Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days

[wildfruit]

Doesn't really matter who wins. The underlying status quo perpetuates.

[esteban]

Doesn't really matter who wins. The underlying status quo perpetuates.

Absolutely true.

[jlued686]

You basically described every politician ever.  Lots of talk and platitudes but almost zero substance.  Obama did the same, made all these promises, and got almost none of them accomplished.

Evil, I already posted this in this thread, but the following video is what I'm talking about with Trump:

Like I've also already said: he doesn't know shit about shit. Nothing but hot air.

[BigusSchmuck]

Doesn't really matter who wins. The underlying status quo perpetuates.

Absolutely true.

Still going to have the Federal Reserve and still will continue to accumulate debt that our kids and their kids will have to deal with.

[EvilEvoIX]

What "spending cuts"?  There might be tax breaks for the rich but I honestly doubt there will be spending cuts.  Hilariously, if you look at the last 5 presidents, the two dems cut did way more to lower the deficit than the 3 reps.

I sure do wish the conservative party was more fiscally conservative.  It'd make my choices on who to vote for a hell of a lot easier.

I can't help but notice that the National Debt doubled under the last and sitting Dem.  I littler more than a Trillion a year spent and promised to and by US Tax payers.  We pay the Debt + Interest.  The issue is spending and entitlements of course.

Deficit? What Trump SAYS he will do is flip trade, so we don't lose 500 Billion a year but gain it.  Who knows what he'll do but that's his MO.  I agree otherwise that we don't have enough fiscal conservatives.

You basically described every politician ever.  Lots of talk and platitudes but almost zero substance.  Obama did the same, made all these promises, and got almost none of them accomplished.

Evil, I already posted this in this thread, but the following video is what I'm talking about with Trump:

Like I've also already said: he doesn't know shit about shit. Nothing but hot air.

I've watched the Video, my response is the same.  You are gaining zero ground on a Conservative or Democrat knowing more or less than the average Joe.

Doesn't really matter who wins. The underlying status quo perpetuates.

Absolutely true.

Still going to have the Federal Reserve and still will continue to accumulate debt that our kids and their kids will have to deal with.

This isn't as big of an issue as you think if you take a radical approach.  These an old adage that states.

   "If you owe a bank $19,000, you have a problem....

        If you owe a bank 19 Billion, the bank has a problem


The Federal Reserve, for those that don't know, is about as Federal as Federal Express.  They are a private bank that literally prints money and loans it to us.  Smoke and Mirrors.  Let's say we don't pay it back?  Then what?  Our Dollar collapses, but so does all the debt we owe to China and the like.  They collapse as well because we no longer can afford their rubber dog shit to ship on over.  Everything collapses.  Governments get together and unanimously agree to a "Do-Over", the cycle continues.


It's all smoke and mirrors.

[NecroPhile]

I can't help but notice that the National Debt doubled under the last and sitting Dem.

Reagan nearly tripled it, George HW Bush was half way to double and would've easily hit it if he'd had eight years, and George W Bush doubled it too, but I guess they get a pass because they're not dirty Democrats.

The Federal Reserve, for those that don't know, is about as Federal as Federal Express.

I didn't know Federal Express was created by congress, has its management appointed by the President, and regulates other shipping companies. 

Much like the USPS, it's not funded by congressional budget or directly controlled by anyone but it's still a part of the federal government.

[Sarumaru]

[EvilEvoIX]

I can't help but notice that the National Debt doubled under the last and sitting Dem.

Reagan nearly tripled it, George HW Bush was half way to double and would've easily hit it if he'd had eight years, and George W Bush doubled it too, but I guess they get a pass because they're not dirty Democrats.

The Federal Reserve, for those that don't know, is about as Federal as Federal Express.

I didn't know Federal Express was created by congress, has its management appointed by the President, and regulates other shipping companies. 

Much like the USPS, it's not funded by congressional budget or directly controlled by anyone but it's still a part of the federal government.

Every president since 1776 has increased the Debt to 10 billion.  Obama doubled it in 8 years.  Comment?


Federal reserve?

"The Federal Reserve System considers itself "an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.".


The evidence is out there buddy.  I bet we want the same thing politically.  Fiscal conservatism, a reversal of trade deficits, ending of massive entitlements, and keeping the government out of people's personal business.

[wildfruit]

I can't help but notice that the National Debt doubled under the last and sitting Dem.

The evidence is out there buddy.  I bet we want the same thing politically.  Fiscal conservatism, a reversal of trade deficits, ending of massive entitlements, and keeping the government out of people's personal business.

Fiscal conservatism won't help anything, the money doesn't exist in the first place.
Anyway if a tax is stopped being collected centrally then inevitably it will be collected locally, or the service it provides disappears.
I will give you an example from here: The Lord Chancellor of Parliament decrees that central government will fund councils, police and fire brigade less. So, local council puts up local tax to pay for itself, police and fire brigade.

[NecroPhile]

Every president since 1776 has increased the Debt to 10 billion trillion.  Obama doubled it in 8 years.  Comment?

It sucks.  I've never claimed otherwise, though, so what's your point?

Reagan nearly tripled the debt from $1t to $2.86t and GWB doubled it from $5.8t to $11.6t, so Obama is hardly the worst offender.  Not that two wrongs make a right, of course, but try taking off the blinders some time and stop blaming everything on the Democrats and thinking the Republicans will be our saviors.

Federal reserve?

"The Federal Reserve System considers itself "an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.".

Isn't that what I just said?  Just because it operates somewhat independently doesn't mean it's not a part of the government.

The evidence is out there buddy.

Tinfoil hat time?

[seieienbu]

Every president since 1776 has increased the Debt to 10 billion.  Obama doubled it in 8 years.  Comment?

First off, it's trillions of dollars, not billions.  Second, that statement seems either misinformed or a bit disingenuous to say the least.  For the moment ignoring the fact that Obama didn't double the debt, it doesn't take a linear amount of money to run the country.  Benjamin Franklin once bought 3 muffins for a penny; pennies are such small value today that there are serious talks of getting rid of them as currency altogether.  It seems to me that there's little point in comparing what was spent in the 1700s to what is spent today by specifically Obama.

It's less about the numeric value of money spent as it is about the trend of geometric growth.  Obama took office with a $11T debt.  He now has a $16T debt with 9 months to go so unless he spends $5 trillion this year we're less than half.  W took office with $4.7T to bring it up to $11T.  He more than doubled the national debt.  Clinton took office with $3.3T, adding only a bit over a third over 8 years.  First bush was 54% in one term and Reagen went up by a whopping 186%.

[TheClash603]

The Obama debt growing argument makes little sense, because a substantial contributor to Obama's debt was an inherited shit show in the middle east.

I am not an Obama supporter.  I will never forgive Obama for being too weak to pass a true universal health solution when his party had a majority in both houses, now that is his most embarrassing failure...  not increasing debt.

[TheClash603]

The Obama debt growing argument makes little sense, because a substantial contributor to Obama's debt was an inherited shit show in the middle east.

I am not an Obama supporter.  I will never forgive Obama for being too weak to pass a true universal health solution when his party had a majority in both houses, now that is his most embarrassing failure...  not increasing debt.

I say this all the time. His biggest weakness was compromising too much in the name of bipartisanship... And the most common criticism is that he was too partisan. Shit might be different today if he had gone through his term ready willing and able to use his "fuck you I do what I want".

I always say that if George W Bush was in the same position as Obama and wanted universal health care, we would have it right now.

Although I don't like many of the decisions GW made, I sure do admire his ability to get things done.

[BigusSchmuck]

The Obama debt growing argument makes little sense, because a substantial contributor to Obama's debt was an inherited shit show in the middle east.

I am not an Obama supporter.  I will never forgive Obama for being too weak to pass a true universal health solution when his party had a majority in both houses, now that is his most embarrassing failure...  not increasing debt.

I say this all the time. His biggest weakness was compromising too much in the name of bipartisanship... And the most common criticism is that he was too partisan. Shit might be different today if he had gone through his term ready willing and able to use his "fuck you I do what I want".

I always say that if George W Bush was in the same position as Obama and wanted universal health care, we would have it right now.

Although I don't like many of the decisions GW made, I sure do admire his ability to get things done.

Even if it involved getting us tangled up in a war that we shouldn't have had to begin with. Now we have a whole generation of middle eastern folk hating us even more than if we had left things well alone. Awesome.

Every president since 1776 has increased the Debt to 10 billion.  Obama doubled it in 8 years.  Comment?

First off, it's trillions of dollars, not billions.  Second, that statement seems either misinformed or a bit disingenuous to say the least.  For the moment ignoring the fact that Obama didn't double the debt, it doesn't take a linear amount of money to run the country.  Benjamin Franklin once bought 3 muffins for a penny; pennies are such small value today that there are serious talks of getting rid of them as currency altogether.  It seems to me that there's little point in comparing what was spent in the 1700s to what is spent today by specifically Obama.

It's less about the numeric value of money spent as it is about the trend of geometric growth.  Obama took office with a $11T debt.  He now has a $16T debt with 9 months to go so unless he spends $5 trillion this year we're less than half.  W took office with $4.7T to bring it up to $11T.  He more than doubled the national debt.  Clinton took office with $3.3T, adding only a bit over a third over 8 years.  First bush was 54% in one term and Reagen went up by a whopping 186%.

Last time I checked Bill Clinton created surpluses and everyone was happy. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

[seieienbu]

As I understood it, there was to be a surplus over the coming years but then everything went to hell so the biggest problem of the 2000 election, "How are we going to spend all this damn money!?" went away without warning under Bush Jr.  Clinton wasn't running a surplus for the duration of his presidency so while there was no deficit spending for a year or two there was still an increase in the overall debt up until then.

Your link seems to agree with my recollection of things from highschool but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

[EvilEvoIX]

Every president since 1776 has increased the Debt to 10 billion trillion.  Obama doubled it in 8 years.  Comment?

It sucks.  I've never claimed otherwise, though, so what's your point?

Reagan nearly tripled the debt from $1t to $2.86t and GWB doubled it from $5.8t to $11.6t, so Obama is hardly the worst offender.  Not that two wrongs make a right, of course, but try taking off the blinders some time and stop blaming everything on the Democrats and thinking the Republicans will be our saviors.

Federal reserve?

"The Federal Reserve System considers itself "an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.".

Isn't that what I just said?  Just because it operates somewhat independently doesn't mean it's not a part of the government.

The evidence is out there buddy.

Tinfoil hat time?

Thanks for correcting my Billion/Trillion typo.  Obama is the worst offender as he added 9+ Trillion.  Unless you adjust for inflation I guess.  Reagan spent money on the Military to escalate the cold war until it destroyed the Soviet Union Financially.  Bush as we know spent a ton of Money on a war.  I'm not saying it's right, I am saying it is.  The Republicans are far less worse than Democrats, they do want to cut spending and I think today's far right extremists really want to reduce the roll of the Government.  Hilary Clinton just stated that she would provide Obama Care to Illegal (Undocumented) immigrants.  The other side wants them gone.  Bernie, according to his posted Tax plan, would increase my taxes by TEN FUCKING PERCENT Federally.  What choice do I have?


Federal Reserve controls the borrowing rate of money on it's own, It control's the monetary policy on it's own.  Extremely powerful and basically autonomous.  That was my point.

[EvilEvoIX]

Every president since 1776 has increased the Debt to 10 billion.  Obama doubled it in 8 years.  Comment?

First off, it's trillions of dollars, not billions.  Second, that statement seems either misinformed or a bit disingenuous to say the least.  For the moment ignoring the fact that Obama didn't double the debt, it doesn't take a linear amount of money to run the country.  Benjamin Franklin once bought 3 muffins for a penny; pennies are such small value today that there are serious talks of getting rid of them as currency altogether.  It seems to me that there's little point in comparing what was spent in the 1700s to what is spent today by specifically Obama.

It's less about the numeric value of money spent as it is about the trend of geometric growth.  Obama took office with a $11T debt.  He now has a $16T debt with 9 months to go so unless he spends $5 trillion this year we're less than half.  W took office with $4.7T to bring it up to $11T.  He more than doubled the national debt.  Clinton took office with $3.3T, adding only a bit over a third over 8 years.  First bush was 54% in one term and Reagen went up by a whopping 186%.

Already corrected the Trillion/Billion Debacle.  When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of "sequestration" spending caps enacted in 2011.  He has spent more than every other President combined.  When he leaves office in January 2017, it'll be over 20 TRILLION Dollars.  He is spending money we don't have.  How about we spend the money we take in and not borrow it? 


Oh and by the way it's "Regan"  not "Reagan" 

[EvilEvoIX]

As I understood it, there was to be a surplus over the coming years but then everything went to hell so the biggest problem of the 2000 election, "How are we going to spend all this damn money!?" went away without warning under Bush Jr.  Clinton wasn't running a surplus for the duration of his presidency so while there was no deficit spending for a year or two there was still an increase in the overall debt up until then.

Your link seems to agree with my recollection of things from highschool but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

All Clinton did was raise taxes during our nations greatest period of Economic growth.  This was the advent of home computing and the internet and the .com Boom. 

During the second half of the 1990s, the United States experienced the continu-
ation of one of the longest economic expansio
ns. The distinguishing characteristics
of this period can be summarized as follows.
1. High growth rates of output, employment, investment and wages.
2. High growth rates of labor productivity.
3. A stock market boom.
4. A financing boom for new and expanding firms.
5. A sense of moving towards a "New Economy"


This of course was the free market creating a new economy and then the Government reigning in the profits.

These were the returns of the Stock Market during the 90's.  A lot of this was also the Housing Boom as well which ultimately turned out to be a bubble.

1990   -3.2%
1991   30.5%
1992   7.7%
1993   10.0%
1994   1.3%
1995   37.4%
1996   23.1%
1997   33.4%
1998   28.6%
1999   21.0%

[TheClash603]

First a post that the current president is spending too much, without taking into context what he inherited.  Next a post about how a former democratic president inherited a good situation and that's why he was more fiscally responsible.  You should've at least tried to space them out to avoid the irony and making your bias so obvious...

[EvilEvoIX]

Explain how he inherited a situation where he must double the national debt?  Did you not understand that both sides are terrible and we are left with two extreme polar opposites?  Government is the issue, the past president spent more money than all other presidents combined.  Spending money we don't have is the issue. That's all I'm saying.

[o.pwuaioc]

Isn't triple posting a banworthy offense?

[OldRover]

What I find amusing is how people will complain about spending... but have no idea what it actually involves or how it does or does not impact their own lives. The "spending" whine is a manipulation tactic used by one side or the other to keep your party loyalty strong. By painting the "other guy" as the enemy, they keep you in line like the good little sheep you are.

[BigusSchmuck]

http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz
One of the most comprehensive non partisan quizzes I have ever took. It said I sided with Gary Johnson and number 2 is Sanders. Hmmm...

[wildfruit]

http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz
One of the most comprehensive non partisan quizzes I have ever took. It said I sided with Gary Johnson and number 2 is Sanders. Hmmm...

I have no idea who these people are or what this I about but apparently I am Bernie sanders

[Otaking]

http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz
One of the most comprehensive non partisan quizzes I have ever took. It said I sided with Gary Johnson and number 2 is Sanders. Hmmm...

I have no idea who these people are or what this I about but apparently I am Bernie sanders

Yeah the results matched me to Bernie Sanders too.

[OldRover]

Unsurprisingly, it matched me to Sanders (91%), with Stein as a secondary (90%).

[jlued686]

What I find amusing is how people will complain about spending... but have no idea what it actually involves or how it does or does not impact their own lives. The "spending" whine is a manipulation tactic used by one side or the other to keep your party loyalty strong. By painting the "other guy" as the enemy, they keep you in line like the good little sheep you are.

BOOM. Exactly what I was thinking.

"But think about the children!!!"

[NecroPhile]

The Republicans are far less worse than Democrats, they do want to cut spending...

Over the last five presidents, that's been patently false.  Are you confusing deficit for spending?  Obama increased the deficit, sure, but his annual spending has been relatively stable at $3t per year after a first year jump of 17%; conversely, Reagan increased annual spending by 80% over his eight years, George HW Bush increased it by 31% over his four years, Clinton increased it by 29% over his eight years, and George W Bush increased it by 72% over his eight years.  Obviously none of them decreased spending overall, but Obama has actually been the most responsible in terms of slowing the annual increases.

He has spent more than every other President combined.  When he leaves office in January 2017, it'll be over 20 TRILLION Dollars. 

Again, deficit is not the same thing as spending.  Including 2016's expenditures, he'll have spent just under half of all past budgets combined, which is still a scary statistic; it's not a very useful statistic, though, not without adjusting for inflation.  Even so, George W Bush was far worse at 61%.

Isn't triple posting a banworthy offense?

Yep.  Consider this your final warning, evo.  Learn to use the enter key or enjoy a vacation.

[jlued686]

I love facts.

EDIT: Speaking of facts, here's a bit about that wall he's gonna build.

Oh, in before "Partisan leftist hack". Ignore the satire/sarcasm, I guess, and listen to the message.

[EvilEvoIX]

The Republicans are far less worse than Democrats, they do want to cut spending...

Over the last five presidents, that's been patently false.  Are you confusing deficit for spending?  Obama increased the deficit, sure, but his annual spending has been relatively stable at $3t per year after a first year jump of 17%; conversely, Reagan increased annual spending by 80% over his eight years, George HW Bush increased it by 31% over his four years, Clinton increased it by 29% over his eight years, and George W Bush increased it by 72% over his eight years.  Obviously none of them decreased spending overall, but Obama has actually been the most responsible in terms of slowing the annual increases.

He has spent more than every other President combined.  When he leaves office in January 2017, it'll be over 20 TRILLION Dollars. 

Again, deficit is not the same thing as spending.  Including 2016's expenditures, he'll have spent just under half of all past budgets combined, which is still a scary statistic; it's not a very useful statistic, though, not without adjusting for inflation.  Even so, George W Bush was far worse at 61%.

Isn't triple posting a banworthy offense?

Yep.  Consider this your final warning, evo.  Learn to use the enter key or enjoy a vacation.

What was the Debt when Obama took office in January 09?  What will it be when he leaves office January 2017?  Trouble with numbers is they kinda count stuff,  and when they double well, that's also easy to count out.  How much of Obama's spending is deficit spending or unfunded?  Have you even looked at the massive increase of entitlements at the expense of the middle class?

You keep saying that going from a national debt of 10 trillion to 20 trillion in 8 years is a useless stat.  To that I'd say the thing between your ears is useless if you believe that.


The state of Washington today and what it has to offer is the reason why Trump is so popular.  It's no mystery people are sick of the shit.

[OldRover]

...and... the poster directly above me is a prime example of what I said earlier about sheep towing the party line.

[o.pwuaioc]

...and... the poster directly above me is a prime example of what I said earlier about sheep towing the party line.

When fiscally conservative posters can't get through to this numbnut, you know there's a major malfunction.

[EvilEvoIX]

Just keep ignoring the massive spending problem and growing debt I guess.  Fwiw trump is hardly a Republican, he's a populist and in some ways an ultra nationalist.  He's simply hijacked the GOP as third party candidates have zero chance in our system.  So your choice is s hell bent ego maniac who undresses politicians one by one (as they are deserved) a person who wishes to increase my taxes 10% annually, or a lying, flip flopping politician who will say anything to get elected, even offering benefits to illegal aliens.

None of you gave a better idea, this is the best we can do.

What do you choose?

[BigusSchmuck]

Just keep ignoring the massive spending problem and growing debt I guess.  Fwiw trump is hardly a Republican, he's a populist and in some ways an ultra nationalist.  He's simply hijacked the GOP as third party candidates have zero chance in our system.  So your choice is s hell bent ego maniac who undresses politicians one by one (as they are deserved) a person who wishes to increase my taxes 10% annually, or a lying, flip flopping politician who will say anything to get elected, even offering benefits to illegal aliens.

None of you gave a better idea, this is the best we can do.

What do you choose?

I choose to vote with my conscience and not the status quo... Trouble is I'm having a tough time choosing a option. Gary Johnson sounds alright, but my problem lies in with what he will do with all those government jobs he wants to lay off. Not only that, any third party option has a uphill battle getting into the debates, let alone all 50 ballots. I'm going to wait and see what happens. One thing is for certain, Drumpf and Sanders do not have my vote let alone Billary.

[NecroPhile]

...and... the poster directly above me is a prime example of what I said earlier about sheep towing the party line.

Yep.  He's fixated on one single statistic as 'proof' that Obama sucks, yet totally blind to the exact same type of shit being pulled by his own party.

[EvilEvoIX]

...and... the poster directly above me is a prime example of what I said earlier about sheep towing the party line.

Yep.  He's fixated on one single statistic as 'proof' that Obama sucks, yet totally blind to the exact same type of shit being pulled by his own party.

And you are blind to the fact that I've said that the Republicans are less worse than the democrats but certainly not the end all be all.  I've also pointed out that the rise of Trump and Sanders, two opposite extremes, are a direct response to what the system keeps shoving down the countries throat.  Who do you vote for?  More of the same or an extremist?  Can you pull the lever for Hilary?

Keep ignoring that 10 Trillion dollar debt expansion in 8-years, everyone else does.

[NecroPhile]

And you are blind to the fact that I've said that the Republicans are less worse than the democrats but certainly not the end all be all.

Perhaps, but you've also said that Republicans want smaller government, less spending, less deficit, etc.  Maybe it's what Trump wants (it's hard telling what that blowhard flip-flopper really wants), but it certainly isn't what the established Republican party has worked for or the outcome of the last three Republican presidencies.

I've also pointed out that the rise of Trump and Sanders, two opposite extremes, are a direct response to what the system keeps shoving down the countries throat.  Who do you vote for?  More of the same or an extremist?  Can you pull the lever for Hilary?

I don't care who you vote for, just do it for the right reasons and not some made up bull that you don't even comprehend.

Keep ignoring that 10 Trillion dollar debt expansion in 8-years, everyone else does.

I've said repeatedly that the debt he added sucks.  Why can't you get that through your thick skull?

[OldRover]

If I pulled the lever for Hillary, it'd be the lever of a crane about to drop a large bag of blood on her head... the blood of all the innocents who have died because of her BS. She's a Republican in a Democrat's clothes. If our choices are Clinton or Trump, I'd rather not vote at all.

[NecroPhile]

If our choices are Clinton or Trump, I'd rather not vote at all.

Do a write in vote!



(thanks este!)

[o.pwuaioc]

If I pulled the lever for Hillary, it'd be the lever of a crane about to drop a large bag of blood on her head... the blood of all the innocents who have died because of her BS. She's a Republican in a Democrat's clothes. If our choices are Clinton or Trump, I'd rather not vote at all.

Third party! They don't have to have a chance at actually winning to make a difference.

[esteban]

Ditto: Bonk for President!

[OldRover]

esteban for president.

[o.pwuaioc]

esteban for president.

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[esteban]

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[BigusSchmuck]

This is one hell of an article entitled Why Trump?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-donald-trump/
Good read regardless where you stand.

[jlued686]

That's a great article. My favorite part:

A 2000 study by political scientists found that Americans who have incorrect information about public discourse can be divided into two different groups — the misinformed and the uninformed. The uninformed simply don't know about a given topic; the misinformed are interested in what's going on, but their sources of information are flawed. Another study, in 2010, found that when the misinformed were told about their inaccuracies, they held onto their beliefs with all the more conviction.

[BigusSchmuck]

That's a great article. My favorite part:

A 2000 study by political scientists found that Americans who have incorrect information about public discourse can be divided into two different groups — the misinformed and the uninformed. The uninformed simply don't know about a given topic; the misinformed are interested in what's going on, but their sources of information are flawed. Another study, in 2010, found that when the misinformed were told about their inaccuracies, they held onto their beliefs with all the more conviction.

You beat me to it.

[OldRover]

This is the exact same reason why people cling to religion so tightly. Religion and politics are two sides of the same coin.

[Otaking]

ISIS uses Trump in propaganda video and also a bit about Brits opinion on Trump.

[BigusSchmuck]

Wow, Trump's campaign manager grabbed a reporter.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/29/trump-campaign-manager-corey-lewandowski-charged-with-battery-for-grabbing-reporter-in-florida.html