PAL TurboGrafx peripheral compatibility

DragonmasterDan · 02/28/2012, 07:37 AM

I know the PAL TurboGrafx uses TG16 not PCE/Duo controllers. But does anyone know if it's compatible with the Turbo Booster, Turbo Booster Plus or CD-ROM?

Damon Plus · 02/28/2012, 08:56 AM

Well, it wouldn't make sense to be compatible with the Turbo Booster, as it includes RCA just out of the box. TB Plus and CD-Rom, I'd like to know, specially the later.

DragonmasterDan · 02/28/2012, 09:41 AM

Quote from: Damon Plus on 02/28/2012, 08:56 AMWell, it wouldn't make sense to be compatible with the Turbo Booster, as it includes RCA just out of the box. TB Plus and CD-Rom, I'd like to know, specially the later.

I'm curious if the TurboBooster would effect the video output, perhaps from PAL to NTSC. It remains a question mark for me as well.

Frank_fjs · 02/28/2012, 09:55 AM

I doubt that the TurboBooster is going to be performing any video conversions. It just passes through the existing video signal does it not?

Mishran · 02/28/2012, 11:14 AM

I have a PAL Turbo (for the hell of it) and a Turbo CD, but I'm not sure if I wanna chance hooking them together. Would be bad if it damaged either or both.

DragonmasterDan · 02/28/2012, 11:45 AM

Quote from: Mishran on 02/28/2012, 11:14 AMI have a PAL Turbo (for the hell of it) and a Turbo CD, but I'm not sure if I wanna chance hooking them together. Would be bad if it damaged either or both.

Good point, this makes me curious of both the risks, and if anyone has tried it before.

thesteve · 02/28/2012, 12:12 PM

PAL is not a different unit.
its a mod

all accessorys should connect fine.
even with the booster it likely will still be PAL

DragonmasterDan · 02/28/2012, 12:37 PM

Quote from: thesteve on 02/28/2012, 12:12 PMPAL is not a different unit.
its a mod

all accessorys should connect fine.
even with the booster it likely will still be PAL

In looking through the pictures I have of the inside of the PAL unit it does have different components (and casing).

http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=1306.0

I've heard the regular US power supply will power it on though, so perhaps it's not that different at all.

CrackTiger · 02/28/2012, 12:40 PM

I posted a video on here of the PAL TG running the Turbo CD. It was easier for me to test the TG hooked to the Turbo CD than digging out the unique hookups. The TG pinouts are the same and the Booster works too, but the TG still runs slow and CD games with CD will be out of sync.

Mishran · 02/28/2012, 12:40 PM

DC requirements of the systems would be unchanged I would assume. The AC requirements would be the only thing that would change between the two since the power setups are different between US and Europe.

DragonmasterDan · 02/28/2012, 12:44 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/28/2012, 12:40 PMI posted a video on here of the PAL TG running the Turbo CD. It was easier for me to test the TG hooked to the Turbo CD than digging out the unique hookups. The TG pinouts are the same and the Booster works too, but the TG still runs slow and CD games with CD will be out of sync.

Any chance you still have a link to that video?

kiketonto · 02/29/2012, 02:40 AM

I am in treatment for a tennokoe to install it on my PAL to see if I get it!

CrackTiger · 08/18/2012, 02:14 PM

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 02/28/2012, 12:44 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 02/28/2012, 12:40 PMI posted a video on here of the PAL TG running the Turbo CD. It was easier for me to test the TG hooked to the Turbo CD than digging out the unique hookups. The TG pinouts are the same and the Booster works too, but the TG still runs slow and CD games with CD will be out of sync.
Any chance you still have a link to that video?

I found that video today.

https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/video/palaeroblasters1.avi

DragonmasterDan · 08/21/2012, 02:47 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/18/2012, 02:14 PM
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 02/28/2012, 12:44 PM
Quote from: guest on 02/28/2012, 12:40 PMI posted a video on here of the PAL TG running the Turbo CD. It was easier for me to test the TG hooked to the Turbo CD than digging out the unique hookups. The TG pinouts are the same and the Booster works too, but the TG still runs slow and CD games with CD will be out of sync.
Any chance you still have a link to that video?
I found that video today.

https://superpcenginegrafx.net/video/palaeroblasters1.avi

What kind of display did you output it to?

CrackTiger · 08/21/2012, 04:16 PM

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 08/21/2012, 02:47 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 08/18/2012, 02:14 PM
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 02/28/2012, 12:44 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 02/28/2012, 12:40 PMI posted a video on here of the PAL TG running the Turbo CD. It was easier for me to test the TG hooked to the Turbo CD than digging out the unique hookups. The TG pinouts are the same and the Booster works too, but the TG still runs slow and CD games with CD will be out of sync.
Any chance you still have a link to that video?
I found that video today.

https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/video/palaeroblasters1.avi
What kind of display did you output it to?

That video was shot of a 1080p lcd that supports PAL and runs 240p games smoothly. I also tested it with my 480p projector which also runs PAL at correct speeds. My capture card won't let me record straight PAL video. It supports it, but the first time I ran it I had to choose NTSC or PAL only.

DragonmasterDan · 08/21/2012, 05:24 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/21/2012, 04:16 PMThat video was shot of a 1080p lcd that supports PAL and runs 240p games smoothly. I also tested it with my 480p projector which also runs PAL at correct speeds. My capture card won't let me record straight PAL video. It supports it, but the first time I ran it I had to choose NTSC or PAL only.

And it worked straight through the US Turbo CD dock to the monitor that supports PAL?

CrackTiger · 08/21/2012, 09:32 PM

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 08/21/2012, 05:24 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 08/21/2012, 04:16 PMThat video was shot of a 1080p lcd that supports PAL and runs 240p games smoothly. I also tested it with my 480p projector which also runs PAL at correct speeds. My capture card won't let me record straight PAL video. It supports it, but the first time I ran it I had to choose NTSC or PAL only.
And it worked straight through the US Turbo CD dock to the monitor that supports PAL?

Yeah, I believe that I posted a photo at the time, but have no idea where it is now.

Basically the PAL TurboGrafx is the exact same for hookups as the TurboGrafx-16, except that in place of the RF switch port, you have a CoreGrafx/Duo style AV port... which is physically different (pins) that those other consoles. But since the EXT port is the exact same as a TG-16, you can hook everything that the TG-16 can take.

So instead of unpacking all the hookups and possibly to avoid power outlet problems, I just stuck it into my Turbo-CD IFU and used that for power and audio/video.

I also have a PAL Mega Drive that I have tested PAL-target-developed and non-PAL-target-developed games on using my PAL compatible projector. So I know that the projector runs things consistently between the different versions of games and how people in various countries reported them running. Since my lcd TV ran PAL TurboGrafx stuff the exact same as my projector, I believe that it's safe to assume that the speed of everything was fairly accurate with how a PAL TurboGrafx would run hooked to a PAL crt TV.

I was working on a feature covering everything about the PAL TurboGrafx and took photos of absolutely everything and did side by side shots of the TG and TG-16. I posted some of the pics in threads here in the past, but don't have time right now to dig them out.

esteban · 08/22/2012, 11:18 AM

Quote from: guest on 08/21/2012, 09:32 PMI was working on a feature covering everything about the PAL TurboGrafx and took photos of absolutely everything and did side by side shots of the TG and TG-16. I posted some of the pics in threads here in the past, but don't have time right now to dig them out.

Kindly dig that up, finish it, and publish it

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