The Official Pioneer LaserActive Player thread-

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SamIAm

Someday...someday...this will be emulated.

I've seen the longplays on youtube, and I can wait.

SignOfZeta

Quote from: McKie1 on 11/02/2016, 11:10 PMIMG

Quick pic showing the ridiculous size difference between the bottom LD player and the LA
Who buys an X-0 and then stacks junk on top of it like a teenager who can't get a ride to Ikea? Also, dust...depressing.
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Bloufo

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 11/03/2016, 11:30 AM
Quote from: McKie1 on 11/02/2016, 11:10 PMIMG
Quick pic showing the ridiculous size difference between the bottom LD player and the LA
Who buys an X-0 and then stacks junk on top of it like a teenager who can't get a ride to Ikea? Also, dust...depressing.
I approve of this post.

SignOfZeta

Also, if that pic were taken at less of an angle the LA would look smaller. I think the X-0 is about double the height of the A-100.
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TheClash603


xcrement5x

Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/13/2017, 08:08 AMhttp://m.ebay.com/itm/LaserActive-Instructions-VHS-Tape-Japan-LAST-ONE-IN-THE-WORLD-RARE-Collection-/162411440523?hash=item25d079e98b%3Ag%3A0K8AAOSwx6pYs8-I&_trkparms=pageci%253A23fe685c-07e5-11e7-a362-74dbd180364f%257Cparentrq%253Ac78dbbd315a0a3588335ec2afff6f7dd%257Ciid%253A7

Has anyone ever seen this video?  Is the content different than Zoom?  I'd love to see this posted on YouTube.

...also, I'm glad the seller has stopped making mistakes, what a strange listing.
That's the JH Long Video.  Probably the weirdest promotion video I have seen as from what I was able to understand, it promotes the LA as like alien technology and integrates the promo along with a mock interview with someone recounting their abduction experience.

LaserActive Dude/Guy posted it here: https://youtu.be/j_MbWydCm7U

I've got that VHS version, and stumbled upon the LaserDisc version a bit back and it's waiting for me in Japan right now.  I'll ship it back once I get a bundle to combine shipping.

I really hope you did not buy that copy, that cooljpstuff seller is a horrible person.
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I actually skimmed through that video once before, but I don't have any idea what is going on.  Someone should make dubbing that video a passion project to appease me.

Don't worry I didn't buy that video, I love old VHS tapes for $30, but not the sale price.

Gypsy

Quote from: guest on 03/13/2017, 03:07 PMI really hope you did not buy that copy, that cooljpstuff seller is a horrible person.
I assumed this based on their human garbage listing tactics, but do you have more insight to share?

xcrement5x

Quote from: Gypsy on 03/15/2017, 12:51 AM
Quote from: guest on 03/13/2017, 03:07 PMI really hope you did not buy that copy, that cooljpstuff seller is a horrible person.
I assumed this based on their human garbage listing tactics, but do you have more insight to share?
Basically I've noticed that a lot of the stuff they are "selling" they don't actually own or have access to.  They are taking pictures from Yahoo Japan auctions, putting them in ebay listings, and then jacking up the prices by about 4 times or more.  If it's a running auction they don't win it they will sit on your cash for a long time refusing to refund saying they are "waiting on a partner" to send it to them to ship to you. 

Check out their negative feedback for some gems.  I first noticed this when some very unique items showed up on YJA one day, then on ebay the next day for some insane price.  When I asked if they could ship out ASAP if I bought an item they said no they would need to get from their partner, and when I called them out about the auction with the exact same pictures they said "do not contact us again or we will block you". 
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TheClash603

Whatever happened to that Laseractive homebrew project?  I am guessing it is dead since it would've been beyond ambitious to even attempt, but it would be awesome if I was wrong.

Gypsy

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Quote from: guest on 03/15/2017, 10:33 AM
Quote from: Gypsy on 03/15/2017, 12:51 AM
Quote from: guest on 03/13/2017, 03:07 PMI really hope you did not buy that copy, that cooljpstuff seller is a horrible person.
I assumed this based on their human garbage listing tactics, but do you have more insight to share?
Basically I've noticed that a lot of the stuff they are "selling" they don't actually own or have access to.  They are taking pictures from Yahoo Japan auctions, putting them in ebay listings, and then jacking up the prices by about 4 times or more.  If it's a running auction they don't win it they will sit on your cash for a long time refusing to refund saying they are "waiting on a partner" to send it to them to ship to you. 

Check out their negative feedback for some gems.
  I first noticed this when some very unique items showed up on YJA one day, then on ebay the next day for some insane price.  When I asked if they could ship out ASAP if I bought an item they said no they would need to get from their partner, and when I called them out about the auction with the exact same pictures they said "do not contact us again or we will block you".
"Item got damaged during transit from our warehouse to our office."

Your warehouse. Riiiiiight.

Oh and lol at blocking you since you discovered their racket. It would be such a huge loss for you I'm sure.

SignOfZeta

Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/15/2017, 10:57 AMWhatever happened to that Laseractive homebrew project?  I am guessing it is dead since it would've been beyond ambitious to even attempt, but it would be awesome if I was wrong.
I have no idea but if said project involves pressing a disc I can tell you that we're no closer to being able to do that than we were several years ago.
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Can CD-ROM discs be used in any of the LaserActive modes?
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Quote from: SignOfZeta on 03/15/2017, 02:50 PM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/15/2017, 10:57 AMWhatever happened to that Laseractive homebrew project?  I am guessing it is dead since it would've been beyond ambitious to even attempt, but it would be awesome if I was wrong.
I have no idea but if said project involves pressing a disc I can tell you that we're no closer to being able to do that than we were several years ago.
In fact we are going away from being able to press a disc since where on earth are you going to find a digital Laserdisc press or Master machine in 2017? It might have been doable 10, 15 years ago. Not now though, which is sad.

I barely remember about some hardcore Laseractive collector trying to make a game reproduction or something with a replicator with special Laserdisc media but I'm probably remembering this wrong.
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Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/13/2017, 11:24 PMI actually skimmed through that video once before, but I don't have any idea what is going on.  Someone should make dubbing that video a passion project to appease me.

Don't worry I didn't buy that video, I love old VHS tapes for $30, but not the sale price.
I think it was DragonMasterDan or chany who shared that link with me recently and I watched the video three times (I had to show it to my brothers, they didn't believe me):

(1) it is documentary style and, oddly, it has a serious tone for a majority of it.

(2) beyond being "serious", there are moments where the abductee is in extreme pain/torment (physical and emotional). This makes the promo *disturbing* yet even more *brilliant* because it's *not* campy at this point.

(3) for a really, really, really long time...no mention of LaserActive, video games, Pioneer, LaserDisc, or anything of the sort. This makes the promo even more *brilliant*

(4) the alien + abductee relationship is suddenly revealed and is campy. BUT 2-player coop is pure bliss for interplanetary gaming.

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SignOfZeta

Quote from: guest on 03/15/2017, 04:16 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 03/15/2017, 02:50 PM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/15/2017, 10:57 AMWhatever happened to that Laseractive homebrew project?  I am guessing it is dead since it would've been beyond ambitious to even attempt, but it would be awesome if I was wrong.
I have no idea but if said project involves pressing a disc I can tell you that we're no closer to being able to do that than we were several years ago.
In fact we are going away from being able to press a disc since where on earth are you going to find a digital Laserdisc press or Master machine in 2017? It might have been doable 10, 15 years ago. Not now though, which is sad.

I barely remember about some hardcore Laseractive collector trying to make a game reproduction or something with a replicator with special Laserdisc media but I'm probably remembering this wrong.
I'm convinced we'll have something eventually, but it won't be manufactured in the conventional way. Same with players.

But yeah, over in the LDDB forum we often see some guy talk about how he knows some way to resume production or fire up one of those burners nobody has ever seen. These guys have tons of optimism and like 1 post. Their first post is them telling an entire forum full of LD nerds that they know how to start making LDs again, as if we've all haven't been wanting that for 15 years.

Most recently it was a guy who was a huge fan of Regular Show so he wanted to press The Last Laserdisc Player and give it to the creator regardless of cost. Sadly the cost is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions so that never came out, same with the World's Biggest Laseractive fan who was sure of the same sorts of things. Sometimes you have to know a little more to fully realize how little you know.

Black Tiger: unless there is some hidden developer functions no retail game has used (possible) then no. All Laseractive games are 12" Laservision discs with special game code snuck into the digital audio tracks. Of course, even if a normal-ish CDROM2 could activate LD functions there's no way to burn LD video onto a CD so there wouldn't be any point.
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nectarsis

someone was selling a LD duplicator(?) and like 150 discs recently...no one had the room....I think Beemer was part of the convo on FB
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SignOfZeta

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xcrement5x

There was a guy that had supposedly written something to dump the Mega-LD code portions but I never heard much about it beyond him asking for people to send him discs so he could back them up.  Seemed a bit fishy to me so I just wrote it off as another scam.
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SignOfZeta

A guy named Happycube on the LDDB forum has written software to decode the raw LD waveform from modified players or ones with the EFM port. He's isolated every aspect of the signal of movie LDs analog and digital as far as I know. I'm pretty sure getting the game data would be possible. You'd have to know exactly how it's snuck into the digital audio tracks but after that it should be easy.
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xcrement5x

Finally got my LD copy so I made a mashup of the two:

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It's a smaller 8" LD with all the content on it, but the sleeve is pretty basic compared to the VHS which is kind of a shame.
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I don't know, I kinda like the plain packaging.  It keeps the half science teacher / half 70s porn actor a secret until it's too late to decide you shouldn't watch it.
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Quote from: guest on 04/14/2017, 04:24 PMI don't know, I kinda like the plain packaging.  It keeps the half science teacher / half 70s porn actor a secret until it's too late to decide you shouldn't watch it.
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Quote from: pc_kwajalein on 04/14/2017, 04:33 PM
Quote from: guest on 04/14/2017, 04:24 PMI don't know, I kinda like the plain packaging.  It keeps the half science teacher / half 70s porn actor a secret until it's too late to decide you shouldn't watch it.
:lol: Post of the week.  :lol:
Hahahhahajjaj.

Also, some of the scenes in this promo are genuinely disturbing...what alien implants are the dude's legs?

Disturbing.
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MrMarth

Not my kind of thing, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
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TheClash603

99.9% of the time I don't get jealous of other peoples' stuff they post about.  This is the 0.1% of the time I do.

BigusSchmuck

Makes you wonder how many 8" LDs were made.

TheClash603

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 04/15/2017, 12:44 PMMakes you wonder how many 8" LDs were made.
In Japan they seem pretty common actually, I never really see them in the states though.

SignOfZeta

There were shitloads in Japan. They'd give them away as preorder bonus for things even.

The last LDs made were 8"-ers for jukeboxes. They made those up until...I want to say at least 2006. There were tons of karaoke ones too.
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crazydean

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/15/2017, 11:54 PMThere were shitloads in Japan. They'd give them away as preorder bonus for things even.

The last LDs made were 8"-ers for jukeboxes. They made those up until...I want to say at least 2006. There were tons of karaoke ones too.
How does an LD jukebox work? Does it include video or is it just another way to store music?

gojira1954

I've only got one 8" LD, a promo from the jp twin peaks box
I don't miss my LA, all the 'games' I had were wack plus it is was a pretty poor LD player :/

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SignOfZeta

Quote from: crazydean on 04/16/2017, 03:05 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/15/2017, 11:54 PMThere were shitloads in Japan. They'd give them away as preorder bonus for things even.

The last LDs made were 8"-ers for jukeboxes. They made those up until...I want to say at least 2006. There were tons of karaoke ones too.
How does an LD jukebox work? Does it include video or is it just another way to store music?
Yeah, they had a screen on them.
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xcrement5x

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/15/2017, 11:54 PMThere were shitloads in Japan. They'd give them away as preorder bonus for things even.

The last LDs made were 8"-ers for jukeboxes. They made those up until...I want to say at least 2006. There were tons of karaoke ones too.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of the karaoke ones around.  I only have a couple myself (now including this one), and like the Zoom promo.  At least regular LDs can fit in boxes for records and stuff, these I just stick on the bookshelf.
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Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/10/2018, 02:09 PMhttps://m.ebay.com/itm/Time-gal-Arcade-machine-Laseractive/302632613457?hash=item46764f3651:g:9HUAAOSwgLlafNrY

This is a pretty nice custom cabinet, figured I'd share.
Wow, that is pretty awesome looking.  Can't imagine the time and money put into it though!
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Quote from: guest on 02/10/2018, 03:57 PM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/10/2018, 02:09 PMhttps://m.ebay.com/itm/Time-gal-Arcade-machine-Laseractive/302632613457?hash=item46764f3651:g:9HUAAOSwgLlafNrY

This is a pretty nice custom cabinet, figured I'd share.
Wow, that is pretty awesome looking.  Can't imagine the time and money put into it though!
Considering what the game alone usually sells for and the price of a LA with a pax, basically the cab is free if it doesn't get bid up.

...dare someone to buy it, so I can play it.

xcrement5x

Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/11/2018, 02:39 AM
Quote from: guest on 02/10/2018, 03:57 PM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/10/2018, 02:09 PMhttps://m.ebay.com/itm/Time-gal-Arcade-machine-Laseractive/302632613457?hash=item46764f3651:g:9HUAAOSwgLlafNrY

This is a pretty nice custom cabinet, figured I'd share.
Wow, that is pretty awesome looking.  Can't imagine the time and money put into it though!
Considering what the game alone usually sells for and the price of a LA with a pax, basically the cab is free if it doesn't get bid up.

...dare someone to buy it, so I can play it.
But it says $1500, with "Reserve not met".  This makes me think the minimum price he'll probably let it go for is at least $2500, you could always ask.   
 
But yeah, LA + recapped MegaLD PAC + TimeGal is probably $1500 alone at this point.
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turboswimbz

If not mistaken that Ebay belongs to a member (luker) here . . . although I can't place it. maybe not

Still it's done pretty nicely.  If I had the extra time and money this is close enough to pick up.
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NecroPhile

Neato cab, but you'd really have to have a hard-on for Time Gal to want a dedicated box for a console game.
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Been watching that time gal since he listed it.  It's a good deal at $1.5k.  If I was anywhere near PA, I would probably get it.

Purple1308

So can the pioneer laser active tg16 add on play supercd or do you need a system card still.

Mathius

Quote from: Purple1308 on 02/21/2018, 08:18 PMSo can the pioneer laser active tg16 add on play supercd or do you need a system card still.
I believe you still need the System Cards to supply the Bios. Don't quote me though.

Purple1308

Quote from: Mathius on 02/21/2018, 09:12 PM
Quote from: Purple1308 on 02/21/2018, 08:18 PMSo can the pioneer laser active tg16 add on play supercd or do you need a system card still.
I believe you still need the System Cards to supply the Bios. Don't quote me though.
Hmm i know it plays normal cd but i dont know about super cd

TheClash603

It plays Super CDs, the N10 is basically a Turbo Duo in a small and very heavy metal rectangle case.  You will need the Arcade Card for the games that require it.

xcrement5x

Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/21/2018, 11:17 PMIt plays Super CDs, the N10 is basically a Turbo Duo in a small and very heavy metal rectangle case.  You will need the Arcade Card for the games that require it.
Yeah, it would be cool if they had made a SuperGrafx PAC or something as well. 
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They should've given 'em the SGX goodies to justify the pac's cost compared to a Duo.
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: guest on 02/22/2018, 02:11 PMThey should've given 'em the SGX goodies to justify the pac's cost compared to a Duo.
So you're saying the ability to play Quiz Econosaurus wasn't enough added value? :P
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TheClash603

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 02/22/2018, 02:25 PM
Quote from: guest on 02/22/2018, 02:11 PMThey should've given 'em the SGX goodies to justify the pac's cost compared to a Duo.
So you're saying the ability to play Quiz Econosaurus wasn't enough added value? :P
It was good enough for me.  Millennials are too needy.

DragonmasterDan

Quote from: TheClash603 on 02/22/2018, 06:25 PMIt was good enough for me.  Millennials are too needy.
If only they had played Quiz Econosaurus they'd know more about Economics so they'd be less needy. And they'd know more about Engrish.
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