What is the difference: Arcade Card - Arcade Pro

[Ayce]

I hope I didn't make a mistake on the card that I'm bidding on... I opted for the Pro Card.

[PunkCryborg]

pro will work on both duo and cd rom so you are cool. Duo only works on Duos but its generally cheaper

[ClodBusted]

Do the Arcade Duo cards also work with the Super CD-ROM unit?

[schweaty]

Do the Arcade Duo cards also work with the Super CD-ROM unit?

yes... the Arcade Duo is for the Duo, Duo-R, Duo-RX, and Super CD-ROM2.  The Arcade Pro is for a CD-ROM2 in IFU set-up

[Ayce]

Perfect! I really want to get some of those Neo-Geo conversions for the TG16 I would have been upset if I couldn't play them on my TG16 (even though I already have them for my AES and MVS).

[spenoza]

The FAQ-style answer is:

The Arcade Card Pro includes the Super CD-ROM BIOS code and the Super CD-ROM RAM in addition to the Arcade CD-ROM RAM. This allows the AC Pro to be used in any CD-ROM capable system.

The Arcade Card Duo ONLY includes the Arcade CD-ROM RAM. This means it can only be used with systems that already provide their own built-in Super CD-ROM BIOS code and RAM expansion. This means that if you have to provide a Super CD-ROM card to play Super CD-ROM games, the AC Duo will NOT work with your system.

[SuperPlay]

I pulled together this 'System Card Version Guide' a while back that you may find interesting, or not ;-)

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8411.0

[Ayce]

That was a good read... but now I have a question for you.

I plan on buying Altered Beasts, what do you mean the 1.0 card is the only one that allows that game to play flawlessly?

[Opethian]

that game is bugged to shit with any other system card. Also its a terrible port (not that the card version is any better)

[NecroPhile]

That was a good read... but now I have a question for you.

I plan on buying Altered Beasts, what do you mean the 1.0 card is the only one that allows that game to play flawlessly?

It means if you want to play Altered Beast (CD) without flaws, you need a 1.0 card.  It's plain english.

[Ayce]

That was a good read... but now I have a question for you.

I plan on buying Altered Beasts, what do you mean the 1.0 card is the only one that allows that game to play flawlessly?

It means if you want to play Altered Beast (CD) without flaws, you need a 1.0 card.  It's plain english.

You really can't resist can you? That sort of compulsion can't be healthy... you may want to get that checked out.

Let me rephrase my question so that even you can understand. What kind of issues does Altered Beasts have when being played using a card other than the 1.0 on the PCECD?
Since the answer

[Opethian]

I believe its the stage 2 boss that it crashes on

[NecroPhile]

You really can't resist can you? That sort of compulsion can't be healthy... you may want to get that checked out.

I have a low tolerance for lazy people that can't be bothered to use search.

Let me rephrase my question so that even you can understand. What kind of issues does Altered Beasts have when being played using a card other than the 1.0 on the PCECD?

If you're fully transformed into the beast, the game freezes when you reach any boss; the only way to beat 'em is to stay human.

Since the answer

..... to all your questions can be found through search?

[Trenton_net]

I have a low tolerance for lazy people that can't be bothered to use search.

I have to agree. This is a pretty basic question anyone can read up on.

If you're fully transformed into the beast, the game freezes when you reach any boss; the only way to beat 'em is to stay human.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can never fight a boss if your not fully powered up. Rather, you'll keep playing the same level in a loop until you get enough power orbs to do so. I was never personally able to get to any boss unless I was fully powered in beast form.

[NecroPhile]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can never fight a boss if your not fully powered up. Rather, you'll keep playing the same level in a loop until you get enough power orbs to do so. I was never personally able to get to any boss unless I was fully powered in beast form.

You have to get to the boss three times as a human before he'll fight you, or so says Joe; I'm not enough of a masochist to try doing it myself.

[Trenton_net]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can never fight a boss if your not fully powered up. Rather, you'll keep playing the same level in a loop until you get enough power orbs to do so. I was never personally able to get to any boss unless I was fully powered in beast form.

You have to get to the boss three times as a human before he'll fight you, or so says Joe; I'm not enough of a masochist to try doing it myself.

I guess that would explain it. I never had the will power to intentionally throw three rounds of the same guff just to see if I could fight the boss gimped. :-)

[Ayce]

You really can't resist can you? That sort of compulsion can't be healthy... you may want to get that checked out.

I have a low tolerance for lazy people that can't be bothered to use search.

Let me rephrase my question so that even you can understand. What kind of issues does Altered Beasts have when being played using a card other than the 1.0 on the PCECD?

If you're fully transformed into the beast, the game freezes when you reach any boss; the only way to beat 'em is to stay human.

Since the answer

..... to all your questions can be found through search?

By your train of thought... every question that should ever be asked on the forum must first be searched for via the search function. Got it! That makes perfect sense

For those of you who were not lazy to type a 5 second answer. Thank you.

[Opethian]

Is it too difficult to use? I mean why do forums have a search function? The forums existed before you, you aren't breaking any new ground Copernicus. Do you see why people are cynical? You turned a sub-second search query into a "5 second answer". Thanks for all the free posts. I hope the next person who isn't too "lazy" to respond to you fills you full of misinformation...

[turbokon]

The arcade card pro is for pros like me while the arcade card duo is for people like you;). Someone told me this when I asked what's the difference is between the two back when I was a noob to the pce scene (1999).

[ClodBusted]

The arcade card pro is for pros like me while the arcade card duo is for people like you;)

Indeed.

[ishiyakazuo]

By your train of thought... every question that should ever be asked on the forum must first be searched for via the search function. Got it! That makes perfect sense

In the Google Age, I'm surprised this isn't everyone's mindset to begin with, honestly...
But look at the corrolary: if anyone asked any question that popped into their heads without checking if it's been asked, people would spend all their time answering the questions that've been asked a number of times before, even if that particular question hasn't been asked for months or years.
That being said, pointing to the thread that answers it and then suggesting that someone search in the future is probably the ideal solution.

[Ayce]

Some of us don't have as much time as others. I understand that the search function is useful and I do use it on every forum I visit. Though when a question is on topic I don't the reason to give someone the third degree.

Often times using a search feature you have to put in a significant amount of time to find the correct answers... otherwise you run into things like was just mentioned above. And in the quote below:

The arcade card pro is for pros like me while the arcade card duo is for people like you;)

There comes a point where answering a question is much simpler than whining and complaining about people not using the search feature. I think that most of the conversation on this forum is filled asinine debates such as this one.

[TurboXray]

If you don't need the Pro card, then I would avoid it. It's usually more expensive, but the real downside is it also has more chips/ram/parts as well. That means you have a greater chance of something dying and the card malfunctioning. I had a Pro card; it died after several years of use.

[spenoza]

While this particular information is pretty easy to find, I have to admit I find more forum search tools in general to be only marginally useful.

[NecroPhile]

Though when a question is on topic I don't the reason to give someone the third degree.

It wasn't exactly on-topic, seeing as it had nothing to do with Arcade Cards. 

Often times using a search feature you have to put in a significant amount of time to find the correct answers...

Yep, it's not always easy, but thankfully not everyone is a lazy turd that wants everyone else to do his work for him.

You obviously have this research thing down pat, so I bet your book is gonna be GREAT!

There comes a point where answering a question is much simpler than whining and complaining about people not using the search feature.

Not really.  Unlike your lazy ass, I actually spent a couple minutes looking up how many rounds it takes before the boss will fight and to see who originally had made the post; trenton was worth the effort, whereas you are not.

I think that most of the conversation on this forum is filled asinine debates such as this one.

Nobody has a gun to your head.....

[ishiyakazuo]

Some of us don't have as much time as others. I understand that the search function is useful and I do use it on every forum I visit. Though when a question is on topic I don't the reason to give someone the third degree.

Gotta say, you're spending a lot of time complaining about someone telling you to use the search feature... far more than actually using it would've taken ;)

[esteban]

This thread. More amusing than it ought to be.

[PixyJunket]

All I know is that the Arcade Card Pro looks much cooler that the Arcade Card Duo.

Alas, it was far more expensive and I eventually found a Duo for a nice price.

[Ayce]

If you don't need the Pro card, then I would avoid it. It's usually more expensive, but the real downside is it also has more chips/ram/parts as well. That means you have a greater chance of something dying and the card malfunctioning. I had a Pro card; it died after several years of use.

No I do need it. I've already purchased Fatal Fury 2, and I plan on getting more of the games that support its use.

While this particular information is pretty easy to find, I have to admit I find more forum search tools in general to be only marginally useful.

Glad to see someone else realizes it.

[Otaking]

If you don't need the Pro card, then I would avoid it. It's usually more expensive, but the real downside is it also has more chips/ram/parts as well. That means you have a greater chance of something dying and the card malfunctioning. I had a Pro card; it died after several years of use.

No I do need it. I've already purchased Fatal Fury 2, and I plan on getting more of the games that support its use.

I think he meant if you're going to get an Arcade Card if you can (depending on hardware) choose the Arcade Duo over the Arcade Card Pro.

[Ayce]

Yeah I've got a modded TG16/CD system.