Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

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jonebone

Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.

tbone3969

Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 01:42 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.
Not obsessive compulsive just a pure speculator.  Same thing as a day trader on Wall Street.  Instead of speculating whether or not a stock will rise in the short term your doing it with the price of a video game.  Speaking of which I bought Nintendo at $27 thinking if they ever released a Zelda or Mario game it would go up.  Well Apple just announced today Mario Run.  Stocks at $34.
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bob

Quote from: tbone3969 on 09/07/2016, 01:47 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 01:42 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.
Not obsessive compulsive just a pure speculator.  Same thing as a day trader on Wall Street.  Instead of speculating whether or not a stock will rise in the short term your doing it with the price of a video game.  Speaking of which I bought Nintendo at $27 thinking if they ever released a Zelda or Mario game it would go up.  Well Apple just announced today Mario Run.  Stocks at $34.
you missed the P-GO wave

tbone3969

Quote from: gynt on 09/07/2016, 01:53 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 09/07/2016, 01:47 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 01:42 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.
Not obsessive compulsive just a pure speculator.  Same thing as a day trader on Wall Street.  Instead of speculating whether or not a stock will rise in the short term your doing it with the price of a video game.  Speaking of which I bought Nintendo at $27 thinking if they ever released a Zelda or Mario game it would go up.  Well Apple just announced today Mario Run.  Stocks at $34.
you missed the P-GO wave
Don't remind me.   #-o

I wanted to buy in but was on vacation when it was released.  So pissed, however, I had a feeling that they were gonna release more games so I waited for the dip and bought in at around $27.50.  I saw Fire Emblem was confirmed to be released on IOS and figured if they ever released a Mario or Zleda game it would sell like hot cakes.  Also Nintendo only receives roughly 30% of the Pokemon GO revenue.  They should get close to 100% on a Mario game (not sure what Apple's cut is).
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LostFlunky

#6954
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 01:42 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.
You misunderstood.  I never said this guy was a collectard.  He is out there to take advantage of the collectard mentality.    It has been going on for years with different players and one result.

esteban

Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 01:42 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.
Lost Monkey's point could have been clearer: Lost_Monkey was pointing out that the collectard and the flipper are a symbiotic relationship (cancerous for the hobby)...

The reason why flippers are willing to take risks is because uninformed/foolish collectards throw lots of $$$ at games.

The flipper and collectard fulfill each other, both having an orgasm: the collectard wants games and ejaculates for Magical Chase CIB, the flipper sells Magical Chase CIB at ridiculously inflated prices, having multiple orgasms as PayPal account grows bigger and bigger.
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tbone3969

Quote from: guest on 09/07/2016, 07:16 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 09/07/2016, 01:47 PMStocks at $34.
Well did you sell?
Stocks at $36.32.  I only bought 10 shares as that is all I could afford.  I'm gonna hold onto them and see if Nintendo can make a come back long term.  With my luck they will probably shit the bed with the NX.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

bob

Quote from: tbone3969 on 09/07/2016, 07:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/07/2016, 07:16 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 09/07/2016, 01:47 PMStocks at $34.
Well did you sell?
Stocks at $36.32.  I only bought 10 shares as that is all I could afford.  I'm gonna hold onto them and see if Nintendo can make a come back long term.  With my luck they will probably shit the bed with the NX.
mini will be a hot christmas item

tbone3969

Quote from: gynt on 09/07/2016, 07:56 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 09/07/2016, 07:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/07/2016, 07:16 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 09/07/2016, 01:47 PMStocks at $34.
Well did you sell?
Stocks at $36.32.  I only bought 10 shares as that is all I could afford.  I'm gonna hold onto them and see if Nintendo can make a come back long term.  With my luck they will probably shit the bed with the NX.
mini will be a hot christmas item
Yes I agree.  These are all short term boosts however.  I am hoping Nintendo gets a steady stream of great IOS games up and running and that the NX is a successful system.  If this happens I think the stock will be above $50 in a year or two.  If the NX fails again and their IOS games don't sell so well Nintendo could be outta business.  They can't afford another disaster like the WiiU.  The stock market is a gamble.  I am betting on Nintendo making a comeback.  We shall see.  I used to play a lot of craps.  I like my odds better here.
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Psycho Punch

This makes me think I should start investing on the NYSE. Buying stuff from gaming companies might be easier and more fun than doing Dow style graph analysis.
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jonebone

Kinda on topic, I bought 300 shares of Nintendo when they were $12 last February, when stock was down but Amiibo craze was in full hype.  Figured it was a no-brainer.  It jumped to $18 about 6 weeks later and I sold them all off, was happy with that return.

But boy, could have held onto them for awhile!  To be honest I don't like Nintendo at $30+ a share until they are more definitive about this NX hardware.  The mobile games are going to be very little revenue streams.  That mini USB thing is something to be excited about though.

Mathius

Quote from: esteban on 09/07/2016, 06:26 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 01:42 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.
Lost Monkey's point could have been clearer: Lost_Monkey was pointing out that the collectard and the flipper are a symbiotic relationship (cancerous for the hobby)...

The reason why flippers are willing to take risks is because uninformed/foolish collectards throw lots of $$$ at games.

The flipper and collectard fulfill each other, both having an orgasm: the collectard wants games and ejaculates for Magical Chase CIB, the flipper sells Magical Chase CIB at ridiculously inflated prices, having multiple orgasms as PayPal account grows bigger and bigger.
I found this way too entertaining to read so, denying myself this, I'm gonna go angrily beat off on my repro of Magical Chase.

xcrement5x

Quote from: Mathius on 09/07/2016, 09:37 PM
Quote from: esteban on 09/07/2016, 06:26 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 01:42 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/07/2016, 01:11 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/07/2016, 06:58 AMNo one posted the Magical chase card and manual?  I'm pretty sure he paid somewhere around $3500-$4000 for the combo, barely even 2 weeks ago.  This guy spends a lot of money fast (probably $25k+) then unwinds a lot of purchases and does it all over again.  Was into mostly Nintendo stuff, some Atari, some Sega, but now looks like some TG16 too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGICAL-CHASE-for-Turbografx-16-CARD-AND-MANUAL-ONLY-WOW-RARE-MINT-/262612857066
...and this is why people around here treat collectards the way they do.  This is a perfect example of what has been going on for years with many different resellers.  They just keep inching the prices up and up  and up.  And the newb collectards just keep buying.
No, he's not indicative of the average collector.  He's a pure speculator, or perhaps speculatard, by this forums definition.  The "collectard" is generally buying for keeps or at least buying and holding awhile until something of higher importance shows up.  This guy literally may buy on a Monday, open it on Wednesday and have it for sale Thursday.  That's obssessive compulsive disorder or something, not being a collectard.
Lost Monkey's point could have been clearer: Lost_Monkey was pointing out that the collectard and the flipper are a symbiotic relationship (cancerous for the hobby)...

The reason why flippers are willing to take risks is because uninformed/foolish collectards throw lots of $$$ at games.

The flipper and collectard fulfill each other, both having an orgasm: the collectard wants games and ejaculates for Magical Chase CIB, the flipper sells Magical Chase CIB at ridiculously inflated prices, having multiple orgasms as PayPal account grows bigger and bigger.
I found this way too entertaining to read so, denying myself this, I'm gonna go angrily beat off on my repro of Magical Chase.
We are just missing the inclusion of JO crystals and this could be historic :P
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seieienbu

Nulltard sent me a fully charged JO Crystal when I bought his Turbo Express.  Right nice of him.

This is very much an off topic post as the price was quite friendly and not a gauge in the least.
Current want list:  Bomberman 93

Damon Plus

I haven't bought a TG game since like, 2014. I took a look yesterday in Ebay and there were almost no games being sold, and even the most common games start now at 15$, loose. I would've wanted to get some more games, but I guess I'll have to settle with the 30 or so I have already.

fsa

Quote from: Damon Plus on 09/10/2016, 06:49 AMI haven't bought a TG game since like, 2014. I took a look yesterday in Ebay and there were almost no games being sold, and even the most common games start now at 15$, loose. I would've wanted to get some more games, but I guess I'll have to settle with the 30 or so I have already.
I went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Looking for TG16 games I don't have already.

crazydean

Quote from: fsa on 09/27/2016, 12:30 PMI went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.

technozombie

Quote from: crazydean on 09/27/2016, 01:09 PM
Quote from: fsa on 09/27/2016, 12:30 PMI went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.
This is not quite a 1:1 comparison. I have gone to flea markets and personally experienced sellers going around buying up games for cheap from other vendors and then trying to sell them to me for profit. Resellers/flippers(dedicated to extracting as much profit from a game as possible) are very unnecessary middle men.

A more appropriate comparison would be the eyeware industry.

CrackTiger

This thread documents years of unsold overpriced games by naive sellers. Has that $500 Bonk 3 manual been up for a decade yet?
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Gypsy

#6970
Quote from: technozombie on 09/27/2016, 02:51 PM
Quote from: crazydean on 09/27/2016, 01:09 PM
Quote from: fsa on 09/27/2016, 12:30 PMI went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.
This is not quite a 1:1 comparison. I have gone to flea markets and personally experienced sellers going around buying up games for cheap from other vendors and then trying to sell them to me for profit. Resellers/flippers(dedicated to extracting as much profit from a game as possible) are very unnecessary middle men.

A more appropriate comparison would be the eyeware industry.
Magic The Gathering had a strong parallel recently, though on a bigger scale than a fleamarket I'm not sure the video game market has seen anything quite like it yet.
TL;DW: Some people bought out just about every available copy of various Magic cards, and are now sitting on them while having them listed for way more money.

Edit: Reddit post about Moat: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/4p3r4t/reserved_list_shenanigans_moat/

seieienbu

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this sort of thing been happening with video games for a while now?  I see no other way possible that Adventures of Lowmax could've gone up 8 times what it cost just a year ago.
Current want list:  Bomberman 93

fsa

#6972
Quote from: crazydean on 09/27/2016, 01:09 PM
Quote from: fsa on 09/27/2016, 12:30 PMI went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Blaming re-sellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.
Another example of one guy selling a used copy of Minecraft Xbox edition for $25.00, when the game is selling new in store for $19.99.

I was just making a statement based on what I saw, not sure what you mean by "People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility", I don't go around buying games and turn around and try to sell at double  or triple what its worth. Most of the assholes are making up the prices and putting games out of reach of people that want to play them (ebay, kijiji, retro gaming stores, value village, and even the salvation army store).

PS. crazydean, that a very defensive statement..... but you are free to say whatever you want.
Looking for TG16 games I don't have already.

CrackTiger

No one has paid $100,000 for Magical Chase, not even for a sealed copy. It's just gouger pipe dreams.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

crazydean

Quote from: fsa on 09/28/2016, 08:52 AM
Quote from: crazydean on 09/27/2016, 01:09 PM
Quote from: fsa on 09/27/2016, 12:30 PMI went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Blaming re-sellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.
Another example of one guy selling a used copy of Minecraft Xbox edition for $25.00, when the game is selling new in store for $19.99.

I was just making a statement based on what I saw, not sure what you mean by "People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility", I don't go around buying games and turn around and try to sell at double  or triple what its worth. Most of the assholes are making up the prices and putting games out of reach of people that want to play them (ebay, kijiji, retro gaming stores, value village, and even the salvation army store).

PS. crazydean, that a very defensive statement..... but you are free to say whatever you want.
Your original statement blames the resellers for high prices. The guy trying to sell the Magical Chase for $100k will never get it, which is a good thing. He shouldn't get that much, but it's ultimately on the buyer to decide what something is worth. If a game is worth $10 to you, then you are an idiot for paying $100. You use the term "selling" instead of "asking". Selling implies that someone is buying at that price. If no one buys, then you can't say he's selling it for that much, only asking.

Also, on the statement where you say people are marking up prices, putting them out of reach for some people, I say you should find another way to play the game if you can't afford it. Or, find a new hobby.

I'm not on either side of this. I don't buy nor sell games, so this isn't defensive. I can ask $1m for my car, but that doesn't make it worth $1m. Now when someone pays me that much for it, that's where the problem begins.

NecroPhile

You're naive if you don't think high asking prices factor into what people ultimately pay for games.
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NightWolve

It's as simple as understanding that both sides play a role, desperate, big-spending nutjobs and shady resellers.

neopolss

The problem in general is that flippers and resellers keep pushing the price upwards, and since they have a global market, there's always one guy who's just crazy enough to buy it, setting the new benchmark.  It doesn't matter if there are a hundred folks who would pay a reasonable number, the holdout for the crazy guy tanks the whole industry, and prices out everyone except pharmaceudical guys with wu tang albums.  Will the prices come down?  Sure.  But do I want to sit and wait 10-20 years for prices to fall, for that flipper to finally realize he needs to lower his price?  No way!  I deal in arcade related stuff, and there are soooooooo many guys who sit on huge collections, and every piece is gold.  9 times out of 10, they sit on it until it all rots, and them no one gets to play them, and it all goes to waste.  It's a shitty shitty system and it just plain sucks.

neopolss

Quote from: crazydean on 09/27/2016, 01:09 PM
Quote from: fsa on 09/27/2016, 12:30 PMI went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.
And you know what, guy?  You may be right.  But let us have a goddamn thread to bitch and moan and get it out of our system.

NightWolve

Quote from: neopolss on 09/28/2016, 10:40 PMIt doesn't matter if there are a hundred folks who would pay a reasonable number, the holdout for the crazy guy tanks the whole industry, and prices out everyone except pharmaceutical guys with wu tang albums.
Heh-heh, that's a good way to put it...

crazydean

Quote from: neopolss on 09/28/2016, 10:41 PM
Quote from: crazydean on 09/27/2016, 01:09 PM
Quote from: fsa on 09/27/2016, 12:30 PMI went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.
Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.
And you know what, guy?  You may be right.  But let us have a goddamn thread to bitch and moan and get it out of our system.
You're right. I'm sorry. I don't really mind most of the bitching. I think it was just the "everything's so expensive when it's complete in box, poor me. I need CIB games for $5, and I need it yesterday!"

jonebone

Just to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.

tbone3969

Quote from: NightWolve on 09/28/2016, 11:05 PM
Quote from: neopolss on 09/28/2016, 10:40 PMIt doesn't matter if there are a hundred folks who would pay a reasonable number, the holdout for the crazy guy tanks the whole industry, and prices out everyone except pharmaceutical guys with wu tang albums.
Heh-heh, that's a good way to put it...
I knew Martin Shkreli bought some high priced MTG cards.  What video games has he bought?
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

seieienbu

Quote from: jonebone on 09/29/2016, 08:21 AMJust to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.
By the same token, private sales can be much lower.  I've bought a few games for prices that are ridiculously lower than the going known rates on ebay.  The problem with going by Price Charting or something to figure out what a game is worth is those types of web sites only track easy to come by data and ignore data that would require substantial work to find.
Current want list:  Bomberman 93

ginoscope

Quote from: seieienbu on 09/29/2016, 03:55 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/29/2016, 08:21 AMJust to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.
By the same token, private sales can be much lower.  I've bought a few games for prices that are ridiculously lower than the going known rates on ebay.  The problem with going by Price Charting or something to figure out what a game is worth is those types of web sites only track easy to come by data and ignore data that would require substantial work to find.
I agree with seieienbu sometimes private sales can be way lower.  I know I have friends and other contacts that would sell high priced items for way under what the recent public one sold.

o.pwuaioc

Quote from: ginoscope on 09/30/2016, 12:58 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 09/29/2016, 03:55 PM
Quote from: jonebone on 09/29/2016, 08:21 AMJust to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.
By the same token, private sales can be much lower.  I've bought a few games for prices that are ridiculously lower than the going known rates on ebay.  The problem with going by Price Charting or something to figure out what a game is worth is those types of web sites only track easy to come by data and ignore data that would require substantial work to find.
I agree with seieienbu sometimes private sales can be way lower.  I know I have friends and other contacts that would sell high priced items for way under what the recent public one sold.
Forum communities used to sell under ebay price all the time.

CrackTiger

Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!


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LETMEINPLEASE

Quote from: jonebone on 09/29/2016, 08:21 AMJust to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.
That sounds like the justification of someone who gouges...... [-X

Gentlegamer

I advocate trading on forums and places that can't be indexed by price aggregators or easily accessed by reseller/collectards. Make the "market" info hard to find and for them there is no market.

It's too bad all the work done to figure out the rarity of games in the past decade couldn't have been hidden from them, too. They free-ride on the work of others and ruin the hobby.
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Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 10/25/2015, 02:35 PMGentle with games, rough with collectards.  Riders gon riiiiide.

wju2004

Unfortunately I am a late adopter of the TG16, so sadly a product of the recent popularity, but have to say from what I have played thus far, I missed out on a great system as a kid. Of course I was at the mercy of my parent's funds when this came out so didn't stand a chance.

I will say some of the prices make my jaw drop. I never really plan on owning a Magical Chase unless I stumble upon a deal. Even then, it would be hard to keep at current prices. The most expensive I want and would play would likely be Cotton.

Thankfully I have made a few friends I can consult with since I am a fledgling in the way of TG16 collecting, but can promise that I plan to play whatever I buy. Well...other than maybe the sports games. Lol

jonebone


NecroPhile

For such a crazy price, I'd expect a nicer box.
Ultimate Forum Bully/Thief/Saboteur/Clone Warrior! BURN IN HELL NECROPHUCK!!!

Gentlegamer

$16.96 shipping... for that price I want the seller to hand delivery in person.
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Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 10/25/2015, 02:35 PMGentle with games, rough with collectards.  Riders gon riiiiide.

o.pwuaioc

This is why collecting for US systems is becoming increasingly stupid.

780racer

Quote from: jonebone on 10/07/2016, 07:12 AMNo one talking about the $4k Tonma?  I'll do mine at a bargain price of $2.5k haha.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Legend-Of-Hero-Tonma-Turbo-Grafx-16-Hu-Card-Manual-Box-Complete-USA-Can-NTSC-/222273322940
This guy/seller has a whole bunch of shit swirling around. He used outlets to pick up this and other games cheaper, then is actually pulling a scumbag steve move, and reselling them immediately for a higher price.

If I knew where he lived (He is near me) I would stab him and take the games.

CrackTiger

You can charge a 1000% premium when you have only 2 negatives and a neutral within the past month.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

HailingTheThings

Quote from: 780racer on 10/07/2016, 11:53 AMIf I knew where he lived (He is near me) I would stab him and take the games.
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o.pwuaioc

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 10/07/2016, 05:06 PM
Quote from: 780racer on 10/07/2016, 11:53 AMIf I knew where he lived (He is near me) I would stab him and take the games.
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=D> I laughed perhaps too hard at that.