Hip Hop Song Made From Legendary Axe

Sinistron · 11/21/2007, 02:42 PM

Or should I say part of a hip-hop song- part one of a four part 7 and 1/2 minute underground hip-hop track as told by the Seven Deadly Sins. I do vocals in it (1/2 of first verse and all of third) in case anyone is wondering. If you'd like to hear it then just click my name and then website- or just go to it from here- http://www.myspace.com/marvingardensprojectsatan -I promise I wouldn't waste your time with street garbage. I've been doing this for at least seven years and I'm quite good at it. In the past I've done adaptations of Edgar Allan Poe stories- actually The Cask of Amontillado (in three parts) is featured on my page as well.

Kudos to whoever can tell me what Legendary Axe stage the music is from without reading it on my bulletins and what-nots.

Yes I am a very different kind of geek.

Turbo D · 11/21/2007, 04:02 PM

very nice

NecroPhile · 11/21/2007, 04:36 PM

Not really my type o' tunes, but pretty cool nonetheless.

Quote from: Sinistron on 11/21/2007, 02:42 PMI've been doing this for at least seven years and I'm quite good at it.

Modesty's for suckers!

Turbo D · 11/21/2007, 04:38 PM

roflmao

ParanoiaDragon · 11/21/2007, 04:43 PM

Pretty cool, you can deffinitly can rhyme! I would've chosen a different song from LA(btw, I believe it's the final level). I know I would've done things differently, but, whatever inspires you to rhyme! I don't remember if I've made anything out of anything from either of the LA's before. As for me, I've been doing this for over 20 years, & I still haven't taken the time to really record any of my lyrics, & quite frankly, I just haven't had the time, but, our Dragon Arm game will be all underground hip hop(none of that nonsense heard on the radio) & pseudo drum n bass. And I'm planning on finally recording lyrics for once, for the ending credits. But, I've given up doing it professionally, even though I do/did have some connections(haven't spoken to them in a few years now), mainly Awol One & Jizzm. I do see Aceyalone & Ab Rude every so often, but, I'm not super close with them. For some strange reason, they always remember my name, I don't know if my facial features just stand out, or what, but, it's nice to be remembered. I used to talk to Panda One of Animal Pharm, who started up Goodvibe, but, it's been ages since I talked to him as well. Anyways, that's enough name dropping for now

I hope you are successful in whatever you want to accomplish with your music

Keranu · 11/22/2007, 01:07 AM

This song is so sick, awesome job! Sounds very professional too!

On a sidenote (with shameless self promotion), here is my written, crappy Toe Jam & Earl rappin' review.

ParanoiaDragon · 11/22/2007, 02:37 AM

K, as your buddy, here's some advice, you need to learn how to not rhyme on 4 measure's, if you know what I mean. Basically, you gotta learn how to rhyme, at different lengths of time(sometimes, you don't even haev to rhyme at all). From there, you make up your own style as you go. That's especially if you end up rhyming on the ending credits song for Dragon Arm

edit-An example, you might sometimes rhyme words, that are only 1 measure away from eachother, while other times, they'll be 8 measures or more. But what you have looks like a constant 4, not sure if I'm explaining it right though. Here's something you can try, to test yourself. Take a book or something, where, it's not meant to rhyme, nothing that has any poetry. Then, try to make it rhyme. Make the speed of how fast you are flowing vary, & find new ways to say words. Example, the book of Psalms, originally, in Hebrew, it rhymed, but, in other languages, it doesn't because of translation. However, you can as a lyricist, find a way for it to rhyme.

Keranu · 11/22/2007, 03:52 AM

Even though I don't know much about this stuff, that review was something I quickly wrote up just to get out. It was sort of just throwing together various lines that popped in my head while thinking of way how to review a game by rhyming it. I think I understand what you mean though about the measures and the inconsitency of my review irritates me.

Speaking of rhyming religious books, you gotta check out the Arabic Quran! Part of it's beauty is the way the words rhyme and flow, making it very easily to remember and lovely to pronounce.

Example:

rag-time4 · 11/22/2007, 04:44 AM

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 11/22/2007, 02:37 AMK, as your buddy, here's some advice, you need to learn how to not rhyme on 4 measure's, if you know what I mean. Basically, you gotta learn how to rhyme, at different lengths of time(sometimes, you don't even haev to rhyme at all). From there, you make up your own style as you go. That's especially if you end up rhyming on the ending credits song for Dragon Arm

edit-An example, you might sometimes rhyme words, that are only 1 measure away from eachother, while other times, they'll be 8 measures or more. But what you have looks like a constant 4, not sure if I'm explaining it right though. Here's something you can try, to test yourself. Take a book or something, where, it's not meant to rhyme, nothing that has any poetry. Then, try to make it rhyme. Make the speed of how fast you are flowing vary, & find new ways to say words. Example, the book of Psalms, originally, in Hebrew, it rhymed, but, in other languages, it doesn't because of translation. However, you can as a lyricist, find a way for it to rhyme.

That's very interesting! I didn't know that the Psalms rhymed in Hebrew. The Psalms were largely taken from pre-existing Egyptian heiroglyphs so that's very interesting that it rhymed when written in Hebrew.

kid_rondeau · 11/22/2007, 07:11 AM

Quote from: Sinistron on 11/21/2007, 02:42 PMKudos to whoever can tell me what Legendary Axe stage the music is from without reading it on my bulletins and what-nots.

Yes I am a very different kind of geek.

Yo G, that music be all from stizzage 5 n' shit. Peace out.

spenoza · 11/22/2007, 10:38 AM

Quote from: rag-time4 on 11/22/2007, 04:44 AMThat's very interesting! I didn't know that the Psalms rhymed in Hebrew. The Psalms were largely taken from pre-existing Egyptian heiroglyphs so that's very interesting that it rhymed when written in Hebrew.

A quick look at Wikipedia suggests that the Psalms came largely from Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and not from Egyptian hieroglyphs. Wikipedia is not always correct, but the article on Psalms is decently detailed. What source told you the psalms were from hieroglyphs?

GUTS · 11/22/2007, 01:42 PM

Maybe he's thinking of the song of solomon or something like, I know the Psalms definitely did not come from egyptian heiroglyphs.

Kitsunexus · 11/22/2007, 02:01 PM

Your mom's phone numbers came from Egyptian hieroglyphs.

Ceti Alpha · 11/22/2007, 02:09 PM

Nice LA sampling and rhyming Sinistron.

Let me know if you're ever want to do some shows in the Maritimes (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island). There's a big hip hop community here in Halifax and you'd have a big turn out.

Oh and Keranu. Don't listen to the haters. hehe. I liked your Toe Jam and Earl review.

Kitsunexus · 11/22/2007, 02:31 PM

Wow, this rules! Hella nice, Sinistron!

ParanoiaDragon · 11/22/2007, 03:34 PM

Quote from: Keranu on 11/22/2007, 03:52 AMEven though I don't know much about this stuff, that review was something I quickly wrote up just to get out. It was sort of just throwing together various lines that popped in my head while thinking of way how to review a game by rhyming it. I think I understand what you mean though about the measures and the inconsitency of my review irritates me.

Speaking of rhyming religious books, you gotta check out the Arabic Quran! Part of it's beauty is the way the words rhyme and flow, making it very easily to remember and lovely to pronounce. Example:

You know K, I'm not putting you down, I'm just giving you tips. I don't claim to be the "rap master PD", far from it! I have some skills, but, my main thing is music itself, as you know

Keranu · 11/22/2007, 03:47 PM

Oh I know, bud. I really appreciate the advice because it gives me new ways to look at things and improve, thanks! I also appreciated how you pointed out how the Psalms ryhmed in it's original language because it makes a lot of sense from an Islamic point of view!

Quote from: cetiOh and Keranu. Don't listen to the haters. hehe. I liked your Toe Jam and Earl review.

Aww, thanks! Really though, it's pretty unsmooth.

Sinistron · 11/22/2007, 04:54 PM

Thanks for digging it guys- or at least the ambition of using a turbo game in the track. It's only the first part- there's no chorus until the fourth part on a completely different beat.

Anyway I've messed around with some other turbo games to make beats with- I am eventually going to do something over the music from stage one of R-Type with the whole thing slowing down at the end for the boss fight- I've also made a beat out of the castle music in DEII and I also just straight looped the character select screen from bomberman 94.

I am an unusual case for rapping even though I've been doing it for so long- because I rarely listen to it. I'm more of an prog-rock kind of guy. To me the be-all end-all is King Crimson.

Anyway thanks again- and happy thanksgiving...

Ceti Alpha · 11/22/2007, 07:03 PM

QuoteTo me the be-all end-all is King Crimson.

Cool!! "In the Court of the Crimson King" is definitely my favourite album of theirs. It's actually one of my favourite albums of all time.

The Adrian Belew stuff is cool too, but it does get a little too nuts for me to listen to sometimes. hehe. I've recently downloaded some old King Crimson live videos. Mostly Belew stuff, but it's amazing to watch them play.

You also get to see Tony Levin go wild on the Chapman Stick. Those things are just crazy. There's actually a really good Chapman Stick player here in Halifax. My brother plays often with him in various bands.

Anyway, it's always cool to find King Crimson fans out there.

ParanoiaDragon · 11/23/2007, 01:51 AM

Ok, as long as you don't jack the beats I'm using

Which castle music are you talking about? The one that's used in regular castle's, like at the begining of the game, the one used for the water castle, or the one that's used in a castle much later in the game, where you fight inside(I forget all the names, even though I just played thru it not that long ago). I did a pretty basic song with that castle that you fight in(not the fortress, but a king's castle, that had been taken over).

Hmm, prog rock eh, do you like Dream Theater, Vinnie Moore, or Joe Satriani(if those are considered prog rock, that's what I've always called them). I love that stuff, mainly thanks to Ys & the Thunder games. I'll have to check out King Crimson. IIRC, there's a band called Stride....I think, that my friend let me here, they seem pretty cool, but I haven't sat down & really listened to them yet.

kid_rondeau · 11/23/2007, 09:31 AM

Dream Theater rocks my lame ass. I have a DT tattoo on my right arm, and I'm in the "Honor Roll" of the biography that's being released at the end of the month.

Kitsunexus · 11/23/2007, 02:42 PM

Screw Dream Theater and Jordan Rudess, it's all about Emerson and Wakeman for me. ^__^

rag-time4 · 11/24/2007, 04:10 AM

Quote from: guest on 11/22/2007, 10:38 AMA quick look at Wikipedia suggests that the Psalms came largely from Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and not from Egyptian hieroglyphs. Wikipedia is not always correct, but the article on Psalms is decently detailed. What source told you the psalms were from hieroglyphs?

It's been a while since I looked at this subject, maybe I've got the Psalms mixed up with the ten commandments.

http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/thera/egypt.html

Let me look into it and see what I find out in a few days.

rag-time4 · 11/24/2007, 04:28 AM

Quote from: guest on 11/22/2007, 10:38 AMA quick look at Wikipedia suggests that the Psalms came largely from Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and not from Egyptian hieroglyphs. Wikipedia is not always correct, but the article on Psalms is decently detailed. What source told you the psalms were from hieroglyphs?

I just took a quick look at the article titled "Psalms," and here's what it says about the authorship of Psalms: Jewish tradition maintains that the Psalms are the work of David (seventy-three Psalms are with David's name), basing himself on the writings of ten ancient psalmists (including Adam and Moses). Many modern scholars see them as the product of several authors or groups of authors, many unknown.

The above text is from the section titled "authorship and ascriptions"

Here is an interesting quote from the wikipedia article titled: "Islamic view of the bible": The Qur'an (Surah An-Nisa 4:163) states "and to David We gave the Psalms". Therefore, Islam confirms the Psalms as being inspired of God.

This text is taken from the section titled: Islamic view of the Book of Psalms.

spenoza · 11/25/2007, 05:42 PM

Either way, I suspect many of the Psalms were around for a long time, in one iteration or another, before they were actually written down. Who knows in what language they actually originated? Spoken tradition long post-dates writing.

spenoza · 11/25/2007, 05:43 PM

Wow, I never suspected there were so many prog fans here. Emerson's good (if egotistical), but I'll take Lake in any incarnation, ELP, KC, whatever.

Odonadon · 11/25/2007, 10:37 PM

I love the instrumentals, I just don't really like hip-hop in general, but it definitely sounds professionally done and on par with what I hear on the radio before I turn stations (that's a compliment)

. Any plans to make the instrumental version available?

OD

Kitsunexus · 11/27/2007, 04:49 AM

I don't have the time right now, but if somebody would put the Amen break to the main music of the Namco arcade game "Mappy" and put a big fat Moog bass behind it, you'd have the dopest beat ever to freestyle to...

ParanoiaDragon · 11/28/2007, 12:58 AM

"Amen" break? I'm not sure what that is, but, if you have it, or atleast let me know what it is, I could probably do that real quicklike.

Kitsunexus · 11/28/2007, 02:59 AM

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 11/28/2007, 12:58 AM"Amen" break? I'm not sure what that is, but, if you have it, or atleast let me know what it is, I could probably do that real quicklike.

Dude... wtf. I mean, man, a hip-hop producer who doesn't know the Amen break?

To be fair it's more popular in jungle and DNB (my favorite style of music ever), but it's a hip-hop standard as well.

Man, you best watch this:

ParanoiaDragon · 11/28/2007, 06:02 AM

I don't know the name of a single break. Anything I've done, I just do, I don't pay attention to names, dates, places, & things, I just do whatever I want, so, names speed by without a second thought. With that said, that beats in a million songs, & then some, so, ofcoarse I recognize it, now I know what it is

Sinistron · 11/28/2007, 01:44 PM

Dang. I had this big thing where I forgot my password and kept unsuccessfully trying to reset it. Kept telling me activation code was inactive or whatever. Finally got it reset correctly.

Anyway- a week later- to answer your question- It's the regular castle music. I put it a little uptempo and plan on doing a little rap over it. I'll let you guys know when it's finished.

More on Crimson- they are my all time favorite. I've seen them twice in NY, and I've seen Adrian Belew three times- amazing amazing amazing shows. Tony Levin is now back with Crimson and hopefully he breaks out some funk fingers again. Never really heard much of Dream Theatre- sorry. in the way of prog I do also like SOME Van Der Graaf Generator, some Gentle Giant.

I used to really like Hip-hop: Rakim, Slick Rick, EPMD. Most of today's is just garbage. I fully understand if someone isn't into it at all. BTW- that link no longer will get you to the song I did with Legendary Axe- but you can find it from there if you're willing.

As for an instrumental of it- it is only on my beat-to-shit zoom sampletrak and at the studio- if I have time at the studio and get a copy of just the beat I'll make sure to send it to you...

Ceti Alpha · 12/02/2007, 08:23 PM

Quoteused to really like Hip-hop: Rakim, Slick Rick, EPMD.

haha. Awesome!

EPMD was awesome. All those were awesome. I also liked De la Soul, Maestro Fresh Wes (Canadian), Public Enemy (I hear the new album is quite good.), and Boogie Down Productions (BDP)/KRS-One.

Today, the only hip hop I really listen to is from k-os, another Canadian. I cannot recommend his album "Joyful Rebellion" enough. I haven't picked up his latest album yet, but I hear it's really good.

Here's his site:

http://www.k-osmusic.com/home.asp

Sinistron · 12/03/2007, 09:40 AM

I will have to check that out- and all the othre oldschool cats you mentioned were also my other favorites.

Now the only hip-hop I really listen to is Wu-Tang, Kool Keith and some underground guys like Cage and Quel...
I love Wu because they create their own universe- as does Kool Keith.

yeah EPMD really was the shit. Erick Sermon had some of the best beats for sure. I see that they're doing another album.

kid_rondeau · 12/03/2007, 10:29 AM

Kool Keith is my favorite rapper ever!!

ParanoiaDragon · 12/04/2007, 12:38 AM

I like Kool Keith, & how random he gets, but, it seems like most of his stuff is too dirty for my tastes. If anything, you should check out Aceyalon's album A Book of Human Language. That album is so damn good, it's converted people that hate rap in general, to respect true hip hop. Anything from Aceyalone is dope, but, the main one is A Book of Human Language. Eligh is also really dope, pretty much anyone having anything to do with Project Blowed, absolutly rules.

Kitsunexus · 12/04/2007, 01:28 AM

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"Now that is some refreshing hip-hop!"

Ceti Alpha · 12/04/2007, 08:28 AM

QuoteKool Keith is my favorite rapper ever!!

Every time I read that post I keep thinking "Keith Courage".

Sinistron · 12/13/2007, 02:38 PM

you're probably the guy that just e-mailed me on myspace wondering where the track is- it's here now-
http://www.myspace.com/marvingardensprojectsatan
I'm gonna finish the track up Monday because there's a couple of weak finishing vocals in there. By the way if anyone wants a free copy of my last CD then just give me your address. It sounds a lot crazier than this stuff and includes an eight and a half minute three part adaptation of Poe's The Cask of Amontillado. I also made a point of not saying "yo" once on that disc and not to feature any other "vocalists". Even if you're not into hip-hop you may get something out of it.

BTW you're right- rap does suck now. Not that I feel reggaeton is any better (though Shabba and Cutty Ranks back in the day were the shit)- I certainly don't.

ParanoiaDragon · 12/13/2007, 09:03 PM

Could you maybe just upload it, so you don't have to spend money on sending out a cd to people who want to hear it

You could just upload it to File Factory or something like that.

Sinistron · 12/14/2007, 08:56 AM

oh I wouldn't be spending anything. My job would.

Plus I have 100 extra cds lying around.