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PSP Bomberman has gone gold - budget price!

Started by Kitsunexus, 01/11/2008, 08:20 PM

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Keranu

30 bucks sure is budget for a portable game. :P
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: Keranu on 01/12/2008, 03:07 AM30 bucks sure is budget for a portable game. :P
Compared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.
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SignOfZeta

So the shittiest handheld is also the most expensive to own...and the shittiest console, the PS3, is the same way.

Its like the 3DO never left us!

Maybe the horrible financial state of both of these systems is an indication that maybe people don't want to drop every last fucking cent on games. maybe.

Maybe.
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/12/2008, 05:22 AMSo the shittiest handheld is also the most expensive to own...
If you owned a PSP, you'd know firsthand how shit it isn't, but until you do, shut your mouth. If I get flamed for criticizing a console without owning it, so should you. And on the slight technicality that you DO own a PSP, hmmm, I dunno, uhh BUY BETTER GAMES, PERHAPS!? The PSP hardware is awesome, it's completely your choice of software that determines the experience.
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SignOfZeta

QuoteThe PSP hardware is awesome, it's completely your choice of software that determines the experience.
The idea that I'd have to own a system before I know how good it is is silly. I have several friends with PSPs and they all just sit there never being used. I play their PSPs more than they do. Sometimes a good game comes out, they buy it, play the PSP for a while, then do back to the DS or GBA and play at least 5 games before another appealing PSP game hits the shelves.

There is no doubt that the hardware is awesome, especially the screen which I *love*, that's the reason it costs so fucking much. When looking at a "system" though the hardware is just part of the equation, the games being 9/10 the "identity" of a system. For example, the Famicom was truly a piece of crap hardware-wise, but most people would say it was the greatest system of all time because of the software. The PSP is basically the anti-Famicom.
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Keranu

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 01/12/2008, 05:10 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/12/2008, 03:07 AM30 bucks sure is budget for a portable game. :P
Compared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.
My point exactly. I think it's crazy that a portable game cost that much these days (same with 360 and PS3 games averagely costing $60).
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SignOfZeta

QuoteMy point exactly. I think it's crazy that a portable game cost that much these days (same with 360 and PS3 games averagely costing $60).
Well most PCE games cost $60-80 back in the day, US releases were usually $40-50, and that was as long as 20 years ago when you get could a VW Golf GTI for $13,000, gas was $0.75 a gallon, milk was $1.25, etc.

Adjusted for inflation games are far cheaper than they ever have been. Pac Man on 2600 was $50 when a meal at McDonalds was $1.50. Super Famicom and early Japanese N64 games were routinely well over $100, even US releases were pricey. Chrono Trigger was $82.99 at EB, and Gretzky hockey for  N64 was $80 without backup RAM forcing you to buy a memory card. Luckily I had a memory card because it came "free" with Wonder Project J2...which cost me $114!

The money doesn't matter to me, really, its the time. If I'm going to spend 45 hours on a Super Robot Wars game it doesn't matter if W on DS is $50 and MX on PSP is $60. What matters is that MX is a port of an old PS2 game, and W is an original title, and much more suitable for portable play.

I mean, just to clear a SRW game on PSP you'll have to recharge your battery 15 times at least, and that's by the 3 hour estimate discussed in another thread, which is better than anything I've seen in the real world. With a PSP you are pretty much chained to a power cord. It might as well be a PCE LT. For that matter you might as well be chained to a TV and be playing Bomberman Land 2 on Cube since the PSP version looks to be not as cool, and the Cube version can be had for $15.
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nat

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 01/12/2008, 02:30 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/12/2008, 05:22 AMSo the shittiest handheld is also the most expensive to own...
If you owned a PSP, you'd know firsthand how shit it isn't, but until you do, shut your mouth. If I get flamed for criticizing a console without owning it, so should you. And on the slight technicality that you DO own a PSP, hmmm, I dunno, uhh BUY BETTER GAMES, PERHAPS!? The PSP hardware is awesome, it's completely your choice of software that determines the experience.
Zeta is right. My feelings on the PSP pretty much parallel his. I love the design of the unit. The screen is awesome. But that's where the good stuff ends. I like the look of the Pippin too, but let's face it, it's next to useless. While the PSP is a little more useful than a Pippin, the DS (DS lite especially) is a far better handheld and has a far better library.

I suppose that's why there have been close to 70 million DS units sold worldwide and only 30 PSPs.
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Kitsunexus

Well I like all my games, I mostly have puzzle games, fighters and classics collections. So to me, PSP is worth it.
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MissaFX

Quote from: KitsunexusCompared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.
I have never, ever paid more than 30 dollars for any new PSP game.  One of my local stores always will carry any new game at 30 dollars or less.  Most I buy for 20-10 dollars.  I don't know who is paying 50 for a PSP game, I cannot think of one with this high a retail.  Some are 40 dollars new, at high priced stores.  If I cannot find it locally (like JPN games) play asia often will have what I need for 20 dollars as well.
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: Missa on 01/13/2008, 03:21 AM
Quote from: KitsunexusCompared to $40-$50 for a PSP game it sure is. BTW, the article states that the Wii and DS versions will be $29.99 too.
I have never, ever paid more than 30 dollars for any new PSP game.  One of my local stores always will carry any new game at 30 dollars or less.  Most I buy for 20-10 dollars.  I don't know who is paying 50 for a PSP game, I cannot think of one with this high a retail.  Some are 40 dollars new, at high priced stores.  If I cannot find it locally (like JPN games) play asia often will have what I need for 20 dollars as well. 
I got a lot of mine brand new from Amazon, and some old rare ones from third-party dealers. The game is $40, but shipping takes it up to $50. >_<
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GUTS

The highest retail price for PSP games now is $40, with budget ones clocking in at $20 to $30, if you're paying more than that then you're getting hosed.  DS games retail for $30-$40.  Not exactly a huge difference in price there.

Steveroni

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 01/11/2008, 08:20 PMhttp://psp.ign.com/articles/843/843553p1.html

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You can pick it up for $29.99! ^____^
What is the difference between this and the Bomberman game already out for PSP?

Ceti Alpha

QuoteWell most PCE games cost $60-80 back in the day, US releases were usually $40-50, and that was as long as 20 years ago when you get could a VW Golf GTI for $13,000, gas was $0.75 a gallon, milk was $1.25, etc.
Man, TG 16 new releases were expensive here in Canada, or at least Nova Scotia. Getting a TG 16 game, or a Genesis and SNES game for that matter, was a not a cheap transaction. For a new release you could be looking at $70-90 dollars.  :shock: But it was the late 80s/early 90s and our dollar was shite and our debt was huge. Then we kicked out the Conservatives and the Liberals came in and straightened our shit out. hmmm...sounds familiar. lol

Anyway, needless to say I didn't buy too many games for the TG 16....I didn't have that many pennies.  :P Though, near the end of TGs run the games got significantly cheaper. Even when the Duo came out it seemed as if the prices in games dropped to those $40-50 dollar ranges.
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: Steveroni on 02/06/2008, 05:44 AMWhat is the difference between this and the Bomberman game already out for PSP?
This is more of a 3D world/platformer/minigame collection, I believe the other is straight up Bomberman old-school style (Which I have not found yet, outside of Amazon).
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Steveroni

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 02/06/2008, 02:48 PM
Quote from: Steveroni on 02/06/2008, 05:44 AMWhat is the difference between this and the Bomberman game already out for PSP?
This is more of a 3D world/platformer/minigame collection, I believe the other is straight up Bomberman old-school style (Which I have not found yet, outside of Amazon).
That's pretty much it.  One player mode is apparently going from world to world, battling to clear stuff.  I read that you can unlock "classic" Bomberman, though I haven't done that yet.  I got it for $15.00 at Sears and have really only used it to play multi-player with my nephew in FFA and Team modes.  I suppose I should read the manual and really give the one player game a shot.

Seldane

Quote from: Seldane on 04/21/2007, 07:28 PMDVDs are for suckers. Illegally pirated and stolen videos all the way. No menus. No "DO NOT PIRATE THIS!" screens. No fuss. Only perfection. I honestly only pirate movies because that "don't pirate this" screen annoys me. :wink:
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Kitsunexus

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Seldane

Yeah, I know, that's what makes it so beautiful. I would've paid money to not get that box.
Quote from: Seldane on 04/21/2007, 07:28 PMDVDs are for suckers. Illegally pirated and stolen videos all the way. No menus. No "DO NOT PIRATE THIS!" screens. No fuss. Only perfection. I honestly only pirate movies because that "don't pirate this" screen annoys me. :wink:
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Keranu

Quote from: Seldane on 02/11/2008, 10:54 AMYeah, I know, that's what makes it so beautiful. I would've paid money to not get that box.
So you are a Virtual Console whore inside afterall!  :mrgreen:
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Seldane

Quote from: Keranu on 02/12/2008, 03:15 AM
Quote from: Seldane on 02/11/2008, 10:54 AMYeah, I know, that's what makes it so beautiful. I would've paid money to not get that box.
So you are a Virtual Console whore inside afterall!  :mrgreen:
Naw, more like a Virtual Computer whore. I use the computer. To download stuff.


For free.
Quote from: Seldane on 04/21/2007, 07:28 PMDVDs are for suckers. Illegally pirated and stolen videos all the way. No menus. No "DO NOT PIRATE THIS!" screens. No fuss. Only perfection. I honestly only pirate movies because that "don't pirate this" screen annoys me. :wink:
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JoshTurboTrollX

And this is why I stay 2 years or more behind the video game scene.

I just got a 360 for $170.00 with 20G HD.   Picked up a bunch of games for mega cheap too-  ASF 2K8, Perfect Dark Zero, Phantasy Star universe, Enchanted Arms, and Kameo for less than $10 each.  And their all pretty awesome!

Just got on XBL and having a good time with it so far!!
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guyjin

The 360 is awesome. Definitely pick up Dead Rising for it. Any game where you get to smack zombies while wearing a servbot head is required by law to be awesome.  8)

Ceti Alpha

QuoteThe 360 is awesome. Definitely pick up Dead Rising for it. Any game where you get to smack zombies while wearing a servbot head is required by law to be awesome.  Cool
Yeah, I'll definitely be getting a 360 once it is hackable.
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nat

Screw the 360. I'm going for a PS3 with it's Bluray capabilities.
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Ceti Alpha

QuoteScrew the 360. I'm going for a PS3 with it's Bluray capabilities.
Fair enough, but the PS3 just doesn't have the games to attract me, but more importantly the xbox media center is sweet. It will be even better on the 360 once all the hacks are finally done. I'll just end up buying a separate Blu Ray player eventually.
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nat

Well, neither the PS3 or the 360 has games that attract me that I can't already get on the Wii.  :P

So I might as well get a PS3, since it's already got a Bluray player built-in, and I get the added bonus of being able to play games sometime down the road when some are released that actually interest me.
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gekioh

Im with ya on this Kits. I love the PSP. I have a ton of games for it and I like just about all of them.

Ceti Alpha

QuoteWell, neither the PS3 or the 360 has games that attract me that I can't already get on the Wii.  Razz
lolmax!!  :P The Wii is fine little machine. I will definitely be getting a Wii before the 360. How does the youtube search work on the Wii? I have the Xbox (Xbmc Live) youtube script set up now and it works pretty good. Sometimes you have be really specific on what you're searching in order to get what you were actually looking for. But generally it's pretty accurate. Oh, and only a small selection of my favourites on my youtube account show up. No idea what that is. In any case it's fun to lie down on the couch and watch some TG/PCE clips/reviews on the TV.  :mrgreen:
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nat

YouTube on the Wii works perfectly, it's one of the only reasons to use the Wii to connect to the Internet actually.
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Kitsunexus

Youtube also works perfectly with Apple.TV as well, and those can be hacked to run emulators that use YOUR OWN ROMS.
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Ceti Alpha

OK, so I need to get a Wii and a Dreamcast now. lol  #-o
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Kitsunexus

Why do people want to watch Youtube on TV? TV does not help it's situation at ALL.
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Ceti Alpha

QuoteWhy do people want to watch Youtube on TV? TV does not help it's situation at ALL.
What do you mean?
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Seldane

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 03/03/2008, 02:09 PMWhy do people want to watch Youtube on TV? TV does not help it's situation at ALL.
Win.
Quote from: Seldane on 04/21/2007, 07:28 PMDVDs are for suckers. Illegally pirated and stolen videos all the way. No menus. No "DO NOT PIRATE THIS!" screens. No fuss. Only perfection. I honestly only pirate movies because that "don't pirate this" screen annoys me. :wink:
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Keranu

Watching YouTube on Wii is so nice because you can lay on your couch and easily browse videos with the Wiimote and since TVs are usually larger than monitors. You haters need to try watching YouTube that way before you make a decision because it's truly a super comfortable experience.
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Ceti Alpha

QuoteWatching YouTube on Wii is so nice because you can lay on your couch and easily browse videos with the Wiimote and since TVs are usually larger than monitors. You haters need to try watching YouTube that way before you make a decision because it's truly a super comfortable experience.
Keranu FTW.
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Seldane

Quote from: Keranu on 03/03/2008, 11:06 PMWatching YouTube on Wii is so nice because you can lay on your couch and easily browse videos with the Wiimote and since TVs are usually larger than monitors. You haters need to try watching YouTube that way before you make a decision because it's truly a super comfortable experience.
Fail. Get some air.

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Quote from: Seldane on 04/21/2007, 07:28 PMDVDs are for suckers. Illegally pirated and stolen videos all the way. No menus. No "DO NOT PIRATE THIS!" screens. No fuss. Only perfection. I honestly only pirate movies because that "don't pirate this" screen annoys me. :wink:
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NecroPhile

.....he said while sitting in front of a computer.  :D
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Ceti Alpha

QuoteFail. Get some air.
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haha. So that's what heaven looks like.
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Seldane

Quote from: Seldane on 04/21/2007, 07:28 PMDVDs are for suckers. Illegally pirated and stolen videos all the way. No menus. No "DO NOT PIRATE THIS!" screens. No fuss. Only perfection. I honestly only pirate movies because that "don't pirate this" screen annoys me. :wink:
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Indeed, it's AV time. Check out: IMG! Sir, the door was open.

Keranu

Oh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
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nat

I bet Seldane looks just like the guy in that picture.
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Seldane

Quote from: Keranu on 03/04/2008, 05:50 PMOh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
Is that how you use the computer? :P
Quote from: Seldane on 04/21/2007, 07:28 PMDVDs are for suckers. Illegally pirated and stolen videos all the way. No menus. No "DO NOT PIRATE THIS!" screens. No fuss. Only perfection. I honestly only pirate movies because that "don't pirate this" screen annoys me. :wink:
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Indeed, it's AV time. Check out: IMG! Sir, the door was open.

Keranu

Quote from: Seldane on 03/04/2008, 09:05 PM
Quote from: Keranu on 03/04/2008, 05:50 PMOh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
Is that how you use the computer? :P
What nerd doesn't?
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: Seldane on 03/04/2008, 09:05 PM
Quote from: Keranu on 03/04/2008, 05:50 PMOh yes because hunching your back and glueing your eyes two inches in front of a computer monitor is not nerdy enough ;) . Get a life.
Is that how you use the computer? :P
It's almost how I use my home PC, I have a crappy chair.
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