Turbo variants

slinkyturd · 01/04/2016, 09:00 AM

I've just found out about Champions Forever Boxing Black and Red label variants (I'm not sure which is rarer or if it matters to anyone). I am curious if any others in the US library have such variants.

CrackTiger · 01/04/2016, 11:55 AM

CFB got a reprint which fixes a bug that nakes it incompatible with the TurboBooster.

There are two main physical versions of Ys I & II. Many games including Ys I & II have different text, print, etc between batches.

Many games have various stickers on theur shrinkwrap, while other copies of the same titles don't. Same with pack-in flyers.

Canadian versions also have differences.

Collectards will view these things as variants, but they're really no big deal.

NecroPhile · 01/04/2016, 12:05 PM

Yarr, there's several games with minor differences between batches, but only a few stand out. Besides the obvious differences in Champions Forever Boxing and between the retail and pack-in versions of Ys, the only one that comes to mind is the reprint of Dungeon Explorer II with the cheap ass black and white xerox manual.

ginoscope · 01/04/2016, 12:16 PM

Quote from: guest on 01/04/2016, 12:05 PMYarr, there's several games with minor differences between batches, but only a few stand out. Besides the obvious differences in Champions Forever Boxing and between the retail and pack-in versions of Ys, the only one that comes to mind is the reprint of Dungeon Explorer II with the cheap ass black and white xerox manual.

Anymore details to the Dungeon Explorer II reprint? I remember reading bits and pieces of this being done but did not know the whole story.

NecroPhile · 01/04/2016, 12:39 PM

There's not much to tell. TZD had more copies made and either weren't given access to original art files or didn't want to pay for professionally printed manuals; I lean towards the latter, as it wouldn't have been difficult (or terribly pricey) to create new art files from an original paper manual.

ginoscope · 01/04/2016, 12:48 PM

Oh ok I was thinking it was someone besides TZD that commissioned the reprint.

CrackTiger · 01/04/2016, 02:56 PM

Quote from: ginoscope on 01/04/2016, 12:48 PMOh ok I was thinking it was someone besides TZD that commissioned the reprint.

It's likely not even a reprint, just an uneven number of discs per packaging. This "variant" is just incomplete OEM copies. The photocopied manual is just the cheapest of repro docs. Unfortunately, just as crooked sellers advertise Ys with a manual as "complete", many like to spin incomplete copies of DEII as "complete" extra rare variants.

SignOfZeta · 01/04/2016, 03:07 PM

Yeah, you generally have to sell out of something before you "reprint" it. Probably best described as defective/surplus stock.

esteban · 01/05/2016, 12:44 AM

An employee, who shall remain unnamed, accidentally knocked over a ZIMA at a TZD Cinco de Mayo party. The spill went unnoticed until May 15th.

An undisclosed number of Bravoman, Drop Off and Dungeon Explorer II manuals were soaked—pages stuck together.

Photocopies of the Dungeon Explorer II manual, created by the unnamed culprit, were substituted in place of the originals.

slinkyturd · 01/05/2016, 04:37 AM

On the Champions Forever Boxing, which was the correction and which has the defect?

grolt · 01/05/2016, 10:30 AM

Quote from: slinkyturd on 01/05/2016, 04:37 AMOn the Champions Forever Boxing, which was the correction and which has the defect?

The red version is fixed, while the black version has an audio glitch only if you go out through the RF output on the TG-16. If you are playing the black Hucard through any composite connection it will still sound just fine.

xcrement5x · 01/06/2016, 10:16 AM

Quote from: esteban on 01/05/2016, 12:44 AMAn employee, who shall remain unnamed, accidentally knocked over a ZIMA at a TZD Cinco de Mayo party. The spill went unnoticed until May 15th.

An undisclosed number of Bravoman, Drop Off and Dungeon Explorer II manuals were soaked—pages stuck together.

Photocopies of the Dungeon Explorer II manual, created by the unnamed culprit, were substituted in place of the originals.

Damnit Carl!

Alt-Nintega · 01/06/2016, 05:07 PM

this is a collectard topic. who cares how many variants are there. only collectards care about variants. Like you said, play the games.

djolof · 01/06/2016, 05:15 PM

Quote from: Psycho Alt-Nintega on 01/06/2016, 05:07 PMthis is a collectard topic. who cares how many variants are there. only collectards care about variants. Like you said, play the games.

Still waiting for your market report, tool. C'mon already!

djolof · 01/06/2016, 05:18 PM

Jack Nicklaus golf is on a turbo-chip and CD. Not that anyone should own two copies of that game.

CrackTiger · 01/06/2016, 05:29 PM

Quote from: Psycho Alt-Nintega on 01/06/2016, 05:07 PMthis is a collectard topic. who cares how many variants are there. only collectards care about variants. Like you said, play the games.

One version of Champions Forever Boxing will not play correctly under certain console setups. That is a game playing issue.

Encouraging people to collect sealed games, grade them, frame them, hang them on their wall to admire and think about the increasing profit margin on your investments while staring at them until you flip them for money (not simply "flipping" them to display the backside of the framed sealed game case)... is engaging in collectard enthusiasm.

jelloslug · 01/07/2016, 09:45 AM

Quote from: djolof on 01/06/2016, 05:18 PMJack Nicklaus golf is on a turbo-chip and CD. Not that anyone should own two copies of that game.

I have two copies of the CD version.

Alt-Nintega · 01/07/2016, 01:08 PM

Quote from: jelloslug on 01/07/2016, 09:45 AM
Quote from: djolof on 01/06/2016, 05:18 PMJack Nicklaus golf is on a turbo-chip and CD. Not that anyone should own two copies of that game.
I have two copies of the CD version.

and that's why you are a collectard.