Grafx to Duo controller adapter?

Jitawa · 04/05/2008, 10:28 PM

I've only found one site online that even mentions it, and that was on an out of date price list. I know it exists, but I have no idea where to find it.

I have a duo and a turbografx, but I only have one duo controller (but I have the duo tap oddly enough). My other controller peripherals are all grafx, extension cord, a couple controllers, and a turbostick. Ideally I'd be using everything with the Duo which takes up less space and runs the most games. I'd be willing to just say screw it and buy the original turbotap, but I'd still need some way to connect it to the duo.

Meh

SignOfZeta · 04/05/2008, 10:42 PM

These adaptors were hard to find even back in the day. They were bascially a computer part, not a game system part, and it was pretty uncommon to need one for anything other than your situation. In fact, I'm not sure what they were originally for. MIDI to ADB, possibly? I don't think that would even work...

The cables are easily swappable in NEC systems though. Just take your Duo controller apart and unplug its cable. Then install that cable into a Turbo Tap and you'll be able to use all your Turbo controllers on the Duo.

I have no idea what a Turbo Tap costs, but they are probably cheaper than one of these adaptors, and certainly cheaper than five of them.

NecroPhile · 04/06/2008, 02:06 AM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/05/2008, 10:42 PMThese adaptors were hard to find even back in the day. They were bascially a computer part, not a game system part, and it was pretty uncommon to need one for anything other than your situation. In fact, I'm not sure what they were originally for. MIDI to ADB, possibly? I don't think that would even work...

If I could buy one at Babbage's in the Midwest, then they couldn't have been too rare. They were an official part (HES-DIN-01) distributed by NEC, not a will fit computer part, and were originally for using TG-16 pads on a Duo. It even said so on the box.

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/05/2008, 10:42 PMThe cables are easily swappable in NEC systems though. Just take your Duo controller apart and unplug its cable. Then install that cable into a Turbo Tap and you'll be able to use all your Turbo controllers on the Duo.

I have no idea what a Turbo Tap costs, but they are probably cheaper than one of these adaptors, and certainly cheaper than five of them.

All true, though a few early controllers used different plugs on the pcb. If you ask nat nicely, he might talk you through modifying a turbo tap to work on your Duo, or maybe even sell you one pre-modded. Another tap would be cheaper than finding one of the original adaptors, or you could buy the parts to build your own.

Jitawa · 04/06/2008, 03:27 AM

Quote from: guest on 04/06/2008, 02:06 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/05/2008, 10:42 PMThese adaptors were hard to find even back in the day. They were bascially a computer part, not a game system part, and it was pretty uncommon to need one for anything other than your situation. In fact, I'm not sure what they were originally for. MIDI to ADB, possibly? I don't think that would even work...
If I could buy one at Babbage's in the Midwest, then they couldn't have been too rare. They were an official part (HES-DIN-01) distributed by NEC, not a will fit computer part, and were originally for using TG-16 pads on a Duo. It even said so on the box.

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/05/2008, 10:42 PMThe cables are easily swappable in NEC systems though. Just take your Duo controller apart and unplug its cable. Then install that cable into a Turbo Tap and you'll be able to use all your Turbo controllers on the Duo.

I have no idea what a Turbo Tap costs, but they are probably cheaper than one of these adaptors, and certainly cheaper than five of them.
All true, though a few early controllers used different plugs on the pcb. If you ask nat nicely, he might talk you through modifying a turbo tap to work on your Duo, or maybe even sell you one pre-modded. Another tap would be cheaper than finding one of the original adaptors, or you could buy the parts to build your own.

I'm planning on shipping him my Duo already. Maybe I can throw a turbotap, a duo pad, a ballpoint pen, a tampon, and some cheetos in there with it and tell him to go MacGyver on it.

Turbo D · 04/06/2008, 06:26 AM

I bought one of these at a local hole in the wall game store last month for $4.00, the dude didn't think anything of it. I had been looking for one for a looong time; they always sell on ebay for $20 and up. The reason I wanted it so bad was to play the duo with the og turbostick. I don't know why nec didn't make a duo stick

. Below is a pic of my cable ( why does it come with instructions? lol.)

MurderDate · 04/06/2008, 08:11 AM

I have one of these adapters - I was actually going to start a thread with some misc. stuff I want to trade. It will be included in there.

SignOfZeta · 04/06/2008, 12:17 PM

Wow, I've never even seen the official product before.

CrackTiger · 04/06/2008, 07:48 PM

I bought the official one when it first came out. When I got my Duo, I already had a Turbo-CD combo with a tap and at least 3 pads and a Turbostick.

Before I got the official Duo cable, I used a Turbopad + Turbo Cable + Duo adaptor.

Jitawa · 04/07/2008, 04:21 AM

Quote from: turbo D on 04/06/2008, 06:26 AMI bought one of these at a local hole in the wall game store last month for $4.00, the dude didn't think anything of it. I had been looking for one for a looong time; they always sell on ebay for $20 and up. The reason I wanted it so bad was to play the duo with the og turbostick. I don't know why nec didn't make a duo stick . Below is a pic of my cable ( why does it come with instructions? lol.)

Sweet Zombie Jesus, I didn't think I'd ever actually SEE one of those things!

Jitawa · 04/07/2008, 07:41 AM

Found one on Ebay, but it's part of an auction I can pretty much guarantee I won't be winning.

Check it out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-NEC-Turbo-Duo-system-Duo-Tap-5-Duo-Pads-PLUS-Games_W0QQitemZ380014209539QQihZ025QQcategoryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

New DUO in the box, with a boxed tap, four boxed duo controllers, and a boxed adapter. That seems totally improbable, but they have pictures.... who would have this sort of stuff just lying around sealed sixteen years after it was made?

MurderDate · 04/07/2008, 08:17 AM

wow, that's a great auction, and yes, it will probably go for a mint. people just LOVE those Duos fresh out of the box. if it doesn't there is no justice in the world. (too risky for me - I'll stick to my TGCD and system cards!)

Turbo D · 04/07/2008, 05:40 PM

@ that auction. Too bad I cannot afford what it will go for, lol.

Mobius · 04/07/2008, 05:45 PM

Oof, do not tempt me with these auctions... I'm supposed to be holding off on any game buying this month.

I'll just add it to my watch list.

SignOfZeta · 04/08/2008, 12:10 AM

I think buying a "new" US Duo at this point is pretty nuts given the capacitor issues.

NecroPhile · 04/08/2008, 01:21 AM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/08/2008, 12:10 AMI think buying a "new" US Duo at this point is pretty nuts given the capacitor issues.

No more nuts than buying a used one, as it may have the same issue in addition to thousands of hours of use and/or abuse.

SignOfZeta · 04/08/2008, 01:28 AM

Yeah, but the seller is obligated to test a used model. With a "new" model its a shot in the dark.

NecroPhile · 04/08/2008, 01:45 AM

Very true, though both Duos are in the same boat thirty days later (except the new one will always have less wear and tear). That doesn't make it worth paying a huge premium, but I can understand why people would prefer new versus old.

VestCunt · 04/08/2008, 02:33 PM

Jitawa, SignofZeta made a good point about swapping your controller cables. However, you can do the same thing with Tap cables. Buy a TurboTap and replace the cable with the one from your DuoTap (no, the nice long cable from your DuoPad won't work). I would either do that or see if Nat can help you out.

nat · 04/08/2008, 06:14 PM

Quote from: guest on 04/08/2008, 02:33 PMJitawa, SignofZeta made a good point about swapping your controller cables. However, you can do the same thing with Tap cables. Buy a TurboTap and replace the cable with the one from your DuoTap (no, the nice long cable from your DuoPad won't work).

Yes, it will. I even wrote up a DIY guide for using pad cables in your Tap over a year ago and posted it up on these very forums:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=2893.msg36307#msg36307

And if that looks too intimidating for anyone here, as vestcunt indicated, I'd be happy to do it for you.

Personally, I've been enjoying a super-long MultiTap cable for a couple years now.

Jitawa · 04/08/2008, 11:04 PM

Quote from: nat on 04/08/2008, 06:14 PM
Quote from: guest on 04/08/2008, 02:33 PMJitawa, SignofZeta made a good point about swapping your controller cables. However, you can do the same thing with Tap cables. Buy a TurboTap and replace the cable with the one from your DuoTap (no, the nice long cable from your DuoPad won't work).
Yes, it will. I even wrote up a DIY guide for using pad cables in your Tap over a year ago and posted it up on these very forums:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=2893.msg36307#msg36307

And if that looks too intimidating for anyone here, as vestcunt indicated, I'd be happy to do it for you.

Personally, I've been enjoying a super-long MultiTap cable for a couple years now.

Yeah, I sent you a PM a bit ago, thanks Nat!

VestCunt · 04/09/2008, 12:20 AM

Thanks for reposting that thread, Nat. I knew that the cord doesn't work as-is couldn't remember how complex the modification was.