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Final fantasy 14 did so bad square enix did this

Started by geralds, 12/10/2010, 12:49 PM

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geralds

i never use spell checker lol.  Na its not dilibarately spellign bad just how i am.  There no winny pussies lol the game has some serious problems your ove rlookign them.  Iv been lookign up recent update if this continues it will just be ff11 with new story and world all over agan there rehashing the same mobs all over agan not even changing the way they look.  This game is no differnt from vangard tho  both games were rushed befor ready plain and simple.

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: geralds on 12/14/2010, 09:49 PMi never use spell checker lol.  Na its not dilibarately spellign bad just how i am. 
Might want to start man.

QuoteThere no winny pussies lol the game has some serious problems your ove rlookign them.  Iv been lookign up recent update if this continues it will just be ff11 with new story and world all over agan there rehashing the same mobs all over agan not even changing the way they look. 
Well, I'm pretty sure the following is whining:

"My mouse lags because my computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements"
"I don't like having to click these things in the menu to do this, make it easier, 3 clicks is too many"
"The market confuses me.  I'm too lazy to look at retainers, or visually confirm that the retainer is wearing things I may want to own"
"Theres no content.  All I did was grind to level 30 and now im bored.  Theres no content.  Nevermind the story quests, and other quests all over town.  Theres no content."
"Theres quests but I didn't do them, because theres no ! on the radar telling me where to go"
"I keep pressing the same button in combat, now im bored.  I ignored the other 8 abilities my character has.  Im bored.  Its your fault SquareEnix."
"Theres no content.  I didnt really look, but I know its not there because this game sucks"

Who cares if they're going to recycle bits of FF11.  more power to them.  Its not like the fantasy MMO isn't constantly recycled and reshaped in EVERY MMO.    Im glad they're recycling FF11.  FF11 was great.  It deserves to leave its legacy in the form of things in FF14 borrowing from it.

The people whining that FF14 is to easy/contentless, were the same people whining that FF11 was too hard and took too long to do stuff.

There is a game just for them.  its called World of Warcraft.  The hardest part of that game is installing it!

QuoteThis game is no differnt from vangard tho  both games were rushed befor ready plain and simple.
Because you were totally present at the launch of Vanguard, and have tons of experience with it, being a game you heard about for the first time, like, yesterday.

Stop saying they are the same thing, because they're not.  Not even close.


One is a mechanical disaster, and the other is full of things sissies dont like.
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geralds

One point tho agan what do you do at max level?  What do you get for being max level?  Tho quest can only do you so much tho.  How is fun repeating the same quest over and over.  Mouse lag wasnt people require ments tho it was the game and was adressed at games release.  Lag problems even square enix says theres lag problems.  Retainer system sucks you dont have to be lazy   some peopel can look all day but the system is broke.  Look all day and what do you get you find the item you have no other prices to compare to to see if it worth or you might not somethign after 5 to 10 hours of looking. 

My experiance with retainer system its not about being lazy i had no problem with it till i relized i was spending 5+ hours a day or droping everything for a week of looking for crap when id rather see an ah system for conveniance and so ill no withing 5 minutes if i will find what i want no look 5 hours thats retarted.   I dont no other people beef other then thee lazy  but i my problems with the system have nothing to do with being lazy.  When looking for weapon i dont find it all the bad but i when it comes to gear or synthing materials i find it a total shit place. Also what if a retain selling more then 1 weapon or type of gear they sure wont ware both. Another isue is you find what you want then some idiot prices it max gil for the hell of it thats retarted agan the system is just flawed atm.  For the time it takes to find what you want id rather just  play the game all gimped then waist my time  have 0 fun.

My friend who quite for wow he met the requirements the recomended and he still lagged.  Sure not as bad  as someone like me becouse i sure its my pc problems but still lagged none the less.

Well ya even people who like games like wow complain about ff11 menue system not being user friendly.

The content complain is they want so much content that over half of it just gets ignored.

The ff11 stuff wasnt relealy a complain i was just noting lack or originaly there but  as you said not a bad thing at all.

There is somethign vangard must have done better that 14 didnt reviews game is way better reviews at launch then 14.  I just find it odd that you say ff14 had a better launch yet vangard got  better reviews in the end anyway. When i say the same i meen there both just games the were rushed befor ready.

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: geralds on 12/15/2010, 12:03 PMOne point tho agan what do you do at max level?  What do you get for being max level?  Tho quest can only do you so much tho.  How is fun repeating the same quest over and over.  Mouse lag wasnt people require ments tho it was the game and was adressed at games release.  Lag problems even square enix says theres lag problems.  Retainer system sucks you dont have to be lazy   some peopel can look all day but the system is broke.  Look all day and what do you get you find the item you have no other prices to compare to to see if it worth or you might not somethign after 5 to 10 hours of looking. 
Story mode.  Faction quests, crafting!  Try it all out.  Go exploring.  Welcome to online adventure games.  Theres more to the game than LEVELGRIND LOL.

Retainer system works, look at Ultima Online.   Its got the best player-run economy in the MMO world today. 

People are just sissies and do it wrong on ff14. I can clear the battlecraft ward in like 30 minutes and get what I want.  Im used to the UO market.  This is the same frigging thing.  Everyone else is used to typing in an item and going MM I WANT THAT ONE.  God forbid you have to shop around or think before you commit to buying the thing.    Its Flea Market vs. Ebay.    One requires you to develop shrewd shopping abilities and the other requires you to have a pulse, and a clicky finger.

Also its THREE GODDAMN  MONTHS INTO THE GAME.  Give it a bit of time to let the market work itself out into something awesome.  It can't just happen immediately.  Not everyone knows EVERYTHING about prices.  Over time its going to work itself out just the same way UO did.   Rome wasn't built in a day.

QuoteMy experiance with retainer system its not about being lazy i had no problem with it till i relized i was spending 5+ hours a day or droping everything for a week of looking for crap when id rather see an ah system for conveniance and so ill no withing 5 minutes if i will find what i want no look 5 hours thats retarted.   I dont no other people beef other then thee lazy  but i my problems with the system have nothing to do with being lazy.  When looking for weapon i dont find it all the bad but i when it comes to gear or synthing materials i find it a total shit place. Also what if a retain selling more then 1 weapon or type of gear they sure wont ware both. Another isue is you find what you want then some idiot prices it max gil for the hell of it thats retarted agan the system is just flawed atm.  For the time it takes to find what you want id rather just  play the game all gimped then waist my time  have 0 fun.
If it takes you 5 hours to clear shopping, you are doing it wrong.   Seriously.  Also, you shouldn't need to shop constantly.  You're probably buying shit thats too high for your job and suffering from equipment scaling.  You need to shop like every 10-20 levels.

QuoteMy friend who quite for wow he met the requirements the recomended and he still lagged.  Sure not as bad  as someone like me becouse i sure its my pc problems but still lagged none the less.
I didnt lag.  Neither did any of my friends who had what the game said to have.   Fix your settings.  Update your direct x.   The lag square refers to is client to server lag. 

Mouse lag/interface lag/movement lag, is your machine sucking.

QuoteThere is somethign vangard must have done better that 14 didnt reviews game is way better reviews at launch then 14.  I just find it odd that you say ff14 had a better launch yet vangard got  better reviews in the end anyway. When i say the same i meen there both just games the were rushed befor ready.
Vanguards reviews at launch sucked.  Again, YOU WERENT THERE AT LAUNCH AND THAT WAS LIKE 3 YEARS AGO.  It was a terrible time.  Nothing says suck like running through a forest and falling through the ground.  Then your heads sticking out still so a monster comes and kills you.   AWESOME, right?

Heres what Vanguard did to get better

Step 1) Everyone on the Sigil team was fired by Sony
Step 2) Sony picked up the pieces.  Some people who didn't suck at Sigil got rehired.
Step 3) Sony fixed the game and salvaged what was left of it.

The reviews you see that are positive, are post-repair.  The team responsible for the game got canned like, way early in.  The game would have pummeled all who opposed had they had their shit together at Sigil.   The game had a TON of promise.  Beautiful environments, awesome classes, but the problems were too great and they didn't bother fixing them.   So, Vanguard fell in as being mediocre.

You can't compare the reviews of a game thats had like 3 years to fix itself, to a game thats been out 3 months.  Thats stupid.

Vanguard sucked bad at launch for more than just content reasons.   Legit bugs existed.  Total nightmare.

FF14's biggest problems are cranky wowtards not being happy with the content.  Meanwhile everyone with a brain is like "thats nice, im having fun.  Oh hey its free to play? Even better.  Hey, check out this story cutscene. OH MAN LETS RIDE THE BOAT"

Its legit. 
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geralds

Its not just wow tards saying it sucks but ill give that id say 95% more then likely are.  What my friend was more or less experiancing was the server lag more then likely still noting he lagged regardless. I myself thot the menue system was laggy while some people did complain it was  to complex. I just thot it was laggy and frustrating to deal with at launch. 


What if im one of them people i dont want to craft what if i did the story quest already what do i use my character for nothing you say factin leve quest what if i already did said quest 400 times. There is only so much to explore there what like 5 areas only in the game and more then likely you will explore them all trying to level your character up. What i am trying to get at is what do you do with your character after  you have story quest done witch are not hard as all and you hit max level without having to resort to leveling a nother job. Without having to repeate the same quest over and over not leveling any other job at launch becouse they are actualy adding more what could you realy do with a max level character.  Notting they are adding more content im mostly refuring to at launch with what they had.

I still dont get the retainer system iv tried ever last sugesting in the book yes i have gear higher or to low becouse finding stuff my right level pisses me off to know end.  Do noted tho i beleave i joined one of the lowest populated servers at launch.  I am starting to think if your having less isues then i am then my hole problem is the low server population on my server. 

I thot all the reviews i saw for vangard would just launch  reviews for the most part.  You are right tho i wasnt there at launch for vangard so im just going by what i research and read up on vangard.

Arkhan Asylum

I doubt you did all the quests and faction stuff, and if you did, I suggest you go outside and enjoy the real world some.


as for the retainers, Im sorry you dont get something as simple as *Click on NPC* *see if stuff you want is there, buy it*

Now if you'll excuse me, the new update added snow and other xmas decorations to town.

I am going to go get festive on my catwhore.
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geralds

No idea but its just makes a viable excuse  for some reson why peopel complained at launch. I got to experiance the hoel world at level 20 there wasnt much to exploor at all toom me 2 hours i exploored the hole game just not the content.  I dont play much becosue 1 i lag and 2 game shutdown to much on me.  I dont know why i shut downbut i can definaly say lag is my pcs fault there.  I ya im curuous to how the update improved the game.

Arkhan Asylum

Well considering level 20 isn't the max level.... I dont know what the hell you are complaining about
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geralds

I am not complaining im just understand people is in whats the point in playing and getting to max level when at launch there was nothing to do.  I already know them mission and all the quest are quite easy.

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Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: geralds on 12/16/2010, 11:31 AMI am not complaining im just understand people is in whats the point in playing and getting to max level when at launch there was nothing to do.  I already know them mission and all the quest are quite easy.
you are too complaining, and if you yourself haven't hit max level, you're just repeating other peoples pissing and moaning like a parrot
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

rag-time4

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/11/2010, 04:27 AMSo does anyone make normal JRPGs anymore? I mean, games were you don't have to farm, or ranch, or mine, or auction, or forge, or synthesize, or any of that horrendously torturous monotonous soul sapping bullshit? Games that aren't padded out to 90 hours when they should be 35, you know. I like games like Lunar or FFIV were you have XP and levels, simple. The weapons all come from chests or stores or key plot points. When the magic chick hits level 37 she gets Fire4, stuff like that. Are these still being made, or do I have to play 8/16-bit RPGs forever?
Hironobu Sakaguchi has made a few games recently for XBOX 360: Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, and is coming out soon with Last Story for Wii. I haven't had the chance to really try them yet but I'm hoping they have old-school appeal.

Arkhan Asylum

Lost Odyssey was a colossal disappointment, full of boring horse shit and really stale plot development and characters.

Blue Dragon however, was awesome.  Thumbs up all around on that one.
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geralds

Basicly ya repeating what people said becouse it made viable sence for launch.  What do yo do when you hit max level there only so many quest you coudl do befor there was nothing to do.  You can hit max level quite fast if you do it right. 

I also agree lost odyssey sucks big time.

JoshTurboTrollX

I actually totally disagree (big shocker)  I enjoyed both Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon.

Lost Odyssey was more like what I'd hope Final Fantasy games should be like now.   More like Final Fantasy X.  Thumbs up from me.
And Yea Blue Dragon was that awesome old school style role playing kick in the ass the industry is trying like hell to ignore... oh well.
Jossshhhhh...Legendary TurboTrollX-16: He revenge-bans PCE Developers/Ys IV Localizers from PCE Facebook groups and destroyed 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Josh and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner (extortion/blackmail!), never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Arkhan Asylum

Final Fantasy X is exactly what RPGs shouldnt be...

a cutscene filled disaster with a pussy of a main character that whines the whole time, and battles who's challenges range somewhere between my little pony, and blues clues.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Arkhan Asylum

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

geralds

#67
Quote from: guest on 12/21/2010, 05:09 PMhttp://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=e9e976fd34cacd564cb8e9d862b2c75c9b8d356f


BLAM!
Great an item search feater that didnt do what it should have done.  People wont uses the ward system right so the search feature is nice just suck because no one  places items in the right place.  So that is failed still.  Make peopel uses the ward system right then it will actualy be quite usefull.  While yes its has improved alot still need work.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Final_fantasy_xiv#WAIT_DON.27T_REVIEW_IT_YET

Arkhan Asylum

so you're blaming the players now.  They introduce a perfectly working system, and you still complain.  Its like giving a person a perfectly working pistol, and having them complain when they shoot their own foot.  Quit being a dumbass, and you won't have any problems.  Its a simple concept.   If people are too retarded to put their leather items in the leather ward.... they don't deserve sales.  Other people are smart and do it right.  They get the gil, while the other idiot doesnt

Jokes on you, as the system works fine.  You search for say, undyed gray cloth, and ANY WARD YOU ENTER will then put a pink star over vendors heads, and turn their radar blip red.

Maybe you should try these things before you just spew out more garbled complaints.  The patch went live like 12 hours ago.  I doubt you even logged in.

The market itself is becoming more organized.  People are finally understanding how to properly use the wards and get business.


That encylopedia dramatica link is funny:

All the stuff "Square didnt add to the game"  is WoW bullshit.

Jumping, Swimming?  Cause FF11 had those.

Every day, FF14 gets better.  Every update makes it more and more awesome.  All the whiners and quitters will wish they'd stayed around.
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geralds

#69
well they system is much nicer now but  sence it only will let you search 1 ward then them all its still has its isues. It don't work fine then realy need to make people catagorize shit right then the search functionw ould work much better.  I know you say any ward but when i tried i tried it only worked for 1 ward unless im using the system rong.  Every one who quite the game based on comments iv seen coudl care less they would rather do it later.  I agree getting much better still improvements they have to do to the game tho.

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: geralds on 12/22/2010, 04:29 AMwell they system is much nicer now but  sence it only will let you search 1 ward then them all its still has its isues. It don't work fine then realy need to make people catagorize shit right then the search functionw ould work much better.  I know you say any ward but when i tried i tried it only worked for 1 ward unless im using the system rong.  Every one who quite the game based on comments iv seen coudl care less they would rather do it later.  I agree getting much better still improvements they have to do to the game tho.
It doesnt let you search just one ward.  The search is organized by what ward the item should be found in.   Once you search, it flags them in EVERY ward.

Like I said, try the stuff out before you just start complaining, or regurgitating the complaints of some other dumbass you read about on a forum.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

geralds

I did try it for several hours ether i just couldnt find what i was looking for in other wards.  I spent 3 hours looking for items to only find people in the original ward sellection.  IT said 8 were selling said item unless that number meen the number of items being sold not number of  people selling.