what would you do...

Started by bob, 11/01/2016, 08:15 PM

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bob

...if you were the buyer?

so this happened:
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/162246163178

then a few days later, this listing came up (same seller)
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/162251937870
it was listed for $999, but he has since lowered it.

i PM'd him asking what happened with the $107.99 copy and he responded that it was originally listed for $1149.99 and he wanted to lower it to $1079.99, but accidentally set it at $107.99 and somebody bought it instantly.  he said he cancelled the sale to relist it.

so personally, i understand it was an error, but i bet some buyers would be furious.

what would you do?

esteban

I would get the Japanese version. :)
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crazydean

If you make a mistake while listing it, you don't have to sell it.

If you put up a car for sale for $100, you shouldn't be required to sell it because there was a mistake in the listing.

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SignOfZeta

I'd report him and not feel even slightly bad about it. Maybe he fucked up, but his explaination condemns him more than his mistake does. $1200 for a damned Turbo Grafx game is nuts and his fine tuning the nuts price so badly that he posted a live auction with the price %90 off makes him look as dumb as he is greedy.

This assumes I'd be the sort to actually shop for TG games in 2016 though, and that's not me at all. So your question doesn't really apply to me. "What I would do" is play imports and boots, which, incidentally is what I was doing when this game was $40.
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blueraven

I remember this being an issue bitd on eBay (late 1990's, Early 2000's), and then eBay came up with the rule that crazydean mentioned.

I think a corvette sold for like $50 or something. I don't remember the details but it was something that level of extreme.

Personally, I'd be disappointed but guess what just happened to me yesterday:

I bought Rayxanber 3 Sealed on Amazon for $135 last week from a seller in Japan. The order was immediately cancelled, and they informed me that they didn't have the game anymore. I wont mention how much the game is selling for sealed. I wasn't able to give them any feedback, either. The order was removed yesterday at noon from my history.

Was I pissed? Disappointed. And to be fair, I haven't seen that seller relist it (...but I AM WATCHING)

Similar shenanigans, Amazon style.

DeshDildo

There must be a recent infusion of dumb fuck on ebay more than usual lately.  I posted stuff that ended last weekend.  Haven't received payment on one of the listings... immediately started a non paid item claim after the 48 hours.  This is why I stopped selling on ebay the last time.  People bid on shit then don't pay for it and wastes my time.  I decided to try ebay again since I had some recent transactions through this forum that were annoying.  Come to think of it, there's just a major infusion of dumb fuck in society as a whole these days (see Presidential candidates).

Anyways, galam I would be a dick with the feedback.
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seieienbu

First a question; can you even leave feedback in a case like this?

Assuming that I could, I would definitely leave bad feedback and a scathing remark about how it didn't go for enough money so the seller cancelled and relisted.   Make him sound like a greedy asshole.
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NecroPhile

I'd leave negative feedback and complain to ebay.  They won't do anything for a single instance, of course, but it does effect the seller's defect rate.

A winning bid is just as much a binding contract for the seller as it is for the buyer.  Listing something with the wrong price is no more a valid excuse to back out of a sale than the seller saying they bid the wrong price.
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csgx1

Not much you can do in this case.   Leave negative feedback and move on.

sirhcman

This happened to me on a .99 cent Tatsujin I bought on ebay. I was nice and left neutral feedback and the guy still flipped out!

His user id was joeharris85

bob

Quote from: guest on 11/02/2016, 10:55 AMThis happened to me on a .99 cent Tatsujin I bought on ebay. I was nice and left neutral feedback and the guy still flipped out!

His user id was joeharris85
he meant to list it at $999.99?

sirhcman

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Quote from: gynt on 11/02/2016, 11:07 AM
Quote from: guest on 11/02/2016, 10:55 AMThis happened to me on a .99 cent Tatsujin I bought on ebay. I was nice and left neutral feedback and the guy still flipped out!

His user id was joeharris85
he meant to list it at $999.99?
Here was his response after I left the following NEUTRAL feedback:
Quotecancelled my winning bid. claimed error
I cancelled the order per his request and then left him feedback. I never even contacted him, just left feedback. I am still waiting for him to leave me negative feedback ;)

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bob

Top rated Power Seller doesnt know he cant leave neg feedback for buyers??

sirhcman

Quote from: gynt on 11/02/2016, 12:34 PMTop rated Power Seller doesnt know he cant leave neg feedback for buyers??
The whole thing was comical.. If you look at his feedback now he has gotten other neutrals and some negatives even. Obviously not a very nice guy

In hindsight I should have agreed to revise feedback and then given him negative but he flipped out over neutral and I didn't want to poke the beast :)

DildoKKKobold

I think its a douche move to leave negative/neutral feedback when its an obvious seller mistake. You may take issue with the guy's pricing, but that isn't a reason to ding his feedback. He made a honest mistake. Expecting to get a $100 game for $1 is just ridiculous.

That said, I've never understood the obsession with 100% perfect feedback. Its not like things stop selling as well, just because you have 99.8% feedback. Hell, some of these Chinese sellers have feedback in the 96% range and are still selling just fine.
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sirhcman

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Quote from: guest on 11/02/2016, 12:45 PMI think its a douche move to leave negative/neutral feedback when its an obvious seller mistake. You may take issue with the guy's pricing, but that isn't a reason to ding his feedback. He made a honest mistake. Expecting to get a $100 game for $1 is just ridiculous.

That said, I've never understood the obsession with 100% perfect feedback. Its not like things stop selling as well, just because you have 99.8% feedback. Hell, some of these Chinese sellers have feedback in the 96% range and are still selling just fine.
Have you never purchased an item from ebay for an insane price (via BIN) and thought it might be an error but still received said item? Sometimes people honor their mistakes and sometimes people don't know what they have. For being such a  savvy top rated seller he should have previewed his auctions before posting. I think neutral was warranted.

Also had he not gone insane in his response to me and was a bit nicer I would have been inclined to change my feedback to positive.

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: guest on 11/02/2016, 12:49 PMHave you never purchased an item from ebay for an insane price (via BIN) and thought it might be an error but still received said item? Sometimes people honor their mistakes and sometimes people don't know what they have. For being such a  savvy top rated seller he should have previewed his auctions before posting. I think neutral was warranted.

Also had he not gone insane in his response to me and was a bit nicer I would have been inclined to change my feedback to positive.
Yeah, I have. And I've also never been upset when the item does get canceled, or left negative/neutral feedback.

I've also been on the receiving end, where I clearly missed a digit in the price. Every buyer has graciously accepted my apology/cancellation.

Quote from: Nulltard on 11/01/2016, 09:52 PMImmediate negative. No correspondence, just insta-neg. Then I'd post about it here with war and peace diatribes. Finally, I would delete my account.
Holy shit, that is hilarious. I missed it the first time.
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sirhcman

Quote from: guest on 11/02/2016, 12:53 PMYeah, I have. And I've also never been upset when the item does get canceled, or left negative/neutral feedback.

I've also been on the receiving end, where I clearly missed a digit in the price. Every buyer has graciously accepted my apology/cancellation.
My feedback was neither positive nor negative, it was neutral since the transaction wasn't completed. I wasn't upset that I didn't get the item.. as I mentioned before I agreed to cancel the order per the sellers request and received the refund back. I never brow beat or demanded the item since I won either

NecroPhile

Neutral feedback is entirely warranted.  Honest mistake or not, the guy fucked up and didn't deserve positive feedback.

The only douche is the seller for flipping out over nigh meaningless neutral feedback.
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DildoKKKobold

Quote from: NecroPhile on 11/02/2016, 01:04 PMNeutral feedback is entirely warranted.  Honest mistake or not, the guy fucked up and didn't deserve positive feedback.

The only douche is the seller for flipping out over nigh meaningless neutral feedback.
The seller was a douche for flipping out. I'm not saying he deserved positive feedback. You can just... not leave any feedback. That is also an option.
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TurboXray

As a seller: it's your responsibility to properly list an item, that includes the correct starting prices, but it now, and what not. Your responsibility - no one else. And it is an inconvenience to the buyer, or prospective buyer. Feedback ~is~ warranted, because you should be paying attention to what you're doing. No excuse. You had a chance to review it before submitting it. So apparently you were slacking both times, wasting other people's time. Your feedback should be reflected as such - especially if you let it go to the point of sale, then discover the error.

 Joe Harris is a lil' bitch - lol. I would have changed it to negative after that little whine fit - what's he gonna do? Make a mistake and waste people's time: get a neutral. Whine lil bitch in response instead of owning up to it: get a negative.

xcrement5x

Yeah, if the seller explained it reasonably I'd be fine with it. 

Also, underpriced BINs are like the only way to get deals anymore it seems like.  And many times if it is from a person who sells all the time they will take a small monetary loss just to have it out the door and not futz with the buyer.

Sometimes you get lucky and the item even shows up, like a copy of Dynastic Hero for a fraction of what it'll end at on auction.  :P
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Quote from: TurboXray on 11/02/2016, 01:49 PMAs a seller: it's your responsibility to properly list an item, that includes the correct starting prices, but it now, and what not. Your responsibility - no one else. And it is an inconvenience to the buyer, or prospective buyer. Feedback ~is~ warranted, because you should be paying attention to what you're doing. No excuse. You had a chance to review it before submitting it. So apparently you were slacking both times, wasting other people's time. Your feedback should be reflected as such - especially if you let it go to the point of sale, then discover the error.
Bingo!

As many who know me are aware. I had an issue with a particular super power seller on ebay who listed an item with a .01 starting price (noted not just in the price but in the listing). Was shocked no one else bid on the item and refused to sell me the item in question. For the past decade I've refused to deal with them. If you're going to list items on ebay, you should be willing to honor the prices listed.
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esteban

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 11/02/2016, 03:15 PM
Quote from: TurboXray on 11/02/2016, 01:49 PMAs a seller: it's your responsibility to properly list an item, that includes the correct starting prices, but it now, and what not. Your responsibility - no one else. And it is an inconvenience to the buyer, or prospective buyer. Feedback ~is~ warranted, because you should be paying attention to what you're doing. No excuse. You had a chance to review it before submitting it. So apparently you were slacking both times, wasting other people's time. Your feedback should be reflected as such - especially if you let it go to the point of sale, then discover the error.
Bingo!

As many who know me are aware. I had an issue with a particular super power seller on ebay who listed an item with a .01 starting price (noted not just in the price but in the listing). Was shocked no one else bid on the item and refused to sell me the item in question. For the past decade I've refused to deal with them. If you're going to list items on ebay, you should be willing to honor the prices listed.
I remember this!

This was for a copy of Tombraider (MS DOS), correct?
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: esteban on 11/02/2016, 03:35 PMI remember this!

This was for a copy of Tombraider (MS DOS), correct?
Well, I know how much fun a game involving braiding hair with Tom would be. But no, it was Samurai Spirits 2 for Neo Geo AES circa 2006.
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Gypsy

Quote from: TurboXray on 11/02/2016, 01:49 PMAs a seller: it's your responsibility to properly list an item, that includes the correct starting prices, but it now, and what not. Your responsibility - no one else. And it is an inconvenience to the buyer, or prospective buyer. Feedback ~is~ warranted, because you should be paying attention to what you're doing. No excuse. You had a chance to review it before submitting it. So apparently you were slacking both times, wasting other people's time. Your feedback should be reflected as such - especially if you let it go to the point of sale, then discover the error.

 Joe Harris is a lil' bitch - lol. I would have changed it to negative after that little whine fit - what's he gonna do? Make a mistake and waste people's time: get a neutral. Whine lil bitch in response instead of owning up to it: get a negative.
Completely agree about the feedback being warranted. At the very least it lets people know that not everything goes smoothly with him.

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 11/02/2016, 03:15 PMBingo!

As many who know me are aware. I had an issue with a particular super power seller on ebay who listed an item with a .01 starting price (noted not just in the price but in the listing). Was shocked no one else bid on the item and refused to sell me the item in question. For the past decade I've refused to deal with them. If you're going to list items on ebay, you should be willing to honor the prices listed.
I had a couple similar instances.

One of them I bought a heavy PC game LE for $1.25 + undercosted shipping. The seller cancelled and refunded (presumably after seeing the real shipping charges) without messaging me first. I contacted them once I saw that and after talking a bit, they sent me a payment request for $1.25 + actual shipping.

So that was the positive one... Another time I won a DVDO Iscan HD+ for 99 cents plus actual shipping (it was $15 and change iirc so def they could have shipped it for this price or less). The seller was not happy that it ended at a dollar (lol) and tried to strong arm me for more money. I politely told them to shove it (except I was actually polite) and they of course refunded and canceled after I refused to send them more money off Ebay.

I'm going into the echo chamber now but yeah, the listing is the seller's responsibility. Double or triple check shit before actually posting it up instead of being in a hurry to try and get money. Also do not post up an auction starting at an amount for less than an acceptable amount. One can't assume it will magically get bids up to some predetermined value in one's head. It's all pretty damn simple really but sellers fuck it up time and time again.

blueraven

You could have escalated the situation. That said, I also think that DK is right and that nobody in their right mind would sell a 1c Tatsujin, and that I have also mis-listed things by a single digit or so; like the first time I sold a car on eBay, and quickly corrected my mistake... but Dan is also right and that people should honor low-dollar transactions and not back out, or just simply be honest in the 1st place. What kind of an idiot lists a game for pennies and then backs out after 7-10 days?

Personally I have sold stuff for 1c plus shipping just to get shit out of my storage unit. CD's, shitty PS1 games, Atari 2600 carts, car parts, etc. All in all, People should be more aware of what they do on the internets, and the fault lies with the seller for mis-listing it, and then treating you like shit for his mistake.

At first glance, I thought he referred himself as a "Power Metal Master of Power eBay Selling". I lol'd.

And Yes, Dan. I am fully aware of your plight with that eBay powerseller.

Fuck that seller, sirhcman.

martinine

Remember my post last month about Seymour Onion? Never heard back. Opened a claim. Got my money back and bought sleeves elsewhere.

On a positive note, scooped TES Oblivion for $4 shipped on a cheap BIN last week.

I have a hard time deciding who is right in the aforementioned situations. There is a lot of grey area. What I do know is that no one should ever get called a little bitch for whatever feedback gets left. That's the definition of projecting...
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esteban

Quote from: guest on 11/02/2016, 10:24 PM
Quote from: martinine on 11/02/2016, 08:29 PMRemember my post last month about Seymour Onion? Never heard back. Opened a claim. Got my money back and bought sleeves elsewhere.

On a positive note, scooped TES Oblivion for $4 shipped on a cheap BIN last week.

I have a hard time deciding who is right in the aforementioned situations. There is a lot of grey area. What I do know is that no one should ever get called a little bitch for whatever feedback gets left. That's the definition of projecting...
You are all little bitches.

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P.s. does anyone know if Seymour Onion is still alive? I am honestly concerned.
Yeah, we haven't heard a pip or a peep or a snip or a sneep from him in a long time.

Also, I still haven't received an item from a forum member. It has been over three years. I think I should send him another email.


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