Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[CrackTiger]

Yes don't underestimate shill bidding to prop up the "value."

I'm convinced this is a much bigger problem than people give it credit for.

Read through the first couple hundred pages of this thread and you'll find lots of cross referenced proof of specific people doing it in an ongoing basis.

At the same times you'll also see plenty of collectards complaining that we're just insecure whiners who just wish that prices weren't "legitimately" high and that we "just want free games".

[Mzo]

I actually found a few Turbo games at PAX East, but the prices were gross.  A 4-in-1 for $100, Lords of Thunder and Dragon Slayer for $150 each... bleah.

[technozombie]

Yes don't underestimate shill bidding to prop up the "value."

I'm convinced this is a much bigger problem than people give it credit for.

Read through the first couple hundred pages of this thread and you'll find lots of cross referenced proof of specific people doing it in an ongoing basis.

At the same times you'll also see plenty of collectards complaining that we're just insecure whiners who just wish that prices weren't "legitimately" high and that we "just want free games".

I was speaking of the population at large as opposed to the astute members here. Sadly, EBay has become the determiner of value for almost everyone from second hand stores to flee markets. I've seen people print off sold ebay  listings and display them at garage sales for maximum profit.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I actually found a few Turbo games at PAX East, but the prices were gross.  A 4-in-1 for $100, Lords of Thunder and Dragon Slayer for $150 each... bleah.

Did you punch the seller in the mouth?

I would have.

Anyway, shill bidding from fucktards and their buddies who run shitty stores drives prices up.

The OTHER thing that drives prices up?

Stupidfucks like the retards that block me on Facebook when I tell them they fucked up on their prices.

AKA:  Impatient noobs that need shit RIGHT NOW, because the Yubtubs told them about the Turbo.

I HAVE TO HAVE THIS STUFF NOW I NEED TO POST PICTURES ON FACEBOOK TO SHOW OFF MY I MEAN, I NEED TO PLAY IT IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE I AM SUCH A COOL, HIP YOUNG KID GETTING INTO THE RETROBES.

Those people are a severe problem.   Ignorant noobs that think they're experts in this shit because they all sit in a few groups and stroke their cocks together.   They establish dumb prices by buying things and then validating each other.   

NAH MAN, THAT SHIT (Keith Courage) IS RARE.  YOU DID GOOD PAYING 20$ FOR IT.  DON'T LISTEN TO THE IDIOTS (Longtime TG/PCE collectors that know things.).




I keep a list of these dumbasses, so if any of them try buying anything from Aetherbyte, I can just refund the money.

[Gentlegamer]

Anyway, shill bidding from fucktards and their buddies who run shitty stores drives prices up.

Speaking of shill bidding, here is a non OBEY auction for SNES Hagane.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hagane-The-Final-Conflict-SNES-SFC-Super-Nintendo-Super-Famicom-/111619344179?

It started at $0.99. It's at $535. Check out the bid history.

[MrFlutterPie]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=891011490941386&set=gm.10152607193316556&type=1&theater

This guy wants $35 for a Turbo back cover.  As in ONLY the back cover nothing else.

I wonder if he thinks a complete loose system is worth $200

[seieienbu]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=891011490941386&set=gm.10152607193316556&type=1&theater

This guy wants $35 for a Turbo back cover.  As in ONLY the back cover nothing else.

I wonder if he thinks a complete loose system is worth $200

Man.  I should put up the two that I have for $50 BIN.

...you're better off buying back covers in bulk, ya know?

[bob]

Anyway, shill bidding from fucktards and their buddies who run shitty stores drives prices up.

Speaking of shill bidding, here is a non OBEY auction for SNES Hagane.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hagane-The-Final-Conflict-SNES-SFC-Super-Nintendo-Super-Famicom-/111619344179?

It started at $0.99. It's at $535. Check out the bid history.

Fucking idiots

[Gredler]

Anyway, shill bidding from fucktards and their buddies who run shitty stores drives prices up.

Speaking of shill bidding, here is a non OBEY auction for SNES Hagane.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hagane-The-Final-Conflict-SNES-SFC-Super-Nintendo-Super-Famicom-/111619344179?

It started at $0.99. It's at $535. Check out the bid history.

Wow. I am no expert on ebay, so can someone with more experience explain this? It looks as though the same person bid higher and higher with no one else bidding to make the price raise, or is it that the person put a max bid in and the other bids have been lower each time, so that is raising the  bid? That's a good game, but 535 is so high, I can't believe that is justifiable. I must need a better career, hahah

[mickcris]

or is it that the person put a max bid in and the other bids have been lower each time, so that is raising the  bid?

I think that is whats happening.  Instead of that person just entering $535 the first time, they kept trying to increase it slowly to find the other persons max bid I guess.  You can look at the bid times to see when they were entered.  The $525 was from the day before.

[NecroPhile]

The idiot with 30 feedback keeps bidding slightly higher than the current high bidder whose max bid is much higher, thus automatically outbidding the 'tard.  Click on 'show automatic bids' to see 'em.

[Gredler]

The idiot with 30 feedback keeps bidding slightly higher than the current high bidder whose max bid is much higher, thus automatically outbidding the 'tard.  Click on 'show automatic bids' to see 'em.

So this is for real? I can't believe the game is going for that much. I've played it on an emulator and it's very good, I enjoyed what I played a lot and would pay retail release price for it if I could (~60$+inflation or so) but I can't imagine going that high for a single game. It's a crazy world we live in today, sad.

[mickcris]

Hagane and Aero Fighters seem to be the most expensive normal SNES carts.  If you want the box too, its even more lol:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hagane-The-Final-Conflict-Super-Nintendo-SNES-Rare-Complete-cart-is-near-mint-/161523898041

[ToyMachine78]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=891011490941386&set=gm.10152607193316556&type=1&theater

This guy wants $35 for a Turbo back cover.  As in ONLY the back cover nothing else.

I wonder if he thinks a complete loose system is worth $200

I know... I've been looking for a back cover. Mine disappeared over the years since it wasn't attached. I refuse to pay fucktard prices though.

[bob]

Tbone relisted dragon slayer for $520

I wont even post link

[cjameslv]

Tbone relisted dragon slayer for $520

I wont even post link

Yeah hes on his 3rd or 4th relist of that so far..

[Mathius]

I played Hagane on my SD2SNES cart, and even though it's from our beloved Hudson Soft I didn't find the game very engaging.

[poponon]

I played Hagane on my SD2SNES cart, and even though it's from our beloved Hudson Soft I didn't find the game very engaging.

I'm surprised that you found Hagane not to be engaging. The gameplay is so on point! Nothing feels cheap, rather all the challenges of the game feel perfectly executed. Once you master a certain level, it feels great and you'll consistently be able to beat it. What didn't you like about it?

[Mathius]

I played Hagane on my SD2SNES cart, and even though it's from our beloved Hudson Soft I didn't find the game very engaging.

I'm surprised that you found Hagane not to be engaging. The gameplay is so on point! Nothing feels cheap, rather all the challenges of the game feel perfectly executed. Once you master a certain level, it feels great and you'll consistently be able to beat it. What didn't you like about it?

I talk about atmosphere in games all the fucking time. The game's backgrounds, music, and level design just weren't as full of spirit as they could've been. So, in essence I thought the game's atmosphere was a little shallow thanks mainly to it's uninspired level design.

[poponon]

I talk about atmosphere in games all the fucking time. The game's backgrounds, music, and level design just weren't as full of spirit as they could've been. So, in essence I thought the game's atmosphere was a little shallow thanks mainly to it's uninspired level design.

I agree the artstyle may be a bit lacking, but the gameplay is too good and carries the rest of the game. The tight controls feel awesome once mastered - flipping around, jumping off enemies heads, dodging. Feels like executing a combo. The somber ending of the game ends up fitting the art style also

[Mathius]

I talk about atmosphere in games all the fucking time. The game's backgrounds, music, and level design just weren't as full of spirit as they could've been. So, in essence I thought the game's atmosphere was a little shallow thanks mainly to it's uninspired level design.

I agree the artstyle may be a bit lacking, but the gameplay is too good and carries the rest of the game. The tight controls feel awesome once mastered - flipping around, jumping off enemies heads, dodging. Feels like executing a combo. The somber ending of the game ends up fitting the art style also

I will give it another chance

...just for you.

[poponon]

I will give it another chance

...just for you.

No pressure :^)

[Gentlegamer]

for you.

You're a big guy.

[poponon]

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[technozombie]

How much eBay cares:

[esadajr]

if only people had principles and stopped supporting this gougers/speculators/dealers

[MNKyDeth]

Ok.. I understand I am a bit new around here but I decided to check out ebay and a few other sites that list games for the TG16/Duo and I was literally blown away by the pricing of some select games.

I may enjoy the games on this console but in all honesty.... Who in their right mind would pay over $100 for a video game? The most I ever paid was when Phantasy Star 4 came out at the local Electronics Boutique for $90. I had that game day one.

Other than that I have never paid more than $50 for a game. Even the new consoles I wait till the prices drop below $50.

But I digress. I thought I could grab a few games from my past that I knew I missed out on but looks like I will just be burning some discs it seems. I may have some old systems but I never collected anything from/for them. Guess most of my gear is collectible now. Glad I have something to fall back on in another 30yrs'ish when I retire.

[NecroPhile]

The majority of titles can be had for less than $100, especially when it comes to PCE games.  And look on the bright side: at least the pricey games will maintain worth, whereas a $50 game on a modern console will likely be worth $5 a couple years later.

[MNKyDeth]

Well, looking back over what is listed you are right. I think it was just a bit of sticker shock for me.

I think I am content with what I have and feel no need to purchase anything listed there. I am just glad I am able to experience what I do have

[DildoKKKobold]

Just got a message from eBay, that I thought would be of interest. I pulled out specific parts. There is often the question here of "Why doesn't eBay punish people for continually listing and relisting absurd, above market BINs?" Well, it appears instead of ignoring it, they are pushing sellers to list BINs, and actually encourage it.

... Adjustments to monthly allotments of free listings. eBay will update the monthly allotments of free listings*—zero insertion fees—for both eBay Stores subscribers and sellers without an eBay Store...

... A $1 special duration feature fee per listing for sellers who choose 1- or 3-day auction-style listings. Charging this fee will help discourage the use of shorter durations where they are least successful...

... Consider listing fixed price more often, especially for items that have a clear market value or when you know the price you want for your item. List auction-style for premium items when the value may fluctuate, when price is unknown, or when there is intense buyer demand for a limited item....

[BigusSchmuck]

Ok.. I understand I am a bit new around here but I decided to check out ebay and a few other sites that list games for the TG16/Duo and I was literally blown away by the pricing of some select games.

I may enjoy the games on this console but in all honesty.... Who in their right mind would pay over $100 for a video game? The most I ever paid was when Phantasy Star 4 came out at the local Electronics Boutique for $90. I had that game day one.

Other than that I have never paid more than $50 for a game. Even the new consoles I wait till the prices drop below $50.

But I digress. I thought I could grab a few games from my past that I knew I missed out on but looks like I will just be burning some discs it seems. I may have some old systems but I never collected anything from/for them. Guess most of my gear is collectible now. Glad I have something to fall back on in another 30yrs'ish when I retire.

Its really been like that for years since retro gaming collecting has become the "hip" thing to do. You think overpriced Turbo games are bad, look at the Neo Geo AES games! There are some that regularly go over the $1,000 mark and beyond whereas Turbo games you have maybe 2 or 3 that are over that mark.

[seieienbu]

Ok.. I understand I am a bit new around here but I decided to check out ebay and a few other sites that list games for the TG16/Duo and I was literally blown away by the pricing of some select games.

I may enjoy the games on this console but in all honesty.... Who in their right mind would pay over $100 for a video game? The most I ever paid was when Phantasy Star 4 came out at the local Electronics Boutique for $90. I had that game day one.

Counting for inflation, that's like $140 2015 dollars plus tax.

[Miracle_Warrior]

The most I ever paid was when Phantasy Star 4 came out at the local Electronics Boutique for $90. I had that game day one.

You probably couldn't have picked a better game to drop 90 bucks on at the time.  PS IV was incredible!  Imagine being one of the poor fools who picked up some lame N64 game for 90 bucks when it came out?  Superman 64 anyone?

[BigusSchmuck]

The most I ever paid was when Phantasy Star 4 came out at the local Electronics Boutique for $90. I had that game day one.

You probably couldn't have picked a better game to drop 90 bucks on at the time.  PS IV was incredible!  Imagine being one of the poor fools who picked up some lame N64 game for 90 bucks when it came out?  Superman 64 anyone? 

Imagine paying $200 for Legend of Success Joe for the Neo Geo. That would have sucked indeedy.

[geise]

LoL.  I remember when Magician Lord AES was a $30 game.

[CrackTiger]

LoL.  I remember when Magician Lord AES was a $30 game.

Do you mean MVS? The AES version has some erratic inflation due to ignorant collectards overpaying for it because the MVS version skyrocketed. But the AES version still sells for $50 CIB at the same time.

[Mathius]

LoL.  I remember when Magician Lord AES was a $30 game.

Do you mean MVS? The AES version has some erratic inflation due to ignorant collectards overpaying for it because the MVS version skyrocketed. But the AES version still sells for $50 CIB at the same time.

I thought the AES version inflated to insanity recently?

[EvilEvoIX]

Not that I have seen Magician Lord MVS is much higher for a MVS cart than an AES Cart.

[CrackTiger]

LoL.  I remember when Magician Lord AES was a $30 game.

Do you mean MVS? The AES version has some erratic inflation due to ignorant collectards overpaying for it because the MVS version skyrocketed. But the AES version still sells for $50 CIB at the same time.

I thought the AES version inflated to insanity recently?

Some sell or are made to appear to sell for stupid prices, but there are at least as many selling for half as much in comparable completeness. It's just collectards mistakingly paying too much for the wrong version, like when common PCE games get inflated due to a Turbo version becoming sought after. Once the MVS version became sought after, the supply was still very slim. So it was often hard to find a copy for sale at any price. Meanwhile, plenty of AES versions were available everywhere all along.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&ghostText=&_sacat=0&_nkw=magian+lord+mvs&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=magian+lord+mvs&LH_Complete=1&_from=R40&LH_Sold=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmagian+lord+aes.TRS0&_nkw=magian+lord+aes&ghostText=&_sacat=0

[HailingTheThings]

Looks like Massaka is at it again.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-In-Factory-Packaging-Turbo-Grafx-16-Turbo-Stick-/251897706053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa645f645

#jokes #BowersBasement #KingKoopaBlowsHisLoad

[IrishNinja]

The most I ever paid was when Phantasy Star 4 came out at the local Electronics Boutique for $90. I had that game day one.

You probably couldn't have picked a better game to drop 90 bucks on at the time.  PS IV was incredible!  Imagine being one of the poor fools who picked up some lame N64 game for 90 bucks when it came out?  Superman 64 anyone? 

+1, i used a $100 EB gift certificate and barely had enough change to get the bus back home.  worse yet, it was my first genesis game with a cardboard box (and vajello art, ugh) and b&w manual!  still, one of my top 10 JRPG's to date, really can't complain looking back.

[EvilEvoIX]

LoL.  I remember when Magician Lord AES was a $30 game.

Do you mean MVS? The AES version has some erratic inflation due to ignorant collectards overpaying for it because the MVS version skyrocketed. But the AES version still sells for $50 CIB at the same time.

I thought the AES version inflated to insanity recently?

Some sell or are made to appear to sell for stupid prices, but there are at least as many selling for half as much in comparable completeness. It's just collectards mistakingly paying too much for the wrong version, like when common PCE games get inflated due to a Turbo version becoming sought after. Once the MVS version became sought after, the supply was still very slim. So it was often hard to find a copy for sale at any price. Meanwhile, plenty of AES versions were available everywhere all along.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&ghostText=&_sacat=0&_nkw=magian+lord+mvs&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=magian+lord+mvs&LH_Complete=1&_from=R40&LH_Sold=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmagian+lord+aes.TRS0&_nkw=magian+lord+aes&ghostText=&_sacat=0

This is CRAZY!!!  It's a $20-$40 AES game tops and I wouldn't pay more than $50 for MVS.  It's a common game just the collectards blowing up the price.

[GoldenWheels]

get your "100% BRAND NEW VERY RAER Turbo Grafx 16 System Keeper officially licensed" for only $399.00...and the shipping is just 15$!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-BRAND-NEW-VERY-RAER-Turbo-Grafx-16-System-Keeper-officially-licensed-/321710565253?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae771a785

[blueraven]

You know, I found this auction last night but was too tired to post it.

Nice of him to show that he has about 10 of them.

[CrackTiger]

Not just regular RAER, VERY RAER.

[GoldenWheels]

You know, I found this auction last night but was too tired to post it.

Nice of him to show that he has about 10 of them.

I know. It's shitty either way but showing all of them  just makes it 

[MotherGunner]

How do these look with the system in it anyways?  And I noticed that it's not even featured in the "Turbo Gear" catalog...

[CrackTiger]

How do these look with the system in it anyways?  And I noticed that it's not even featured in the "Turbo Gear" catalog...

It's easy to find all kinds of neon orange items and print up TG-16 tags for them.

[LostFlunky]

get your "100% BRAND NEW VERY RAER Turbo Grafx 16 System Keeper officially licensed" for only $399.00...and the shipping is just 15$!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-BRAND-NEW-VERY-RAER-Turbo-Grafx-16-System-Keeper-officially-licensed-/321710565253?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae771a785

Well, this just confirms what I suspected a long time ago (and may have posted about many pages back) and that is that this same guy has multiple accounts and uses them to manipulate prices....

He used a different account, "raregamesystem" to buy one of those system keepers from me a couple years ago...

[Sparky]

what the f@ck is a "Keeper",  is it an orange bag that holds your system?