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Explosions at Boston Marathon.

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JoshTurboTrollX

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/explosions-boston-marathon-finish-line-18960342#.UWxUD1cgtIY

A coworker of mine is participating there today.  I'll share more once I get word from him that he's alright.
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turboswimbz

hope everyone here in that area, or had people in the race are okay. terrible news.
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

NecroPhile

The fuck is this shit?!?  Another homegrown mcveigh douche or is it a jihadist twat?
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420GOAT

Saudi national. i hope folks are ok for the most part and i hope this shit doesnt start a trend.
I want to be more like 337.

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mac

#4
Quote from: 420GOAT on 04/15/2013, 06:07 PMSaudi national. i hope folks are ok for the most part and i hope this shit doesnt start a trend.
Quote from: guest on 04/15/2013, 05:58 PMThe fuck is this shit?!?  Another homegrown mcveigh douche or is it a jihadist twat?
A coward who cares not for life.

Thoughts with the families.

FiftyQuid

I read on the NY Times that the police were investigating the possibility of a bomb prior to the explosions.  Did anyone else read the same thing?  I've only seen that statement in the NY Times so I'm not sure how credible it is.

God bless.
I'm busy playing pinball, but I still drop by to visit.

SuperDeadite

Quote from: 420GOAT on 04/15/2013, 06:07 PMSaudi national. i hope folks are ok for the most part and i hope this shit doesnt start a trend.
Please avoid the Faux News shit.  It is currently unconfirmed who did this.  And considering that major terrorist groups want you to know what they did and are quite vocal, my guess is a nutjob.
Stronger Than Your Average Deadite

soop

Man this is terrible.  I found out last night, and logged on to bbc.co.uk. All they had was a video, which I REALLY don't want to watch.
And then I found out that some jackass is cashing in on facebook with those pity stories they get you to share for likes.

bleagh.
Quote from: esteban on 04/26/2018, 04:44 PMSHUTTLECOCK OR SHUFFLE OFF!

JoshTurboTrollX

I got a return text from the guy that was there.  He said he was ok and about a mile back from where the explosions went off.
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Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 04/16/2013, 09:55 AMI got a return text from the guy that was there.  He said he was ok and about a mile back from where the explosions went off. 
Your friend should be thankful he sucks at marathons.


... too soon?
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

PCEngineHell

Quote from: guest on 04/16/2013, 10:43 AM
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 04/16/2013, 09:55 AMI got a return text from the guy that was there.  He said he was ok and about a mile back from where the explosions went off. 
Your friend should be thankful he sucks at marathons.


... too soon?
Its never too soon.

JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: guest on 04/16/2013, 10:43 AM
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 04/16/2013, 09:55 AMI got a return text from the guy that was there.  He said he was ok and about a mile back from where the explosions went off. 
Your friend should be thankful he sucks at marathons.


... too soon?
lol, I think he is.
Jossshhhhh...Legendary TurboTrollX-16: He revenge-bans PCE Developers/Ys IV Localizers from PCE Facebook groups and destroyed 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Josh and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner (extortion/blackmail!), never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

PCEngineHell

 They have four in custody, pic just got leaked of them.
/bostonsuspectsincustody.jpg

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 04/16/2013, 11:40 AMThey have four in custody, pic just got leaked of them.
/bostonsuspectsincustody.jpg
I loled.

and yoohoo came out of my nose.

Nice.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

esteban

I had family watching the marathon, but luckily they are OK. Crazy.

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 04/16/2013, 11:40 AMThey have four in custody, pic just got leaked of them.
/bostonsuspectsincustody.jpg
I was so worried about what I would find...

As it turned out:

hahahhahahahahahahhahahahha. :pcgs:
IMGIMG IMG  |  IMG  |  IMG IMG

bob

So...interesting observation.  A few weeks ago, a Brown University student went "missing" and his name was Sunil Tripathi.
Striking resemblance to "Suspect #2" (white hat)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/sunil-tripathi-surveillance-footage-shows-missing-ivy-league/story?id=18845517#.UXCY6PjD9R0

Eighth picture in the slideshow...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/gallery/fbi-boston-suspects/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I'm just sayin'...

bob

#16
Dave Portnoy wrote on his blog this morning...

"How do I sum up the last 10 hours?  Hmm.  Well you didn't miss much.  Only that the 2 terrorists robbed a 7/11 near Kendall Square.   Then they killed an MIT police officer.  Then they carjacked a Mercedes SUV and led the police on a police chase into Watertown throwing grenades at the cops.  At 2am the FBI released new crystal clear photos of the terrorists. There were bombs and pressure cookers all over the place. There was a wild shootout in a residential neighborhood.   There was a reverse 911 call placed telling all Watertown residents to lock their doors and stay inside.   A innocent dude got caught in the mix and was forced to get naked and put into a cop car.  One of the terrorists got killed.  One of the terrorists got away and is still on the lose.  There were like 5 more shootouts.   More cops got injured.   I listened to the police scanners for 10 straight hours.  The police scanners confirmed that Sunil Tripathi (the missing Brown kid) was the 2nd terrorist.  Then Pete Williams from NBC said it wasn't which really made me look like a total asshole.  I ate some pizza for breakfast. And currently the guy we thought was Sunil, but supposedly isn't is still loose and the MBTA is shut down and the entire city is on lockdown as this madman runs around with a gun and a bomb strapped to him.   Other than that you didn't miss anything."

And I just woke up to a recording from my employer telling me NOT to go into Boston for work today.

NecroPhile

So you get to stay home and play Gate of Thunder.  Silver lining!
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retroguy

#18
Okay, so both terrorists are Russian, but they claim to be Muslim. Is there any chance we won't see the anti-Muslim witch hunts start up again, just as they were finally starting to die off? I'd like to think so, but the extreme stupidity of bigots in this country makes that unlikely. At least CNN has the right idea. One of their guys said "These are islamic terrorists?" and the woman next to him corrected him and said "Those are two different words. We shouldn't automatically put them together."
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NecroPhile

Not all muslims should be lumped together, but it's hard to like those that participate in or approve of rape victims being blamed for showing too much eyebrow, women (and their children) being imprisoned for 'abandoning' their abusive husbands, forced marriage of adolescent girls to 50+ year old men, and daily bombings of anyone that disagrees (even other brands of muslimism).
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turboswimbz

Quote from: retroguy on 04/19/2013, 09:51 AMOkay, so both terrorists are Russian, but they claim to be Muslim. Is there any chance we won't see the anti-Muslim witch hunts start up again, just as they were finally starting to die off? I'd like to think so, but the extreme stupidity of bigots in this country makes that unlikely. At least CNN has the right idea. One of their guys said "These are islamic terrorists?" and the woman next to him corrected him and said "Those are two different words. We shouldn't automatically put them together."
I heard reports that the reports of ties to Islam are false. I have several Islamic friends, and In my experience there will be anti-muslim sentiments  either way.
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

retroguy

Quote from: guest on 04/19/2013, 10:10 AMNot all muslims should be lumped together, but it's hard to like those that participate in or approve of rape victims being blamed for showing too much eyebrow, women (and their children) being imprisoned for 'abandoning' their abusive husbands, forced marriage of adolescent girls to 50+ year old men, and daily bombings of anyone that disagrees (even other brands of muslimism).
That's a fair point, but I tend to assume that if a Muslim moves to the US, it's because they don't agree with that and are trying to get away from it. Sure there's going to be the occasional wolf in sheep's clothing, but the vast majority of Muslims in the US are peaceful and have no desire to harm anyone.
I am bad and that's good. I will never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Arkhan Asylum

It is funny, we play this pen/paper game where the one kid is playing an ex war-hero that survived multiple wars in places like Bosnia, Korea, and Chechnya.


So I sent him a text and said  "Quick, send Logan in to stop this guy"

and he was like "oh man, hold on let me get my d10s".

we're fucking retards.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: guest on 04/19/2013, 12:42 PMIt is funny, we play this pen/paper game where the one kid is playing an ex war-hero that survived multiple wars in places like Bosnia, Korea, and Chechnya.


So I sent him a text and said  "Quick, send Logan in to stop this guy"

and he was like "oh man, hold on let me get my d10s".

we're fucking retards.
CyberPunk?
Jossshhhhh...Legendary TurboTrollX-16: He revenge-bans PCE Developers/Ys IV Localizers from PCE Facebook groups and destroyed 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Josh and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner (extortion/blackmail!), never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Arkhan Asylum

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

jeffhlewis


Arkhan Asylum

Shit it looks like there are some really smart lice in Boston!
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

bob

All of us in the area are waiting for this "controlled explosion" that we keep hearing about

NightWolve

Quote from: retroguy on 04/19/2013, 09:51 AMOkay, so both terrorists are Russian, but they claim to be Muslim. Is there any chance we won't see the anti-Muslim witch hunts start up again, just as they were finally starting to die off? I'd like to think so, but the extreme stupidity of bigots in this country makes that unlikely.
Witch hunts, eh ? Were there killings and mosque bombings that I am unaware of ?? I think Americans have generally been surprisingly well behaved all things considered beyond isolated incidents here and there, hardly something that you could call a lynch mob or witch hunt. If you're crying about soon to come nasty comments on the Internet, well, that isn't different from any other day on the Internet. I realize this puts another dent in the Islam = Peace narrative though and the clowns who run around and keep repeating that over and over again, but oh well...

Who are you calling a bigot anyway, being a great big one yourself ?? It's commendable that you don't want Mohammedans/Muslims negatively generalized as terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers, but you had no problem generalizing the "whitey christian" as "the most bigoted kind on the planet" in that linked post. "White" had no business in your comment, and I doubt you're a black guy, but even then I find it very bizarre, and never mind you generalizing them as bigoted (and I'm sure in your dictionary, bigoted = they don't agree with me!).

QuoteAt least CNN has the right idea. One of their guys said "These are islamic terrorists?" and the woman next to him corrected him and said "Those are two different words. We shouldn't automatically put them together."
The same CNN that had an analyst who floated the idea of "some right-wing group" before there were any real facts on the ground in this case... That's commendable, so now they'll try to make sure an actual fact is omitted when it suits them of course.

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 04/15/2013, 09:32 PMPlease avoid the Faux News shit.
Yeah, cause all the other networks do such a bang up job. I remember the Batman-opening shooting massacre and ABC News basically "googling" and then from that reporting that the guy was a Tea Party member... Took them an hour or two to correct that shit and the apology was only issued on the website. Wanting it to be true so much got the better of them... I really thought the Tea Party should've filed a defamation suit in that case, but they let them get away with it.

jeffhlewis

Quote from: NightWolve on 04/19/2013, 03:28 PM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 04/15/2013, 09:32 PMPlease avoid the Faux News shit.
Yeah, cause all the other networks do such a bang up job. I remember the Batman-opening shooting massacre and ABC News basically "googling" and then from that reporting that the guy was a Tea Party member... Took them an hour or two to correct that shit and the apology was only issued on the website. Wanting it to be true so much got the better of them... I really thought the Tea Party should've filed a defamation suit in that case, but they let them get away with it.
In all seriousness, Deadspin's coverage of this thing has been dynamite so far. And we're talking about a Gawker Media Sports Blog.

jlued686

Fox New sucks balls...but so do the other outlets. There are far better sources out there, many of them social media based. Watching these networks trip over their dicks trying to be first with breaking news is sickening.

And yeah, everybody's been quick to judge. Personally, I don't care what their affiliation is. I just want to see them brought to justice and/or dead.

Arkhan Asylum

What we need are Judges.

This shit would be taken care of already.

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Digi.k


Arkhan Asylum

Yeah they've had them all day, lol.

Too bad the MIT cop got shot and died.   That really sucks.

Would've been really hilarious if two terrorist idiots got taken down by a campus cop at MIT. 




What I'm curious about is, didn't any of these people watching the gunfight own any guns?

I mean if I looked out my window and saw two peckerwoods shooting at cops and trying to throw bombs, I would've grabbed a firearm and had at it.



What are they going to do? Come after me?!  They'd be turning their backs on the cops and would get smoked.  I mean you could have shot the gimp-bomb they were trying to throw and let it blow up right in their faces.

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

jeffhlewis

Quote from: guest on 04/19/2013, 04:45 PMYeah they've had them all day, lol.

Too bad the MIT cop got shot and died.   That really sucks.

Would've been really hilarious if two terrorist idiots got taken down by a campus cop at MIT. 




What I'm curious about is, didn't any of these people watching the gunfight own any guns?

I mean if I looked out my window and saw two peckerwoods shooting at cops and trying to throw bombs, I would've grabbed a firearm and had at it.



What are they going to do? Come after me?!  They'd be turning their backs on the cops and would get smoked.  I mean you could have shot the gimp-bomb they were trying to throw and let it blow up right in their faces.
I was thinking the same exact thing when I caught the Youtube clip of the gunfight. Some guy whose house was in the line of fire posted pics of his office and chair just blown to crap. Wonder if insurance has a clause for shootouts.

NightWolve

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57580534/fbi-interviewed-dead-boston-bombing-suspect-years-ago/

So it's getting interesting if accurate. Turns out that the FBI had interviewed a member of the "Bombing Bros. Inc." here at the request of another government (likely Russia) to see if he had any Chechen extremist ties (those are the Mohammedans fighting/terrorizing the rest of Russia to form an Islamic separatist state because we all know how well that works out. See Pakistan.) according to CBS News...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/scott/tamerlan-tsarnaevs-youtube-page-focused-on-islam

Tamerlan Tsarnaev's YouTube Page confirms a focus on Islam, he had a playlist titled Terrorists and he had a link to this "The Emergence of Prophecy: The Black Flags From Khorasan" video. "The Khorasan is considered by jihadis to be the place where they will inflict the first defeat against their enemies in the Muslim version of Armageddon. The final battle is to take place in the Levant - Israel, Syria, and Lebanon. Mentions of the Khorasan have begun to increase in al Qaeda's propaganda." - That explanation about Khorasan is according to this guy.

So there ya go... White Christian extremists that wanted to terrorize our government into lowering taxes on tax day struck again! You wish, that is... Sadly, NPR, ABC, CNN, etc. and the general Michael Moores of politics didn't get the Timothy McVeigh bomber(s) that they were hoping for! And preferably with a Facebook or Youtube account that "Liked" pages by Fox News, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc. ... Awwww. :(

retroguy

Quote from: NightWolve on 04/19/2013, 07:26 PMSo there ya go... White Christian extremists that wanted to terrorize our government into lowering taxes on tax day struck again! You wish, that is... Sadly, NPR, ABC, CNN, etc. and the general Michael Moores of politics didn't get the Timothy McVeigh bomber(s) that they were hoping for! And preferably with a Facebook or Youtube account that "Liked" pages by Fox News, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc. ... Awwww. :(
Just wait. There's been an awful lot of talk about Texas seceding lately and if they're actually stupid enough to try it (which I doubt), you'll see the extremists come out of the woodwork, especially after the Army stomps the seccesionists flat.
I am bad and that's good. I will never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.

retroguy

It's over. They got him. They were able to take him alive, as they'd hoped to. Thank the gods, there was no bloodshed and he apparently gave himself up without a fight.
I am bad and that's good. I will never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.

jlued686

#38
Quote from: NightWolve on 04/19/2013, 07:26 PMSo there ya go... White Christian extremists that wanted to terrorize our government into lowering taxes on tax day struck again! You wish, that is... Sadly, NPR, ABC, CNN, etc. and the general Michael Moores of politics didn't get the Timothy McVeigh bomber(s) that they were hoping for! And preferably with a Facebook or Youtube account that "Liked" pages by Fox News, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc. ... Awwww. :(
Give it a rest and grow the fuck up. Lord knows the "other" side doesn't have a slanted agenda. And that's just the thing: there is no "other side". Stop playing that bullshit "us vs. them" game. You fucking idiots are the reason politics in our country is such fucking horseshit. The rest of us wish you'd stop slinging shit and put your dicks away long enough to be reasonable and get something done.

They got the guy. Let's be happy. Nothing's more sickening than the "Ha Ha! He's a muslim" bullshit. And, for the record, it would've been just as sickening to hear "Ha Ha! He's a white Christian nut job."





Sorry for my "Fighting Street" worthy rant, but in a time like this, the last thing I want to see is snarky partisan bullshit.

SMF

I'm the one that thinks its a conspiracy, Tell me how these 2 kids can get access to the finish line and place suspicious packages and no one sees them until they explode?
Welcome to Prime Time B!tch

rag-time4

Quote from: SMF on 04/20/2013, 06:29 PMI'm the one that thinks its a conspiracy, Tell me how these 2 kids can get access to the finish line and place suspicious packages and no one sees them until they explode?
The official suspects had one backpack each. So where did the bomb that was detonated by police come from? http://deadspin.com/explosions-reported-at-the-boston-marathon-473008941

An eyewitness reported being told that there was a training exercise taking place. Combined with all the government guys with obscenely large black backpacks all over the place, it's a very bad look.
As far as the ID of the official suspects, one of them was reportedly seen by Jeffrey Bauman Jr, who is reported to have lost his legs in explosion 1. News reports say he was seated at the site of explosion 1 and one of the official suspects placed something at his feet. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312125/Jeff-Bauman-Man-identified-Boston-bombers-lost-legs-appealing-help-soaring-medical-costs--thousands-dollars-donations-pour-maimed-victims.html

The day of the attack, a video was released by Fox that shows a man believed to be Bauman Jr being pushed on a wheelchair by a cowboy hat wearing man named Carlos Arredondo and 2 official workers. 2:28 of this vid:
Snapshots from the vid were shared all over the place. A theory came out that the victim in the video was in fact a US veteran named Nick Vogt, who made several media appearances in 2012 after losing both of his legs overseas. Here is a forum thread on the subject, which includes some gory pics from explosion 1. I notice in the upper gory picture of the person in question, there is a weird object on his left buttock that appears to be some kind of drain or connector. It looks like the engine side of an oil filter.  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=244406.0

He can also be seen in this gif image in the upper left corner. https://i.imgur.com/ub9m4RL.gif

I've spent some time trying to check crowd shots of the site of explosion 1 to place Bauman Jr on the scene with legs but can't pick him out. He was reportedly sitting, in the crowd, not standing (which itself is a bit odd) which will make him difficult to spot in crowd shots. In the above linked gory pics, there is a hat under his head with a bright colored bill that he may have been wearing. I can't spot that hat in crowd pics either. This article reports him sitting, and has links to a few family facebook pages and photos: http://www.ibtimes.com/meet-jeff-bauman-boston-bombing-victim-graphic-wheelchair-photo-now-stable-condition-1196493#

Vogt has a facebook at 'Nick Vogt Family' with a farewell message dated April 3, which has lots of pics. At first I thought it was plausible as Vogt's hairline and facial shape appear a match but looking closer it's less likely as Vogt's ears do not appear to match up. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nick-Vogt-Family/178392405583759

I've spent some time this week really looking into this particular person due to all the talk about crisis actors surrounding Sandy Hook and the possibility of false flag events being tied to government drills using crisis actors.

The Cowboy hat guy, Carlos Arredondo, can be searched on youtube and interestingly he has appeared in news media several times. He reportedly lit a government vehicle on fire and attempted to self-immolate when he was told that he lost his son in Iraq. He also was interviewed during the Occupy Wall Street protests at Occupy Boston.

Sadler

Well, I swore to myself I wouldn't respond to this, and here I am. :(

I don't know the motivations of these two. I don't know if this was their attempt to lash out as pissed off kids, or their personal support for jihad. Hell it could be both. The reality is it doesn't matter. Whatever someone's motivations are for targeting innocents - they are evil.

IMG

To be completely honest, one of the things that pisses me off most about this is the desire to pin this on some group. Seriously, it doesn't fucking matter. Christian? Muslim? Hindu? Atheist? White? Black? Brown? It doesn't fucking matter. Trying to use this to prop up your own belief structure isn't ok. Look at what happened for what it is: a couple of fucks decided to kill innocent people.

You can scream all day that the CST guys missed it. You are right, and I'm sure those guys couldn't feel worse about it. That doesn't mean they were in on it. You can cry that these two are part of the Chechen cell in the US. I don't think that stands to reason either.

Please guys, stop trying to make this something it wasn't.

rag-time4

Quote from: Sadler on 04/20/2013, 11:48 PMWell, I swore to myself I wouldn't respond to this, and here I am. :(

I don't know the motivations of these two. I don't know if this was their attempt to lash out as pissed off kids, or their personal support for jihad. Hell it could be both. The reality is it doesn't matter. Whatever someone's motivations are for targeting innocents - they are evil.

To be completely honest, one of the things that pisses me off most about this is the desire to pin this on some group. Seriously, it doesn't fucking matter. Christian? Muslim? Hindu? Atheist? White? Black? Brown? It doesn't fucking matter. Trying to use this to prop up your own belief structure isn't ok. Look at what happened for what it is: a couple of fucks decided to kill innocent people.

You can scream all day that the CST guys missed it. You are right, and I'm sure those guys couldn't feel worse about it. That doesn't mean they were in on it. You can cry that these two are part of the Chechen cell in the US. I don't think that stands to reason either.

Please guys, stop trying to make this something it wasn't.
But what if it wasn't a lone wolf attack? What if pinning it on the two official suspects props up your own belief structure?

Sadler

Quote from: rag-time4 on 04/21/2013, 12:00 AM
Quote from: Sadler on 04/20/2013, 11:48 PMWell, I swore to myself I wouldn't respond to this, and here I am. :(

I don't know the motivations of these two. I don't know if this was their attempt to lash out as pissed off kids, or their personal support for jihad. Hell it could be both. The reality is it doesn't matter. Whatever someone's motivations are for targeting innocents - they are evil.

To be completely honest, one of the things that pisses me off most about this is the desire to pin this on some group. Seriously, it doesn't fucking matter. Christian? Muslim? Hindu? Atheist? White? Black? Brown? It doesn't fucking matter. Trying to use this to prop up your own belief structure isn't ok. Look at what happened for what it is: a couple of fucks decided to kill innocent people.

You can scream all day that the CST guys missed it. You are right, and I'm sure those guys couldn't feel worse about it. That doesn't mean they were in on it. You can cry that these two are part of the Chechen cell in the US. I don't think that stands to reason either.

Please guys, stop trying to make this something it wasn't.
But what if it wasn't a lone wolf attack? What if pinning it on the two official suspects props up your own belief structure?
They could have had support. I'm happy the younger brother survived and I think there's a good chance he'll talk. I'd love to know what the motivation for this attack is. I have serious doubts it's a US government conspiracy, but who can tell? Fast and furious was pretty alarming. If there are more in on this attack, I really hope this guy gives us as much as possible and we can prove without a doubt those responsible are responsible. At this point in the game though, I'm not ready to go Alex Jones on this.

rag-time4

Quote from: Sadler on 04/21/2013, 12:07 AM
Quote from: rag-time4 on 04/21/2013, 12:00 AM
Quote from: Sadler on 04/20/2013, 11:48 PMWell, I swore to myself I wouldn't respond to this, and here I am. :(

I don't know the motivations of these two. I don't know if this was their attempt to lash out as pissed off kids, or their personal support for jihad. Hell it could be both. The reality is it doesn't matter. Whatever someone's motivations are for targeting innocents - they are evil.

To be completely honest, one of the things that pisses me off most about this is the desire to pin this on some group. Seriously, it doesn't fucking matter. Christian? Muslim? Hindu? Atheist? White? Black? Brown? It doesn't fucking matter. Trying to use this to prop up your own belief structure isn't ok. Look at what happened for what it is: a couple of fucks decided to kill innocent people.

You can scream all day that the CST guys missed it. You are right, and I'm sure those guys couldn't feel worse about it. That doesn't mean they were in on it. You can cry that these two are part of the Chechen cell in the US. I don't think that stands to reason either.

Please guys, stop trying to make this something it wasn't.
But what if it wasn't a lone wolf attack? What if pinning it on the two official suspects props up your own belief structure?
They could have had support. I'm happy the younger brother survived and I think there's a good chance he'll talk. I'd love to know what the motivation for this attack is. I have serious doubts it's a US government conspiracy, but who can tell? Fast and furious was pretty alarming. If there are more in on this attack, I really hope this guy gives us as much as possible and we can prove without a doubt those responsible are responsible. At this point in the game though, I'm not ready to go Alex Jones on this.
That seems totally fair. Jones definitely has a small government lean. To his credit though, Infowars has presented a lot of good evidence and asked some very interesting questions.

rag-time4

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Sadler, please check out these pics of explosion 2. Top pic is pre-blast, bottom is post-blast. Bottom pic appears to be heavily doctored (blurred) but I'm confident we can see the white/grey backpack in your pic still intact behind the tree. There is a piece of a shredded black backpack near the man's foot in the middle of the street on the right side of the pic.

http://www.infowars.com/is-this-the-second-boston-bomb-just-moments-before-it-exploded-2/

EDIT ~ Looks like the latest news is that official suspect 2 has a throat injury and may not be able to talk. Surprise, surprise http://www.infowars.com/official-boston-bombing-suspect-suffers-throat-injury-may-not-be-able-to-talk/

NightWolve

#46
Quote from: guest on 04/19/2013, 09:38 PM
Quote from: NightWolve on 04/19/2013, 07:26 PMSo there ya go... White Christian extremists that wanted to terrorize our government into lowering taxes on tax day struck again! You wish, that is... Sadly, NPR, ABC, CNN, etc. and the general Michael Moores of politics didn't get the Timothy McVeigh bomber(s) that they were hoping for! And preferably with a Facebook or Youtube account that "Liked" pages by Fox News, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc. ... Awwww. :(
Give it a rest and grow the fuck up. Lord knows the "other" side doesn't have a slanted agenda. And that's just the thing: there is no "other side". Stop playing that bullshit "us vs. them" game. You fucking idiots are the reason politics in our country is such fucking horseshit. The rest of us wish you'd stop slinging shit and put your dicks away long enough to be reasonable and get something done.
Just go fuck yourself, asshole! Never liked you anyway, so fuck it, I'll break civility too seeing you didn't give a fuck either. Evidently, calling out bullshit by hacks masquerading as reporters is playing a "us vs. them" bullshit game in his world and left him all butt-hurt... I'm sorry, but no, disgusting Far Left hacks that are expert agitators, malcontents, demonizers, etc. are the reason politics in this country is such horseshit! Even before the bodies are counted, they're thinking of the Rahm Emanuel "Never let a good crisis go to waste" approach to see if they can pin an event like this on their political adversaries on the Right! They need to vigorously get called out on it and fucking STOP doing it! Hell, even natural disasters are fair game to exploit in this manner (see Hurricane Katrina) for these people!

From my earliest memory, you saw it with B.J. "Bubba" Clinton and the Timothy McVeigh bombing where he tried to pin the terrorist attack on Talk Radio, alluding to Rush Limbaugh. Last time it was the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords and the media pretending that cross hair images on districts when it comes to campaign sites had somehow begun with Sarah Palin, yet democrats had started the use years ago, all this so that they could make insinuations that the shooter was somehow a fan of hers and this might've had an influence on his actions! This allowed them to gleefully keep repeating Sarah Palin's name in the same report on a deadly shooting against a politician! Never mind the general blame they tried to assign to "partisan voices" and the "tone" and so forth to intimidate conservatives/republicans in their opposition to democrats (who had full control at the time) with this insinuation that passionate debate and argument might've had something to do with the shooting, etc. But when the shooter turned out to be a pothead nutjob, they started to back off on exploring his motivations, much like now with these two terrorists since they didn't fit the mold of what they were hoping for (right-wing anti-tax/government Christian "teabaggers"), etc.

One of the WORST cases was something I mentioned earlier with ABC News and the Batman-opening massacre where a shooter shot up 72 people, killing 12... ABC's team with Brian Ross didn't bother to first check with any official Tea Party organization after googling and matching up the shooter's name to a Tea Party member. He repeated Tea Party in this report several times. So, you're a political organization trying to win elections, you had a media constantly accusing you of racism, violent thoughts/motive, etc. and now you've got a report about a nutjob that shot up 72 people in a theater and your political organization is mentioned right along with this horrible event! Pretty damaging/slanderous to say the least! So egregious was how Ross did it and how he corrected himself ~2 hours later, that Jon Stewart, the Far Left's bad boy actually called them out on it! I've linked this elsewhere because I was so impressed that a hack like him actually showed some intellectual honesty here:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/07/24/jon-stewart-slams-brian-ross-what-story-does-guy-have-blow-get-troubl
Quote"JON STEWART, HOST: There is one area of this mess that I think is also worthy of comment, and it's the subject of our new segment: "What Story Does a Guy Have to Blow to Get in Trouble at ABC?"
That was all some context, but the overall point is I'm DISGUSTED by it and I sure as hell am gonna speak up about it! Call it whatever the fuck you want and make whatever flimsy counter-accusations that you want, but you're not gonna fucking intimidate me, asshole!

QuoteNothing's more sickening than the "Ha Ha! He's a muslim" bullshit. And, for the record, it would've been just as sickening to hear "Ha Ha! He's a white Christian nut job."
From his comments above, this asshole is either a fucking hack or ignorant! THAT is almost exactly what I am responding to and am completely disgusted by, the "Please be a white Christian nut job!!! Please!!"! But he's seemingly trying to flip the valid criticism back at the critic by characterizing what I did as, "Haha, he's a muslim bullshit!" No, you sorry fuck, this is more like, "Sorry, you monumental assholes in the MSM, you didn't get the right-wing, Christian Tea Party member that you fuckfaces were so gleefully hoping for even before there were any facts on ground, let alone the bodies counted!!! Better luck next time, assholes!" "For the record," you say ? Where the fuck have you been ??

Link Sources: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2013/04/19/suspected-boston-bomber-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-appears-have-been-obama

*MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Blames NRA For Slowing Down Investigation In Boston Bombing
*NPR Heavily Hints Boston Was Bombed by 'Anti-Government Right-Wing Individuals' Who Love Hitler
*Boston Bombing: NYT Reports, National Journal Speculates On 'Right-Wing, Antigovernment Extremist Groups'
*CNN Claims Pressure Cooker Bombs Somehow 'Signature' of Extreme Right Terrorists
*Actual Salon Headline: 'Let's Hope the Boston Marathon Bomber Is a White American'
*MSNBC Brings On Harvard Professor to Speculate 'Far Right' May Be Responsible For Boston Attack

So above is a collection of CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NY Slimes, etc. playing the "Haha, hope he's a white, right-wing nut" game or exploiting it in another way with the NRA. So for fuckface jlued686 to sort of play stupid, accuse me of playing a "Ha Ha! He's a muslim" game in response to the above outrages by news organizations and general Far Left hacks on the Internet, acting and sounding like this is the first of it he has encountered either shows ignorance or a hack nature. My reaction is to all the links I pasted above, what I am seeing, some history and it is sure as hell is a valid one!

You wanna tell somebody to "grow up," tell those people, you fucking asshole! Journalists/Reporters that have jobs at big news organizations and far more power to "sling shit" at others than little ole fucking me! You know what, yeah, I'm leaning far more towards the hack explanation. If he was just ignorant, he wouldn't put forward this "Ha Ha! He's a muslim!" characterization. He would have to already understand what motivated people to respond in such a way and he's dismissing ANY legitimacy of the rationale for it being a hack. He's playing defense for the behavior before the terrorists were fully identified while acting like he's a "middle of the roader" to boot. Seriously, fuck you cunt!

QuoteThey got the guy. Let's be happy.
Yeah, I'm happy that they got both of the bastards! Who the FUCK wouldn't be besides anti-American types ?? But, I'm also happy or rather relieved that my corrupt, hackish news media will no longer be able to demonize me, my political party of choice, philosophy, belief system, etc. over this incident like they were hoping for! Yeah, I can be happy for that too! And I AM gonna speak up about it because it's wrong, juvenile, disgusting, etc. regardless if it makes hacks like you butt-hurt! Anyway, fuck that "middle of the roader" noise that you're putting out. Sell that bullshit to somebody else. You being one of the hacks constantly butt-hurt about the very existence of Fox News tells me all I need to know. The TV media landscape needs *more* Fox News networks to balance out and fight back against the dominance of the Left in the others!

QuoteSorry for my "Fighting Street" worthy rant, but in a time like this, the last thing I want to see is snarky partisan bullshit.
So toughguy fuckface gets his own "snarky partisan bullshit" (and GENUINE bullshit at that) in before crying about it. Well, you inspired a hell of a lot more, congrats!



Quote from: Sadler on 04/20/2013, 11:48 PMTo be completely honest, one of the things that pisses me off most about this is the desire to pin this on some group. Seriously, it doesn't fucking matter. Christian? Muslim? Hindu? Atheist? White? Black? Brown? It doesn't fucking matter. Look at what happened for what it is: a couple of fucks decided to kill innocent people.
DISGUSTING is the right word and I'm not gonna stand for it! We deserve better than a corrupt, hackish news media trying to demonize conservative/Christian/republican political adversaries as, literally, enemies of the state, bombers, and/or assassins-in-waiting, just needing a little push from Talk Radio and/or Fox News per all their bullshit insinuations, etc. They think they're funny with that bullshit too, but they just build up all the more disgust for themselves!

Remember the Virginia Tech massacre ?? He was a Korean guy, and YEAH, that had ZERO bearing in what he did! It *might've* if he was from N. Korea, but he wasn't it! The White, the Black, the Brown has no bearing so I agree there. There was nothing for the media to exploit in that case to beat up on what it considers its political opposition other than to raise gun control/grabbing issues. However, ideology, belief system, etc. can have some role, so I don't totally agree with you there in a blanket dismissal of such factors. But if you're gonna fucking do it as a news organization, be fucking accurate about it rather than forward partisan "wishful hopes" about who you want the culprit to be!

QuoteTrying to use this to prop up your own belief structure isn't ok.
I dunno if you directed that at me as well, but that's not the case, and that's only if you buy the boatload of bullshit that fuckfaces like jlued686 are trying to spin in defense of what happened here! He's not the only one:

http://twitchy.com/2013/04/19/backpedal-palooza-left-no-longer-wants-to-speculate-about-bombers-motives/

"Salon news contributor David Sirota has fingers crossed for white male marathon bomber"

The pack-pedaling hypocrite then tweets, "Tweets/emails celebrating fact that suspects are (allegedly) Muslim suggests many white people were hoping that was the case. Question: Why?—"...

I doubt celebrating is the right word, extreme relief is more like it if you're on the Right in that these disgusting Far Left hacks in the media will no longer be able to collectively pin this event on you! But, in order to deter pushback, slapping them back hard for what they were doing before, they're responding with a sort of reverse accusation thinking they're fucking slick, like fuckface jlued686 here!

I see this fucking shit all the time by these ultra-partisan assholes! Take that neo-Nazi that shot like 7 people in a Sikh Temple or something, another recent example. I was looking at a Yahoo News article about it and there was a political robot (likely) in the Comments section constantly posting prepared talking points like this:

"Fox News, the chickens have come home to roost!"
"Sarah Palin, lock and reload!"
"Rush Limbaugh, the right-wing rhetoric and its deadly consequences"

You get the idea... To make sure stuff like that stayed at the top of the Comments section, as I said, some kind of bot was used because it'd get re-posted quickly and would alternate in content, in this case, between the usual Enemies' List of the Far Left (Fox News, Rush, Sarah, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, etc). I'm sure there was a lot of that kind of shit beyond what I caught with Newsbusters for this Boston event, so I don't need to drag this point on further, but yeah, I wanna give a detailed perspective on my experiences here given fuckface's reaction. Fuckface strikes me as one of those types that plays the "See No Evil" game when it's the Left, then plays a "You're the divider! No YOU are the divider! YOU YOU YOU!" game when it's the Right, etc.

jlued686

Just...fucking...wow...

Oh look, some PMs from Nightwolve. This is going to be a fun - and tedious - day.

retroguy

I am bad and that's good. I will never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.

jlued686

Ha! Really!

I feel bad for contributing to this thread getting out of hand. I've already apologized to Nightwolve for coming out guns blazing, and admitted I should've handled it better, though I doubt he cares at this point. Anyway, there's enough shitty things going on in the world without contributing to negativity on an internet forum.

Back to it...

I had to sit in a waiting room this morning with only a newspaper to pass the time, and wound up reading a lot about these two fuckwits. As much as I'd like to see him burn, I'm glad they took the younger guy alive. Not that anything he says will make his idiotic actions seem reasonable, but I would like to know more specifically why they chose that particular target.