Shall I bother finishing Cosmic Fantasy 2?

[_Paul]

Convince me it's worth it...I'm getting so very bored of the constant battles and grind...is there something great to look forward to in the later parts of the game or should I not bother?

[JoshTurboTrollX]

it gets easier as you move forward.  The Grind never ends, but the storyline is totally worth it!  Very memorable.  With some added polish, this game could have been one of the best ever. 

Just level up like crazy and grind away- the rewards are great!

[NecroPhile]

linky

It's a grind, but it's worth playing through to the end.  Besides, after suffering through Rastan Saga II this should be a cake walk.

[_Paul]

I'm scared to admit it, but I might even prefer the cruddyness of Rastan Saga II to hours of unending grind sending me to sleep.

Maybe if I play a little each day it will be easier. I don't know what's happened, I used to be all for JRPGs, but in recent years I've just lost interest because of the never ending grind which is just a pointless time sink in many cases.

[Senshi]

Maybe if I play a little each day it will be easier. I don't know what's happened, I used to be all for JRPGs, but in recent years I've just lost interest because of the never ending grind which is just a pointless time sink in many cases.

I feel the same way about Dragon Slayer.

[_Paul]

Maybe if I play a little each day it will be easier. I don't know what's happened, I used to be all for JRPGs, but in recent years I've just lost interest because of the never ending grind which is just a pointless time sink in many cases.

I feel the same way about Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer is one of the few I really don't mind at all. I think it's because at some point you can actually see the monsters wandering around and choose when to fight them. And the combat music is great.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Maybe if I play a little each day it will be easier. I don't know what's happened, I used to be all for JRPGs, but in recent years I've just lost interest because of the never ending grind which is just a pointless time sink in many cases.

I feel the same way about Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer is one of the few I really don't mind at all. I think it's because at some point you can actually see the monsters wandering around and choose when to fight them. And the combat music is great.

Not only that, but, you can do auto battle in DS, making the grind even easier!  And hell, if you play it on an emulator....you can auto battle weaker enemies while speeding up the emulation if you like!  However, both games are a blast for me, & CF2 was my very first RPG, I had never played one before, but, I liked the look of the cinemas I saw in EGM, so I bought it on day 1.  The story is worth it IMO.  I'd say more, but, don't want to spoil anything.

[VestCunt]

I'd like to finish CF2 someday, but I lost my save file twice and don't have the heart to slog through the first two thirds again.  (Once in '97 due to running a Tennokoe Bank through a bad Barney Converter.  Once in '04 from not turning on my system for three months.) 

Are there complete dungeon maps posted anywhere?  I might attempt it again if I know I can get through it without taking one. single. extra. monster-encountering. step.

[TurboXray]

Maybe if I play a little each day it will be easier. I don't know what's happened, I used to be all for JRPGs, but in recent years I've just lost interest because of the never ending grind which is just a pointless time sink in many cases.

I feel the same way about Dragon Slayer.

I've beaten Dragon Slayer probably 5-6 times total. Very easy game, not a lot of grinding once you get going in comparison for traditional JRPGs. And it's rather short. I've only beaten CF2 once, BITD when it was new. I could never bring myself to complete it again. Ever since it felt like work, not like fun.

[Arkhan Asylum]

there are tits.

Censored in the US version, get your save there in the English one...... AND THEN LOAD THE JAPANESE DISC. REJOICE AT THE BOOBIES.

The game is awesome.  Its only flaw is the random battle rate is more like, 1 in 3 steps, or something idiotic.

Do what I did the one time, I just "played" the game while doing other things.  By play I mean, I taped the turbob button down on a turbo stick, and moved the joystick with my foot and then just let the battle play out.  If you do it in an area where the enemies have little chance of winning, you'll gain levels before you know it! ^_^

[runinruder]

there are tits.

Censored in the US version, get your save there in the English one...... AND THEN LOAD THE JAPANESE DISC. REJOICE AT THE BOOBIES.

Sorry, but you're wrong about this.  The shower scene is exactly the same in the Japanese version of Cosmic Fantasy 2.  It was "altered" for the Cosmic Fantasy Visual Collection.

Check here for shower scene screen comparisons:

wayback://thebrothersduomazov.com/cosmic-fantasy-visual-collection.html

And here's a lot of info on how the US and JPN versions of CF2 compare:

wayback://thebrothersduomazov.com/cosmic-fantasy-2.html
wayback://thebrothersduomazov.com/ravaging-of-cosmic-fantasy.html

[termis]

Are there complete dungeon maps posted anywhere?  I might attempt it again if I know I can get through it without taking one. single. extra. monster-encountering. step.

It's a Japanese FAQ site, but it has all the maps:
http://rko.jp/cosmic_fantasy_2-bouken_shounen_ban/index.html

The links under the 攻略 section, (broken down by chapters) are where all the dungeon maps are located.  The items found in the dungeons are obviously written all in Japanese as well, so unless you can read Japanese, you'll have to figure some of those out by trial and error (before long, you'll recognize the commonly repeated items, like herbs and whatnot).

[OldRover]

The encounter rate in CF2 is like this:

random(30) + 5

but the seed seems to be broken as it often generates the same value three or four times in a row. There are quite a few bugs in CF2 and this is one of them.

And afaik, the only thing that was censored from the Japan version to the US version is Babette flipping off Robert while telling him that she's gonna turn him in for a complete overhaul for ratting her out.

[NecroPhile]

Are there complete dungeon maps posted anywhere?  I might attempt it again if I know I can get through it without taking one. single. extra. monster-encountering. step.

It probably won't do you much good, because you need to grind to level up.

[_Paul]

Are there complete dungeon maps posted anywhere?  I might attempt it again if I know I can get through it without taking one. single. extra. monster-encountering. step.

It probably won't do you much good, because you need to grind to level up.

That's actually quite handy. Once I feel I have levelled enough, I like to head straight for where I need to go, without loas of frustrating wrong turns wasting my herbs.

[NecroPhile]

That's actually quite handy. Once I feel I have levelled enough, I like to head straight for where I need to go, without loas of frustrating wrong turns wasting my herbs.

I suppose, though by the time I've ground my way up a sufficient number of levels I could find my way blindfolded.

[_Paul]

I prefer to grind near an exit rather than wandering around too much in case I need a quick escape.

[esteban]

I say, "Hell Yes" it is worth it. The story is really a treat, you actually care about the characters. This rarely happens in movies, IMO, and yet here we have a video game that is able to achieve it.

It's a fun ride.

I know the grinding is tedious, but, to be honest, I felt that way about most JRPG's back in the day. Now I'm even less forgiving of the genre.

So, yes, finish the goddamn game. Even if the battles are a chore for you, consider it a "rite of passage". That will make the entire endeavor feel more worthwhile . Believe me, that is what I do when playing Athena and Super Pitfall on NES.

[_Paul]

Playing it now....I'm looking on it as training for Mysterious Song.

[Bernie]

I loved the game.  So, I am going to of course say its worth it.  The story is awesome, IMO.  Too bad its the only one on the Turbo that got a translation. 

[SignOfZeta]

Well, here's the deal. In Japan there were quite a few of these simplistic JRPGs with lots of cut-scenes, spoken dialogue, etc with great use of the sort character designs that were popular in anime back then. The Telnet games, the Rayforce games, Babel, Tengai, and a bunch more. Cosmic Fantasy 2 (there are 5 of them in Japan) is pretty much the only game like this that came out in English. Sure its a POS, but it has a nice story and cinemas and if you skip this one English game of its type you are therefore skipping the entire genre, and its one of the best genres on PCE.

This is assuming of course you don't play raw Japanese games. If you do, then yeah, just skip it and play something much better like Startling Odyssey 2. Wait, now that I think about it SO was fan translated last year so...play that instead!

[Arkhan Asylum]

there are tits.

Censored in the US version, get your save there in the English one...... AND THEN LOAD THE JAPANESE DISC. REJOICE AT THE BOOBIES.

Sorry, but you're wrong about this.  The shower scene is exactly the same in the Japanese version of Cosmic Fantasy 2.  It was "altered" for the Cosmic Fantasy Visual Collection.

Check here for shower scene screen comparisons:

http://www.thebrothersduomazov.com/search/label/Cosmic%20Fantasy%20Visual%20Collection

And here's a lot of info on how the US and JPN versions of CF2 compare:

http://www.thebrothersduomazov.com/search/label/Cosmic%20Fantasy%202

Oh, neat.

I never actually tried it myself, and was repeating what someone else had told me.  I was way too lazy to confirm it, so thanks:)

[ParanoiaDragon]

Playing it now....I'm looking on it as training for Mysterious Song.

Technically CF2 is a longer game, though, the Super Dungeon in Mysterious Song...I've never played it, not sure how long it'd take to get thru the beast.