd/unusual to me that your relatively new account spent so much of its time defending him and praising one of his threads, while you lurk most of the time. Your 3rd post was to come to his defense, and overall, a good deal of your posts have been in his defense, or in his Tool-Assisted Speedruns thread, etc. Alright, fine, you like the guy, but he's no victim, he picked his fights here early on and when you do things like, "Hey, you guys are like republicans with your 'fact-fudging'", shoehorning in his hack politics into his anti-anti-gouging attacks, you alienate a % of more people politically beyond the issue at hand. So yeah, anyway, I really don't like the guy, I find him to be pretty useless and I think the board could do without him. Just one man's opinion.

Quote from: Emerald Rocker on 01/09/2013, 11:46 PMAfter reviewing the threads in question, Darkkobold seems like the kind of guy who pretends to be righteous, but is actually just plain rude. Those kinds of people are hard to tolerate -- he should be nice to everyone at PCEFX, like I am. Darkkobold must be a Democrat. This board doesn't need Democrats.

Thanks, both of you. I tried to explain this to Nulltard, but I think he was only interested in crossing swords with me than what was really going on. Nulltard was trying to tell me he was not interested in crossing swords being so new, yet, here he is in fighting street having at it. Kinda hard to parse those two and make sense.

ApolloBoy · 01/10/2013, 12:59 AM

Quote from: Emerald Rocker on 01/09/2013, 11:46 PMDarkkobold must be a Democrat. This board doesn't need Democrats.

LOL whut

PCEngineHell · 01/10/2013, 07:40 AM

I could care less if he kept the picking fights to fighting street or something, but he does go out of his way to do it in other parts of the forum. The whole thing though with the guys lucky TG 16 find and him making a play for stuff though, that was a new low. He wont be able to come back from it in my eyes (not that it would really matter).

Arkhan Asylum · 01/10/2013, 10:25 AM

Yeah. It needs gamecrats. Fuck demos.

NightWolve · 01/10/2013, 11:54 AM

Quote from: ApolloBoy on 01/10/2013, 12:59 AM
Quote from: Emerald Rocker on 01/09/2013, 11:46 PMDarkkobold must be a Democrat. This board doesn't need Democrats.
LOL whut

It was a dig at me through wild/exaggerated inference, I guess, for raising one of Dickkibold's random political jabs in unrelated subjects and implying that's the *only* reason why I don't like the guy and don't want him around.

Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/09/2013, 08:16 PMOh it's Fightin' Street.

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Farkkobold.
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I guess that's how tehsteve would've done it - It's short, 2-3 sentences per post at the most, and barely manages to convey the opinion! ;)

DildoKKKobold · 01/11/2013, 11:42 AM

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 01/10/2013, 07:40 AM(not that it would really matter).

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Emerald Rocker · 01/11/2013, 10:17 PM

Quote from: NightWolve on 01/10/2013, 11:54 AMIt was a dig at me through wild/exaggerated inference, I guess, for raising one of Dickkibold's random political jabs in unrelated subjects and implying that's the *only* reason why I don't like the guy and don't want him around.

Nah... I just don't think Democrats deserve to enjoy awesome things like the PC Engine. And even if they do happen to stain a PCE with their dirty hands, they don't deserve to be allowed to talk about it.

bob · 01/19/2013, 08:28 PM

Quote from: Emerald Rocker on 01/11/2013, 10:17 PM
Quote from: NightWolve on 01/10/2013, 11:54 AMIt was a dig at me through wild/exaggerated inference, I guess, for raising one of Dickkibold's random political jabs in unrelated subjects and implying that's the *only* reason why I don't like the guy and don't want him around.
Nah... I just don't think Democrats deserve to enjoy awesome things like the PC Engine. And even if they do happen to stain a PCE with their dirty hands, they don't deserve to be allowed to talk about it.

Fuckin demoCRAPS. Thanks for giving the money I earn to a bunch of lazy, entitled, unmarketable drunks.
I have my own kids to feed and clothe. For Christ sake, just because half of the unemployed is over 50, and didn't know how to save a dime while they had a chance, doesn't mean we should let them live off the system of 2000 "weeks" of free paychecks. Nevermind the REAL crooks who hide under the table wages and brag about collecting at the same time. You know, the people at the bar at noon on a weekday.

CGQuarterly · 01/22/2013, 11:44 AM

How it it any different from the fact that MY property taxes go to pay for YOUR kids? As Chris Rock once said, I wear condoms for a reason. Maybe you should be the one paying higher taxes for shit like schools since you chose to have kids. But instead, you have little tax write-offs and I don't. So I pay more for your kids to go to school than you do. So it's all a matter pf perspective. While you're complaining about your tax money going to do-nothing free-loaders, I complain about my tax money going to your kids.

Chris

RoyVegas · 01/22/2013, 12:40 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 01/22/2013, 11:44 AMWhile you're complaining about your tax money going to do-nothing free-loaders, I complain about my tax money going to your kids.

Chris

And I complain about my tax dollars going into the pot for politicians to throw right out the window on bullshit. I'd rather have pay more taxes and have U.S. kids getting a better education than politicians spending it on programs for illegals with no right to be here, or on foreign aid to countries that hate our guts.

CGQuarterly · 01/22/2013, 11:13 PM

Quote from: RoyVegas on 01/22/2013, 12:40 PM
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 01/22/2013, 11:44 AMWhile you're complaining about your tax money going to do-nothing free-loaders, I complain about my tax money going to your kids.
And I complain about my tax dollars going into the pot for politicians to throw right out the window on bullshit. I'd rather have pay more taxes and have U.S. kids getting a better education than politicians spending it on programs for illegals with no right to be here, or on foreign aid to countries that hate our guts.

That's absolutely true as well but to be honest, other people's kids are part of that bullshit too, from my perspective. 2 kids are more of a tax write-off than the mortgage interest on my house.

To bring everything back to the OP, hopefully DarkKockbald doesn't have any kids that I'm paying for.

Chris

Emerald Rocker · 01/26/2013, 12:50 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 01/22/2013, 11:44 AMHow it it any different from the fact that MY property taxes go to pay for YOUR kids? As Chris Rock once said, I wear condoms for a reason. Maybe you should be the one paying higher taxes for shit like schools since you chose to have kids. But instead, you have little tax write-offs and I don't. So I pay more for your kids to go to school than you do. So it's all a matter pf perspective. While you're complaining about your tax money going to do-nothing free-loaders, I complain about my tax money going to your kids.

Chris

I can explain how it's different.

From a monetary perspective, raising children is very expensive. So, from a financial standpoint, working people are inherently discouraged from having kids. It costs money and it costs time. The tax write-offs are meant to reduce that discouragement. They don't go so far as to encourage family-rearing (since the write-offs are way smaller than the extra costs that parents shoulder) but it's a method for society to support the preservation of our nation via continued childbirth, even if it's only a small gesture.

Since it's a tax reduction, that means the parents are still paying taxes. You may philosophically disagree with the concept of any preferential tax treatment, which is your right, but you're still talking about people who are positively contributing to the federal tax pool. Those parents are contributing to schools, to roads, to defense, and to free contraception.

That's different from welfare, where the recipients aren't contributing to the tax pool at all.

So the question... if children preserve a society, why shouldn't we be happy about giving more money to unemployed people whenever they have more children? The answer goes back to concept of treating children as a tax reduction -- if you can't find work (ie, if you aren't paying federal income tax) then you should worry about finding a job before you worry about having more children. The concept of a tax reduction ensures that people keep working. The concept of welfare discourages people from working.

CGQuarterly · 01/26/2013, 08:15 PM

It sounds good in theory, but I shouldn't have to shoulder a higher tax burden so that someone else can have kids. We should all be paying our fair share. In my opinion, of course.

If people can't afford kids, maybe they shouldn't have them? Too many of the people in our society who are having the most kids are exactly the people who should be having none. And too many of the people who aren't having any kids are the ones who probably should be. From the standpoint of societal preservation, that is.

Chris

VestCunt · 01/26/2013, 09:39 PM

Whatever tax money is spent the occasional "welfare queen" is a piss in the ocean compared to the military, prisons, and corporate welfare.

Emerald Rocker · 01/26/2013, 10:12 PM

QuoteWhatever tax money is spent the occasional "welfare queen" is a piss in the ocean compared to the military, prisons, and corporate welfare.

The percentage of Americans who are on some form of welfare program has increased, and the nation is currently operating at a debt. Whether welfare is the biggest spending issue or not, I think it's valid to be concerned about any governmental program that uses tax dollars, discourages employment, and continues to grow in size and scope.

QuoteIf people can't afford kids, maybe they shouldn't have them? Too many of the people in our society who are having the most kids are exactly the people who should be having none. And too many of the people who aren't having any kids are the ones who probably should be. From the standpoint of societal preservation, that is.

I agree with this.

RoyVegas · 01/29/2013, 05:44 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 01/26/2013, 08:15 PMToo many of the people in our society who are having the most kids are exactly the people who should be having none. And too many of the people who aren't having any kids are the ones who probably should be. From the standpoint of societal preservation, that is.

Chris

Watch the movie Idiocracy. It clearly shows exactly what you're saying. I love that movie, soooo true.