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Selling action figures again.... but I've had lots of shenanigans being pulled!!

Started by rag-time4, 12/24/2008, 04:50 PM

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rag-time4

Hey guys, I'm gonna have some ebay horror stories of my own, possibly to eclipse some of Mike and Quoth's stories!

Here's the item in question

As usual, I started all my auctions at a penny. Not having any idea there would be any major demand for this lot, I was expecting $20 at the most. I've received a series of harassing emails from one user, friendly ones from some others. It seems some of these guys know each other, which makes it even more interesting. As it winds down here I'll post more info about it.

guyjin



Sparky

Quote from: rag-time4 on 12/24/2008, 04:50 PMHey guys, I'm gonna have some ebay horror stories of my own, possibly to eclipse some of Mike and Quoth's stories!

Here's the item in question

As usual, I started all my auctions at a penny. Not having any idea there would be any major demand for this lot, I was expecting $20 at the most. I've received a series of harassing emails from one user, friendly ones from some others. It seems some of these guys know each other, which makes it even more interesting. As it winds down here I'll post more info about it.
Harassing emails?? stay strong man, you are an honest guy so let the others fight it out and be there to collect the cash :) any idea what figure or figures are the draw??? Anyway its a merry xmas to you my friend the way tings are going :D

PCEngineHell

Crazy considering these figures sucked ass. I cant believe people get their panties in a bunch over low quality crap. At least your getting 5000 times the amount you spent on them as a kid. We used to buy them and strip them of their weapons and orings for Joe figure repair when I was young. K-Mart always had these bastards dirt cheap in 1 and 2 packs.

MotherGunner

-MG

SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM (If you want peace, Prepare for war)
SI VIS BELLUM, PARA MATRIMONIUM (If you want war, Prepare for marriage)

ParanoiaDragon

Hmm, this is why I'm hesitant to sell on ebay.  I haven't had these problems on half, but, some stuff I want to sell, namely, action figures, you can't see on half.
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rag-time4

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 12/24/2008, 10:05 PMHmm, this is why I'm hesitant to sell on ebay.  I haven't had these problems on half, but, some stuff I want to sell, namely, action figures, you can't see on half.
Let's see how it all works out. Got 1 hour to go... I'm gonna wait and see how things play out and I'll share my experience...

Quote from: PC-ENGINE HELL on 12/24/2008, 06:41 PMCrazy considering these figures sucked ass. I cant believe people get their panties in a bunch over low quality crap. At least your getting 5000 times the amount you spent on them as a kid. We used to buy them and strip them of their weapons and orings for Joe figure repair when I was young. K-Mart always had these bastards dirt cheap in 1 and 2 packs.
I'm surprised as hell! I kept a lot of their gear. My dad always wanted me to take care of my stuff, and he helped me get o-rings at the orchard supply hardware we used to have by the house. I was thinking to myself the other day I wish I had gotten more Joe stuff instead of these, but seeing how this auction has blown off the roof i've reconsidered that...  :-"

rag-time4

I just received positive feedback for this item, so everything has worked out way more smoothly than I was expecting. I did get some harrassing messages from one user, which I'll share here, but I also exchanged emails with someone who has an archive for these figures. He asked me for pictures before I sent them away, so that was pretty fun. Ultimately nothing to compare with some of the drama Mike and quoth have been through.

During the auction, with a few days to go, the guy who eventually won the auction entered a $4000 bid, which he retracted as 'entered wrong amount' which seemed to me to be shenanigans, allowing him to see what others were bidding. Given the harrassing messages I was getting I would have blocked him also if I had received the slightest complaint from any other bidders.

Here are the harrassing messages, from user i-am-john

Message 1:

Dear lioncub10,

Hi,I happen to own several of these figures and know for a fact that 2 of them were reassembled(first row 4th figure and second row 3rd figure,both have arms that are from other figures(both arms from the first figure and 1 from the second.You might want to add this to your info.


- i-am-john

My response 1:

Dear i-am-john,

Peace and blessings be unto you! Do you have pics you could show me to confirm? If so, please e-mail me direct at lion_cub10@hotmail.com Also, please send this message to me again so I can add it to the listing after I get your confirmation pics.


- lioncub10

His message 2:

Dear lioncub10,

I'm not wasting my time sending you pictures about what I know to be true(first row 4th figure and the 5th are gas mask figures both are supposed to have long sleeve arms(1 white and the other black)2nd row the 3rd figure is supposed to have 2 blue human arms(not 1 human and 1 robot)take a look at the robot figure in the 3rd row at both his arms and compare to the second row figure.There ia a reason another ebayer asked you if any of the figures were reassembled because a couple are.If I bid on this lot and win I would leave you negative feedback because of those 2 figures being stated as "original"


- i-am-john

My response 2a:

Dear i-am-john,

Peace and blessings be unto you! If you can send me some pics to confirm I will be more than happy to add your info to the listing. Please email me some pics, or maybe post them to photobucket and email me a link. There are precious few resources online for pics of these figures so any help would truly be appreciated.

~ Eric (lioncub10)


- lioncub10

My response 2b, sent after I got a link to a photo archive:

Dear i-am-john,

Another ebayer has sent me a great resource for these figures.

ROW 2 FIG 3 does indeed have a claw and a human hand, as in my auction. http://www.joebattlelines.com/jmto/remcoamericandefense/controladsit.htm

I can't find ROW 1 FIG 4 in the database, but I'm willing to bet he's original too.

~ Eric (lioncub10)


- lioncub10

His message 3:

Dear lioncub10,

What a lame site and the pictures look fake,the white gas mask figure is still a fake and you should state is as so


- i-am-john

My response 3a:

Dear i-am-john,

I'd gladly do so if you could provide me with a picture to confirm. Any mistakes in the listing are only due to ignorance, as information on them is hard to come by. There isn't a complete archive like yojoe.com for them, that i know of

~ Eric (lioncub10)


- lioncub10

My response 3b:

Dear i-am-john,

Peace and blessings be unto you,

Just wanted to inform you that due to the fact that your claim about my blue figure were proven false, and you have refused to send me a photo to prove your claim about the other figure, and for the rudeness of your tone, I have added you to my blocked bidders list.

If you are willing to send me a photo to verify your claim about the other figure I will definitely mention it in my listing and will consider removing you from my blocked bidders list.

~ Eric (lioncub10)


- lioncub10

Here's his classy final message:

Dear lioncub10,

THANK YOU !!! I purposely wanted to make sure I couldn't be allowed to bid on your auction.Believe had I paid 100 plus dollars for these crappy condition figures (broken hand galore in this lot you better believe once I had received them I would have complained filed a paypal complaint over the smallest thing (white gas mask figure being reaasembled)then it would be a major hassle esp when most of the figures are garbage( I use to shoot these figures(the human ones)with my pellet gun along with the lame gi joes like DUKE,FLINT,ROADBLOCK)So by annoying you to the point where you block me it saves you and me time and aggravation !! Some moron is going to pay you a hundred plus dollars for a bunch of busted up knock offs generic figures except for 6 or so,WHAT RETARDS !! Enjoy your holidays and watch out for those paypal complaints !!! May ALLAH give you a goat that you can suckle so you never go thirsty and a stomach like a concentration camp victim so you never become a glutton.


- i-am-john

My wife got pissed about this last message and tried to fire back but she wasn't able to.

MotherGunner

-MG

SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM (If you want peace, Prepare for war)
SI VIS BELLUM, PARA MATRIMONIUM (If you want war, Prepare for marriage)

termis

I like how you totally proved him wrong, and because of it, he goes on a personal attack spree.

I can only imagine what these 'tards are like in real life...

rag-time4

Quote from: termis on 01/04/2009, 06:18 PMI like how you totally proved him wrong, and because of it, he goes on a personal attack spree.

I can only imagine what these 'tards are like in real life...
I'm kind of thinking that it was actually a secondary account of someone who was really interested in the lot doing some kind of espionage, given that it went so high.

Then again, maybe he was being straightforward. I think it was some kind of shenanigans. The person who sent me the link to the archive site was the person who suggested I block i-am-john so I took his advice.

ParanoiaDragon

IMG

PCEngineHell

Quote from: rag-time4 on 01/04/2009, 07:14 PM
Quote from: termis on 01/04/2009, 06:18 PMI like how you totally proved him wrong, and because of it, he goes on a personal attack spree.

I can only imagine what these 'tards are like in real life...
I'm kind of thinking that it was actually a secondary account of someone who was really interested in the lot doing some kind of espionage, given that it went so high.

Then again, maybe he was being straightforward. I think it was some kind of shenanigans. The person who sent me the link to the archive site was the person who suggested I block i-am-john so I took his advice.
You have a link to his profile? Was wondering because I cant find a id for i-am-john on ebay in member search.

rag-time4

Quote from: PC-ENGINE HELL on 01/04/2009, 11:59 PM
Quote from: rag-time4 on 01/04/2009, 07:14 PM
Quote from: termis on 01/04/2009, 06:18 PMI like how you totally proved him wrong, and because of it, he goes on a personal attack spree.

I can only imagine what these 'tards are like in real life...
I'm kind of thinking that it was actually a secondary account of someone who was really interested in the lot doing some kind of espionage, given that it went so high.

Then again, maybe he was being straightforward. I think it was some kind of shenanigans. The person who sent me the link to the archive site was the person who suggested I block i-am-john so I took his advice.
You have a link to his profile? Was wondering because I cant find a id for i-am-john on ebay in member search.
link

Seems like he changed his name!