How did my PCE remember this

[rasterfarian]

Hello all,

I have a Core II which as far as I know cannot save any game data, but - I used a level select cheat on Splatterhouse, and it worked fine.....but only twice. Then it wouldn't work any more. Turned it off and on a couple of times, thinking it would clear out any memory of using the cheat.

So - am I wrong about it having no internal memory, or did it save a change to the hucard, or ???

I can't think of any way other than it counting that I'd used the cheat and saving that I'd used it, to stop it working any more times. It interested me as if it did save someplace then that means I should be able to save scores too. Somehow.

I'll try it again later and see if the cheat is working again, and try other d-pads etc.

If I was wrong about there being no internal memory - um, does anyone know how to see what there is saved on it and how to clear it?

[nat]

The CoreGrafx consoles have no memory. Neither does the Splatterhouse cart.

Either you are entering the code wrong or something is funky with your controller.

Make sure the turbo switches are all in the OFF (lower-most) position.

[NecroPhile]

Welcome aboard!

Like nat said, there is nothing being saved anywhere.  Either your controller is wonky, your cartridge is haunted (oooh, spooky), or there's a short between the controller and the chair.  The correct code is Select, Select, Select, hold Left and press Run when the house and lightning are on screen.  Good luck.

[Kitsunexus]

or there's a short between the controller and the chair.

Where does the controller connect to the chair!? 

[guyjin]

PEBCAK - problem exists between chair and keyboard. 

[nat]

or there's a short between the controller and the chair

Necromancer is on fire this week.

First the q-tips and now this.

[Keranu]

or there's a short between the controller and the chair

Necromancer is on fire this week.

First the q-tips and now this.

Haha, yeah! I never heard these terms before either, we're all learning something new.

[nat]

Actually, I've heard both before.

When I was younger I actually thought I had personally coined the Q-tip line myself.

[Tatsujin]

the PC Engine is the only known system alive, for sure it remember and never forget anything you did to it!

[Keranu]

the PC Engine is the only known system alive, for sure it remember and never forget anything you did to it!

Very true. And if you don't play your PCE enough, it has been known to kill it's owners.

[Tatsujin]

only fair!

[guyjin]

I don't actually have splatterhouse (is this the Japanese version or US?) or I'd help you out.

[nat]

Who's actually tried the cheat on an actual hucard and it definitely keeps on working?

Well, we don't really need to do that to know that it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the system OR the cartridge to "remember" anything in any way, shape or form. Neither one has a battery backed-up memory, or any other kind of memory for that matter. 

Therefor we can conclude that the problem is either user error or controller malfunction of some sort.

If you read back, I did try to provide you with some useful information. I said make sure the turbo switches (the little sliders above buttons I and II) are in the DOWNWARD setting when you are entering the code.

[NecroPhile]

Who's actually tried the cheat on an actual hucard and it definitely keeps on working?

A bit touchy, eh?  The first two responses gave you relevant answers; like nat and I said, either your controller is not working properly or you entered the code wrong.  There are no other logical explanations.  I don't have the PCE version, but I can confirm that the code works fine on the TG-16 version.

[nat]

No, what's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE is for the same cheat code to cease to work, when the controller continues to works exactly as it had been

Unless the operator is making some mistake upon entering it.

For the third time, feel free to check the settings of your turbo switches. You seem to be ignoring that piece of advice when it could very well be your problem.

Oh, and take a chill pill. Necromancer was playing around. Making a joke. A funny. Ha ha. That kind of thing. Put down the sword for a minute and see we're actually trying to help you.

[NecroPhile]

Alright, you're not touchy, just grouchy.  I apologize if you thought that I meant to imply that you are a retarded oaf - I only meant that you may have entered the code incorrectly or at the wrong time (I'm not perfect, but mayhap you are).  I'll stand by my original assessment that you either entered the code wrong, your controller is acting up intermittently, or you had the turbo switches on (as nat has suggested a few dozen times).  The only other possible explanation that I can think of is that your HuCard is faulty, which is unlikely unless you've somehow mistreated it.  There is no way that a bare CoreGrafx could save anything, period, end of story.

[_Paul]

Faulty card = pretty unlikely.

Faulty controller = kind of likely although it working fine outside of this cheat makes it seem unlikely.

You making a dog's breakfast of putting the code in = most likely.

There don't seem to be any other credible explanations that I can think of.

[Kitsunexus]

"Hence, duh" is literary genius I would compare to the likes of Shakespeare!

"Do you bite your thumb at me, sir!?"
"Hence, duh."
"AGASP!" 

Also, you don't have to put /end sarcasm in quotes, because one, I know you weren't really jaded enough to say it in real life and two, the forum won't use it as SMF code.

And also dude, check your damn controller. Despite what you may think, these people do know what they're talking about.

You making a dog's breakfast

WTF!? Am I the only one who has never heard these sayings before? 

[Kitsunexus]

Actually guys, it does say that Splatterhouse for the Turbo-Grafx contains 4 bytes of RAM, presumably so it can store the options, and possibly the cheat variables:

http://splatterhouse.classicgaming.gamespy.com/turbo.html

[nat]

http://splatterhouse.classicgaming.gamespy.com/turbo.html

WTF?!?

 

[Kitsunexus]

^____^

[NecroPhile]

Faulty controller = kind of likely although it working fine outside of this cheat makes it seem unlikely.

True, though I once had a controller that would randomly use turbo on button I (due to a cracked board).  Since turbo doesn't do anything unless the button is held (in most games), it wasn't really noticeable.

Actually guys, it does say that Splatterhouse for the Turbo-Grafx contains 4 bytes of RAM, presumably so it can store the options, and possibly the cheat variables:

www.notfunny.com

Lame.  Surprise!

[_Paul]

Who's actually tried the cheat on an actual hucard and it definitely keeps on working?

Yes I have. Yes it does.

[spenoza]

OK, to summarize... Unless you have a CD or Booster attachment, there is no way your Turbo or your Splatterhouse game can save any settings. This means either the game, your hardware, or your fingers (and thus code entry abilities) have developed a problem.

I will tell you that some game codes are very finicky. Sometimes I'll get codes right several times and then I won't be able to get them to work for weeks on end because some aspect of my timing is off.

The consensus here appears to be that either your code entry or controller conditions have changed a little and that's throwing you off. You don't have to like it, or even agree, for it to be true. You can't be perfect all the time.

AFAIK there's no other help we can really offer up with what you've given us to work with.

[Kitsunexus]

You can't be perfect all the time.

Unlike me. 

[nat]

I just checked the code and apparently it doesn't involve buttons I and II anyway, so I guess the turbo switches wouldn't be a problem. Sorry 'bout that.

EDIT: Disregard.

[Kitsunexus]

I just checked the code and apparently it doesn't involve buttons I and II anyway, so I guess the turbo switches wouldn't be a problem. Sorry 'bout that.

No, you had it right:

Splatterhouse Level Select
While the rain is falling on the title screen, press Run and press Select, Select, Select. Next hit Button I while holding Down-Left on the directional pad.

Note: If you select level 0 you'll warp to the final boss.

http://www.cheataddict.com/turbografx16/splatterhouse/cheats/7340.html

[nat]

Hahaha, what a moron. I love Internet tough guys.

Up until now I've been trying to be nothing but helpful, but I'm done with that.

You aren't going to get very far around here with that kind of attitude, BTW.

[Kitsunexus]

I'm way more than that "jaded" enough for real to say a lot more than that. Anyone dumb enough to try talking to me that way and I didn't know who they were - let's say there are ways of getting to them that their cowardly anonymity shielding doesn't help them with.
Not of course, and I shouldn't have to point this out either, that anyone here could possibly have any knowledge of what I am like for-real. We haven't met, so you don't know me then do you. How can you guess what I'm like for real based on two posts about one topic; that's just mentally ill. It's also a lot more PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE than the possibility that a console or a hucard might have properties some people don't know about.
Maybe someone you do know likes to pretend they are people you reply to online. Or maybe you have people here believe you can slide up banisters against gravity, & perhaps time will tell what fingers you have their weak minds twisted around. I'll certainly be keeping a watch on this topic.

I'm not sure if going by the comments that the hucard is considered here to contain any RAM or not. However that was going to be my next thing to point out - all the hucards I have have the means to save the scores (no additional peripherals required) while the game remains on. Turn it off and they forget it, since there's no longer any power being supplied by the console. That sounds like RAM and I've certainly seen other people in other forums saying there are hucards that contain RAM. Where else might the scores be being saved. You'd think anyone that knew things about consoles might have noticed something like temporary score saves.

And since it keeps coming up, no I didn't move the turbo buttons. Once it stopped working, I then tried them in different positions. If I had moved them previously, and the cheat ceased working, then I'd have considered that that may have been why. I can appreciate that maybe some people find that the way they enter codes changes from second to second, but it doesn't with me. I've entered a lot of cheats in my time on multiple different machines etc and I've not had that problem.
If it works, it works. If I happen to get a timing wrong, it only happens a couple of time max - not indefinitely.

If you thought I moved the turbo buttons and neglected to say so or consider that - then you are trying to call me an idiot. But it's you that's the idiot.

Oh and - the chill pill. I did explain already that I'm not the one being unreasonable here. What do you think this is - if I'd have been that way to anyone then I'd have been well aware that I was trying to use them to make myself look funny to the ignorant morons (not that I'd do such a thing - play to ignorant morons or use people that way). So why should I treat it any different if someone thinks they can try it on me. You must be used to interacting only with total dipshits or you have no life outside web forums, text-messaging, and chatrooms.

TLDR. Anyway, we don't care how you are in real life because this is how you are on the internet. Go fuck yourself.

[NecroPhile]

I tried to apologize for the perceived slight; what more do you want tough guy?  I don't really care what you're like in real life, but I bet you're a hoot.

I'm not sure if going by the comments that the hucard is considered here to contain any RAM or not. However that was going to be my next thing to point out - all the hucards I have have the means to save the scores (no additional peripherals required) while the game remains on. Turn it off and they forget it, since there's no longer any power being supplied by the console. That sounds like RAM and I've certainly seen other people in other forums saying there are hucards that contain RAM. Where else might the scores be being saved. You'd think anyone that knew things about consoles might have noticed something like temporary score saves.

You are absolutely wrong here.  The HuCard is not storing any of the temporary data - it's in the system's memory, which is why it's lost when you turn off the power.  The only HuCards that are capable of saving without any peripherals are those that have the RomRam logo - Tennokoe Bank and Populous.  You stated that you cycled the power, so nothing could have been saved that would've prevented the code from working (unless you cycled the power really quickly, which could've caused any type of error).  This brings us back to either a hardware problem or a user error (which is not an insult unless you have a God complex).

[_Paul]

Oh, paul there - seeing as it looks like you run the Bible site; I noticed the other day looking at sites that come up in a search that some of your pages don't work / display properly.

In fact oddly enough one of them was the cheat page(s) that google directed me to. How co-incidental.

That's particularly odd as I don't have any cheat pages on my site.

[NecroPhile]

That's particularly odd as I don't have any cheat pages on my site.

Are you saying that I'm stupid and unable to negotiate a web site, or that I'm confusing your site with a different one?  Them's fighting words!

[nat]

Yeah yoo bettah watch out if ya said that too me in reel life I'd kick yer arse sonny.

[Tatsujin]

Actually guys, it does say that Splatterhouse for the Turbo-Grafx contains 4 bytes of RAM, presumably so it can store the options, and possibly the cheat variables:

http://splatterhouse.classicgaming.gamespy.com/turbo.html

teh funney.

anyway, RAM wouldn't help you to store anything, unless there is an add. battery built-in as well. but all that just for a secret cheat limitation?

[GUTS]

To the rastafarian gaylord, are you really so fucking stupid that you think pretending to be a tough guy on the internet really intimidates anyone? Hey dude don't mess with me, I'm 300lbs of solid muscle and a super computer hacker, I'll track you down in real life!  HAHAHA, what a fucking dipshit.

[Kitsunexus]

I AM MEGAMAN! I WILL CRUSH ALL OPPOSITION! PH33R T3H L337NESS!

[spenoza]

Hah! I'm 30 and slightly overweight! And I won't beat yer ass, even in real life, because I'm largely a pacifist! So there!

And like was said earlier, the PCE stores scores in system RAM, not hucard RAM, and when the power cycles on the system that RAM gets flushed.

Either something's broken or you're failing to get the code right. There is no other practical explanation. You can post rants in here and try and get into pissing contests with people, but really, you can't be all that wonderful a person if you've managed to get everyone in the thread so far annoyed at you. Some of these people are pretty level headed and tolerant (no, Kitsunexus, I would never accuse you of being level headed so don't worry ) so the problem here is definitely more you than us.

So take a time-out, cool down, and sit out a couple days before coming back and trying that last post again.

[Tatsujin]

but now it's gettin' more and more silly.

[Odonadon]

Okay guys, seriously, it's threads that turn into crap like this that make people stop participating in the forums in the first place.  I've seen this happen a few times here, and I would hope the mods, whoever they are, do a better job of keeping this from happening.  This is exactly what will discourage new people from joining the scene, and that's exactly what the Turbo scene doesn't need.

As an unbiased observer, I think the question could have been answered quickly and simply, without alienating him - this really should have ended with nat's and necromancer's original posts.

Sorry if I come off with a "mightier than thou" tone, but this needs to be said.

OD

[nat]

My very first post in this thread (which was the first reply in the thread, period) was succinct, to the point, and addressed all aspects of his issue. You're right, this thread could have ended right there. Instead, he chose to reject this explanation and went so far as to blame Necromancer for insulting him. In my next attempt I tried to go into a little more detail and explain the situation a little more clearly. At this point he accused me of insulting his intelligence and went on rambling like a looney about what he's like in "real life" or something.

He did a good job of bringing all that followed down on himself, really.

[Tatsujin]

yes. i'm always good for a healthy hint of sarcasm, that's also what a forum needs and from what it lives in the end. but sometimes it drifts in a wrong direction and in this example, rasterfarian was all the cause for.

[Kitsunexus]

As an unbiasedinformed observer

Fixed.

You see, in the words of Billy Joel, we didn't start the fire. There was only helpful advice given, and he just lets loose with this 13-year old shitstorm flame to something that wasn't even true.

As I've learned, if you start something, you better be damn well prepared to finish it. He wasn't, he's gone, end of story.

In other news: WHY DO YOU HAVE TO CHEAT AT FUCKING SPLATTERHOUSE!? That is all.

[PCEngineHell]

Okay guys, seriously, it's threads that turn into crap like this that make people stop participating in the forums in the first place.  I've seen this happen a few times here, and I would hope the mods, whoever they are, do a better job of keeping this from happening.  This is exactly what will discourage new people from joining the scene, and that's exactly what the Turbo scene doesn't need.

As an unbiased observer, I think the question could have been answered quickly and simply, without alienating him - this really should have ended with nat's and necromancer's original posts.

Sorry if I come off with a "mightier than thou" tone, but this needs to be said.

OD

Sometimes certain people just should be sent home packing.They cant hack it around here due to the burden of bearing a bloated internet ego. Its natural selection on these forums at times,ask Validus...oops.forgot, you cant,he had to go too

[Kitsunexus]

this really should have ended with nat's and necromancer's original posts.

Wait wait wait, I just now read this. So because I asked for clarification on something Necromancer said, now I'M THE BADGUY? Just where the fuck do you get off? You hardly ever post, I don't even fucking know you, and now I'M THE FUCKING BADGUY when I didn't even say a damn thing in that post that would be offensive to the OP.

Really man, fuck you. I hope none of your loved ones ever contract cancer or AIDS, because it would be a disgrace to those diseases.

EDIT: And thank you for runing my weekend even more than it was just ruined 2 hours ago.

[_Paul]

this really should have ended with nat's and necromancer's original posts.

Wait wait wait, I just now read this. So because I asked for clarification on something Necromancer said, now I'M THE BADGUY? Just where the fuck do you get off? You hardly ever post, I don't even fucking know you, and now I'M THE FUCKING BADGUY when I didn't even say a damn thing in that post that would be offensive to the OP.

Really man, fuck you. I hope none of your loved ones ever contract cancer or AIDS, because it would be a disgrace to those diseases.

EDIT: And thank you for runing my weekend even more than it was just ruined 2 hours ago.

He didn't say that, you've put 2+2 together and got 5 there I think.

However, in reply to OD, the OP alienated himself by taking offense at some innocuous banter and getting everyone's backs up. Not the way to ingratiate yourself to a community as a newcomer.

[_Paul]

Oh the cheat index page, I thought you meant a specific cheat page, my mistake. Well the site is being redone anyway so that problem will go away.


And thank you for explaining your position so clearly, I'm sure everyone can make their own judgements from your last post.

[elnino]

I'm so going to put this place in my blog as an example of yet another forum full of the same retards that mess up most other forums - I got a whole list of them where the same freakshows as your kind are at.

Please, don't do this, you're going way too far now! The people here didn't think about the consequences when they posted and I'm sure they'd have responded differently knowing you'd go so far as posting this forum on a blog.

[SignOfZeta]

Wow. Usually these kind of melt downs occur between greedy capitalistic eBay jerks and PCE neo-levelers who are communist in no other way outside of TG-16 game values for some reason. Its fucking insane that an argument like this could result from a stupid cheat code.

People are still doing that "you don't know me in real life!" thing? Also amazing. If you're an ass on the internet, its pretty likely that you are an ass in real life, you probably just have less guts there.

Rasterfarian...is your name a pun, a misspelling, or the most ironic thing I've heard all week?

[OldRover]

Oh sheesh, chill the FUCK OUT EVERYBODY. This kind of bullshit is completely unnecessary.

[rasterfarian]

It speaks for itself does this thread.

I just responded in a normal way to being ridiculed; I even pointed out that if I had been the way some here have been to me in reply then I'd have known I was acting like a cunt - so you should too.

Don't try to insult me further by pretending that you don't get that, cause I know that you know better. It's always the same with digs - if you respond to it as any normal person would, then you get this response that either claims you need to chill out or that you have no right to be taking anyone up for what they said. Well it doesn't work that way.

You always get people in the dumber sections of society that think they can apply their little gang or club rules to others, as if anyone is interested in being part of it. I tend to find the 'you're not allowed to react normally if you're insulted etc' to be at best an offshoot of that.

And to re-iterate, you don't know me do you - so what's the issue with that? It's a fact. I do talk to idiots the same way in real offline life. I'm not the one living a lie. They know they can't reveal what they're really about so they only have their anonymous cowards to work through, instead of say - where or who they would prefer to do any talking out of; and as said, there's all kinds of ways of getting to them. But the point is that none of that should have anything to do with any forums at all, especially forums about things like videogames.

I also find it curious how a console as old as the PCE manages to attract that kind of no-education still-in-school-chatting-on-a-textphone ned mentality. What happened, were some of you sucked forward or backwards in time through a Polybius cab.

Anyway I have better things to do than have my energy drained with pointless exchanges.