Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?

[DildoKKKobold]

As long as you have big spenders around that still haven't gotten all the originals that they want, then no. The last Magical Chase auction showed that there are two nuts out there that were willing to spend $7000 and $7100. One guy won the auction, so he has it, but the other guy that lost broadcast a message to the world that he's still out there and willing to spend $7000 on the next MC that'll come along... What kind of BIN is the next person gonna set with a copy of MC if they decide to sell it ? Even a year or two from now, they're gonna wanna find that loser from that last auction... In short, how could some sort of crash ever be predicted ? It's just wishful thinking.

Not just that, the next guys that come along and decides they need Magical Chase CIB, will think "I'd better bid $8,100, just to be safe."

I don't think the majority of people who spend obscene amounts on games think "This will be worth double soon!" as much as "I can at least get my money back if I decide to sell, and if I don't buy now, I'll have to spend double later." What would cause the crash would be the indication that collectors could not get their money back- They'd try and dump things on the market as fast as possible, which would cause the price to drop, as no one would buy. Declining prices would indicate that you couldn't get your money back.

That said, Comic Books had a catalyst to cause the crash - Marvel declaring bankruptcy. I don't know what would be the catalyst to cause the video game collector crash.

[MrFulci]

I haven't posted here, or viewed this board in a while, but thought I'd contribute here.

Prices, I feel, will go down, but I don't think too much. it's all very hard to predict.

I think in one of my last posts here, I mentioned I recall prices being tolerable before the TG16 stuff was introduced on the Wii. After that, I noticed TG-16 going up in price, faster than before. It had more exposure, more people knew of it.

Also, other points are made, about people who had this stuff as a kid, wanting it again, or to complete their collection, and having bigger wallets now, etc.

What led me to the board today, was I was thinking back on bullseye's horrible listings, the Canadian scammer, I also found out today what happened to someone I did some good trades with, and purchases, Turbografx16central. I knew he close dup in 2006, but never knew why. I found out he decided he was tired of the TG-16 collection, and sold it all as a BIN on ebay. Bullseye bought it. $3,500 for 100+ games, and some hardware. So, this seemed to be someone who picked up the hobby quick, then dumped it quick.

I have a feeling there is a lot of that out there, the people new to the system who want an instant collection, or as much as possible, as quickly as possible. The people who want to show off that they have a, "Super rare game", etc.

There are some people who had TG-16 for years, with it since the late 80s, early 90s, etc. Then, there are the people who just get into it, and really like it, or get into it, just to get into it.

I have a feeling, what will change prices quite a bit, is when collections start getting dumped.

TG-16 became a bit more, "rare" after TZD shut down. Those copies of World Sports competition sat there for years. Then, after TZD was gone, prices went up on that rather quick. Same goes for controllers, and other stuff they had in stock 'til the end.

10 years from now, 2025 or so, I'll be curious how things are. Magical Chase, while it may not ever go below $1k again, I really wonder if it will increase the same percentage. I recall about 10 years ago, ebay, a CIB Magical Chase, $600. 10 years later, I read here, it recently sold for $7,100? That's an increase of almost 12 times, in 10 years. I don't think in another 10 years, that game will appreciate another 12 times to $86,400.

Nothing much else to do, but see what happens, what big sellers will stop on ebay, what collections get dumped, and what will the limit be that people are willing to pay for certain things.

[Gentlegamer]

One thing that doesn't help "collectable" prices is ebay and the change in listing fees for unsold auctions. Resellers can put up inflated BIN listings and just sit on it, relisting it over and over at no cost without lowering the price hoping for someone to get impatient. Since the whole world is connected now, everything basically runs off the inflated ebay prices.

Auctions aren't fool proof (shill bids), but they are much better at finding the "true" price of an item based on the bidders at that particular time, i.e. just because an auction finished at $50 on Monday doesn't mean that's it's worth for an auction on Friday.

[Gentlegamer]

There is a good side to "bad" reviews!

[Mathius]

There is a good side to "bad" reviews!

Love the site! I've read it for many years now. Good to meet you.

Like I've said before you have two or so different kind of collectors. Those who have less love and appreciation for the systems and games themselves, and those like most of us that DO love and appreciate them. The former will most likely get tired of their collections once they become a hindrance, while the rest of us continue to marvel at these 8 and 16 bit machines. Their histories. At one point in the future I believe we who are in this for the right reasons will remain. Let's hope that is sooner than later.

[MrFulci]

There will be a point where prices slow this huge rise they've been doing. Certain items will always be high priced, but I can't see 10 years from now, like in the example I made, "Magical Chase" going for almost $85K in 2025 or so. Then again, it could!

Vestcunt, in an earlier page, also mentions he noticed the prices rise sharply when the TG-16 stuff became available for the Wii. Same thing I noticed, and has been mentioned here before. All fo a sudden the TG-16 had a lot more exposure. It was a system, where even people who grew up during that time weren't familiar with it.

The way some prices are right now, there is a lot of stuff I wouldn't touch. Even about 10 years ago, when I wanted a system modded for S-Video and such, I went with a Duo-R, not only because I've noticed they tend to have less problems, but also the price.

The same with Neo Geo. I don't mess with AES. MVS only for me. I'll let other people play with those crazy prices.

Speaking of people who dump collections, I remember a guy here, I can't recall the name, back in 2006 or so, he spray painted his Duo-R black? He posted here for about a year after he started buying TG-16 again. Then, he sold it all on ebay.

[neopolss]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.

[synbiosfan]

and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.

I never expected video games would be collectible period.

[esteban]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.

Dungeon Explorer II is a nice game, bro!

Same goes for NEUTOPIA II.

 

[Mathius]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable. 

I gotta disagree. Dungeon Explorer II is a stellar game, I think. ;-)

And I haven't seen NES and SNES games bottoming out yet. It's all overpriced still. $50 for Super Metroid loose is insane. I bought my complete boxed replacement copy off Amazon in '09 for around $20. My copy died on me for unknown reasons.

[DildoKKKobold]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.

Dungeon Explorer II is a nice game, bro!

Same goes for NEUTOPIA II.

 

Dude, I love Dungeon Explorer II. Epic music, translation and voice acting by the epic Working Designs, 5 player dungeon crawling... yeah, its awesome.

Neutopia II is sort of a Link to the Past lite. Its just a good game, with fun bosses and mechanics. Screw that stupid slime battle though.

[HailingTheThings]

Some guy on one of the turbografx Facebook groups was going on and on about how he just has to own Beyond Shadowgate... then later revealed that he 1) thought the game was nothing special, and 2) did not own any type of pce/tg CD system.  He wanted it purely to put on a shelf.

That is beyond stupid(gate).

[xcrement5x]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable. 

I gotta disagree. Dungeon Explorer II is a stellar game, I think. ;-)

And I haven't seen NES and SNES games bottoming out yet. It's all overpriced still. $50 for Super Metroid loose is insane. I bought my complete boxed replacement copy off Amazon in '09 for around $20. My copy died on me for unknown reasons.

Quoted for Truth.

Nintendo stuff is ridiculous, and I see no signs of it bottoming out.  When you have loose carts that regularly in the $800-$1000 range that just defies all logic too me.  What I actually see now is more folks jumping from Nintendo to other systems purely because they're much more affordable to collect for.  Traditionally Genesis stuff has been really cheap (and I loved it), but prices on it are rising fast.  GnG for the Genesis is like a $30 game CIB now, WTF?!

[Medic_wheat]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable. 

I gotta disagree. Dungeon Explorer II is a stellar game, I think. ;-)

And I haven't seen NES and SNES games bottoming out yet. It's all overpriced still. $50 for Super Metroid loose is insane. I bought my complete boxed replacement copy off Amazon in '09 for around $20. My copy died on me for unknown reasons.

Quoted for Truth.

Nintendo stuff is ridiculous, and I see no signs of it bottoming out.  When you have loose carts that regularly in the $800-$1000 range that just defies all logic too me.  What I actually see now is more folks jumping from Nintendo to other systems purely because they're much more affordable to collect for.  Traditionally Genesis stuff has been really cheap (and I loved it), but prices on it are rising fast.  GnG for the Genesis is like a $30 game CIB now, WTF?!

Thats why I have moved completly away from nintendo. Unless I find it on the cheap or at a local store I dont go looking for it on line to buy.

But now that I have gone mostly Sega it seems many more have as well which makes it feel like some mad dash to become more knowable about various sega platforms to weed out the fun games before they become uber "rare"

[neopolss]

I didnt say dungeon explorer ii was terrible, its a good game, but it ain't $200 good.  Neutopia II is the same.  I find myself wanting to love it in order to justify the price.  As someone who works in a game store, most nes and snes are worthless, with about 20 to 30 titles worth a crap, and most of it entirely reasonable to have if you don't need box, manual,and other nonsense.  Even the overhyped earthbound is well within reason with box and manual.  Tg16 is nowhere near reasonable.  Its going to drop.  Not a question of if, but when.

[Mathius]

If we're talking value no game is worth the prices retro games are going for nowadays. Dungeon Explorer II and Earthbound are both good games. They're just not $500 good. $100 good? Getting closer. Let's go for $50-$80 depending on condition. Now you are starting to get value for the experience the games offer.

[HailingTheThings]

Let's go for $50-$80 depending on condition. Now you are starting to get value for the experience the games offer.

Totally wish that was a thing.

[jordan_hillman]

I have a feeling, what will change prices quite a bit, is when collections start getting dumped.

I absolutely agree. Collectors seem tend to drop their collections for a few reasons: (1) they're "cashing" in on their "investments" by selling when the market is very high or peaking; (2) their collection becomes a burden, they grow tired of it, or they give up on acquiring the allusive "full run" of a system's titles and sell it off; or, (3) they quickly flip games for quick profit.

Right now a lot of collectors have been posting a lot of the "rare" CD titles on eBay lately, and if you've been following what they've been selling for, the first couple copies of games like Bonk 3, Godzilla, Terraforming, Super Air Zonk, etc. sold for extremely high prices, and the next couple of auctions sold for sometimes as much as $100-150 less than the earlier auctions (I recall a copy of Bonk 3 going for close to $900 and a subsequent copy went for less than $750 only about a month or so later). Now I'm not saying that a system wide price crash is eminent (it's going to be quite a few years at least), but it goes to show that once collectors start dumping their collections in large quantities the price of "rare" games drops rather quickly. Once the majority of collectors are priced out by the ever increases in "value" of "rare" games--e.g. when the market's prices have "peaked"--frustrated collectors, along with resellers and flippers, will dump their collections, and prices will inevitably drop.

Once again, I am not saying that the market drop is eminent, or even somewhat close to happening, nor am I saying that the holy grail titles of TG collecting (Magical Chase, Dynastic Hero, etc.) will loose all of their value (they certainly won't). However, they will not be able to maintain their current upward trajectory of "value," and overall TG prices will drop sometime in the future.

[jeffhlewis]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost. Honestly I'm at a dead stand-still at the moment because I've got too big of a backlog of games to play and the Facebook re-seller bullshit is driving me insane.

[Mathius]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost. Honestly I'm at a dead stand-still at the moment because I've got too big of a backlog of games to play and the Facebook re-seller bullshit is driving me insane.

They clog up the toilet that's for sure. I'm glad this site still acts as the plunger.

[NightWolve]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost. Honestly I'm at a dead stand-still at the moment because I've got too big of a backlog of games to play and the Facebook re-seller bullshit is driving me insane.

They clog up the toilet that's for sure. I'm glad this site still acts as the plunger.

Interesting analogy. Heh.

[ToyMachine78]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost. Honestly I'm at a dead stand-still at the moment because I've got too big of a backlog of games to play and the Facebook re-seller bullshit is driving me insane.

.   I agree. I've got plenty of retro stuff to keep me busy for some time, and with all the free games Microsoft is pumping out I'm buried!

[majors]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost.

EU Sonic for SMS...UPC sticker is just not worth it, amirite!

[HailingTheThings]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost.

EU Sonic for SMS...UPC sticker is just not worth it, amirite!

Yes.

[jeffhlewis]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost.

EU Sonic for SMS...UPC sticker is just not worth it, amirite!

Eh. I just said fuck it and got the EU copy. Most sites that verify complete collections don't even factor the U.S. Sonic into the equation because it's too easy to spoof.

I was thinking more of domestic Sega Genesis, Super NES and Saturn games. Shit's getting ridiculous.

[Alt-Nintega]

will there ever be???

look at the question....will there EVER be......???

of course......its like asking will humans will EVER be extinct

[HailingTheThings]

will there ever be???

look at the question....will there EVER be......???

of course......its like asking will humans will EVER be extinct

Even when we are all dead. (lol) Turbo will still keep climbing in price for no reason just because life sucks.

[NecroPhile]

After the coming apocalypse, cockroaches will be paying thousands of twinkies for a Magical Chase.  The cycle never ends.

[Sadler]

I firmly believed there would be no price crash ever until today. Lots of people appear to be dumping their TG stuff now. I can't believe beemer is letting his collection go!

[HailingTheThings]

After the coming apocalypse, cockroaches will be paying thousands of twinkies for a Magical Chase.  The cycle never ends.

lol

[BlueBMW]

I firmly believed there would be no price crash ever until today. Lots of people appear to be dumping their TG stuff now. I can't believe beemer is letting his collection go!

Hardly!  Just a bunch of the US stuff I havent been playing.  I've still got a few hundred PC engine games and as far as I know they're going no where!   I play that stuff all the time.  Its just that to play the US stuff I have to pull out the US system and deal with all that jazz...  I've still got a good 35 or so US games (all good ones mind you!) that get plenty of play and wont be going anywhere ;)

[Sadler]

That's good to hear!

I won't pretend I haven't thought about loading up an everdrive and burning a stack of ISOs then letting a lot go. The truth is I don't play it near enough, but at the end of the day I'm a victim of nostalgia. It's worth it because I still grin like an idiot in my game room.

[Medic_wheat]

That's good to hear!

I won't pretend I haven't thought about loading up an everdrive and burning a stack of ISOs then letting a lot go. The truth is I don't play it near enough, but at the end of the day I'm a victim of nostalgia. It's worth it because I still grin like an idiot in my game room.

That's the interesting part...

with flash carts (specifically everdirves since they seem to have really fine-tuned it all) in any gaming library it adds a interesting dimension. 

-With a flash cart you can browse a games entire library without ever having to swap out the game from the system. 

-That relegates a gamer's library as a show piece as its regular and active use could become stagnate.

-Many gamers say "I just want to play the game on original hardware."  Then with the ever drive and a original system that effectively accomplished just that.  Theoretically eliminating the need to collect, store, or buy the games in a systems library. 


I understand some buy the flash cart to test out games that are pricy then make a more informed choice on purchasing it.  Makes sense, but still doesn't eliminate the fact that buying the physical copy is no different then the meth you are playing it as you are still using original hardware (no emulation).

I fear that once I do pick up everdirves for each of my systems I'll end up leaving my games untouched sitting on shelves looking pretty but never being used.  But I also cannot deny the desire, usefulness, and practicality of a flash cart.   


For those who have a everdrive (be it for the TG-16 or other systems, and still collect for said system what are your thoughts?

Do you still take a game off your shelf that is already on the flashcart and play it? 

Or has the flashcart become a perminite fixture on your system?

[NecroPhile]

buying the physical copy is no different then the meth

Precisely. 

For those who have a everdrive (be it for the TG-16 or other systems, and still collect for said system what are your thoughts?

Do you still take a game off your shelf that is already on the flashcart and play it? 

Or has the flashcart become a perminite fixture on your system?

It's not difficult or time consuming to pull a game off the shelf and pop it in, so I only use my flashcart for translated roms or stuff I don't own. 

[Mathius]

I do the same as Necro. Like I said in my recent video the E.D. is great for games like Magical Chase, Coryoon, Bonk III, etc. where owning such a game just isn't logical at this time. I have the Mega Everdrive that gets used the same way. It's just a supplement. It hasn't diminished the importance of my physical game library.

[Medic_wheat]

buying the physical copy is no different then the meth

Precisely. 

For those who have a everdrive (be it for the TG-16 or other systems, and still collect for said system what are your thoughts?

Do you still take a game off your shelf that is already on the flashcart and play it? 

Or has the flashcart become a perminite fixture on your system?

It's not difficult or time consuming to pull a game off the shelf and pop it in, so I only use my flashcart for translated roms or stuff I don't own.

[HailingTheThings]

buying the physical copy is no different then the meth

Precisely. 

Beat me to it.

Also.

Everytime that I see "E.D." I think Erectile Dysfunction. Hmm...

Ever Drive.... Erectile Dysfunction....
Ever Drive.... Erectile Dysfunction.....
Ever D.... okay I'll stop. :3

[Alt-Nintega]

I was thinking the other day. If price crash happens and all the systems and games start to cost cheaper than socks (for example like $5 for games and $20 for systems), it will not be challenging and fun to collect anything. I really wanna play some of the rare and expensive titles on the actual system and not just emulators, so if I can just go and buy Order of Griffon for 10 bucks for me that is not challenging as to find that game in a hidden auction or at a flea market or garage sale.

So while I really want the price crash to happen so I can go and buy anything I want, at the same time maybe a price crash can be very bad for the collecting community. It can make things so cheap and easy, it will dissolve the collectors base and no one will care or give a fuck.

[Psycho Punch]

I was thinking the other day. If price crash happens and all the systems and games start to cost cheaper than socks (for example like $5 for games and $20 for systems), it will not be challenging and fun to collect anything. I really wanna play some of the rare and expensive titles on the actual system and not just emulators, so if I can just go and buy Order of Griffon for 10 bucks for me that is not challenging as to find that game in a hidden auction or at a flea market or garage sale.

Good luck finding late TTi releases in "teh wild".

So while I really want the price crash to happen so I can go and buy anything I want, at the same time maybe a price crash can be very bad for the collecting community. It can make things so cheap and easy, it will dissolve the collectors base and no one will care or give a fuck.

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[Medic_wheat]

buying the physical copy is no different then the meth

Precisely. 

Beat me to it.

Also.

Everytime that I see "E.D." I think Erectile Dysfunction. Hmm...

Ever Drive.... Erectile Dysfunction....
Ever Drive.... Erectile Dysfunction.....
Ever D.... okay I'll stop. :3

I am seansing a little transference in your comments

[NightWolve]

A price crash will dissolve the collector base, make collecting games that you want less challenging and fun ?? Interesting. Maybe Las Vegas would be more your thing if you want "big-spending fun." All I see happening is people that want to own originals will be able to get them finally. If the roller coaster of auctions and what not is where you found "fun" perhaps you were in it for not the best of reasons and there'll always be other systems/products to fill such needs anyway... Silly.

[Mathius]

When I get to play a rare and expensive title my first emotion is usually "Oh wow! I am actually playing 'blank!'" This is soon followed by sadness when I realize some people who actually *want* to play it probably won't get the chance.

Edit: The high price of collecting is doing way more harm than good for the above reason. It's depressing to think that some people might not get the chance to own some "rare" games they had as a child/teen.

[Medic_wheat]

When I get to play a rare and expensive title my first emotion is usually "Oh wow! I am actually playing 'blank!'" This is soon followed by sadness when I realize some people who actually *want* to play it probably won't get the chance.

Edit: The high price of collecting is doing way more harm than good for the above reason. It's depressing to think that some people might not get the chance to own some "rare" games they had as a child/teen.

What bugs me more is the price hike on non "rare" games....


There is a difference npbetween popular and rare.....


And with the shift of gamers buying the cheaper Japan version is quickly no longer an alternative.

[Mathius]

When I get to play a rare and expensive title my first emotion is usually "Oh wow! I am actually playing 'blank!'" This is soon followed by sadness when I realize some people who actually *want* to play it probably won't get the chance.

Edit: The high price of collecting is doing way more harm than good for the above reason. It's depressing to think that some people might not get the chance to own some "rare" games they had as a child/teen.

What bugs me more is the price hike on non "rare" games....


There is a difference npbetween popular and rare.....


And with the shift of gamers buying the cheaper Japan version is quickly no longer an alternative.

My panties are now bunched.

[Alt-Nintega]

no i'm not a collector.  I wish a price crash would happen so I can get the games I want. All I did was point out that hobby will  die out if things are not desirable "expensive" anymore.

[Alt-Nintega]

I was thinking the other day. If price crash happens and all the systems and games start to cost cheaper than socks (for example like $5 for games and $20 for systems), it will not be challenging and fun to collect anything. I really wanna play some of the rare and expensive titles on the actual system and not just emulators, so if I can just go and buy Order of Griffon for 10 bucks for me that is not challenging as to find that game in a hidden auction or at a flea market or garage sale.

So while I really want the price crash to happen so I can go and buy anything I want, at the same time maybe a price crash can be very bad for the collecting community. It can make things so cheap and easy, it will dissolve the collectors base and no one will care or give a fuck.

uhm.... are you the same guy who joined in on the wmac bashfest? You realize that your beliefs as stated above align you with wmac, no?

In my opinion, there is no way that less expensive obey is bad for those who obey. I don't get how that can be bad for anyone who actually cares about the system and games and enjoys playing them. I couldn't care less if stamp, coin, and card collectors opt out of lining their shelves with pce/tg16 stuff.

I said I want the price crash to happen. No need to panic. Everything is ok.

[HailingTheThings]

no i'm not a collector.  I wish a price crash would happen so I can get the games I want. All I did was point out that hobby will  die out if things are not desirable "expensive" anymore.

Hmmm...

buying the physical copy is no different then the meth

Precisely. 

Beat me to it.

Also.

Everytime that I see "E.D." I think Erectile Dysfunction. Hmm...

Ever Drive.... Erectile Dysfunction....
Ever Drive.... Erectile Dysfunction.....
Ever D.... okay I'll stop. :3

I am seansing a little transference in your comments

You're a seansing a little transference in your commetns

[NecroPhile]

So while I really want the price crash to happen so I can go and buy anything I want, at the same time maybe a price crash can be very bad for the collecting community. It can make things so cheap and easy, it will dissolve the collectors base and no one will care or give a fuck.

Good.  Fuck the "collecting community".

[VestCunt]

So while I really want the price crash to happen so I can go and buy anything I want, at the same time maybe a price crash can be very bad for the collecting community. It can make things so cheap and easy, it will dissolve the collectors base and no one will care or give a fuck.

Oh no! All of those poor parasites, profiteers, and narcissists.

All I did was point out that hobby will  die out if things are not desirable "expensive" anymore.

Turbo gaming kicked ass long before the collecting community came along.

[Mathius]

So while I really want the price crash to happen so I can go and buy anything I want, at the same time maybe a price crash can be very bad for the collecting community. It can make things so cheap and easy, it will dissolve the collectors base and no one will care or give a fuck.

Oh no! All of those poor parasites, profiteers, and narcissists.

All I did was point out that hobby will  die out if things are not desirable "expensive" anymore.

Turbo gaming kicked ass long before the collecting community came along.

Damn right it did.