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HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992

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incrediblehark

03/15/2012, 11:47 AM
Here's the article I have, per request of SuperGrafx16. Article courtesy of VideoGames & Computer Entertainment, October 1992:

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SuperGrafx16

#1
03/15/2012, 01:59 PM
Thank you very much  :mrgreen:

Arkhan Asylum

#2
03/15/2012, 02:18 PM
holy shit Duke Togo!
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

SuperGrafx16

#3
03/15/2012, 04:02 PM
I truly, truly, really very much wish that IronMan / Tetsujin / HuC62 had been released (along with Hi-Ten Bomberman) instead of the PC-FX.

The two hardwares are different, IronMan would've been more powerful.

Nando

#4
03/15/2012, 04:27 PM
did any of that tech ever go to the Dreamcast?

NecroPhile

#5
03/15/2012, 04:41 PM
With the exception of the CPU, that sounds like a PC-FX.  The 6261, 6271, 6272, and 6230 are all in the PC-FX, the v810 is more powerful, and neither has dedicated 3D hardware, so I'm not sure why you'd think the prototype would be more capable.
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SuperGrafx16

#6
03/15/2012, 04:52 PM
Quote from: guest on 03/15/2012, 04:41 PMWith the exception of the CPU, that sounds like a PC-FX.  The 6261, 6271, 6272, and 6230 are all in the PC-FX, the v810 is more powerful, and neither has dedicated 3D hardware, so I'm not sure why you'd think the prototype would be more capable.
I'll accept that I'm mistaken, then.

SignOfZeta

#7
03/15/2012, 05:46 PM
Quote from: Nando on 03/15/2012, 04:27 PMdid any of that tech ever go to the Dreamcast?
Maybe the plastic to make the case?
IMG

SuperGrafx16

#8
03/15/2012, 06:11 PM
Quote from: Nando on 03/15/2012, 04:27 PMdid any of that tech ever go to the Dreamcast?
Nope, Dreamcast/Katana was designed by SEGA of Japan, Hitachi, ImgTec, Microsoft.
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Only the graphics chip was manufactured by NEC, who also fabbed the GameCube and Wii GPUs.

Tatsujin

#9
03/15/2012, 07:09 PM Last Edit: 03/15/2012, 07:11 PM by Tatsujin
Its funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.
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#10
03/15/2012, 09:17 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/15/2012, 07:09 PMIts funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.
LOL, I don't get it.

CrackTiger

#11
03/16/2012, 01:22 PM
Quote from: SuperGrafx16 on 03/15/2012, 09:17 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/15/2012, 07:09 PMIts funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.
LOL, I don't get it.
Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.
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SuperGrafx16

#12
03/16/2012, 06:15 PM
Quote from: guest on 03/16/2012, 01:22 PM
Quote from: SuperGrafx16 on 03/15/2012, 09:17 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/15/2012, 07:09 PMIts funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.
LOL, I don't get it.
Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.
Bwahahahaha ^__^

incrediblehark

#13
03/17/2012, 12:31 AM
I always wondered if that blue thing on the end of the board was a hucard connector, although I remember hearing that there's something on the pcfx that looks like it could take a hucard (haven't looked myself) but doesn't play the hucards, of course.

SamIAm

#14
03/17/2012, 12:47 AM
I wonder how much a PCE CPU cost in 1994? That seems to be the only major ingredient missing in order to achieve backwards compatibility. 3D capabilities would have been better, but b/c still would have been a major enticement to buy the system. Can you imagine how in-demand the PC-FX would be now if it played PCE-CD games with better loading times and an overall more reliable drive? And S-video?

Tatsujin

#15
03/17/2012, 03:15 AM
Quote from: SuperGrafx16 on 03/16/2012, 06:15 PM
Quote from: guest on 03/16/2012, 01:22 PM
Quote from: SuperGrafx16 on 03/15/2012, 09:17 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/15/2012, 07:09 PMIts funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.
LOL, I don't get it.
Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.
Bwahahahaha ^__^
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SuperGrafx16

#16
03/17/2012, 05:48 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 07/22/2010, 09:28 PM/pc98steamengine.png

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I think I get it now, this^pretty much says it all?

Nando

#17
03/19/2012, 09:23 AM
well shit...wow.

awesome history bit.

SuperGrafx16

#18
03/24/2012, 06:50 PM
I found more:

/hudson1t.jpg
/hudson2.jpg
/hudson3.jpg

SignOfZeta

#19
03/24/2012, 08:38 PM
Quote from: guest on 03/16/2012, 01:22 PM
Quote from: SuperGrafx16 on 03/15/2012, 09:17 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/15/2012, 07:09 PMIts funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.
LOL, I don't get it.
Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.
Just to avoid confusion here, they named their entire company after the trains. There is no official relation between Hudson the software company and Hudson the train company. The dudes who formed Hudson the software company were just massive fanboys. Neither is there a relation between either company and the Galaxy Express 999 (C6248, movie version and C6250, TV version).
IMG

incrediblehark

#20
03/24/2012, 09:49 PM
nice, a more up close picture!

SuperGrafx16

#21
03/24/2012, 11:15 PM
No problemo :D

TheClash603

#22
03/25/2012, 02:57 PM
What benefit would there have been hooking a Turbo Duo to a Mac?  I don't get it...

Arkhan Asylum

#23
03/25/2012, 03:22 PM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/25/2012, 02:57 PMWhat benefit would there have been hooking a Turbo Duo to a Mac?  I don't get it...
cross development, use the turbob as a scsidrive, something like that maybe.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

TheClash603

#24
03/25/2012, 03:29 PM
Quote from: guest on 03/25/2012, 03:22 PM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/25/2012, 02:57 PMWhat benefit would there have been hooking a Turbo Duo to a Mac?  I don't get it...
cross development, use the turbob as a scsidrive, something like that maybe.
I put a little more thought into it, maybe networked games?  That would've been pretty badass actually, though I assume that the amount of us with Turbo Duos and Macs and 56k modems to still play these networked games in 2012 would be pretty slim.

nat

#25
03/25/2012, 06:23 PM
Networked games, maybe, but probably not. You have to have the Duo on the desk next to the Mac to hook it up via the SCSI port. I'm not sure what you'd need a 56k modem for in this scenario. So say you had someone playing on the Mac, and you on the Duo one of these networked games. You'd already be sitting next to each other anyway, why not just whip out a second controller and both play the game on the Duo? No, I don't think this was the answer.

I think the idea was more along the lines of using the TurboDuo as a CD-ROM drive for the Mac. You have to remember that back in those days, CD-ROMs were not yet being shipped as standard equipment in new computers.

On the other hand, every Mac built from 1987 onward (until the late 90s) came with a SCSI port built-in.

TTi probably thought they could conceivably boost Duo unit sales if the Duo could also serve as an external CD-ROM drive for your home computer, as well.
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incrediblehark

#26
03/25/2012, 08:30 PM
From what I recall reading that was the plan, to double as an external cd rom drive for pc/mac. I think I have an ad somewhere mentioning this.

SignOfZeta

#27
03/25/2012, 09:55 PM
Yeah, the Duo was one of the cheapest CDROM drives out there, possibly THE cheapest. This adaptor would turn the system into a genaric CDROM drive. I'm pretty sure someone on this forum had a prototype.
IMG

roflmao

#28
03/26/2012, 12:31 AM
I remember reading about that adapter bitd as well.  I was really looking forward to getting one!  I can't imagine using a 1x drive nowadays. :O

nat

#29
03/26/2012, 02:06 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 03/25/2012, 09:55 PMYeah, the Duo was one of the cheapest CDROM drives out there, possibly THE cheapest. This adaptor would turn the system into a genaric CDROM drive. I'm pretty sure someone on this forum had a prototype.
Yeah, there have been a few floating around over the past decade or so. They definitely exist, they just never made it to "mass" production.
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SuperGrafx16

#30
03/29/2012, 03:12 PM
After all this time, it's hard to believe that the Tetsujin/IronMan of 1992 was NOT more powerful than the PC-FX of 1994.

Tatsujin

#31
03/29/2012, 09:14 PM
They just fiddled around with it for a way too long time.
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SuperGrafx16

#32
04/01/2012, 12:49 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/29/2012, 09:14 PMThey just fiddled around with it for a way too long time.
I see.
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