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Sensei

Hey guys.  Sorry for a spam-like first post on these forums but I couldn't find an introduction thread.

Anyway, I live in Japan and have an online retro game store.   We mostly sell Famicom, Famicom Disk system and Neo Geo games but we are take and fill special orders.  Recently we have been getting TONS of requests for PC-FX games.  Maybe more than any other system.

So now we are thinking of expanding our shop to have a PC-FX section.  We have a few games up now but we need some help.

We need to know what games are popular outside of Japan.  Most of our requests come for the really expensive games like Zenki FX, Zeroiger, Tokemeki Card Paradise, Chip Chan Kick, etc. But we would like to know what more common games are popular.

Also what are fair prices to sell PC-FX games for?  We usually buy games from a number of suppliers and add a few dollars (for us) but we noticed PC-FX games are often fairly expensive.  We are not sure if me can make a profit on them.

Anyway thanks in advance for any help.  It seems like there are some good people on this forum and I hope to become an active member.

MissaFX

Hello,
Your English seems really good :mrgreen:

The PC-FX sure is one of the more quirky systems out there, and it is also poorly understood.  Because of this, prices tend to vary wildly, however I am fairly sure that the insane people trying to sell Team Innocent for $50 rarely, if ever do.  Just before this weekend I picked up Deep Blue Fleet for 10 dollars, new in package.

I am using this webpage to break the games down: https://www.pcengine-fx.com/PC-FX/html/pc-fx_world_-_game_overviews.html

In general FX games sold in the last year of the system's life tend to sell for more and will break general rules.

Simulation/Dating game: $8-$20
Adventure Games: $15-$25
Anime Freak 1-4: $10-$15
RPGS: $20-$35
Battle Heat: $10-15
Table Games: vary wildly, some cheap, some expensive
Action: again, $20-25 for Fire Woman, but CCK is easly worth $150, lots of variation

While people may be asking you about the rare expensive titles, I think a lot of people spend years shopping around to find them cheap in the end.  The bulk of your sales if you keep your prices reasonable will be in the budget titles which people buy to finish off their collection or to simply have more titles to play.  If you keep one copy of the rares ones in stock though, as long as you have a reasonable price or you allow buyers to negociate with you, you should eventually sell.
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Neo-Geo games you say?  Any MVS carts?   :P Also welcome!

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nectarsis

Welcome :)

Missa seems pretty dead on price wise.
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T2KFreeker

Quote from: Sensei on 08/03/2008, 08:02 AMHey guys.  Sorry for a spam-like first post on these forums but I couldn't find an introduction thread.

Anyway, I live in Japan and have an online retro game store.   We mostly sell Famicom, Famicom Disk system and Neo Geo games but we are take and fill special orders.  Recently we have been getting TONS of requests for PC-FX games.  Maybe more than any other system.

So now we are thinking of expanding our shop to have a PC-FX section.  We have a few games up now but we need some help.

We need to know what games are popular outside of Japan.  Most of our requests come for the really expensive games like Zenki FX, Zeroiger, Tokemeki Card Paradise, Chip Chan Kick, etc. But we would like to know what more common games are popular.

Also what are fair prices to sell PC-FX games for?  We usually buy games from a number of suppliers and add a few dollars (for us) but we noticed PC-FX games are often fairly expensive.  We are not sure if me can make a profit on them.

Anyway thanks in advance for any help.  It seems like there are some good people on this forum and I hope to become an active member.
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Sensei

Quote from: MissaFX on 08/03/2008, 12:28 PMHello,
Your English seems really good :mrgreen:

The PC-FX sure is one of the more quirky systems out there, and it is also poorly understood.  Because of this, prices tend to vary wildly, however I am fairly sure that the insane people trying to sell Team Innocent for $50 rarely, if ever do.  Just before this weekend I picked up Deep Blue Fleet for 10 dollars, new in package.

I am using this webpage to break the games down: https://www.pcengine-fx.com/PC-FX/html/pc-fx_world_-_game_overviews.html

In general FX games sold in the last year of the system's life tend to sell for more and will break general rules.

Simulation/Dating game: $8-$20
Adventure Games: $15-$25
Anime Freak 1-4: $10-$15
RPGS: $20-$35
Battle Heat: $10-15
Table Games: vary wildly, some cheap, some expensive
Action: again, $20-25 for Fire Woman, but CCK is easly worth $150, lots of variation

While people may be asking you about the rare expensive titles, I think a lot of people spend years shopping around to find them cheap in the end.  The bulk of your sales if you keep your prices reasonable will be in the budget titles which people buy to finish off their collection or to simply have more titles to play.  If you keep one copy of the rares ones in stock though, as long as you have a reasonable price or you allow buyers to negociate with you, you should eventually sell.
This is why I should have done a longer self introduction.  I am actually not Japanese.  I am from the United States but I have been living in Japan for over 4 years and plan to stay here.

Anyway, thank you for your help.  I adjusted the prices of the PC-FX games on my site and ordered a few more titles. 

As for the prices, I don't know if I can make them that cheap.  I thought my prices were good because I was charging significantly less than ebay/yahoo auctions.  I usually take the price I paid for a game and add 5-15% (my profit).  But some of the games you used as examples I can't get that cheap.  For example, the lowest price I can get a copy of Fire Woman (from a wholesaler) is higher than your suggested sell price.  I fear my prices will be seen as too expensive.  I am selling the games as cheap as I can but if they are still too high, maybe I will just not stock certain titles.

For example, do these prices seem reasonable/fair or are they going to be laughed at for being too high?

Galaxy Fraulein Yuna FX - $27.00
Team Innocent - $19.00
First Kiss Monogatari  - $49.00
Tengai Makyo Karakuri - $47.00
Chip Chan Kick 109.00
Tokimeki Card Paradise $105.00
Boundary Gate - $29.00
Tenchi-muyo Ryououki FX -  $29.00
Fire Woman Matoi-gumi -  $39.00
Cutey Honey FX -  $89.00
Can Can Bunny Extra DX - $29.00
Battle Heat - $11.00
Angelique Special - $9.00

If they are too high, I am unfortunately not in the position to lower them by more than a couple of dollars.   I will probably just remove the listings from my site.

Again, thank you for your help.  I will have to do a lot of thinking to see if I want to jump into the PC-FX market further.

But regardless I plan to keep hanging out on this forum.  The people seem very nice and amazingly knowledgeable.  More than being a seller of games I am a player of games.  And my DUO-R gets a lot of love from me.  I look forward to becoming a member of this NEC console community.

atr3yu

If you have any Marty stuff like consoles you have my attention as I have around 15 PC-FX games and pretty much all I know about that are good but I am always looking for a great importer. BTW what is your website??

SuperDeadite

Those prices look reasonable.  Actually your price for Tokimeki Card Paradise is actually quite cheap.  Its unquestionably the rarest normal release FX game.  Though it doesn't have the damand that Zenki, CCC, and Zeroigar have though.
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Sensei

Quote from: atr3yu on 08/03/2008, 09:04 PMIf you have any Marty stuff like consoles you have my attention as I have around 15 PC-FX games and pretty much all I know about that are good but I am always looking for a great importer. BTW what is your website??
The site itself does not currently stock Marty stuff, but we have done a few special orders in the past.  Is it ok for me to post the website address here?  I really don't want to come off as a spammer.

nectarsis

It should be fine.  Someone will take a chance on a new member sale wise I'm sure :)
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Sensei

Ok, the site address is:

www.risingstuff.com

I would be really happy if you could leave me feedback about the site in general or the PC-FX section specifically.

Thank you all so much.

T2KFreeker

Quote from: Sensei on 08/03/2008, 10:26 PMOk, the site address is:

www.risingstuff.com

I would be really happy if you could leave me feedback about the site in general or the PC-FX section specifically.

Thank you all so much.
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atr3yu

Wish I would have known you wanted one as I just sold one with three games for $100 shipped!!!

MissaFX

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Galaxy Fraulein Yuna FX - $27.00  - Barely high, I would lower it to 25 dollars if you can
Team Innocent - $19.00 - Anywhere from 10-20 dollars is a fine for this one
First Kiss Monogatari  - $49.00 - If you really hunt for this title (because I have) you can find it this price new, but you can also find it used for more.  It is one of the later titles if not the last if memory serves me and more rare than many titles.  So this should sell at this price given time.
Tengai Makyo Karakuri - $47.00 - a fair price, should sell easly
Chip Chan Kick 109.00 - a good price, should sell easly
Tokimeki Card Paradise $105.00 - a good price, should sell easly
Boundary Gate - $29.00 - Right on the high end for it (but not unreasonable).  You can get it for 25 dollars if you hunt ebay for a few months or less.
Tenchi-muyo Ryououki FX -  $29.00 - seems fine
Fire Woman Matoi-gumi -  $39.00 - this one can be obtained used for 20-25 dollars on ebay with a little hunting.  I might have paid 18 myself?  It has been a while since I purchased it.
Cutey Honey FX -  $89.00 - Another really, really variable title.  Sometimes people sell it for 30 dollars, sometimes 50, sometimes 80, sometimes 100.  I think maybe people impulse buy this one without hunting for it is all I can figure.  It may or may not sell at that price, hard to say.
Can Can Bunny Extra DX - $29.00 - I think I paid 20 for it used, but I have not hunted around for the price on this one too much, I bought it with some other games just to flesh out my collection when I was already buying some other games from the same seller.
Battle Heat - $11.00 - a fair price, should sell easly
Angelique Special - $9.00 - a fair price, should sell easly

I just checked out your site too and the budget titles you have there which you did not list here are also a fair price.
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Quote from: atr3yu on 08/03/2008, 11:16 PMWish I would have known you wanted one as I just sold one with three games for $100 shipped!!!
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Quote from: MissaFX on 08/03/2008, 11:34 PMGalaxy Fraulein Yuna FX - $27.00  - Barely high, I would lower it to 25 dollars if you can
Team Innocent - $19.00 - Anywhere from 10-20 dollars is a fine for this one
First Kiss Monogatari  - $49.00 - If you really hunt for this title (because I have) you can find it this price new, but you can also find it used for more.  It is one of the later titles if not the last if memory serves me and more rare than many titles.  So this should sell at this price given time.
Tengai Makyo Karakuri - $47.00 - a fair price, should sell easly
Chip Chan Kick 109.00 - a good price, should sell easly
Tokimeki Card Paradise $105.00 - a good price, should sell easly
Boundary Gate - $29.00 - Right on the high end for it (but not unreasonable).  You can get it for 25 dollars if you hunt ebay for a few months or less.
Tenchi-muyo Ryououki FX -  $29.00 - seems fine
Fire Woman Matoi-gumi -  $39.00 - this one can be obtained used for 20-25 dollars on ebay with a little hunting.  I might have paid 18 myself?  It has been a while since I purchased it.
Cutey Honey FX -  $89.00 - Another really, really variable title.  Sometimes people sell it for 30 dollars, sometimes 50, sometimes 80, sometimes 100.  I think maybe people impulse buy this one without hunting for it is all I can figure.  It may or may not sell at that price, hard to say.
Can Can Bunny Extra DX - $29.00 - I think I paid 20 for it used, but I have not hunted around for the price on this one too much, I bought it with some other games just to flesh out my collection when I was already buying some other games from the same seller.
Battle Heat - $11.00 - a fair price, should sell easly
Angelique Special - $9.00 - a fair price, should sell easly

I just checked out your site too and the budget titles you have there which you did not list here are also a fair price.
Thank you so much!  That really, really helps.

NecroPhile

Welcome aboard.  You're PC-FX prices are mostly reasonable, so you shouldn't have a hard time peddling 'em to the ebay haters (a.k.a. - everyone) and anyone that would rather spend a couple extra dollars to play now rather than bargain hunt for months.  The only thing that might hurt you is shipping, but that's beyond your control and not so bad when buying multiple titles.
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Sensei

Quote from: guest on 08/04/2008, 10:16 AMWelcome aboard.  You're PC-FX prices are mostly reasonable, so you shouldn't have a hard time peddling 'em to the ebay haters (a.k.a. - everyone) and anyone that would rather spend a couple extra dollars to play now rather than bargain hunt for months.  The only thing that might hurt you is shipping, but that's beyond your control and not so bad when buying multiple titles.
Thanks so much for your comments.  Our shipping prices are not too bad actually. I jewel case game ships (airmail) anywhere for $5.  The "big box" games cost $7.  But buying several games of course drops the price even more.  We don't make any money off shipping.

Soviet Conscript

I got excited when i saw the MSX in your title banner thing upon going to the page but didn't see any msx games or systems on the site  :cry:

some nice stuff at decent prices. if i wasn't already spending a ton of cash on imports from a few ppl i would of made some purchases
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Sensei

Quote from: Soviet Conscript on 08/05/2008, 02:32 AMI got excited when i saw the MSX in your title banner thing upon going to the page but didn't see any msx games or systems on the site  :cry:

some nice stuff at decent prices. if i wasn't already spending a ton of cash on imports from a few ppl i would of made some purchases
We have a Panasonic MSX and about 7 games in store right now, but we want to get more before we add an MSX section to the site.  It's a work in progress.

Soviet Conscript

Quote from: Sensei on 08/08/2008, 07:05 AM
Quote from: Soviet Conscript on 08/05/2008, 02:32 AMI got excited when i saw the MSX in your title banner thing upon going to the page but didn't see any msx games or systems on the site  :cry:

some nice stuff at decent prices. if i wasn't already spending a ton of cash on imports from a few ppl i would of made some purchases
We have a Panasonic MSX and about 7 games in store right now, but we want to get more before we add an MSX section to the site.  It's a work in progress.
awsome, i acually sent your site an email yesterday with a question on the special order process. i'm looking for an MSX2 so i'll keep an eye on your site.
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Sensei

Quote from: Soviet Conscript on 08/08/2008, 07:43 PM
awsome, i acually sent your site an email yesterday with a question on the special order process. i'm looking for an MSX2 so i'll keep an eye on your site.[/quote]
We are looking for a boxed one at a reasonable price right now.

But as a general answer to everyone, here is how the special order process works:

1. Make a request through the site (or through a PM to me if you wish)
2. We will then search for the item for you.  We work with 5 different wholesalers and several actual stores.  From these we will take a best price, add a few dollars (for our costs) and then quote you a price.
3. If the price seems reasonable to you, we will make a special order page for your item(s) and send you a link to it.  You can pay from there.
4. It takes between 4-7 days for us to get the item (less if we can get it locally).
5. We test every item to make sure it works and is in good condition before we send it out.

The items you see listed on our site (not special order) are mostly in stock right now and will ship out right away.  (There are a few expensive items listed that we don't keep on hand, but we can get them quickly)

And as always, if you have any questions just ask.

nat

Hi there (and welcome), I'm a few days late on this, but your prices are pretty much on target. SOme are a little lower, some a little higher than fair market value but you definitely have the idea and if your list is anything to judge by, I'd go to you in a heartbeat over, say, eBay.
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geepee16

hi there,
   most of the prices seem good but i think the following would have to come down a little bit to be in the fair range imo:

cutey honey is hard to find at times because there are a few clowns on yahoo auction who bought up quite a few of them and sell them for a lot of money but, i have seen it going for $60 when it pops up in stores

team innocent can go fairly for $16 i think

tenchi muyo can go fairly for $20+

yuna can go fairly for $18-$22

other games really fluctuate.  you should concentrate on the cheap games that have been a little harder to find such as:

super power league fx
blue chicago blues
return to zork
  as these are highly playable for non-japanese speakers, are relatively cheap, were full releases, two of them are pc engine sequels and - for whatever reason, not in great circulation right now.  team innocent and battle heat are must-owns and the most well-known games for the console.  they are also among the most common.  i have sold lots of them over the years while shopping for friends and have never had to look far to get buy them for $9-$12.  the occasional store will sell them for too much (e.g. akihabara's newest store is retro game and they were selling T.I. for like $40 today which is a RIIIIIIIIIIIIIP off imo).

you should also focus on the ceap JRPGs like:

blue breaker
lunatic dawn
last imperial prince
  which you can sell fairly (and find easily!) for $20+.  well, blue breaker should never go too far above $15 really as it is very common.

  if you're thinking of going the FX route and need to keep it cheap for all involved, these games are the best way to go for a start. good luck!

Sensei

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Thank you so much for your comments.  Thank you for taking so much time to write a thorough post.  It gave me a lot to think about.  I am going to try to respond to some of the main points now.

Quote from: geepee16 on 08/10/2008, 12:17 PMhi there,
  most of the prices seem good but i think the following would have to come down a little bit to be in the fair range imo:

cutey honey is hard to find at times because there are a few clowns on yahoo auction who bought up quite a few of them and sell them for a lot of money but, i have seen it going for $60 when it pops up in stores

team innocent can go fairly for $16 i think

tenchi muyo can go fairly for $20+

yuna can go fairly for $18-$22
Yeah, from time to time I see these games in stores at low prices and if I was running this store as a hobby I would be picking them up and listing them here.  Unfortunately since this is a business I cannot depend on the inventory of local gameshops (or places like Yahoo auctions for that matter).  We can often have 20+ orders coming in a day and it would be impossible to be constantly visiting stops to fill all of them.  We did that in the early days and right now we have bought everything worth buying at all the game stores in the city and neighboring cities.

We rely on Japanese wholesalers and resellers.  About 3 times a week we place large orders to several different places to restock our inventory.  Most of these places don't carry PC-FX at all.  From the ones that do, we choose the lowest prices.

Cutie Honey is a good example.  We can't get it for $60 (stores can because they buy it from people for $20).  On a shopping trip I might see a copy for, say, $50.  I could sell that one copy for $60 and still make a profit but I would have to be constantly adjusting the prices on each individual item.  It is, sadly, not a feasible solution.

We have to sell for the prices we know we can consistently buy the items for.  And that sucks for us too because we know some of these things are overpriced (as I said in my first post).  The only options we really have are to delist the product and not deal with it or keep it on at its high price.  We can't run all over town every time we sell something and we can't sell items at a loss.

We do however work as hard as we can to keep our prices lower than places like eBay and other online stores.

Quoteother games really fluctuate.  you should concentrate on the cheap games that have been a little harder to find such as:

super power league fx
blue chicago blues
return to zork
 as these are highly playable for non-japanese speakers, are relatively cheap, were full releases, two of them are pc engine sequels and - for whatever reason, not in great circulation right now.
Are Return to Zork and Blue Chicago Blues highly playable for non-Japanese speakers?  I know they were both originally American games, but I was led to believe that the PC-FX versions are entirely re-dubbed in Japanese with Japanese menus.

But yeah, we actually have both of those games on order right now.

Quoteteam innocent and battle heat are must-owns and the most well-known games for the console.  they are also among the most common.  i have sold lots of them over the years while shopping for friends and have never had to look far to get buy them for $9-$12.  the occasional store will sell them for too much (e.g. akihabara's newest store is retro game and they were selling T.I. for like $40 today which is a RIIIIIIIIIIIIIP off imo).
Yeah, we get Battle heat fairly cheap and sell it for $11.  We used to sell it for $9 but the distributor who had it at that low price sold all their copies (probably to us)

Team Innocent is an enigma to me.  It should be the most common and cheapest title on the system but it doesn't seem to be the case.  Our cheapest distributor charges $16 for it, plus shipping of course, (One wholesaler wants $33 a copy for it!) and the local retro stores are charging like $25 a copy for it.  I KNOW if should be cheaper than that.  We don't really make a profit on this game at this time.  The only reason we offer it on our store at all is that it is a popular game and it would be weird if we didn't have it. 

Quoteyou should also focus on the ceap JRPGs like:

blue breaker
lunatic dawn
last imperial prince
 which you can sell fairly (and find easily!) for $20+.  well, blue breaker should never go too far above $15 really as it is very common.
Yup, we have most of those on order.

Quoteif you're thinking of going the FX route and need to keep it cheap for all involved, these games are the best way to go for a start. good luck!

Again thank you so much for your comments.  I have read a lot of your posts and I know you are helping the PC-FX community a lot by finding those common titles for people and selling them pretty much at cost to the fans.  I hope I can turn my store into a good place for people to buy games as well.  With the help of people like you and all the other supportive comments I have received here I just might be able to.  Thank you everyone.

MissaFX

Return to Zork at least has the origional menus from the DOS/win95 version.  The graphics are unaltered, so the warning sighs and such are in English (which I find kinda funny for those Japanese players after I have played so many American localized games with Kanji signs).  The speah is in Japanese.  The FMV looks worse than many games because the PC version was at like 180Xsomething lines (or maybe slightly worse than that) and this FMV was generated on a computer that poorly.  The company who made the FX game though did get a hold of copys of the master tapes of the real life people and the king, which they re-rendered for the FX.  It seems kinda silly at times when they mix the two sources over each other, but wow is it nice they took the time to render all that live acting footage for the FX.
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Quote from: MissaFX on 08/11/2008, 01:49 AMReturn to Zork at least has the origional menus from the DOS/win95 version.  The graphics are unaltered, so the warning sighs and such are in English (which I find kinda funny for those Japanese players after I have played so many American localized games with Kanji signs).  The speah is in Japanese.  The FMV looks worse than many games because the PC version was at like 180Xsomething lines (or maybe slightly worse than that) and this FMV was generated on a computer that poorly.  The company who made the FX game though did get a hold of copys of the master tapes of the real life people and the king, which they re-rendered for the FX.  It seems kinda silly at times when they mix the two sources over each other, but wow is it nice they took the time to render all that live acting footage for the FX.
I'm guessing it's the same for Blue Chicago Blues.  A shame.

Still if people are interested in those games, I would be more than happy to stock them.

MissaFX

A good number of people here are just getting into the FX so if you can get FX-BMPs at a reasonable price (the FX memory card) I am sure that there are people here and elsewhere who need one.  Once you start massing the RPGs and Simulation games you really need that extra save space.  Some games like Dragon Knight 4 take up I think 14k of the 32k of internal save ram.
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Sensei

Quote from: MissaFX on 08/13/2008, 10:41 PMA good number of people here are just getting into the FX so if you can get FX-BMPs at a reasonable price (the FX memory card) I am sure that there are people here and elsewhere who need one.  Once you start massing the RPGs and Simulation games you really need that extra save space.  Some games like Dragon Knight 4 take up I think 14k of the 32k of internal save ram.
What is considered a good price on those.  I see them from time to time for around $35 (give or take) but that seems high to pay for a memory card.  (then again that's what the neo-geo AES ones run)

nat

I bought one on eBay a year or two ago for $9 from a Hong Kong seller. It was complete in box. It was the first one that came up when I did a search, and I just bought it. I never shopped for one before or since, but that's my 2 cents.
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nectarsis

They don't seem to pop up on Ebay often.  The average I've seen points to around your $35 give or take price.
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Sensei

Quote from: nectarsis on 08/13/2008, 11:58 PMThey don't seem to pop up on Ebay often.  The average I've seen points to around your $35 give or take price.
Well if that's the price they go for, I could certainly stock them at my store for around that price.

Oh and if anyone was wondering we are doing some revamps to the store right now and all the products are displaying as "out of stock", it should be working again in a few hours.  I'm adding a PC-Engine HuCard section and redoing the front page.

MissaFX

Quote from: Sensei on 08/14/2008, 12:02 AM
Quote from: nectarsis on 08/13/2008, 11:58 PMThey don't seem to pop up on Ebay often.  The average I've seen points to around your $35 give or take price.
Well if that's the price they go for, I could certainly stock them at my store for around that price.

Oh and if anyone was wondering we are doing some revamps to the store right now and all the products are displaying as "out of stock", it should be working again in a few hours.  I'm adding a PC-Engine HuCard section and redoing the front page.
If they are loose they go from anywhere from 10-30 dollars, boxed and complete 40 isn't unreasonable.  Anything over 40 though starts getting into nuttyville.  At 35-40 dollars boxed you should not have too much problem selling them.  The nice thing about the PC-FX though is that you only need 1 memory card unless you like having backups of important save games.  So at least when you drop down 30-40 for a memory card you don't have to buy a stack of them.
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geepee16

the FX BMP should never really go for more than $30 unless someone is impatient.  for your store though and given the nature of the FX market and its limited options, you could comfortably sell them for $35.  they would probably sell slowly at that price as $15-$25 is the normal price for one either boxed or not.  hey, slow is okay: first rule of economics is it's better to make a slow dime than a fast nickel.  telegames, ncsx and occasionally tzd followed that policy and did very well with it. i estimate that at $35, you could sell 10-20 units in the first year at a profit of $15 per unit.  at $25, you could probably sell over 25 units; way more if you get buyers buying other software to justify the shipping.

Sensei

Quote from: geepee16 on 08/14/2008, 10:42 AMthe FX BMP should never really go for more than $30 unless someone is impatient.  for your store though and given the nature of the FX market and its limited options, you could comfortably sell them for $35.  they would probably sell slowly at that price as $15-$25 is the normal price for one either boxed or not.  hey, slow is okay: first rule of economics is it's better to make a slow dime than a fast nickel.  telegames, ncsx and occasionally tzd followed that policy and did very well with it. i estimate that at $35, you could sell 10-20 units in the first year at a profit of $15 per unit.  at $25, you could probably sell over 25 units; way more if you get buyers buying other software to justify the shipping.
Yeah, shipping a CD game and a memory card is the same price as the memory card alone.  I will see what I can do about getting some in store.

As for other PC-FX stuff..  What about things like extra controllers or the mouse?  How much do those usually go for?  I don't usually sell accessories  but if there is a demand I could stock them.  Same with the PC boards I guess...

MissaFX

There are already some places to get cheap controllers and mice, however it wouldn't hurt to stock one of each, you never know when someone might want to add it to their order to save on shipping.  There are a lot less places the get the FX-BMP though.  I agree with GeePee that at 35-40 dollars (for a FX-BMP) you will sell probably 10ish a year.  If you can find a source for them cheap, loose that would probably be ideal as I know many people will just plug it into their FX and never use the box again.
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Sensei

Quote from: MissaFX on 08/14/2008, 10:27 PMThere are already some places to get cheap controllers and mice, however it wouldn't hurt to stock one of each, you never know when someone might want to add it to their order to save on shipping.  There are a lot less places the get the FX-BMP though.  I agree with GeePee that at 35-40 dollars (for a FX-BMP) you will sell probably 10ish a year.  If you can find a source for them cheap, loose that would probably be ideal as I know many people will just plug it into their FX and never use the box again.
Ok, I will look for cheap loose ones.

(wow, if someone didn't know I was talking about FX-BMP that would sound really bad.)

Thanks for all your help guys.  I ask a question and like 10 minutes later it's answered.

geepee16

if you need any help, i will be in tokyo for a few more days and in japan for a little over two weeks. 

by boards, do you mean the PCFXGA?  recently, a couple of cases must have been found because they have suddenly become common at $20-$25 a pop.  however, they are the pcFX98 versions.  i woule love to see you carrying those with an NECPC98 to use it on because the DOS boards are tougher to come by and the pc98 is hard to emulate for a pc clown such as myself.

extra controllers can be sold fairly for $20.  there is a store that sometimes sells them for less. i think they are called gdx or something like that.  i can find them for you if you would like.

Sensei

Quote from: geepee16 on 08/15/2008, 08:49 AMif you need any help, i will be in tokyo for a few more days and in japan for a little over two weeks. 

by boards, do you mean the PCFXGA?  recently, a couple of cases must have been found because they have suddenly become common at $20-$25 a pop.  however, they are the pcFX98 versions.  i woule love to see you carrying those with an NECPC98 to use it on because the DOS boards are tougher to come by and the pc98 is hard to emulate for a pc clown such as myself.

extra controllers can be sold fairly for $20.  there is a store that sometimes sells them for less. i think they are called gdx or something like that.  i can find them for you if you would like.
Oh, you are only in Japan for a little bit longer?  I guess I though you were here long term like me.  That's too bad I was going to ask if we could meet up at Tokyo Game Show.  Hmm.. pc98s.. I wonder if I could get them.  Let me check, and if I can I might ask you to pick up those boards for me.

Windancer

I Just bought Batman case and manual 15.00 and a complete version of street fighter for 7.00 I didnt think those prices were bad at all. Cant wait to get them thanks Sensei.

Sensei

Quote from: Windancer on 08/19/2008, 03:20 AMI Just bought Batman case and manual 15.00 and a complete version of street fighter for 7.00 I didnt think those prices were bad at all. Cant wait to get them thanks Sensei.
Thank you Windancer.  We try as hard as we can to keep our prices reasonable.  But right now our PC-Engine selection is rather poor (like 20 titles).  After I finish filling the PC-FX section I will get to work on getting some more PC-Engine games.  (maybe start another suggestion thread like this one).

Speaking of getting new games, I just added 10 more games to the PC-FX section of my site.  We now have about two thirds of all the normal titles released for the system.

I was only planning to have a small selection at first but since joining this forum and talking to people here I kind of caught PC-FX/PC-Engine fever.  I don't think of that as a bad thing.  You guys and gals have all been great.  Thank you.

nat

You need to get a copy of Shanghai: The Great Wall and Ruruli Ra Runrunrowrowyourboat for PC-FX. Those are my two personal holy grails. A friend and I don't actually believe these titles exist since they have never appeared for sale at any point online or elsewhere within the last 10 years. If you were to get a copy of each of these in stock, not only would I buy them right away, but consider you a god among men since clearly only an act of god will ever bring either of these games out of the woodwork.
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MissaFX

Quote from: nat on 08/21/2008, 11:30 AMYou need to get a copy of Shanghai: The Great Wall and Ruruli Ra Runrunrowrowyourboat for PC-FX. Those are my two personal holy grails. A friend and I don't actually believe these titles exist since they have never appeared for sale at any point online or elsewhere within the last 10 years. If you were to get a copy of each of these in stock, not only would I buy them right away, but consider you a god among men since clearly only an act of god will ever bring either of these games out of the woodwork.
I just ordered RRR for about 60 bucks,  Now Shanghai on the other hand, I myself have never, ever seen for sale either.  The 3DO version is only worth 20 bucks if you just want the game, but I figure you are talking about FX completion.  Actually told Sensei last night some other people might want to buy RRR from here also, talk to him today and maybe he can order you one nat.  Everytime a set of all 64 games goes up for sale, I wonder where they get some of the card games for the system.
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Sensei

Quote from: nat on 08/21/2008, 11:30 AMYou need to get a copy of Shanghai: The Great Wall and Ruruli Ra Runrunrowrowyourboat for PC-FX. Those are my two personal holy grails. A friend and I don't actually believe these titles exist since they have never appeared for sale at any point online or elsewhere within the last 10 years. If you were to get a copy of each of these in stock, not only would I buy them right away, but consider you a god among men since clearly only an act of god will ever bring either of these games out of the woodwork.
Yeah I just got a RuRiRuWhatever for Missa and I could get Shanghi if you need it.  I never stocked it because it is so much more expensive than other shanghi titles (ususlly around $50) and dosn't really offer anything the 3DO or Saturn version don't.  I'll get it eventually (my goal is to have every PC-FX game available).

Mednafen

There's a pricey one on Yahoo! Japan auctions: http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b85772254
I also saw one a week or so ago, but I don't know if it's the same one.

Windancer

Sensei, dont forget secret Santa commin up. Get your 10 to 20 dollars game out there for us so we cn buy our friend somethin cool. I really want dragon egg and goes for a 15 bucks so it will be on my list, :)

Sensei

Ok, I added a few more games and lowered a couple of prices. 

http://www.risingstuff.com/video-games-pcfx-c-2_188.html

Let me know what you guys think  :D

Also before anyone asks, I know the price of Nirgends seems way too high, but my wholesalers tell me that it is "人気上昇中" (In the midst of a popularity rise).  So it has become really expensive all over.  Does anyone have an idea or why that might be?  Was a sequel announced?  Or an anime or something?


Anyway, as always I am grateful for you help and suggestions.  You have all been awesome.

MissaFX

Quote from: Sensei on 08/25/2008, 02:29 AMAlso before anyone asks, I know the price of Nirgends seems way too high, but my wholesalers tell me that it is "人気上昇中" (In the midst of a popularity rise).  So it has become really expensive all over.  Does anyone have an idea or why that might be?  Was a sequel announced?  Or an anime or something?

Anyway, as always I am grateful for you help and suggestions.  You have all been awesome.
I have no idea why they would be charging you so much for Nirgends or Fire Woman, or Team Innocent.  But for whatever reason the wholesalers are charging more.  Nirgends is a different game (for the FX lineup), but that doesn't mean it is a great game by any means.  Fire Woman on the other hand and Team Innocent are good games.  Team Innocent would be a lot more money if it was't one of the release games they printed gosh like a million of.
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