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Wonderboy III: The Dragon's Trap REMAKE

Started by jlued686, 05/31/2016, 11:49 AM

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jlued686

Looks like it's being unveiled tomorrow. There's a countdown timer on the official site:
http://www.thedragonstrap.com/

Developed by Lizardcube, which is Omar Cornut from Media Molecule and Ben Fiquet.

QuoteWho?
Lizardcube was founded by:

Omar Cornut / Coder (past lives at Media Molecule "Tearaway" bits of "Dreams", Q-Games "Pixeljunk Shooter" series, "Soul Bubbles", bits of "WiLD", creator of "dear imgui", "meka", etc.) http://www.miracleworld.net

Ben Fiquet / Comic & Animation Artist (past lives on "Soul Bubbles", "Powa", "Les Chevaliers de la Chouette", working with Dreamworks, Zodiac Kids etc.) http://www.benfiquet.com
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DragonmasterDan

I hate the art style in the promotional material
--DragonmasterDan

SignOfZeta

I think I the art is fine, I'd be more likely to question the point of a remake in the first place. 
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CrackTiger

Is this licensed by Sega? That other Monster World game wasn't last I heard and it has major talent involved. If this is a fan project, they shouldn't be hyping it.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

jlued686

I'm guessing that since this is a legit developer this probably isn't a fan project.

EmperorIng

Quote from: guest on 05/31/2016, 09:26 PMI'm guessing that since this is a legit developer this probably isn't a fan project.
Well, "legit developer" is a funny term these days. The makers of the new Monster Boy or w/e it's called are "legit developers"... of mobile games, despite having the input and assistance of Yuzo Koshiro et al. from Sega's back catalog of cool dudes.

Given the fact that Monster Boy is in essence a remake/spiritual sequel of Dragon's Trap, it's an odd choice to flood the market with two similar games, assuming they even release near one another.

jlued686

By legit, I meant two dudes with actual resumes and not just hobbyists.

jlued686

The trailer is up:
QuoteA good curse makes a good game (or so they say)! turned into a half-human, half-lizard monstrosity by the Meka-Dragon, a lonesome adventurer is facing the challenge of a lifetime! In search for a cure, our mutated anti-hero will explore the many traps of Monster Land... and defeat many stuff-throwing, curse-wielding dragons. How many more transformations can one hopeful body survive, as it turns into a Lizard, a Mouse, a Piranha, a Lion, and a Hawk... The six different forms of our shape-shifting hero make up the cast of this non-stop action-adventure platformer!

Featuring
◾A huge interconnected world!
◾6 playable forms for our shape-shifting hero, with different abilities!
◾Dragons of all kinds! A Zombie Dragon! A Mummy Dragon! A Samurai Dragon!
◾An eye-patch wearing shop-keeper pig who may or may not provide a sense of warmth and direction!
◾Beautiful, hand-drawn animated graphics!
◾A memorable soundtrack, based on Shinichi Sakamoto's originals, re-imagined and recorded with classical instruments!
◾...and more to be announced!

History
A cult classic
We took on making a modern version of the 1989 Master System / PC Engine cult classic created by Westone (Ryuichi Nishizawa, Takanori Kurihara, Hiromi Kurihara and Shinichi Sakamoto). With the help of Ryuichi Nishizawa (Westone), Shinji Fujiwara (LAT), and a relentless commitment of DotEmu to untangle a bunch of documents covered in pixellated dustwebs, we have licensed the IP to create this new version (a first since 1994).
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xcrement5x

That trailer looks pretty sweet actually.
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Gredler


poponon

looks cool - maybe i can convince my non-retro gaming friends to give this one a shot . I think i'll stick with pce version tho

Dicer


CrackTiger

Glad it's licensed. The visuals aren't what I want, but unique enough and not off-putting like the Bonk remakes, that I'm interested in playing it at the right price.

I still really want to do a proper 16-bit remake for PC Engine.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

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johnnykonami

Watched this earlier, looks really nice!  I wonder if the animation is finished though, looks like it could use a couple in between frames here and there.  Not sure about the music, I'd have to hear more of it but remakes always seem to think doing an orchestral/classical version of the original music is the way to go.  I'm not sure that's always a good fit and if anything kinda lends itself to sounding generic.  In any case they put a lot of work into it and I'll definitely buy it should it show up on Steam.

Gredler

Quote from: johnnykonami on 06/02/2016, 10:35 PMWatched this earlier, looks really nice!  I wonder if the animation is finished though, looks like it could use a couple in between frames here and there.  Not sure about the music, I'd have to hear more of it but remakes always seem to think doing an orchestral/classical version of the original music is the way to go.  I'm not sure that's always a good fit and if anything kinda lends itself to sounding generic.  In any case they put a lot of work into it and I'll definitely buy it should it show up on Steam.
I hope they prioritize gameplay over animation frame count. I often have argued with art directors, especially on fighting games I've worked on, that too many frames can ruin the feel of a game.

Killer instinct and street fighter have recently proved that sometimes less frames goes a long way to capture the snappy feel of certain games.

I was really pleased to see the fluidity of animation paired with snappy animations.

Dark souls and monster hunter this is not, and often current developers can prioritize fancy art and animation over gameplay, rather than marrying the two with compromise

BigusSchmuck

This looks really cool. I only hope its better than the Duck Tales remake.

technozombie

I'm not a big fan of the art style, not that its bad, I just don't like it as much as the style of the Monster Boy game. I'm definitely interested in seeing how this turns out.

ParanoiaDragon

That looks dope!  I do agree, the art style for Monster Boy is more up my alley.  Still, this should be cool.  Looking forward to hearing how they handle the soundtrack, though, like others have said, not sure about it being orchestral.  I know I've always wanted to try my hand at the tunes, like so many other projects I've thought about over the years.
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Medic_wheat

It was a fun short animated clip of nothing else.



Is it me or does that cloud enemy remind you of Zonk with the totally RAD sunglasses?

The game art reminds me more of a flash game honestly. With that said I'll wait and see what comes of this. Maybe there will be a new game to play. Maybe not. It's all up to licensing and ability to distribut the game once completed.

jeffhlewis

Oh man, this is one of the pillars of my childhood. They better not mess with the soundtrack!

Looks cool from the early trailer stuff, I'll definitely give it a shot...I'm a bit more excited for Monster Boy though.

technozombie

#21
There is a new 17 minute video up on youtube. The game is looking pretty good IMO.

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Digi.k

art style reminds me of those 1980's tv animated kids shows.

TheClash603

Reminds me of Angry Birds, not fan.

BigusSchmuck

I'm sorry, but the remake for the one of the best pieces in this game doesn't sound all that great. :/
http://www.thedragonstrap.com/blog/post/201611_ThePiranhaMan/

wildfruit

It looks over done. In fairness im not a huge fan of the series. Only ever played rentals of the master system ones. Didn't sway me to buy.

LostFlunky

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 12/20/2016, 11:19 PMI'm sorry, but the remake for the one of the best pieces in this game doesn't sound all that great. :/
http://www.thedragonstrap.com/blog/post/201611_ThePiranhaMan/
I would agree - the remade song lost the essence of the original.

blueraven

Unbelievably Awesome. I love the artwork. This game has been moved to the top of my want list.

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jlued686

QuoteDotEmu, developer and publisher specializing in modern releases of beloved retro games, and Lizardcube, are thrilled to reveal an exciting new feature in our Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap remake: the "Retro" Feature.

Whether you're a purist touting the idea that "it was better in the old days" or a futurist who digs 21st-century graphics and remastered soundtracks, this enhanced version of Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap satisfies all persuasions. With the Retro Feature you can switch in-game from HD to 8-bit anytime, anywhere. If you have fond memories of piano key neckties and talking Trans Ams, the Retro Feature lets you go back in time with just the press of a button!

Nostalgists can load their last save from 1989 by entering the password scribbled on their geometry homework, or join millennials in beginning an adventure that defined an entire gaming generation!

Wonder Boy : The Dragon's Trap will be available this spring on PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch.
https://youtu.be/qwy351pLXas

DragonmasterDan

Quote from: KingDrool on 02/24/2017, 10:16 AMhttps://youtu.be/qwy351pLXas
While the HD sequences animate smoothly and use nice colors I HATE the art style. It looks like WonderBoy III: The Dragon's Crap.
--DragonmasterDan

Xtrasmiley

Man, I'll have to disagree. I think it looks awesome and it just moved to my must buy list...

PukeSter

The instant graphic switch button from 8-bit to modern styles is crazy impressive, just like Halo Anniversary. Does that mean it's somehow the same engine?

CrackTiger

Quote from: PukeSter on 02/25/2017, 07:13 PMThe instant graphic switch button from 8-bit to modern styles is crazy impressive, just like Halo Anniversary. Does that mean it's somehow the same engine?
No it means that Halo and WBIII are using the R-Type engine.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Gredler

No, not the same engine.

Looking great, DotEmu is killing it right now - good for them!

esadajr

Good news is this will be on PC, some day
Gaming since 1985

jlued686


xcrement5x

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CrackTiger

I'd much rather play as HU-WOMAN. Hopefully she has female variants of the beast forms.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Michirin9801

Quote from: CrackTiger on 03/22/2017, 02:04 PMI'd much rather play as HU-WOMAN.
So would I, just like I would prefer to play with the PCE music, that's a mod that needs to happen!

esteban

I must admit that I am curious about how this will turn out.

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exodus

my buddy is making this. he can switch graphics and sound on the fly because he makes incredibly good tools!

technozombie

Crazy that you can use passwords back and forth between the master system version.

technozombie

Anyone get this yet? I'm  still busy with Legend of Zelda,  but I'm tempted to buy it just to make my kids play it.

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Gredler

I am considering it. I have been playing blaster master, and haven't had the incentive to do more of the similar in Zelda after taking gannon out (~80 shrines, ~120 korok seeds).

If there were a physical version of this I'd have to go get it for sure, I am hesitant about buying stuff digital but if that's the only option I might have to bite on this one.

jlued686

I just bought it on the eShop website and will play it as soon as I get home. I've seen a lot of positive reviews and impressions this morning, so I'm pretty excited to play it.

Joe Redifer

I've bought it and played 1 hour and 45 minutes so far. I'm on the Lion Man part. The retro mode runs at 60fps unlike the SMS which ran at 30fps because it is a weak little system that's just not powerful enough for the 60fps blazing mega speed.

CrackTiger

I guess that they made to make it run at 60fps to keep the switch-mode in sync.

I don't remember there being a 60fps option in the PS2 Monster World Collection.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

jlued686

Played it up through the merman part. I absolutely love it. I found a secret area, which was crazy hard, but everything else plays just like the original.

ParanoiaDragon

Grabbed it this morning before heading to work & played it for a few minutes, seems dope!
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technozombie

Quote from: KingDrool on 04/18/2017, 11:57 PMPlayed it up through the merman part. I absolutely love it. I found a secret area, which was crazy hard, but everything else plays just like the original.
Was the secret area something that was in the original or something they added?