Best Method to Backup Turbo Games?

[offsidewing]

I may start a new thread.  I've tried searching the forums to answer this question, but only found treachery.

What is the most efficient way of backing up original turbo CD/SCD games.  I want to make back ups of my collection so the kids can play those and don't ruin the originals.

In the immortal words of Leelo, Please help.

Thanks!

[nat]

offsidewing! Where the hell have you been?

Anyway, it was necessary for me to split this into a new topic.

As to your question-- can't you just do a direct Disc Copy using Nero or whatever you use? I've never tried it, but I would think it would work.

[MissaFX]

I stand firmly behind CDrwin and the bin+cue format.  The program is free too as long as you want to burn at your drives minimum spin, and you do, don't you?

[Tatsujin]

yeah..just keep on with poisoning your poor DUOs and CD-Roms to death

[TurboXray]

*If* you have a PC, you could use TurboRip. It's a great utility. Plus it rips in CUE/ISO/WAVE format which is the best format for patch translations with 

[Joe Redifer]

TurboRip is awesome.

Speaking of which I need to use that for my Ys 4 English translation.  I have the real game, but the translated version has audio made from crappy MP3s or OGGs or something lame like that.  I want the full uncompressed audio of the exact proper length.

[BigT]

The easiest ways are to use Alcohol 120%, CloneCD, or CDRwin.  All should work fine. Turbo discs don't have weird copy protection, so reading them with default settings should work fine.  You can create an image and then burn it/ play on the Duo or load it with Daemon Tools or Alcohol to play it on an emulator.

Turborip is a good program, but I don't think it supports burning.  It also has some problems with certain chipsets that don't get along with ASPI.

[SignOfZeta]

Image the CDs with Turborip them burn them with whatever program using the lowest speed you can. For some reason newer Windows machines have trouble reading PCE games without Turborip, but on Win 98, or OSX direct copies with whatever copy program you have work perfectly.

You might want to stock up on some HOP3s too since the jury is still out on whether or not CD-Rs wreck your hardware.

Honestly though I think just taking care of your CDs is the most practical method. I only play originals and all my discs, (many of which are from 17+ years ago) still play perfectly. Its not like CDs wear out or anything. Just don't be a Donkey Kong with the things.

[spenoza]

Regardless of which software you use to rip the contents of the CD, I would recommend the ISO+CUE format to store the data, with an uncompressed audio format like WAV accompanying, per Nat's recommendation. This way you can burn it back to disc using any damn program you want 

Further, pay top dollar for good discs. I know Taiyo Yuden media is supposed to be durable and high quality. I'm not sure how its reflectivity rates, though. I know there are more expensive "archival" CDRs that might also work well.

[rolins]

I stand firmly behind CDrwin and the bin+cue format.  The program is free too as long as you want to burn at your drives minimum spin, and you do, don't you?

I second CDRWin too for all backups and minimum speed limit ain't prob. If your burner is quite new your min speed will be like 4x. Still fast.

I had Alcohol 120% but I've stopped using it since it tends to move tracks out of sync by 2 secs.

[TurboXray]

I had Alcohol 120% but I've stopped using it since it tends to move tracks out of sync by 2 secs.

It shouldn't. I should burn the CUE configuration exactly or reject it. Nothing in between. Unless you're burning from MP3 rips - those suck and are almost alway out of sync.

[offsidewing]

offsidewing! Where the hell have you been?

I bought this thing called an "Xbox 360" in September.

Anyways, I backed up a ton of games circa 1998.  I put the game in my kick ass Pentium II Xeon, copied the game to the hard drive, burnt it back onto a lovely blank and brandless disc.  Viola, every game has worked perfectly since.  Now, I want to do that again and it seems that TurboRip will force me to finish my PhD in Mechanical Engineering if I want to use it.  Although, the DOS 6.22 look of it make me a little ho-nay.

Anyways, my precious kid free "Daddy's working" time at night has been invested in shooting the living daylights out of old hockey buddies in Call of Duty 4.  So, I don't want to be much more of a social hermit learning how to copy Turbo CD games all over again.

[offsidewing]

Honestly though I think just taking care of your CDs is the most practical method. I only play originals and all my discs, (many of which are from 17+ years ago) still play perfectly. Its not like CDs wear out or anything. Just don't be a Donkey Kong with the things.

Children are the most destructive force on earth.  Dad was right, you can't have anything (with out your kids breaking it)...

[rolins]

I had Alcohol 120% but I've stopped using it since it tends to move tracks out of sync by 2 secs.

It shouldn't. I should burn the CUE configuration exactly or reject it. Nothing in between. Unless you're burning from MP3 rips - those suck and are almost alway out of sync.

If you have a correct Cue sheet then, yeah, there should be a problem with Alcohol 120. It's only when you're making a backup image of an original disc that the tracks get out of sync. It been a year since I last used Alcohol 120, so I don't know if the problem was fixed.

[TurboXray]

I had Alcohol 120% but I've stopped using it since it tends to move tracks out of sync by 2 secs.

It shouldn't. I should burn the CUE configuration exactly or reject it. Nothing in between. Unless you're burning from MP3 rips - those suck and are almost alway out of sync.

If you have a correct Cue sheet then, yeah, there should be a problem with Alcohol 120. It's only when you're making a backup image of an original disc that the tracks get out of sync. It been a year since I last used Alcohol 120, so I don't know if the problem was fixed.

Ohh, I thought you meant burning them. Heh. Yeah, never used Alcohol to backup a disc yet, just CD mounting and the occasional burn.

[SignOfZeta]

Now, I want to do that again and it seems that TurboRip will force me to finish my PhD in Mechanical Engineering if I want to use it.

I'm a classic command line hater who considers this type of input to be a great big guy at the door who keeps out anyone who isn't a colossal nerd with a photographic memory but...TurboRip is extremely easy to use. It only has a very small list of commands, only one or two if which I ever actually used.

[MurderDate]

buy a pair of bookends

[offsidewing]

Now, I want to do that again and it seems that TurboRip will force me to finish my PhD in Mechanical Engineering if I want to use it.

I'm a classic command line hater who considers this type of input to be a great big guy at the door who keeps out anyone who isn't a colossal nerd with a photographic memory but...TurboRip is extremely easy to use. It only has a very small list of commands, only one or two if which I ever actually used.

c:\format

God do I miss formating hard drives at Radio Shack.

[offsidewing]

So, uh, I downloaded Turborip V1.00.  I've never seen a .rar file.  WTF do I do now?  I can't seem to find any instructions for this weapon...  How do I uncompress??

[nat]

Download "UNRAR"

A quick Google should turn up a link. I think WinZip might handle them too?

[BigT]

Winrar is a must... good overall archival utility.

7-zip is also great and would work.

RAR files are very common on nntp based usenet (newsgroups).

[spenoza]

7-zip is free and almost as good as WinRAR for basic compression operations, at the loss of a little interface friendliness. Also, Java programs are sometimes distributed in and can often run directly from JAR files.

[SignOfZeta]

So, uh, I downloaded Turborip V1.00.  I've never seen a .rar file.  WTF do I do now?  I can't seem to find any instructions for this weapon...  How do I uncompress??

Holly crap. Your pirating skills are weak sauce.