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Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

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escarioth

#6850
Good luck Necromancer with your offers   :D
well there's this ghost manor ive seen a while ago,
probably a matter of time before the owner notice that price on ebay and triples it  :roll:

http://www.laplanquejeuxvideo.net/jeux-video/turbografx16/1013818-ghostmanorturbografx16

since its canadian curency...it may be less to pay, i still think its way too high for my taste.
US Hucards     :  86/94 (1 repro)
US CD-games  : 40/44 (3 repros)
total complete with boxes 54/111

NecroPhile

Shoot, I crapped out and ebay won't let you make more than three offers.

I guess I'll have to keep looking for ze Manor von Ghosts.
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neopolss

I just dont know what to say about these anymore.  I mean, most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best.  Im not trying to insult, but if it were on any other console, they would be 5-10$ all day long.

crazydean

#6854
Quote from: neopolss on 08/28/2016, 11:59 PMI just dont know what to say about these anymore.  I mean, most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best.  Im not trying to insult, but if it were on any other console, they would be 5-10$ all day long.
Lol.

Gypsy

Quote from: neopolss on 08/28/2016, 11:59 PMI just dont know what to say about these anymore.  I mean, most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best.  Im not trying to insult, but if it were on any other console, they would be 5-10$ all day long.
I think you joined the wrong forum.

Gredler


esteban

Quote from: Gypsy on 08/29/2016, 05:39 PM
Quote from: neopolss on 08/28/2016, 11:59 PMI just dont know what to say about these anymore.  I mean, most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best.  Im not trying to insult, but if it were on any other console, they would be 5-10$ all day long.
I think you joined the wrong forum.
Quote from: Gredler on 08/29/2016, 05:46 PM
Quote from: neopolss on 08/28/2016, 11:59 PM
most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best
Hahahhahahajja.

Gotta love this guy.

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CrackTiger

Quote from: neopolss on 08/28/2016, 11:59 PMI just dont know what to say about these anymore.  I mean, most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best.  Im not trying to insult, but if it were on any other console, they would be 5-10$ all day long.
That's much more true for popular and commercially successful consoles, like Genesis, SNES, Playstations, Wii, etc.

Which is why retro bargain bins are full of unsold games priced at $1.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

wiseau

Quote from: Gypsy on 08/29/2016, 05:39 PM
Quote from: neopolss on 08/28/2016, 11:59 PMI just dont know what to say about these anymore.  I mean, most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best.  Im not trying to insult, but if it were on any other console, they would be 5-10$ all day long.
I think you joined the wrong forum.
Somebody probably sold him an Atari Jaguar with TURBO GRAPHICS tapped over the logo.

jonebone

I had a bid on that Impossamole, anyone here have a similar one in nice shape for sale?  I'll pay $100 shipped if it is CIB, nice condition with sticker sheet.

CrackTiger

Quote from: jonebone on 08/30/2016, 02:54 PMI had a bid on that Impossamole, anyone here have a similar one in nice shape for sale?  I'll pay $100 shipped if it is CIB, nice condition with sticker sheet.
This is the worst thread for WTB posts. Just start a thread in the Turbo Sales section with all of your wants and everyone with anything you need will find it.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

esadajr

Quote from: geise on 08/24/2016, 09:52 PM
Quote from: guest on 08/23/2016, 03:14 PM$54.44 for 25 foam blocks from original TG-16 boxes, and there's more than 10 available.  :lol:
LOL!  1 watching.  That you necro?
This is insane! Now two are watching! Better hurry!
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BigusSchmuck

Quote from: esadajr on 08/30/2016, 04:38 PM
Quote from: geise on 08/24/2016, 09:52 PM
Quote from: guest on 08/23/2016, 03:14 PM$54.44 for 25 foam blocks from original TG-16 boxes, and there's more than 10 available.  :lol:
LOL!  1 watching.  That you necro?
This is insane! Now two are watching! Better hurry!
Now's there three! Gary Johnson must be watching...

jonebone

Quote from: guest on 08/30/2016, 04:04 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 08/30/2016, 02:54 PMI had a bid on that Impossamole, anyone here have a similar one in nice shape for sale?  I'll pay $100 shipped if it is CIB, nice condition with sticker sheet.
This is the worst thread for WTB posts. Just start a thread in the Turbo Sales section with all of your wants and everyone with anything you need will find it.
Yeah not that high of a priority for me, just thought I'd mention it here because it came up in discussion.

I don't know why it is a shocker that a console exclusive game that is moderately hard to find with box commands $125 on the current market.  That's not even expensive?  If someone wants to complain about a price, they should be discussing Jackie Chan and Darkwing Duck which are pulling around $400 complete in box now.  When both of those aren't even exclusives and the NES versions are much cheaper.  Haven't played them but I heard DD was much better on NES too.

My point is that if Impossamole was such a rip off at $125 then someone please sell me one and take my money.  So far, no takers.

crazydean

Quote from: jonebone on 08/31/2016, 06:51 AMI don't know why it is a shocker that a console exclusive game that is moderately hard to find with box commands $125 on the current market.  That's not even expensive?  If someone wants to complain about a price, they should be discussing Jackie Chan and Darkwing Duck which are pulling around $400 complete in box now. 
It's a shocker because the game isn't very good. You're just buying a game to own it, satisfying some unholy desire to catch 'em all. It seems like there are better things that could be done with your money.

NecroPhile

Quote from: jonebone on 08/31/2016, 06:51 AMIf someone wants to complain about a price, they should be discussing Jackie Chan and Darkwing Duck which are pulling around $400 complete in box now.  When both of those aren't even exclusives and the NES versions are much cheaper.  Haven't played them but I heard DD was much better on NES too.
Other than sharing the Darkwing Duck franchise, the TG-16 and NES games are nothing alike.
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jonebone

Quote from: crazydean on 08/31/2016, 09:25 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 08/31/2016, 06:51 AMI don't know why it is a shocker that a console exclusive game that is moderately hard to find with box commands $125 on the current market.  That's not even expensive?  If someone wants to complain about a price, they should be discussing Jackie Chan and Darkwing Duck which are pulling around $400 complete in box now. 
It's a shocker because the game isn't very good. You're just buying a game to own it, satisfying some unholy desire to catch 'em all. It seems like there are better things that could be done with your money.
It was a CIB game, you can't play a box.  The "Game isn't good" argument only applies to Hu-Card only pricing.  When you start talking CIB or Sealed it is obviously being bought by a collector and gameplay is a distant afterthought.

NecroPhile

$125 seems to be a crazy price because a few months ago similarly complete copies sold for half that.  If your idea of worth begins and ends with current ebay auctions, this thread probably isn't for you.
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jonebone

Quote from: guest on 08/31/2016, 09:46 AM$125 seems to be a crazy price because a few months ago similarly complete copies sold for half that.  If your idea of worth begins and ends with current ebay auctions, this thread probably isn't for you.
Actually, "a few months ago", the last public sale of a CIB was 5/28/16 was for $169 CAD (roughly $130 USD).  The recent sale is only crazy if you've lost concept of time or haven't been watching prices closely. Your "half that" price is probably longer ago than you think, maybe last year.

bob

Quote from: jonebone on 08/31/2016, 09:36 AM... bought by a collector and gameplay is a distant afterthought.
and therein lies the problem.

NecroPhile

I know for a fact that there's been sales this year for $50 or less, but no matter.  If you want to believe it's well worth $125, good for you; we don't have to agree.
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Medic_wheat

I just find it funny people thrown down money for a game that isn't fun to play.


Personally if a game isn't worth my time to enjoy then why is it worth my money?  Rarity, completion, or collection are not factors for me to buy a game. If I simply won't enjoy the experience of playing it, then I have no need for it.

My only wiggle room for completion of a game are CD/DVD based games. I prefer them to have their cases due to the fragil nature of a disc game. And don't want to wade through DBS binders like I use to when I was always traveling in the Army.

As it is my "need" of a game is even less of a factor as I could be perfectly content with the systems and everdrives for the systems which have it.

CrackTiger

Quote from: jonebone on 08/31/2016, 10:27 AM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 08/31/2016, 09:46 AM$125 seems to be a crazy price because a few months ago similarly complete copies sold for half that.  If your idea of worth begins and ends with current ebay auctions, this thread probably isn't for you.
Actually, "a few months ago", the last public sale of a CIB was 5/28/16 was for $169 CAD (roughly $130 USD).  The recent sale is only crazy if you've lost concept of time or haven't been watching prices closely. Your "half that" price is probably longer ago than you think, maybe last year.
One of the biggest problems that feeds the out of control market is that most "collectors" don't understand how eBay or the/a market works. Worse still, they'll rely on inaccurate resources like pricecharting. Worse still, they go around saying things like the last copy sold for $130 and hype the phantom sales history to increase impulse buys, even when all it takes is a few clicks (if you understand how to operate eBay) to find that the last CIB copy sold recently for $45.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Impossamole-TurboGrafx-16-1991-COMPLETE-HTF-/262527041705?hash=item3d1fd4c0a9%3Ag%3AfLgAAOSwRgJXiVHU&nma=true&si=ZYSfOTKQ9rhjr4meghbmmajLuhc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

NecroPhile

But that didn't have the (complete) sticker sheet, which everyone knows is worth twice as much as everything else combined!
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CrackTiger

Quote from: NecroPhile on 08/31/2016, 02:42 PMBut that didn't have the (complete) sticker sheet, which everyone knows is worth twice as much as everything else combined!
If any one person desires extra items that sometimes get packed in with a game, that's cool. But it's still not completely complete without the entire shrinkwrap and the sticker on it that says "free stickers inside!".
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

LETMEINPLEASE

#6876
Quote from: guest on 08/31/2016, 10:57 AMI know for a fact that there's been sales this year for $50 or less, but no matter.  If you want to believe it's well worth $125, good for you; we don't have to agree.
Yep, there just was... like weeks ago, I picked one up in box for like $44 + Ship, but it is missing one sticker off the sheet...oh noes! lol no I could care less really. I think like 6 months before that there was some sealed ones selling at like 50-60 IIRC and other boxed ones 40 ish range. Problem is Ebay only shows 3 months of sold listings so Game values are so jacked up because enough people cant remember to 6 months ago or cared a year ago or more.

Want to vomit a little, check worthpoint for TG16 games. Bonk 3 (hucard version) CIB in 2010 was avg. a $100-125 (complete with outer box). Which makes this friggen insane : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-TurboDuo-card-cartridge-not-CD-/291861302337?hash=item43f44a0c41:g:K9sAAOSwvzRXxxAj
That just sold, start bid was 800 and BIN was $1125.

I'll admit, Im a bit late to the TG16 party. I got my TG16 with some games like 8 yrs ago at a garage sale and never really played it up until 2 years ago. And then I slowly started buying other games. My regret, I didnt start earlier or just bought more of what I actually wanted to play back then. The price increases are nuts here, Ive never seen increases this drastic or fast, ever. I need bonk 3 but I sure as shit am not going to spend $1100 on it. Not when I bought the pce version for $40. Problem is that TG16 is the next new thing to collect so there is a mass of new collectors and apparently they are willing to spend pretty much ANYTHING to get what they believe is "uber rare" Complete in box turbografx games and these are the results. There just isnt enough supply to meet the new rush of demand. It doesn't mean these games are rare like the ark of the covenant (though that thought is part of what is feeding this trend). Theres just too many impatient, new buyers and not enough people that want to sell there copy. Which sucks for the common gamer or casual collector like me, but at least its a little entertaining to watch. But you'd think at these prices it may drive new sellers to part ways with their games and then all you need is a copy of 2 of any game to sit on ebay stagnant for a while and then prices will hopefully go back to reality and not the hyped up over inflated plateau they are at now.

Mathius

Someone must've said something pretty idiotic to drag me back into this discussion (I can't afford to replace anymore popped veins in my forehead). Saying someone who buys a Turbo game CIB is not purchasing it to play the actual game is foolhardy. I just bought Jackie Chan CIB for way under ebay prices and you can damn sure bet that it's gonna get played. If you're allowing yourself to collect games as shelf trophies and nothing else in the end you're the one being played.

crazydean

Quote from: Mathius on 08/31/2016, 08:07 PMIf you're allowing yourself to collect games as shelf trophies and nothing else in the end you're the one being played.
OOH! Sick Burn!

bob

Quote from: crazydean on 08/31/2016, 11:00 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/31/2016, 08:07 PMIf you're allowing yourself to collect games as shelf trophies and nothing else in the end you're the one being played.
OOH! Sick Burn!
yes!  sig worthy.

KingofGames

Quote from: Mathius on 08/31/2016, 08:07 PMSomeone must've said something pretty idiotic to drag me back into this discussion (I can't afford to replace anymore popped veins in my forehead). Saying someone who buys a Turbo game CIB is not purchasing it to play the actual game is foolhardy. I just bought Jackie Chan CIB for way under ebay prices and you can damn sure bet that it's gonna get played. If you're allowing yourself to collect games as shelf trophies and nothing else in the end you're the one being played.
You don't need a CIB copy to play and enjoy the game. Heck, you don't need the actual game to play and enjoy it. What point are you attempting to make? A CIB IS a shelf trophy, whether you wanna believe it or not.

jonebone

Quote from: guest on 08/31/2016, 02:05 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 08/31/2016, 10:27 AM
Quote from: guest on 08/31/2016, 09:46 AM$125 seems to be a crazy price because a few months ago similarly complete copies sold for half that.  If your idea of worth begins and ends with current ebay auctions, this thread probably isn't for you.
Actually, "a few months ago", the last public sale of a CIB was 5/28/16 was for $169 CAD (roughly $130 USD).  The recent sale is only crazy if you've lost concept of time or haven't been watching prices closely. Your "half that" price is probably longer ago than you think, maybe last year.
One of the biggest problems that feeds the out of control market is that most "collectors" don't understand how eBay or the/a market works. Worse still, they'll rely on inaccurate resources like pricecharting. Worse still, they go around saying things like the last copy sold for $130 and hype the phantom sales history to increase impulse buys, even when all it takes is a few clicks (if you understand how to operate eBay) to find that the last CIB copy sold recently for $45.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Impossamole-TurboGrafx-16-1991-COMPLETE-HTF-/262527041705?hash=item3d1fd4c0a9%3Ag%3AfLgAAOSwRgJXiVHU&nma=true&si=ZYSfOTKQ9rhjr4meghbmmajLuhc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
And there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell.

Gentlegamer

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMOnce again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 
You keep forgetting you're not on NA.

We don't sell to everyone, regardless of price.
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deubeul

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMThe last two auctions have broke $120. 
Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?

jonebone

Quote from: deubeul on 09/01/2016, 08:07 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMThe last two auctions have broke $120. 
Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?
Do you know what shill bidding means or how to detect it?  There was zero reason to suspect any shill bidding on the most recent auction.  That seems to be the generic go-to disclaimer for all of the sideline folk who complain about prices though. 

Hint, you look at bid history, then look for low feedback / new users who bid many times on the auction in small increments.  If you see that then yes, shill bidding may have skewed the data.  If you don't see that then no, you're talking out your ass.

Johnpv

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AM
Quote from: guest on 08/31/2016, 02:05 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 08/31/2016, 10:27 AM
Quote from: guest on 08/31/2016, 09:46 AM$125 seems to be a crazy price because a few months ago similarly complete copies sold for half that.  If your idea of worth begins and ends with current ebay auctions, this thread probably isn't for you.
Actually, "a few months ago", the last public sale of a CIB was 5/28/16 was for $169 CAD (roughly $130 USD).  The recent sale is only crazy if you've lost concept of time or haven't been watching prices closely. Your "half that" price is probably longer ago than you think, maybe last year.
One of the biggest problems that feeds the out of control market is that most "collectors" don't understand how eBay or the/a market works. Worse still, they'll rely on inaccurate resources like pricecharting. Worse still, they go around saying things like the last copy sold for $130 and hype the phantom sales history to increase impulse buys, even when all it takes is a few clicks (if you understand how to operate eBay) to find that the last CIB copy sold recently for $45.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Impossamole-TurboGrafx-16-1991-COMPLETE-HTF-/262527041705?hash=item3d1fd4c0a9%3Ag%3AfLgAAOSwRgJXiVHU&nma=true&si=ZYSfOTKQ9rhjr4meghbmmajLuhc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
And there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell.
Here's one with a buy it now of under 50 bucks and its just sitting there not being bought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Impossamole-TurboGrafx-16-1991/272168561705?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38702%26meid%3D48e19a5a86fb4052b522336295a84dee%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D18%26sd%3D262527041705


*EDIT*

My mistake it doesn't have the cardboard box.

jonebone

Quote from: Gentlegamer on 09/01/2016, 08:02 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMOnce again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 
You keep forgetting you're not on NA.

We don't sell to everyone, regardless of price.
While it is flattering that you are obsessed with me and always adding your .02, it is starting to get creepy.

I'm not even that concerned with owning the game, nor do I care who sells what to who.  It came up in the thread, and as someone who is actively collecting Turbo CIBs, I thought I'd mention that price isn't really that bad.

Once again, complain about the Jackie Chan / Darkwing Duck values, or the Bonk 3 that just sold at $1100.  Those are good to complain about, Impossamole at $125 is hardly news.

deubeul

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 08:19 AM
Quote from: deubeul on 09/01/2016, 08:07 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMThe last two auctions have broke $120. 
Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?
Do you know what shill bidding means or how to detect it?  There was zero reason to suspect any shill bidding on the most recent auction.  That seems to be the generic go-to disclaimer for all of the sideline folk who complain about prices though. 

Hint, you look at bid history, then look for low feedback / new users who bid many times on the auction in small increments.  If you see that then yes, shill bidding may have skewed the data.  If you don't see that then no, you're talking out your ass.
You're right, maybe it's not shill biddings. So that lets only one other possible reason that that shitty common game goes for so high prices in auctions:  Dumb buyers

I let you situate yourself.

NecroPhile

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMAnd there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.
Typical reseller reasoning: anything low is just a fluke but equally infrequent highs are gospel truth.  :lol:

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMOnce again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 
You could offer $1000, which I'm sure you'd agree is way more than it's worth, and I still wouldn't sell mine.  Not everybody is like you and trying to make a quick buck off fellow gamers.
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BigusSchmuck

Quote from: deubeul on 09/01/2016, 09:17 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 08:19 AM
Quote from: deubeul on 09/01/2016, 08:07 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMThe last two auctions have broke $120. 
Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?
Do you know what shill bidding means or how to detect it?  There was zero reason to suspect any shill bidding on the most recent auction.  That seems to be the generic go-to disclaimer for all of the sideline folk who complain about prices though. 

Hint, you look at bid history, then look for low feedback / new users who bid many times on the auction in small increments.  If you see that then yes, shill bidding may have skewed the data.  If you don't see that then no, you're talking out your ass.
You're right, maybe it's not shill biddings. So that lets only one other possible reason that that shitty common game goes for so high prices in auctions:  Dumb buyers

I let you situate yourself.
Regardless, paying $100+ for garbage games is like buying crappy Jaguar games just to look at them. Hmm

jonebone

Quote from: guest on 09/01/2016, 09:42 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMAnd there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.
Typical reseller reasoning: anything low is just a fluke but equally infrequent highs are gospel truth.  :lol:

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMOnce again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 
You could offer $1000, which I'm sure you'd agree is way more than it's worth, and I still wouldn't sell mine.  Not everybody is like you and trying to make a quick buck off fellow gamers.
Do you not understand the difference between auction and buy it now?  At auction, 2 bidders determine the value and it is "fair game" for bidding.  At an underpriced buy it now, it is literally the first person to buy it.  You either glosssed over the point, or you don't understand how eBay works.  If someone lists a Stadium Events for $100 and it sells in 3 seconds, is that the new going rate?  Come on now.

As for point 2, who said anything about reselling?  I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.

bob

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 09:56 AM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2016, 09:42 AM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMAnd there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.
Typical reseller reasoning: anything low is just a fluke but equally infrequent highs are gospel truth.  :lol:

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 06:45 AMOnce again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 
You could offer $1000, which I'm sure you'd agree is way more than it's worth, and I still wouldn't sell mine.  Not everybody is like you and trying to make a quick buck off fellow gamers.
Do you not understand the difference between auction and buy it now?  At auction, 2 bidders determine the value and it is "fair game" for bidding.  At an underpriced buy it now, it is literally the first person to buy it.  You either glosssed over the point, or you don't understand how eBay works.  If someone lists a Stadium Events for $100 and it sells in 3 seconds, is that the new going rate?  Come on now.

As for point 2, who said anything about reselling?  I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.
If you pay $100, how much will it cost you to VGA Brick it?

NecroPhile

This guy really knows how to build a straw man.  :lol:

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 09:56 AMDo you not understand the difference between auction and buy it now?  At auction, 2 bidders determine the value and it is "fair game" for bidding.  At an underpriced buy it now, it is literally the first person to buy it.  You either glosssed over the point, or you don't understand how eBay works.
Obviously I understand how ebay works, but I'm not willing to dismiss all BINs as irrelevant.  Is that really so hard for you to understand?

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 09:56 AMIf someone lists a Stadium Events for $100 and it sells in 3 seconds, is that the new going rate?  Come on now.
Nope.  Similarly, I'm not saying that a complete Impossamole is worth exactly $45 and anyone that pays a dime more is getting screwed.

Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 09:56 AMAs for point 2, who said anything about reselling?  I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.
You are a reseller (or so 'hundreds of annual sales' would lead me to believe), but that's not the point of the second half of my previous post.  I don't think you're looking to flip Impossamole, but neither am I looking to flip any of the games I own regardless of potential for profit.

You're trying to use your lack offers as proof of Impossamole's value, but that's nonsense.  There's plenty of other factors in play: the odds of many resellers seeing your request in this particular thread are slim to none (especially over such a short period of time), we're not sitting on piles of duplicates just waiting to be sold, few are willing to sell anything and everything out of their personal collections if someone would only offer the right price, and some people wouldn't sell to you no matter what.
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Quote from: jonebone on 09/01/2016, 09:56 AMI'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.
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KingofGames

Such a shame that the game is sealed. It should be played and enjoyed, even though it is an average game that no one really wants to play.

Medic_wheat

Not OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply fuck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.

sirhcman

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 09/01/2016, 12:15 PMNot OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply fuck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.
Mega Man 8? or X4? 7 never came out on Saturn

Medic_wheat

Quote from: guest on 09/01/2016, 12:17 PM
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 09/01/2016, 12:15 PMNot OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply fuck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.
Mega Man 8? or X4? 7 never came out on Saturn
Blah. MM8.



I already have MMX4

KingofGames

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 09/01/2016, 12:15 PMNot OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply fuck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.
You can buy this one for $110.

http://item.ebay.com/322161725106

Oh wait, it actually sold. :-/ But good luck finding it for $50.

For the record, you can pick it up for the PS1 under $10:

http://item.ebay.com/152218325948

But where's the fun in owning the common version of the game, right?

sirhcman

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 09/01/2016, 12:22 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2016, 12:17 PM
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 09/01/2016, 12:15 PMNot OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply fuck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.
Mega Man 8? or X4? 7 never came out on Saturn
Blah. MM8.



I already have MMX4
Well good luck. I found my CIB MM8 on Saturn last year for $110 so deals can still be found if you are patient!