CD games which most need a 'press' run

Bardoly · 02/26/2013, 05:42 PM

Not sure which board to pose this question on.

If someone were to 'press' 500 copies of 1-5 Turbo CD games complete in jewel cases, back insert, and 2-panel front insert and make them available to the Turbo community for basically cost+shipping, which games would be the most 'useful' to the community in pressed form? Some of the English-patch-translated PCE games? Some of the harder to find games? Homebrew games which have never been released in pressed form (i.e. Meteor Blaster DX)? etc...? It seems as though the debate still continues for pressed CDs vs CDRs, but at least nobody dislikes pressed CDs.

I am NOT advocating selling something that a living company has current interest in 'protecting' their rights. It's just that, for curiousity's sake, I recently got a price quote, and for 500 (minimum order) 'pressed' CDs as follows - (CD Package=CD replication from glass master with 1 to 3 color screen print, 2 panel insert (4/4) and tray card, jewel case, assembly & wrap) - for reasonable pricing, and I wonder why/if this question has come up before and if so, then what the community's consensus was on this issue? If I'm stepping on anyone's toes by asking this question, then I apologize in advance.

BigusSchmuck · 02/26/2013, 06:03 PM

Beyond Shadowgate would be a good candidate. I don't think there is a remake for this or on a collection of sorts. I also suggest Bonk 3 CD and Super Air Zonk although there is a good chance that those did make it to a remake or collection of sorts.

seieienbu · 02/26/2013, 06:11 PM

I'd like a copy of Dungeon Explorer 2 without spending infinity dollars.

BigusSchmuck · 02/26/2013, 06:12 PM

Quote from: seieienbu on 02/26/2013, 06:11 PMI'd like a copy of Dungeon Explorer 2 without spending infinity dollars.

It has been remade:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Explorer:_Warriors_of_Ancient_Arts
NVM I guess it hasn't. But the first game was on the Wii virtual console. I'm not so sure if Konami would appreciate someone selling bootleg copies of one of their games they may intend to remake or release.

TheClash603 · 02/26/2013, 06:15 PM

This thread was done before... but I am mobile so it is hard to look for it.

I think that people wanted some US dubbed PC-E games most of all, though I pushed for Space Fantasy Zone.

Bardoly · 02/26/2013, 06:21 PM

Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/26/2013, 06:15 PMThis thread was done before... but I am mobile so it is hard to look for it.

I think that people wanted some US dubbed PC-E games most of all, though I pushed for Space Fantasy Zone.

How 'complete' is Space Fantasy Zone? It's a prototype that was never released, right?

seieienbu · 02/26/2013, 06:37 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 02/26/2013, 06:12 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 02/26/2013, 06:11 PMI'd like a copy of Dungeon Explorer 2 without spending infinity dollars.
It has been remade:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Explorer:_Warriors_of_Ancient_Arts
NVM I guess it hasn't. But the first game was on the Wii virtual console. I'm not so sure if Konami would appreciate someone selling bootleg copies of one of their games they may intend to remake or release.

Didn't know about that, thanks for the heads up. I'd still rather play it on my turbo, but whatever, vote rescinded.

VestCunt · 02/26/2013, 07:35 PM

Here it is:
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=10156.0

TheClash603 · 02/26/2013, 07:37 PM

BTW- Did anyone else think this thread was about CD games in which you needed to press run the most?

BigusSchmuck · 02/26/2013, 07:46 PM

Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/26/2013, 07:37 PMBTW- Did anyone else think this thread was about CD games in which you needed to press run the most?

Yep I did at least. I should have known I remember reading a similar thread over a year ago...

jperryss · 02/26/2013, 08:25 PM

The other thread didn't have Beyond Shadowgate as an option, but I think it's a great candidate. US only, never re-made in any form, and pricey as hell.

CrackTiger · 02/26/2013, 08:40 PM

Bonk 3 CD would be a waste as it is strictly a collectors item and a downgrade of the readily available HuCards versions.

SignOfZeta · 02/26/2013, 09:05 PM

I would say the same for Super Air Zonk.

ElSeven · 02/26/2013, 09:16 PM

i think Beyond Shadowgate would be a great choice for this. It would be nice if the remake was in a singular jewel case, as the double case of the original was really superfluous. Sure, it contained a poster, but the airbrushed cover artwork and poster looked kinda lame compared to the gorgeous in-game art, IMO.

compil3r · 02/27/2013, 01:00 AM

Ys IV english translated and Dracula X of course... there's also a megaman port around somewhere, dungeon explorer II (US)... I had in mind a couple more, just can't remember.

Basically, all US releases that are far overpriced nowadays would be great!

_Paul · 02/27/2013, 03:47 AM

Translations are an obvious choice (i.e. Ys4), but only with the blessing of the team that produced them.

Bardoly · 02/27/2013, 02:43 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/27/2013, 03:47 AMTranslations are an obvious choice (i.e. Ys4), but only with the blessing of the team that produced them.

I understand and agree, although it must be recognized that it may be difficult to get agreement (or even contact) with all members of such a team. If this idea were pursued, then from my position, it should be a not-for-profit venture for sure, which may ameliorate any emotions.

NecroPhile · 02/27/2013, 04:08 PM

I'm so fucking sloooooow! I can't believe it's been a year and a half already, but hopefully other games will follow more quickly once the first is out the door. Motteke Tamago is very close to being sent for pressing and Space Fantasy Zone continues to wait in the wings for new music, but I'm not against doing something else while SFZ's on hold (assuming more than a few dozen people buy MT). Unlike MT and SFZ titles (which required artwork to be created from scratch, code modifications, and new tunes for SAZ), something like Beyond Shadowgate could be a relatively quick straight copy job. Translated games would need translated artwork made (even if not a full manual) and thus take more time to prepare, but the translators have made it clear that they don't want their work used in such a way, even as non-profit booties; and while I entirely disagree with their arguments, I'm not going to piss on their efforts and do 'em anyway.

As for doing multiple games in one shot, I don't know if that'd be a good idea or not. On one hand it'd spread the shipping cost out and more people would get the title they most wanted first, but on the other hand it'd require a much larger initial investment and force people to buy games they may not want (albeit for a pittance). I'd rather wait and see how MT turns out first before jumping in head first.

CGQuarterly · 02/27/2013, 04:42 PM

Just to echo what others are saying, english trans/dub of Drac X, and Dungeon Explorer 2 would both be awesome.

Chris

Keranu · 02/27/2013, 05:30 PM

I know it's going to be shot down, but just to show how much demand there is, I vote Ys IV!

NightWolve · 02/27/2013, 05:32 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/27/2013, 04:08 PMTranslated games would need translated artwork made (even if not a full manual) and thus take more time to prepare, but the translators have made it clear that they don't want their work used in such a way, even as non-profit booties; and while I entirely disagree with their arguments, I'm not going to piss on their efforts and do 'em anyway.

Well, for Ys IV, the textual part of the project is my domain and I would help you with that and pull out some of the dubbing work that Justus Johnston did with me like for the Darm opening (and I could get 2-3 of his actors that were recruited way back). He wouldn't mind. BurntLasagna refuses inclusion of his dubbing work. So, you'd have to be willing to go without most of that. All the other actors that he managed to recruit on his own would fall under his domain and I wouldn't try to bypass him further (Minus say Duo_R and ParanoiaDragon, our guys here, who would consent to the inclusion of their samples). But you can see, without the full voice cast, might as well forget it and leave it all Japanese. But yeah, we have a translated manual ready-to-go (could use a little work though), and we'd have the in-game text for such a project.

As for the Dracula X translation project, BurntLasagna entirely managed that (Bonknuts did the hacking) and the answer there is a flat out no. It would have to be done by somebody that doesn't care what anyone in the translation team thinks.

Quote from: Keranu on 02/27/2013, 05:30 PMI know it's going to be shot down, but just to show how much demand there is, I vote Ys IV!

Well, like I said, if you would accept it without most of the voice actors, then it's got the greenlight by me and I'd make it possible. I could help get actors re-recorded to replace the ones that would refuse inclusion under BL's domain as well. You guys would have to step up and manage that part and I'd just set you up with the software, etc.

BigusSchmuck · 02/27/2013, 05:49 PM

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Quote from: NightWolve on 02/27/2013, 05:32 PM
Quote from: guest on 02/27/2013, 04:08 PMTranslated games would need translated artwork made (even if not a full manual) and thus take more time to prepare, but the translators have made it clear that they don't want their work used in such a way, even as non-profit booties; and while I entirely disagree with their arguments, I'm not going to piss on their efforts and do 'em anyway.
Well, for Ys IV, the textual part of the project is my domain and I would help you with that and pull out some of the dubbing work that Justus Johnston did with me like for the Darm opening (and I could get 2-3 of his actors that were recruited way back). He wouldn't mind. BurntLasagna refuses inclusion of his dubbing work. So, you'd have to be willing to go without most of that. All the other actors that he managed to recruit on his own would fall under his domain and I wouldn't try to bypass him further (Minus say Duo_R and ParanoiaDragon, our guys here, who would consent to the inclusion of their samples). But you can see, without the full voice cast, might as well forget it and leave it all Japanese. But yeah, we have a translated manual ready-to-go (could use a little work though), and we'd have the in-game text for such a project.

As for the Dracula X translation project, BurntLasagna entirely managed that and the answer there is a flat out no. It would have to be done by somebody that doesn't care what anyone in the translation team thinks.

Any particular reason why BurntLasagna refuses his work on Ys IV to be on pressed cds? I know the Dracula X project would bring unwanted attention, but as for Ys IV I don't see why the authorities would have any issues with it. My other vote would go for Ys IV too. Again, Beyond Shadowgate is pretty safe to do and I would rather pay someone to cover the costs of it being pressed than paying $200 to some ebayer who wants to just to profit from it.

SignOfZeta · 02/27/2013, 07:02 PM

I really don't see what the point would be in getting "permission" or whatever from translators when you sure as fuck aren't going to get it from Hudson, etc.

I also vote Ys IV. Drac X is much less needed, IMO, since the game has zero language barrier and is available translated on at least two other systems.

NightWolve · 02/27/2013, 07:12 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 02/27/2013, 05:49 PMAny particular reason why BurntLasagna refuses his work on Ys IV to be on pressed cds? I know the Dracula X project would bring unwanted attention, but as for Ys IV I don't see why the authorities would have any issues with it. My other vote would go for Ys IV too.

Overtly, he's got the "fan credo" opinion (gotta be nice here since I worked with the guy) as stated on the first post of his Ys IV thread. You can take that at face value.

In general, it varies with people. I have a lot of theories about it and the following by no means necessarily applies to him, but in some cases, it's due to a little fear because of the typical paranoia that certain places promote that the FBI will come knocking down your door the second unlicensed fan work is charged for... There is also a certain peer pressure that said places promote that if you somehow sell such work, that makes you the focus of modern evil in the world, a greedy "mercenary," a part of the "wrong kind of crowd" and so you will be demonized as such, etc. Thus, not wanting to offend such forces also plays a role and the result is someone going way out of their way to tell you money had nothing to do with it and never will, etc. This peer pressure comes from the people that have been getting this stuff for free and wanna keep it that way (the warez), people who just developed some honest kind of sense that it's wrong, and also, certain anti-capitalist, non-profit ideologues who discovered that the fan translation movement is a good vehicle for anti-capitalism (I know, the last one is a little out there, but I've run into some).

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 02/27/2013, 07:02 PMI really don't see what the point would be in getting "permission" or whatever from translators when you sure as fuck aren't going to get it from Hudson, etc.

I know, but it's respect, albeit very begrudgingly (in my case), for someone that I know and worked with... Though I'm not willing to cede complete veto power and could get some dubs of actors I know were recruited prior with Justus and who post here on PCEFX.

OldRover · 02/27/2013, 07:42 PM

Too much importance on "gamer cred", imo.

BigusSchmuck · 02/27/2013, 08:01 PM

I'm curious now, why is there such a reluctance to do this if its really this easy?
http://www.nationwidedisc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=116&Itemid=166

Sadler · 02/27/2013, 08:35 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 02/27/2013, 08:01 PMI'm curious now, why is there such a reluctance to do this if its really this easy?
http://www.nationwidedisc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=116&Itemid=166

Well, NightWolve lays out several reasons above why someone might be against it. Another reason would be that it might not actually be that easy.

Quote from: NightWolve on 02/27/2013, 07:12 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 02/27/2013, 07:02 PMI really don't see what the point would be in getting "permission" or whatever from translators when you sure as fuck aren't going to get it from Hudson, etc.
I know, but it's respect, albeit very begrudgingly (in my case), for someone that I know and worked with... Though I'm not willing to cede complete veto power and could get some dubs of actors I know were recruited prior with Justus and who post here on PCEFX.

For what it's worth, I really appreciate that respect between you two. Both you and Burnt (and a few others here) have done some amazing things for us. I'll take whatever I can get from you guys and support you guys however I can.

But still I'd love to see some of these things pressed.

Arjak · 02/27/2013, 10:01 PM

I want a pressed disc of the Ys IV Translation, too! If those guys making reproductions of fan-translated NES and SNES games can get away with it, why can't we? No one wants to be stuck with a CD-R that won't even read right some of the time (if at all)!

Come on, BL! Please? Gamer cred on the internet is worth nothing! That's like saying: "I will totally call women who beat me in games sexist names and ruthlessly troll people who disagree with me, but people who try to use my work to help out fellow gamers? FUCK YOU!!!!!!"

Now, I know that you would never do any of the former, but I do find this a little ridiculous. I can understand not wanting to upset Konami by having reproductions made of Dracula X after they so graciously released it for the PSP, but Dawn of Ys will likely never be officially released in America. I don't see Falcom and XSeed making it a bonus on the new PS Vita version...

Arkhan Asylum · 02/27/2013, 11:57 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 02/27/2013, 08:01 PMI'm curious now, why is there such a reluctance to do this if its really this easy?
http://www.nationwidedisc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=116&Itemid=166

It's expensive and you end up with boxes of spare discs sitting all over your basement.

ParanoiaDragon · 02/28/2013, 02:14 AM

Quote from: guest on 02/27/2013, 04:08 PMI'm so fucking sloooooow! I can't believe it's been a year and a half already, but hopefully other games will follow more quickly once the first is out the door. Motteke Tamago is very close to being sent for pressing and Space Fantasy Zone continues to wait in the wings for new music, but I'm not against doing something else while SFZ's on hold (assuming more than a few dozen people buy MT). Unlike MT and SFZ titles (which required artwork to be created from scratch, code modifications, and new tunes for SAZ), something like Beyond Shadowgate could be a relatively quick straight copy job. Translated games would need translated artwork made (even if not a full manual) and thus take more time to prepare, but the translators have made it clear that they don't want their work used in such a way, even as non-profit booties; and while I entirely disagree with their arguments, I'm not going to piss on their efforts and do 'em anyway.

As for doing multiple games in one shot, I don't know if that'd be a good idea or not. On one hand it'd spread the shipping cost out and more people would get the title they most wanted first, but on the other hand it'd require a much larger initial investment and force people to buy games they may not want (albeit for a pittance). I'd rather wait and see how MT turns out first before jumping in head first.

Motteke is close to being sent out? Sweet! As for SFZ, if only I had time. Besides Jungle Bros., Dragon Arm got pushed up faster then I anticipated, so, I've been working on ideas for that, & we've had another project come along that I'm in the middle of right now(though it shouldn't take me too long to finish up). I do want to help out with SFZ, but, with my official projects.... I have come up with some ideas for it recently however, though, I still wonder if there's any coding to due, besides assigning new tracks to the levels?

TheClash603 · 02/28/2013, 07:39 AM

You know what game never gets mentioned? Snatcher!

I always wanted to play, but the Sega CD copy is stupid expensive.

CrackTiger · 02/28/2013, 08:17 AM

Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/28/2013, 07:39 AMYou know what game never gets mentioned? Snatcher!

I always wanted to play, but the Sega CD copy is stupid expensive.

I don't think that the average Sega-CD system has as much trouble playing cdrs as the average Turbo/PCE CD-ROM does.

NecroPhile · 02/28/2013, 11:00 AM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 02/27/2013, 07:02 PMI really don't see what the point would be in getting "permission" or whatever from translators when you sure as fuck aren't going to get it from Hudson, etc.

Probably because I'm not a total asshole, at least not in this one particular instance. I like playing translations and hope for more, so I see little advantage in pissing off any of the handful of people that do such work.

Quote from: The Old Rover on 02/27/2013, 07:42 PMToo much importance on "gamer cred", imo.

I don't know about that. The credit and kudos will always come in long before a real disc will ship, and if anything a pressed disc would make more people happy and presumably grateful (assuming that the patch is still available for download and that the disc is sold cheaply). And with credits printed right on the booty, there's a better chance that people will see who did the work than there is from them reading the readme.

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 02/28/2013, 02:14 AMI still wonder if there's any coding to do, besides assigning new tracks to the levels?

Just that and disabling the end level cheat, both of which were done speedily by Tom.

Gogan · 02/28/2013, 11:51 AM

I'd love a pressed Beyond Shadowgate that wasn't stupid expensive

CrackTiger · 02/28/2013, 01:10 PM

Burnt Lasagna feels that playing CD games through Mednafen on Wii is as good as or better than the real thing. So he doesn't have the motivation that ithers do to see oroperly functioning discs created.

The potential legal issues and attention that could arise from pressing discs discourages him from supporting it. He doesn't want companies like Konami (who own the rights to both Drac X and Ys IV) to start hunting down future translation projects and threaten legal action before they're even completed. The longer these projects remain under the radar, the longer that new ones can be considered by many people.

In the past he has mentioned playing games that he did not own, so he's not the morally-against-unauthorized-use-to-the-extreme type of person that there were many more of during the early days of emulation.

Keranu · 02/28/2013, 03:58 PM

One aspect to keep in mind regarding the translation projects is that it's probably only a matter of time before somebody like Care4Data swoops in for the opportunity to produce those games and sell them purely for self profit on eBay. And, kind of shameful for me to admit, I'd probably be one to buy it... but I'd feel much better supporting a community-driven production than giving money to some anonymous bootlickin' bootlegger.

Bernie · 02/28/2013, 04:04 PM

Quote from: Keranu on 02/28/2013, 03:58 PMOne aspect to keep in mind regarding the translation projects is that it's probably only a matter of time before somebody like Care4Data swoops in for the opportunity to produce those games and sell them purely for self profit on eBay. And, kind of shameful for me to admit, I'd probably be one to buy it... but I'd feel much better supporting a community-driven production than giving money to some anonymous bootlickin' bootlegger.

Yeah, me too.....

jperryss · 02/28/2013, 04:25 PM

Quote from: Keranu on 02/28/2013, 03:58 PMOne aspect to keep in mind regarding the translation projects is that it's probably only a matter of time before somebody like Care4Data swoops in for the opportunity to produce those games and sell them purely for self profit on eBay. And, kind of shameful for me to admit, I'd probably be one to buy it... but I'd feel much better supporting a community-driven production than giving money to some anonymous bootlickin' bootlegger.

Care4Data is just the pressing company, not the ones actually trying to repro and sell for profit, right?

PCEngineHell · 02/28/2013, 04:43 PM

I'd be good for any games that no company has any rights to anymore. Some stuff does actually end up as abandonware after all, but you'd need to look around and do some real investigating first. For others that still have rights being owned, stuff like Beyond Shadowgate I mean (David Marsh I think owns the rights to it), find out who is the current rights holder, and see if a deal could be worked out with them to get the game to be redistributed at an affordable price. That is one game I would pay $40 for for a packaged repress.

When you make contact with them though, you need to do it in a professional manner, and present a real strategy as to how you'd make it happen. They may want to ask some hard questions that you really need to be able to answer. Otherwise I would not bother. The last thing anyone needs to do is end up in a lawsuit for pursuing an unlicensed re-release that is also going to bring flack down on the community here and present a bad image of us as TG/PCE fans.

NecroPhile · 02/28/2013, 05:31 PM

Legit games will never happen. Somebody, somewhere owns the rights to most everything (everything desirable anyhow), and they're not going to give a tin shit about selling a couple hundred copies of an old game; a couple grand payday is peanuts, and it's just not worth the time for them to research if they own the rights 100% (they may own the game but not certain assets, like music), update the case/manual/title screen with new copyrights and corporate info., research the game to make sure it doesn't reflect poorly on them (what was okay 20 years ago isn't necessarily PC today), draw up contracts, etc.

PCEngineHell · 02/28/2013, 06:16 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/28/2013, 05:31 PMLegit games will never happen.

I wouldn't say that exactly. Its already happened on other systems, at least as far as getting unreleasd games released anyway, like Total Carnage on Jaguar and Nightmare Busters for Snes.

ParanoiaDragon · 02/28/2013, 08:14 PM

Quote from: Keranu on 02/28/2013, 03:58 PMOne aspect to keep in mind regarding the translation projects is that it's probably only a matter of time before somebody like Care4Data swoops in for the opportunity to produce those games and sell them purely for self profit on eBay. And, kind of shameful for me to admit, I'd probably be one to buy it... but I'd feel much better supporting a community-driven production than giving money to some anonymous bootlickin' bootlegger.

I'm 50/50 on this, since, hell yeah, I want me a pressed disc/manual/etc., but I don't want to contribute to a profiteer either. If the prices were much lower, so that they're not making buttloads of money, then that's a different matter. Speaking of which, I'd still like to see that Marble Madness get made professionally somehow!

jperryss · 02/28/2013, 08:24 PM

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 02/28/2013, 08:14 PMSpeaking of which, I'd still like to see that Marble Madness get made professionally somehow!

He's done gloating, no need to come back now.

PCEngineHell · 02/28/2013, 11:20 PM

Quote from: jperryss on 02/28/2013, 08:24 PM
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 02/28/2013, 08:14 PMSpeaking of which, I'd still like to see that Marble Madness get made professionally somehow!
He's done gloating, no need to come back now.

Ha yeah fuck him.

ElSeven · 03/01/2013, 02:03 AM

I can definitely see why people would want a pressed version of the Ys IV translation, as it's now one of the best english RPGs available for the system. It has been said by others, and I have to agree, that going against the wishes of the team that helped translate it does not seem like a wise decision. To me this reads like "biting the hand that feeds you".

IMO, the Ys IV translation + dub is one of the greatest gifts this community has been given. If we turn around and spit in their face, why would they ever want to contribute anything else to us? There is so much potential for other great japanese games to be translated, and yet there are so few that have the skills/time/interest in doing so. Why alienate people that are willing to do this for us?

Meanwhile, with respect to the team whom translated Drac X, a pressed version just seems even less necessary, as there is absolutely no language barrier. Plus the german intro sounds badass already

also, not trying to ruffle feathers or anything, but I gotta say that the whole "we better do this or else anime4ever is going to" is a little weak. The only way he poses a threat is if we are trying to make a profit...which I assume we aren't. I mean...whos to say that if we went through with a YsIV pressing first, only to have him copy it and sell it for profit? What are we gunna do...tell the cops?!?!lol.

What if he offeres a far better package? There are many possibilities and it all starts to get a bit paranoid at that point, so we may as well not worry about him because he can (and will) do whatever he wants. The rockman cdrs are proof of that.

If anime4ever decides to go through with it, and it's as inevitable as some think, then the only protest we can truly offer is to not purchase from that dude.

NecroPhile · 03/01/2013, 09:25 AM

The reason BL (and others) don't want booties made is to avoid unwanted attention from the original IP's owner, and anime4ever selling 'em for $50+ would surely attract their attention and wrath a heck of a lot quicker than them being sold for two bucks. So it's not so much that we gotta beat him to the punch or that we're trying to compete with him, but more who would you rather have making the inevitable booties?

CrackTiger · 03/01/2013, 10:27 AM

If anime4ever copies any of these projects, which I'm sure he's well aware of, any kind of pcefx pressing will only stop the sale of maybe 50 - 100 copies or so, while the rest of the internet goes buck wild paying $300 each for his "rare" secret undistributed final days of TTi copies.

Keith Courage · 03/01/2013, 04:35 PM

I'm wondering how anime4ever gets away with it. I always thought that what he is doing was illegal. Is it because the games he sells look so good that no one prove them as fakes or what?

NecroPhile · 03/01/2013, 04:45 PM

He gets away with it because nobody really cares enough to expend the legal resources to fight him. Since they're old, out of print games (or never printed in the first place), it'd be impossible for them to prove damages, meaning the most they could expect from the courts is a cease and desist.

PCEngineHell · 03/02/2013, 04:14 AM

Well, the other thing is his location, which makes it harder to go after him. It would be a bit different, and easier for a American or Japanese company to go after another person in a North American court over a copyright issue. So that plays a factor in it. Though my understanding of when he was contacted by SFT about his own unofficial distribution of Nightmare Busters and asked to stop, he did so, from what I understand.