Current price of Dracula X?

[xcrement5x]

Manuals still contain some original artwork and story that pertains to the actual game, understandable. Cases keep the game in a protective cover with original artwork.  spine cards ____ ??

Look at tknjin's two examples and you'll see that some spine cards have rudimentary art (even if it's just the game logo) and a short game description.

Yeah, some that are really well done will extend the cover art to the edge of the case.  Sol Feace and Time Gal on the Mega CD are two examples I can think of off the top of my head. 

@poponon, Don't stress out on it, it's not like your game will no longer worth without the obi or something.  I like to keep them because they're a neat addition, but they add nothing to the gameplay. 

[Trenton_net]

Was a year or two ago, but I think I got my copy of the game for like $89 or something about that range.

[tknjin]

All in all it will be worth the 130 you spend on the game because trust me you will always pop that game back into your PC engine many times just to play it through. Also I would make sure that the CD case has not really yellowed because you are throwing down some hard cash.

[CGQuarterly]

All in all it will be worth the 130 you spend on the game because trust me you will always pop that game back into your PC engine many times just to play it through. Also I would make sure that the CD case has not really yellowed because you are throwing down some hard cash. 

It is super easy to get a replacement white CD tray.

Edit:

THREAD UPDATE:  I just checked, and my copy of Drac X does have the spine card.  Thank fuck for that.  I was about to just throw the whole fucking thing in the garbage.  I had a quick look through the rest of my collection, which I now realize is worthless, for the most part.

[Gentlegamer]

I'll dispose of your trash, Jibbajaba.

[jtucci31]

All in all it will be worth the 130 you spend on the game because trust me you will always pop that game back into your PC engine many times just to play it through. Also I would make sure that the CD case has not really yellowed because you are throwing down some hard cash. 

It is super easy to get a replacement white CD tray.

I just replaced my yellow-ing cd tray on my Drac X with a much whiter one. Now the value has gone up by at least $20!

[Sarumaru]

Oh gosh, spine cards... I feel like if the game has it then cool! If it doesn't, who cares? As far as displaying them goes, I'm with Black Tiger on this. Unless these games are displayed facing outward, (like on a wall maybe) side-by-side in a shelf would just look unappealing and asymmetrical to me. Not to mention that if I wanted to play a game, I would just... want to play it, not turn it into the ritual of carefully unpacking part of a mantle piece of LOOK I HAZ COMPLEET GAME. Don't get me wrong, if you do collect spine cards, good for you. You like 'em cuz you like 'em and that's all that should matter. For me, I got to live in the heyday of this console and have had the pleasure of opening that new game, whatever that game was, for the first time. And I'll never forget that feeling.

Back on subject, I got my second copy of Dracula X on YA for 7900 yen plus 1600 yen with fees and shipping, I had sold my original (and not so pristine) copy in 2007 and have long since regretted it until I got this last copy. They were obi-less but back then no one gave a crap, or we were all young and dumb. Prolly the latter

[xcrement5x]

All in all it will be worth the 130 you spend on the game because trust me you will always pop that game back into your PC engine many times just to play it through. Also I would make sure that the CD case has not really yellowed because you are throwing down some hard cash.   

It is super easy to get a replacement white CD tray.

I just replaced my yellow-ing cd tray on my Drac X with a much whiter one. Now the value has gone up by at least $20!

Lol, you need to add a wing and a turbo to that bad boy and then you will get like 75 more horsepowa FOR SURE!

[geise]

I won one recently for 140 with spine and registration.  In quite minty shape, depending on the 130 if it is spined I would say that is a good deal.  If not I say nay, then again I don't buy any pc engine CD game without its spine card. This was a copy I got for a buddy of mine.

Well, at least you have your priorities straight.

One time I unknowingly bought a PC Engine CD game that was missing it's spine card.  I ended up having to replace the laser in my Duo.

Spine card collectors are a special class of retard. I honestly do not know if my copy of Drac X has the spine card or not. Maybe I tucked it into the manual, maybe I don't have it in the first place.  Who fucking cares?  It's not like we're talking about the hang tabs on Genesis games, or anything.  What the fuck kind of barbarian rips those off???

LOL!  I had an old co-worker who told me he used a straight razor on all of his genisis cases back in the day.

It's ok tknjin, I don't judge even though that is pretty obsessive compulsive. 

To display all my games I use a couple of these:

[Emerald Rocker]

I use spine cards as bookmarks.  The Sapphire spine card is marking the page in Damiano right now.

[esteban]

I use spine cards as bookmarks.  The Sapphire spine card is marking the page in Damiano right now.

I write my grocery lists on spine cards.

[o.pwuaioc]

Spine cards make excellent kindling.

[geise]

I use spine cards as bookmarks.  The Sapphire spine card is marking the page in Damiano right now.

I write my grocery lists on spine cards.

LOL Fantastic idea!  Saves on real paper.

[Groover]

I picked it up for around $124 on amazon in January.

[Emerald Rocker]

As PCEFX's resident expert in PCE prices, I say the fair market price is $120 without spine, or $140 with spine.

[CGQuarterly]

As PCEFX's resident expert in PCE prices, I say the fair market price is $120 without spine, or $140 with spine.

Serious talk: Does that mean I can sell my spine card for $20?

[CrackTiger]

As PCEFX's resident expert in PCE prices, I say the fair market price is $120 without spine, or $140 with spine.

Serious talk: Does that mean I can sell my spine card for $20?

Seriously, put it on eBay and you can probably milk collectors for much more.

[CGQuarterly]

As PCEFX's resident expert in PCE prices, I say the fair market price is $120 without spine, or $140 with spine.

Serious talk: Does that mean I can sell my spine card for $20?

Seriously, put it on eBay and you can probably milk collectors for much more.

As much as I would love to, I just wouldn't feel right about it.  I don't want to be part of the problem.  I frequently read the retrogaming-related subreddits on Reddit, and the sheer number of people there who want to know how much they can get for whatever game they just found, followed by replies instructing them to start off with overpriced BINs, is astounding.  And these are the people who are trying to build up collections.  It's like they don't understand that they are the reason that they are paying so much money for shit on eBay.

[Emerald Rocker]

You could totally get $20 for the spine card.  You wouldn't be ripping anyone off, either; for someone who actually wants the spine card to "complete" their copy, that would be (by far) the cheapest way they could get one.

[PunkCryborg]

I'm gonna be honest here, I paid someone $20 shipped for a drac X spine card lol
I got my Drac though for $60 on ebay so it's like a got a spiney copy for $80 or that's at least how I justified it

[LostFlunky]

I'm gonna be honest here, I paid someone $20 shipped for a drac X spine card lol
I got my Drac though for $60 on ebay so it's like a got a spiney copy for $80 or that's at least how I justified it

Mine was $81 shipped.  Seller listed as not including spine, but it was behind the tray.   This was in 2012.


I balked at paying $70 ($80.50 total) plus tax from a local store back in 1995 and opted for an HK silver for $5 instead.... I ended up paying roughly the same price in 2012...

[xcrement5x]

As PCEFX's resident expert in PCE prices, I say the fair market price is $120 without spine, or $140 with spine.

Serious talk: Does that mean I can sell my spine card for $20?

Seriously, put it on eBay and you can probably milk collectors for much more.

As much as I would love to, I just wouldn't feel right about it.  I don't want to be part of the problem.  I frequently read the retrogaming-related subreddits on Reddit, and the sheer number of people there who want to know how much they can get for whatever game they just found, followed by replies instructing them to start off with overpriced BINs, is astounding.  And these are the people who are trying to build up collections.  It's like they don't understand that they are the reason that they are paying so much money for shit on eBay.

This is 100% the problem in my opinion too.  Professional resellers are lame, but what has driven the prices up so high are people that buy a bundle of shit at a garage thrift sale, then try and sell it back at the highest price the market will bear so they can recoup cost and/or make cash to dump into buying more collection items. 

News flash dumbasses, if everyone keeps raising the prices to get the "top dollar" amount, prices go up in general and everyone suffers. 

[geise]

I'm gonna be honest here, I paid someone $20 shipped for a drac X spine card lol
I got my Drac though for $60 on ebay so it's like a got a spiney copy for $80 or that's at least how I justified it

Mine was $81 shipped.  Seller listed as not including spine, but it was behind the tray.   This was in 2012.


I balked at paying $70 ($80.50 total) plus tax from a local store back in 1995 and opted for an HK silver for $5 instead.... I ended up paying roughly the same price in 2012...

Hehe.  Oh well.  At least you've been playing the game since 95.  Better than not playing it at all.  I was lucky and got it for xmas in 93.  I'm sure it was $70 as well.  I think my bro had my parents get it from Die Hard Gamers Club.  I believe it was Game Cave by then.

[imparanoic]

How much does Dracula X go for these days? I have the opportunity to buy it for $130 US - is this a good price? Thanks!

seems like you in Hong Kong, US$130 ( HK$1000) is a bit pricey for castlevania, in the shops, I have seen it as low as HK$800 in shop with spine card some time ago, however, most gamers in hong kong use a facebook group to avoid a lot of the expensive stores, I have seen it as low as HK$600 without spine card

if you use the commonly used online auctions in HK, avoid the rip off seller with hundreds of listings and no bids, the gamers avoid this seller like the plague due to stupid prices

[dave_van_damn]

How much does Dracula X go for these days? I have the opportunity to buy it for $130 US - is this a good price? Thanks!

seems like you in Hong Kong, US$130 ( HK$1000) is a bit pricey for castlevania, in the shops, I have seen it as low as HK$800 in shop with spine card some time ago, however, most gamers in hong kong use a facebook group to avoid a lot of the expensive stores, I have seen it as low as HK$600 without spine card

if you use the commonly used online auctions in HK, avoid the rip off seller with hundreds of listings and no bids, the gamers avoid this seller like the plague due to stupid prices

Yep, indeed I'm in HK. $1000 is the cheapest I've been quoted from a store. The guy said he doesn't have any copies of it yet and needs to "order it from Japan" first. My friend in Japan did a price check and the cost was $120 US.

Facebook groups, huh? Any chance of a link?

[imparanoic]

How much does Dracula X go for these days? I have the opportunity to buy it for $130 US - is this a good price? Thanks!

seems like you in Hong Kong, US$130 ( HK$1000) is a bit pricey for castlevania, in the shops, I have seen it as low as HK$800 in shop with spine card some time ago, however, most gamers in hong kong use a facebook group to avoid a lot of the expensive stores, I have seen it as low as HK$600 without spine card

if you use the commonly used online auctions in HK, avoid the rip off seller with hundreds of listings and no bids, the gamers avoid this seller like the plague due to stupid prices

Yep, indeed I'm in HK. $1000 is the cheapest I've been quoted from a store. The guy said he doesn't have any copies of it yet and needs to "order it from Japan" first. My friend in Japan did a price check and the cost was $120 US.

Facebook groups, huh? Any chance of a link?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/276060202547564/

sadly most Chinese, but most do understand basic English (ie, buy/ 要 copy and paste this), first come first serve, you need to join the group, there are a few overseas Chinese ( who can't read chinese ) and odd westerner here

there are a lot of bargains, but some items which are popular by demand by hk locals are not cheap here, but other are much cheaper than US, Japan or Europe

however, pc engine items are not as common here ( but more common than us and europe, not including rip off sellers ), lots of super famicom, ps2, ps1, Saturn, etc

some rare stuff occasionally pops up

note. some bargains are snapped really really quickly , remember copy and paste (要 = means want)  for the items you want to buy on offer.

[imparanoic]

How much does Dracula X go for these days? I have the opportunity to buy it for $130 US - is this a good price? Thanks!

seems like you in Hong Kong, US$130 ( HK$1000) is a bit pricey for castlevania, in the shops, I have seen it as low as HK$800 in shop with spine card some time ago, however, most gamers in hong kong use a facebook group to avoid a lot of the expensive stores, I have seen it as low as HK$600 without spine card

if you use the commonly used online auctions in HK, avoid the rip off seller with hundreds of listings and no bids, the gamers avoid this seller like the plague due to stupid prices

Yep, indeed I'm in HK. $1000 is the cheapest I've been quoted from a store. The guy said he doesn't have any copies of it yet and needs to "order it from Japan" first. My friend in Japan did a price check and the cost was $120 US.

Facebook groups, huh? Any chance of a link?

It's also noted that this ebay based seller in japan ships to HK, reasonable prices and some good rare and really rare stuff ( but the bids can be really high)

[imparanoic]

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/usedvideogameyamatokuclassic/

[cr8zykuban0]

i was able to get mine in great shape for 130 which is far but not an amazing deal but i wanted to get it before it goes any higher in price. was well worth the price

[imparanoic]

this is the largest retro game store in hong Kong, 19﹣21 SHING YIP ST SHING YIP INDUSTRIAL BUILDING，G／F NO.5 7 ROOM尋寶園 - https://www.facebook.com/preciousdepositshk?refid=18&ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_comment_reply&__tn__=%2As&__nodl&_rdr

[esteban]

Precious Deposits

[Otaking]

I noticed PC Engine Dracula X price has never really changed. It costs approximately the same now as what I paid for it on import when it was released. It is one of the greatest games of all time, so I've always expected the price to rocket but it never has. My only conclusion is it's truly not a rare game at all. There's always enough copies about to meet demand, so the price has never increased.

I think a kind of similar thing about Sega Saturn Radiant Silvergun, which over the last 15 years has got to be one of the most hyped import retro games. Yet with all the hype the price seems to remain static to what it cost in 2001. Again there must be enough copies about to meet demand.

Where I have noticed recently a massive increase in price is in Super Famicom games, it's crazy. A large percentage of the library has tripled or even quadrupled in price within the last two years. I'm not talking only eBay here, I mean also the prices in Japan itself. I think one factor is because of the delicate cardboard boxes they came in, finding good condition complete ones has become more and more scarce.

[esadajr]

I thought that was already established, games like Drac X and Radiant are not rare, is just the supply is in the hands of a few (sort of).

[CrackTiger]

Not long ago, Drac X was going for $75 for what seemed like s few years.

Radiant Silvergun is not rare at all and was very cheap during the 90's. Most EBs had several copies and they were sold for very little above the price of domestic games. Just like Sylphia, once the "shump!" sayers were told that these games were actually developed by teams who worked on famous schtroumpfs, they all suffered permanent brain damage and have employed gougers ever since.

Sylphia in particular is a game I talked about a lot and showed what I could of it, but most reactions were simply "meh" and the most it ever sold for was $30 - $40. For it to jump straight to $200 - $300 is as unnatural as it gets and the game is now a monument to collectardation.

[esteban]

Not long ago, Drac X was going for $75 for what seemed like s few years.

Radiant Silvergun is not rare at all and was very cheap during the 90's. Most EBs had several copies and they were sold for very little above the price of domestic games. Just like Sylphia, once the "shump!" sayers were told that these games were actually developed by teams who worked on famous schtroumpfs, they all suffered permanent brain damage and have employed gougers ever since.

Sylphia in particular is a game I talked about a lot and showed what I could of it, but most reactions were simply "meh" and the most it ever sold for was $30 - $40. For it to jump straight to $200 - $300 is as unnatural as it gets and the game is now a monument to collectardation.

I wish I bought Sylphia when I had a chance, back before the insanity.

I used to think $50-60 was way too much.

Ughhhhh.

[NecroPhile]

I wish I bought Sylphia when I had a chance, back before the insanity.

Me too.  It's a fun shewty and I dig how it's not your standard spaceship fare.

[Mercutio]

Not long ago, Drac X was going for $75 for what seemed like s few years.

Radiant Silvergun is not rare at all and was very cheap during the 90's. Most EBs had several copies and they were sold for very little above the price of domestic games. Just like Sylphia, once the "shump!" sayers were told that these games were actually developed by teams who worked on famous schtroumpfs, they all suffered permanent brain damage and have employed gougers ever since.

Sylphia in particular is a game I talked about a lot and showed what I could of it, but most reactions were simply "meh" and the most it ever sold for was $30 - $40. For it to jump straight to $200 - $300 is as unnatural as it gets and the game is now a monument to collectardation.

I wish I bought Sylphia when I had a chance, back before the insanity.

I used to think $50-60 was way too much.

Ughhhhh.

Even the bootleg Sapphire goes for way too much now. Completely insane.

[Cogwheels]

I managed to pick up a copy for £65 last year (mint condition too), and I almost baulked at paying that. 12 months later and it seems to be selling for almost double.

It's a dangerous thing as it kind of supports this thing in my head that if I want it, then I'll just have to buy it. These things don't seem to be getting any cheaper.

So, basically I am part of the problem 

[Otaking]

I managed to pick up a copy for £65 last year (mint condition too), and I almost baulked at paying that. 12 months later and it seems to be selling for almost double.

It's a dangerous thing as it kind of supports this thing in my head that if I want it, then I'll just have to buy it. These things don't seem to be getting any cheaper.

Just checked and PC Engine Dracula X does seem to be selling for a bit more recently.
But I would say though that 98% of the Japanese PC Engine library has not gone up in price in years.
The really common games are definitely cheaper because of all those large 100+ game lots that have been on eBay over the last few years from sellers like hit-japan, it's completely saturated the western market with the cheap common games. Overall all the other games I would say are either the same static price or if anything slightly cheaper than a few years ago. There's a very small handful of games that have increased in price. One of these is Tatsujin which has shot up in price.

[dave_van_damn]

this is the largest retro game store in hong Kong, 19﹣21 SHING YIP ST SHING YIP INDUSTRIAL BUILDING，G／F NO.5 7 ROOM尋寶園 - https://www.facebook.com/preciousdepositshk?refid=18&ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_comment_reply&__tn__=%2As&__nodl&_rdr

Wow, I've never heard of this place before. Thanks for all the links

[DragonmasterDan]

Not long ago, Drac X was going for $75 for what seemed like s few years.

After the PSP version and Wii Virtual Console version came out prices on it tanked. Until looking through this thread I was unaware they had spiked again.

Radiant Silvergun is not rare at all and was very cheap during the 90's. Most EBs had several copies and they were sold for very little above the price of domestic games. Just like Sylphia, once the "shump!" sayers were told that these games were actually developed by teams who worked on famous schtroumpfs, they all suffered permanent brain damage and have employed gougers ever since.

Yep, after the Saturn died in North America a lot of EBs, Babbages and Software ETC started carrying Saturn imports, Action Replays and ST keys. I remember seeing the Saturn version of Symphony of the Night, Radiant Silvergun, the various Capcom fighting games for sale in 1998 or so in regular indoor mall game shops.

[xcrement5x]

Radiant Silvergun is not rare at all and was very cheap during the 90's. Most EBs had several copies and they were sold for very little above the price of domestic games. Just like Sylphia, once the "shump!" sayers were told that these games were actually developed by teams who worked on famous schtroumpfs, they all suffered permanent brain damage and have employed gougers ever since.

You know it's interesting, it seems like shooting type games really do have their own bubble within a bubble going on currently.  It used to be that retro RPGs were the the games that commanded the highest prices by genres, but shooters have been going through the roof. 

I think like 90% of the current Genesis inflation that's going on right now is based purely on the shooters in the system's library.  Also applicable to a lot of PCE stuff as well.

[Gredler]

I do think this is related to the available games to the public on modern consoles. Resogun is the only mainstream shmup that comes to mind (I'm sure there are more, but not on the front page of the PSN store for example) I think a lot of people look to the past for games they haven't played when the new releases don't appease their desires. More modern shmups would probably affect people's inclination to go back to older shmups and play them. With the rise of mobile RPGS, indie JRPG's, and generally a lot of new RPGs out there (Tales series, Ni No Kuni, etc) that there is less of a desire to go dig out old "new to me" games for that genre. Only reason I think this hasn't happened to action platformers is that this style has never dried up - it's a indie darling genre that's constantly flooded with great new titles.

[DragonmasterDan]

You know it's interesting, it seems like shooting type games really do have their own bubble within a bubble going on currently.  It used to be that retro RPGs were the the games that commanded the highest prices by genres, but shooters have been going through the roof. 

I think like 90% of the current Genesis inflation that's going on right now is based purely on the shooters in the system's library.  Also applicable to a lot of PCE stuff as well.

RPGs and Shoot em ups age well.

Other genres of games generally don't age quite as well. RPGs are still being made, but you can get the same fun experience from a 20 year old RPG as a brand new one. That can't generally be said for sports, action games, early FPS's, or fighting games.

[seieienbu]

RPGs and Shoot em ups age well.

Perhaps it's just nostalgia talking here, but I honestly don't feel that technology and time have been very kind to these two particular genres.  I realize that Cave and Touhou games have their audiences, but modern shooters feel like a giant mess to me.  I can't even enjoy looking at the screen as they are generally covered so liberall-y with projectiles that I can't make sense of anything. 

Meanwhile, RPGs are a genre that I just can't play on systems from about PS2 onward.  I still love 8, 16, 32 bit RPGs but most RPGs made in more modern times simply irritate me more and more.  At some point during, say, the 32 bit era it became the vogue thing for the story sequences to become longer, more involved, and (to me) way worse. 

I can boot up old favorites or find new-to-me games from the era in these two genres and have an enjoyable experience.  That being said the more recent Final Fantasy, Tales, Star Ocean, etc I just can't enjoy them the same way.  There are exceptions of course.  Yeah, they're both a bit old by this point but I thought Gradius 5 was fantastic and likewise for Dragonquest 9.  I guess my point is these two genres work just as well on older hardware and for that reason prices have gone up or at least stayed relatively consistently high.  Sometimes there's just no need for an upgrade when what you've got is perfectly serviceable.

[DragonmasterDan]

Perhaps it's just nostalgia talking here, but I honestly don't feel that technology and time have been very kind to these two particular genres.  I realize that Cave and Touhou games have their audiences, but modern shooters feel like a giant mess to me.  I can't even enjoy looking at the screen as they are generally covered so liberall-y with projectiles that I can't make sense of anything. 

Meanwhile, RPGs are a genre that I just can't play on systems from about PS2 onward.  I still love 8, 16, 32 bit RPGs but most RPGs made in more modern times simply irritate me more and more.  At some point during, say, the 32 bit era it became the vogue thing for the story sequences to become longer, more involved, and (to me) way worse. 

I can boot up old favorites or find new-to-me games from the era in these two genres and have an enjoyable experience.  That being said the more recent Final Fantasy, Tales, Star Ocean, etc I just can't enjoy them the same way.  There are exceptions of course.  Yeah, they're both a bit old by this point but I thought Gradius 5 was fantastic and likewise for Dragonquest 9.  I guess my point is these two genres work just as well on older hardware and for that reason prices have gone up or at least stayed relatively consistently high.  Sometimes there's just no need for an upgrade when what you've got is perfectly serviceable.

They're two genre's that don't benefit greatly from improvements in graphics or processing power. So a well designed RPG or Shoot em up from the 16-bit era and a well designed RPG or Shoot em up from today differ almost only in presentation.

[o.pwuaioc]

Perhaps it's just nostalgia talking here, but I honestly don't feel that technology and time have been very kind to these two particular genres.  I realize that Cave and Touhou games have their audiences, but modern shooters feel like a giant mess to me.  I can't even enjoy looking at the screen as they are generally covered so liberall-y with projectiles that I can't make sense of anything. 

Meanwhile, RPGs are a genre that I just can't play on systems from about PS2 onward.  I still love 8, 16, 32 bit RPGs but most RPGs made in more modern times simply irritate me more and more.  At some point during, say, the 32 bit era it became the vogue thing for the story sequences to become longer, more involved, and (to me) way worse. 

I can boot up old favorites or find new-to-me games from the era in these two genres and have an enjoyable experience.  That being said the more recent Final Fantasy, Tales, Star Ocean, etc I just can't enjoy them the same way.  There are exceptions of course.  Yeah, they're both a bit old by this point but I thought Gradius 5 was fantastic and likewise for Dragonquest 9.  I guess my point is these two genres work just as well on older hardware and for that reason prices have gone up or at least stayed relatively consistently high.  Sometimes there's just no need for an upgrade when what you've got is perfectly serviceable.

They're two genre's that don't benefit greatly from improvements in graphics or processing power. So a well designed RPG or Shoot em up from the 16-bit era and a well designed RPG or Shoot em up from today differ almost only in presentation.

Unless the developer feels the need to add unnecessarily. I prefer the 8/16 shooters over modern day ones due to generic shifts. Today's shooters generally prefer the twitchy bullet hell with bright, colorful bullets, while I like my shooters like Striker 1945 or Sonic Wings, fast action, feeling like you're actually navigating a barrage of enemies, not some slow-moving glow sticks.

With RPGs, it seems the worst of the old games (grinding, fetch quests) either got worse or were almost entirely eliminated. Balance is largely lost, and the genre feels like it has descended into stereotypes. Granted, it was never that innovative to begin with.

[Duo_R]

Bumping the old thread. Anyone seen the eBay prices lately on this one? Damn

[Medic_wheat]

Bumping the old thread. Anyone seen the eBay prices lately on this one? Damn

I have been to lazy. Why?  What INSAINE asking prices have they dreamed up now?


Are we talking Little Samson levels of price fuckery?

[SignOfZeta]

It seems like $170-300 depending now fucking stupid the noob in question is at any given time.

Honestly, not really that bad considering there are 1000 new PCE people every year, apparently all pissed off that PCE prices aren't what they were the year before, ignoring the obvious fact they them getting into PCE is the reason the price went up.