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Started by madboom0522, 05/18/2014, 07:46 AM

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madboom0522

I have been wondering why when some people come to this forum they get bagged for being collectads While others can proudly display their items, state I am a collector and not get any headache about it. So I have to be missing something.... Maybe some of the long term members on here can give me some feedback on it?...
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Tatsujin

also non-collectards bought most of their collection bitd or during the 90s/early2k, and not only in the past 6 month.
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madboom0522

#2
So, if I am understanding this correctly.... If I grew up with the system, started buying items again around 2000 and have been adding to that I would not be a collectard? Even if I collect them while playing them? Just want to be sure I am getting this right.... Lastly if you have one of every damn platform out there, that would not make you a collectard? Why do you need every game system platform?...
Titles to complete... Caught them all....

Ninja16608

So if we don't loose interest were not collectards? I refuse to pay top dollar for a game that went for 30 - 40 bux brand new back in the day. I understand that some games and items will go for a higher price due to the rarity but 6 or 7 or even 50X the original selling price is nuts. I have loved the TG since day one and continue to love it to this day. I went hog wild on the cd games when they came out and thus my huey's suffered. I did manage to put together a few nice titles, but none that would command thousands of dollars. I do buy lots to try and get the ones I don't have but it is far and few in between and I would sell the rest back but at a reasonable price never fully recouping the money spent, but that's not the intent. The intent was/is to have a complete collection one day, so I can stop paying more than what some DOUCHE BAGS think a game is worth. Thanks Nulltard, for the explanation, this was a huge question I had too and now I know, and knowing is half the battle.....G.I. ahh you know the rest :-)

o.pwuaioc

Quote from: madboom0522 on 05/18/2014, 10:30 AMEven if I collect them while playing them?
If you buy games to play them, you're not a collectard. If you buy games for the sake of buying games...

PunkCryborg

A good example would be a member who signs up with a post like this
"Hi I just found out about the Turbografx recently and decided I want to go for a complete collection. I want everything to have the cardboard boxes and MINT.
Is there a list of games that have the boxes somewhere? Also what's a good price for Magical Chase? I've been looking for a copy now and the prices are crazy!!!"

esteban

Quote from: guest on 05/18/2014, 10:33 AM
Quote from: madboom0522 on 05/18/2014, 10:30 AMEven if I collect them while playing them?
If you buy games to play them, you're not a collectard. If you buy games for the sake of buying games...
This is the heart of it.
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SplatterTrigger

Quote from: PunkCryborg on 05/18/2014, 10:56 AMA good example would be a member who signs up with a post like this
"Hi I just found out about the Turbografx recently and decided I want to go for a complete collection. I want everything to have the cardboard boxes and MINT.
Is there a list of games that have the boxes somewhere? Also what's a good price for Magical Chase? I've been looking for a copy now and the prices are crazy!!!"
That sums it up nicely.

TheClash603

There are also people with Down Syndrome who accidentally get ahold of a Paypal account and have eBay access.  These people have been known to be called Collectards, but this is when it becomes less politically correct.

madboom0522

So basically, if you were a player and now just someone who collects you are not a colllectard?  If everything is displayed on a shelf and gets no action my understanding is that you are a collectard....
Titles to complete... Caught them all....

Ninja16608

#10
I.E. https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=11637.0

When you post 90% of your post in your own thread does this make you a collectard??????

It's funny when you shit on collectards, but support this one!!!!!

PunkCryborg

If you have to ask whether you are a collectard or not.... you probably are

Ninja16608

Quote from: PunkCryborg on 05/18/2014, 04:36 PMIf you have to ask whether you are a collectard or not.... you probably are
The question wasn't am I, it was, what constitutes a collectard lol. You would be hard pressed to find any dust on my stuff

CrackTiger

Quote from: Ninja16608 on 05/18/2014, 04:40 PM
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 05/18/2014, 04:36 PMIf you have to ask whether you are a collectard or not.... you probably are
The question wasn't am I, it was, what constitutes a collectard lol. You would be hard pressed to find any dust on my stuff
That's cuz their all fresh off your cdr burner. :dance:
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Ninja16608

#14
That too :-) too bad ya can't burn huey's. Just a side note... I have probably played more games than most people, I grew up in the arcades and with home systems. Hell I even own a bunch of arcade machines and they get plenty of use as well. In the end you won't find a more true gamer than me. Bottom line I collect to play unlike some douche bags here. Oh almost forgot you can kinda burn them i guess if you own an everdrive or flash cart....whats the use then,,, same as burning a cd but again no one gets shit for that huh....guess you have to pick and choose ......

BlueBMW

Quote from: Ninja16608 on 05/18/2014, 05:18 PMIn the end you won't find a more true gamer than me.
So what does that make the rest of us?
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Ninja16608

Quote from: BlueBMW on 05/18/2014, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Ninja16608 on 05/18/2014, 05:18 PMIn the end you won't find a more true gamer than me.
So what does that make the rest of us?
Hopefully the same, I wasn't saying there aren't others, was just saying I game, and have been for many many moons. Probably been gaming longer than some members here have been alive :-) as I am sure the guys my age have been too.

BlueBMW

I'm a snerd so I don't count anyways...
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Bernie

I collect dog turds, then I mold them into HUCARD trays and dry them well with my hair dryer.

Ninja16608

Quote from: Bernie on 05/18/2014, 05:42 PMI collect dog turds, then I mold them into HUCARD trays and dry them well with my hair dryer. 
Givin you hair dryer experience they must be minty as hell and sell real good. Can I get a few at cost to flip on ebay????

Funny shit man. (no pun intended)

Bernie

lol.  You roll with the punches, I like you.  :)

Tatsujin

Quote from: Ninja16608 on 05/18/2014, 05:18 PMThat too :-) too bad ya can't burn huey's. Just a side note... I have probably played more games than most people, I grew up in the arcades and with home systems. Hell I even own a bunch of arcade machines and they get plenty of use as well. In the end you won't find a more true gamer than me. Bottom line I collect to play unlike some douche bags here. Oh almost forgot you can kinda burn them i guess if you own an everdrive or flash cart....whats the use then,,, same as burning a cd but again no one gets shit for that huh....guess you have to pick and choose ......
let me guess, you also really like van damme and kick some shit out of sand-bags under your carport wearing flip-flops?
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PCE Shmups countdown: 111/111 (all clear!!)
Sega does what Nintendon't, but only NEC does better than both together!^^
<Senshi> Tat's i'm going to contact the people of Hard Off and open a store stateside..

madboom0522

Ahhhh.....Way too funny....
Titles to complete... Caught them all....

kakutolives

Quote from: Bernie on 05/18/2014, 05:42 PMI collect dog turds, then I mold them into HUCARD trays and dry them well with my hair dryer. 
Yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhh B)

but seriously to me the definition refers to people for the sake of collecting games and paying premiums for the sake of gloating rights and they hardly play any of their games. add insult to injury a couple of months later they sell their shit back on ebay for ridiculous prices...
Good Sellers (in my experience)
Samurai Ghost, Keith Courage, Bernie, tggodfrey, bartre (hoping to add more to this list soon)

People who are just plain Awesome:
BlueBMW (to this day i thank you for hooking me up with Sapphire and getting me started with collecting PCE games)

Ninja16608

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/18/2014, 08:16 PM
Quote from: Ninja16608 on 05/18/2014, 05:18 PMThat too :-) too bad ya can't burn huey's. Just a side note... I have probably played more games than most people, I grew up in the arcades and with home systems. Hell I even own a bunch of arcade machines and they get plenty of use as well. In the end you won't find a more true gamer than me. Bottom line I collect to play unlike some douche bags here. Oh almost forgot you can kinda burn them i guess if you own an everdrive or flash cart....whats the use then,,, same as burning a cd but again no one gets shit for that huh....guess you have to pick and choose ......
let me guess, you also really like van damme and kick some shit out of sand-bags under your carport wearing flip-flops?
No flip flops hurt, got to have shoes on and I don't have a car port :-) I am more bad ass, I do it out in the rain nekkid

jeffhlewis

Go watch most Youtube "finds" videos. Those are collectards.

Ninja16608

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 05/18/2014, 09:17 PMGo watch most Youtube "finds" videos. Those are collectards.
I agree, and the sad part is most of them fuckers really do know what they have and play stupid. I watched one guy who found a system with 10 games for 24 bux. The whole video he just kept saying I can't believe it I can't believe it it was on sale it was originally 30 but the store was having a sale blah blah blah ....kiss my french ass, or french kiss my ass, how ever you like it. Shit like that pisses me off, not because I don't find shit like that because I have but don't play dumb ass like you don't know what you have.

madboom0522

Go ninja go ninja extra shell....
Titles to complete... Caught them all....

Ninja16608

Quote from: madboom0522 on 05/18/2014, 10:37 PMGo ninja go ninja extra shell....
You forgot
wax.jpg

jeffhlewis

#29
Collectard:

I-Should-Buy-MagicalChase.jpg

Tatsujin

www.pcedaisakusen.net - home of your individual PC Engine collection!!
PCE Games countdown: 690/737 (47 to go or 93.6% clear)
PCE Shmups countdown: 111/111 (all clear!!)
Sega does what Nintendon't, but only NEC does better than both together!^^
<Senshi> Tat's i'm going to contact the people of Hard Off and open a store stateside..

NecroPhile

If your primary concern is buying and selling, you're a collectard.

Does that not accurately describe the Wondertwins 2.0?
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Ninja16608

Quote from: guest on 05/19/2014, 10:38 AMIf your primary concern is buying and selling, you're a collectard.

Does that not accurately describe the Wondertwins 2.0?
Who are the Wondertwins 2.0?

PunkCryborg

cat pic is amazing

madboom0522

Think hard ninja....You know who happiness is talking about.... Might be the same person who is only 11 games away from having the whole collection.....
Titles to complete... Caught them all....

PunkCryborg

Quote from: madboom0522 on 05/19/2014, 11:49 AMThink hard ninja....You know who happiness is talking about.... Might be the same person who is only 11 games away from having the whole collection.....
madboom0522=Ninja16608

tggodfrey

collecting an entire collection doesnt make one a collectard, its the thought process behind it.  A collectard collects just to collect and for bragging rights.  The investment concept surely follows this mentality. 

A true TG16 or any retrogamer is one who grew up with the system and plays what they buy.  The concept of building the entire collection is done with the mentality that he/she wants to play all the games they couldn't buy back then.

The money one pays doesn't mean much in my book only because whats expensive today may be cheap tomorrow depending on the economic average income.  Just 15 years ago 30.00 filled up your gas tank, today it gets you a 1/4 tank of gas.  Sure none of us wants to see the inflation of prices but what someone is willing to pay doesn't make them a collectard.  This is excluding the concept of using prices to inflate value ect.
Games currently in play:
PS3: COD Ghosts
TG16: Boxyboy

Ninja16608

Quote from: PunkCryborg on 05/19/2014, 11:58 AM
Quote from: madboom0522 on 05/19/2014, 11:49 AMThink hard ninja....You know who happiness is talking about.... Might be the same person who is only 11 games away from having the whole collection.....
madboom0522=Ninja16608
No we are two different people, with like minds, but very different.

Quote from: tggodfrey on 05/19/2014, 12:12 PMcollecting an entire collection doesnt make one a collectard, its the thought process behind it.  A collectard collects just to collect and for bragging rights.  The investment concept surely follows this mentality. 

A true TG16 or any retrogamer is one who grew up with the system and plays what they buy.  The concept of building the entire collection is done with the mentality that he/she wants to play all the games they couldn't buy back then.

The money one pays doesn't mean much in my book only because whats expensive today may be cheap tomorrow depending on the economic average income.  Just 15 years ago 30.00 filled up your gas tank, today it gets you a 1/4 tank of gas.  Sure none of us wants to see the inflation of prices but what someone is willing to pay doesn't make them a collectard.  This is excluding the concept of using prices to inflate value ect.
Ok so I would be just a collector as I do enjoy playing my games and the only reason I would have the full collection is to give each one a try. I never take anyone word for it that a game sucks or is bad because I may find some entertainment value where other have not.

ToyMachine78

This thread is hilarious.... all this "true gamer" talk.... I'm a true gamer...they're not true gamers... are you saying I'm not true gamer?..... lol give me a break!....

Ninja16608

Quote from: guest on 05/19/2014, 12:33 PMThis thread is hilarious.... all this "true gamer" talk.... I'm a true gamer...they're not true gamers... are you saying I'm not true gamer?..... lol give me a break!....
Lol no one ever said another wasn't a "true gamer" just put together the fact the some here are just here to be collectards lol

your right tho it is funny as hell.

PunkCryborg

Quote from: guest on 05/19/2014, 12:33 PMThis thread is hilarious.... all this "true gamer" talk.... I'm a true gamer...they're not true gamers... are you saying I'm not true gamer?..... lol give me a break!....
you collectard!

ToyMachine78

This thread is collectarded

Psycho Punch

#42
Quote from: Ninja16608 on 05/19/2014, 10:40 AM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 05/19/2014, 10:38 AMIf your primary concern is buying and selling, you're a collectard.

Does that not accurately describe the Wondertwins 2.0?
Who are the Wondertwins 2.0?
An 1-player only port of Two Crude Dudes gah don't post and drink kids. I thought NecroPhile was referring to adol
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madboom0522

Alright let's clarify, I was not talking about my self in regards to 11 games left... I do not list on my posts nor does my posting list a catch phrase or info about what I need.... I only wanted to understand what people thought was a collectard on here... Answers have been giving let's move on...
Titles to complete... Caught them all....

CGQuarterly

Quote from: guest on 05/18/2014, 09:03 AMI'm no authority on the subject, and in fact my confusion on the very same thing led to some friction when I first started coming here. But here is my take on it:

A collectard is someone who discovers a system and decides to make a game of Pokemon out of it. Gotta catch em all! Gotta get em fast!  Knowing very little about the platform's library or actual value of its titles, they go forth and pay top dollar for "teh rarez" regardless of there being lower priced options available. It has to be megamint, as it will sit on a shelf as a display item and receive very little if any play. Sometimes they even get thrown in acrylic prisons, thereby exacerbating the real or perceived balance of supply and demand.  This practice is not limited to "teh rarez", common titles get gobbled up from too-high BINs... multiple copies, even, so that a megamint frankencommon can be assembled.

The result of this graceful ballet of indiscriminate money slinging is that suddenly a precedent has been set in "sold" ebay history for games selling more often and at higher prices than they normally would. This results in sellers raising the base asking price of all titles, and really jacking up the asking price on "teh rarez".  A cycle which feeds itself when the common collectard loses interest in a system and takes to the eBays in effort to recoup their expenses or turn a profit, and the next collectard comes along and gobbles up the too-high BINs and perpetuates the cycle.

It is especially tragic to see a large lot go to a collectard. They already have most of what is in the lot, and will sell the dupes (after scavenging the mintiest parts) for the new inflated base price they helped to create.

The non collectard generally likes mintiness as much as the next guy, but isn't as prone to pay 100x normal price for it or buy 5 more copies trying to find a manual without creases or a card without Iinsertion marks. The collection grows at the rate of "I wanna play that one and this one" and games are added as good deals become available. They are played and cherished.
Sweet Jesus.  There should be a Wikipedia entry for "Collectard", and this post should be the body, in its entirety.

Also, YouTube "finds" videos fucking SUCK!  30 minutes to show off a small pile of shit games from Goodwill.

munchiaz

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 05/19/2014, 03:10 PM
Quote from: guest on 05/18/2014, 09:03 AMI'm no authority on the subject, and in fact my confusion on the very same thing led to some friction when I first started coming here. But here is my take on it:

A collectard is someone who discovers a system and decides to make a game of Pokemon out of it. Gotta catch em all! Gotta get em fast!  Knowing very little about the platform's library or actual value of its titles, they go forth and pay top dollar for "teh rarez" regardless of there being lower priced options available. It has to be megamint, as it will sit on a shelf as a display item and receive very little if any play. Sometimes they even get thrown in acrylic prisons, thereby exacerbating the real or perceived balance of supply and demand.  This practice is not limited to "teh rarez", common titles get gobbled up from too-high BINs... multiple copies, even, so that a megamint frankencommon can be assembled.

The result of this graceful ballet of indiscriminate money slinging is that suddenly a precedent has been set in "sold" ebay history for games selling more often and at higher prices than they normally would. This results in sellers raising the base asking price of all titles, and really jacking up the asking price on "teh rarez".  A cycle which feeds itself when the common collectard loses interest in a system and takes to the eBays in effort to recoup their expenses or turn a profit, and the next collectard comes along and gobbles up the too-high BINs and perpetuates the cycle.

It is especially tragic to see a large lot go to a collectard. They already have most of what is in the lot, and will sell the dupes (after scavenging the mintiest parts) for the new inflated base price they helped to create.

The non collectard generally likes mintiness as much as the next guy, but isn't as prone to pay 100x normal price for it or buy 5 more copies trying to find a manual without creases or a card without Iinsertion marks. The collection grows at the rate of "I wanna play that one and this one" and games are added as good deals become available. They are played and cherished.
Sweet Jesus.  There should be a Wikipedia entry for "Collectard", and this post should be the body, in its entirety.

Also, YouTube "finds" videos fucking SUCK!  30 minutes to show off a small pile of shit games from Goodwill.
Bithead 1000 makes really funny finds videos, but other than that they are pretty awful.

jeffhlewis

Most of them are just gen
Quote from: munchiaz on 05/19/2014, 03:47 PMBithead 1000 makes really funny finds videos, but other than that they are pretty awful.
My biggest problems with "finds" videos or 99% of collecting videos online:

1.) If these guys are all about acquiring this mountain of games, then why don't they have standards when it comes to condition? I.E. mixing loose carts with complete games, etc. Why go to Goodwill and pick up 40 loose carts of Army Men Sarge's Revenge and Madden 99? Mixing loose carts and CIB's on a shelf looks like dick

2.) Why do these guys say "I've been wanted to play this for a while now" about every game? Bullshit. You didn't want to play that until you saw it pop up in someone's else's dumbass YouTube video.

3.) These guys present themselves as knowledgeable members of the hobby to the viewing public, but then proceed to prove that they generally have no idea what they're talking about - incorrect facts, stating the obvious, etc.

There are, of course, exceptions to the rule but they're hard to find.

PunkCryborg

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 05/19/2014, 06:26 PM3.) These guys present themselves as knowledgeable members of the hobby to the viewing public, but then proceed to prove that they generally have no idea what they're talking about - incorrect facts, stating the obvious, etc.

There are, of course, exceptions to the rule but they're hard to find.
These guys epitomize the word collectard
How about a nice WISE bomb for ya

seieienbu

A guy I know has a mostly complete set of Turbo stuff and rails on the system for having shitty games.  He's an idiot.  If you don't like the system and you don't like the games then having a collection of it seems completely stupid to me.  I don't think that he's even played most of them. 

If the purpose of your collection is only to show off how many games you have then you're a collectard.  I'm not saying that you can't be one in other ways too; only saying that's a guaranteed way to join the club.
Current want list:  Bomberman 93

BlueBMW

For bad systems I tend to get a small sampling of games to play, some good some bad.  I have a wierd thing about crappy systems.  CD-i for example... love me dat tetris!
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