Turbo Fest (VGS) 2012

[DragonmasterDan]

Also, did any of you gents try the AMAZING German place down the street?

A few people went on Friday night, but they're still waiting to get their food.

[Mathius]

Also, did any of you gents try the AMAZING German place down the street?

A few people went on Friday night, but they're still waiting to get their food.

haha! I would love to try it though.

[DragonmasterDan]

Also, did any of you gents try the AMAZING German place down the street?

A few people went on Friday night, but they're still waiting to get their food.

haha! I would love to try it though.

You would have had to come on Monday then.

[chany60126]

Also, did any of you gents try the AMAZING German place down the street?

A few people went on Friday night, but they're still waiting to get their food.

haha! I would love to try it though.

hehe. That restaurant, Schnitzel Platz, does look neat. They were featured on a local tv show called Check Please earlier in the year. They serve beer in a large boot shaped glass.

[DragonmasterDan]

hehe. That restaurant, Schnitzel Platz, does look neat. They were featured on a local tv show call called Check Please earlier in the year. They serve beer in a large boot shaped glass.

They also take 5-7 hours to prepare your meal.

Added in edit: Obviously I'm very slightly exagerrating. But I had an experience there where it was around 3 hours from arrival to when the entree was served and stops by the waiter less frequently than every hour prior.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

hehe. That restaurant, Schnitzel Platz, does look neat. They were featured on a local tv show call called Check Please earlier in the year. They serve beer in a large boot shaped glass.

They also take 5-7 hours to prepare your meal.

Added in edit: Obviously I'm very slightly exagerrating. But I had an experience there where it was around 3 hours from arrival to when the entree was served and stops by the waiter less frequently than every hour prior.

I still say you give it another shot.  Especially with some turbob brethren to chat about gaming if the wait is too long. 

I've been there twice before (VGS 2010 and 2011) and NEVER had that problem with the place.   Food was AMAZING, Beer was epic, and the service was top notch.

Dan, I will kidnap you and bring you there!!!  

[Mathius]

hehe. That restaurant, Schnitzel Platz, does look neat. They were featured on a local tv show call called Check Please earlier in the year. They serve beer in a large boot shaped glass.

They also take 5-7 hours to prepare your meal.

Added in edit: Obviously I'm very slightly exagerrating. But I had an experience there where it was around 3 hours from arrival to when the entree was served and stops by the waiter less frequently than every hour prior.

I still say you give it another shot.  Especially with some turbob brethren to chat about gaming if the wait is too long. 

I've been there twice before (VGS 2010 and 2011) and NEVER had that problem with the place.   Food was AMAZING, Beer was epic, and the service was top notch.

Dan, I will kidnap you and bring you there!!!   

I'll help.

[Ash]

HAD A WONDERFUL TIME CATCHING UP WITH EVERYONE AGAIN

[Mathius]

HAD A WONDERFUL TIME CATCHING UP WITH EVERYONE AGAIN

Like rolfmao said...it was like being in a virtual chatbox. Always good times.

[Keranu]

Sorry I wasn't able to make it (again!) this year, guys! My car had no brakes at all and needs a tow to the repair shop... I really need to get another car!

[NightWolve]

Oh yeah? How much are you willing to spend? Brake line rupture, no brake pressure at all ? If you're not too far from me, I might be willing to fix it. I'd have to take a look and depending on the problem, determine what parts to buy, head to Autozone/Advance Auto Parts, have you buy the parts, come back, do the job on the spot, and charge you for labor. I've done brake jobs for my neighbors, brake line/pipe ruptures (one cause) or leaks at either the caliper piston or the cylinder in the case of rear drum designs. Also changed two transmissions with a freelance mechanic that I learned from for a Nissan Sentra and a Toyota Corolla.

Anyway, lemme know if you're interested. I'll take that tow money from ya instead! ;) If you need the car back in service right away, then a freelance repair offer like this is not the way to go, but yeah. Offer is there. Thing is, if your car is old and the brake lines are garbage (rusted to shit), full replacement to give you security is not fun having to do on the street where it's parked, but it's doable. If a caliper is leaking, it's gotta be replaced, that's gonna be more money and we can change the pads while we're at it to tighten the brakes up a bit - pipes are very cheap, but gotta be bent into place, cut and used with compression unions.

[BlueBMW]

Sorry I wasn't able to make it (again!) this year, guys! My car had no brakes at all and needs a tow to the repair shop... I really need to get another car!

Let one of us know and we'll come pick you up if there's an issue

[roflmao]

Guys:

Here's the group shot from dinner - tried to enhance it a little bit as it was really dark at that point. I believe this was just about the whole PCEFX crew that was there sans maybe one or two people. I'm on the far left in the red shirt.

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                     DragonmasterDan     Roflmao      Chop5
                     Elseven                                      chany60126
                     tggodfrey                                   Mathius
                     tggodfrey's woman                      Ash
                     jeffhlewis                                    BlueBMW

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Edited to add forgotten names.

[tggodfrey]

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[tggodfrey]

L7 name was Josh (thanks Chany) and Tggodfrey woman is Jessica...lol

It really was chatbox in real life.  We need to do this more often.  Maybe once a month or every couple months get together at someones house for Pizza and a night of gaming.

[chany60126]

That L7 guy's username is actually Elseven. His real name is Josh. He is the R-Type champ from the Turbo Fest I did back in 2010.

[roflmao]

L7 name was Josh (thanks Chany) and Tggodfrey woman is Jessica...lol

It really was chatbox in real life.  We need to do this more often.  Maybe once a month or every couple months get together at someones house for Pizza and a night of gaming.

Thanks for reminding me of the forgotten names.

I'd be totally down for a more regular meetup, if it wasn't so far away. 

I'm going to try to organize a get-together down here, once I return from my trip to NY next month.

[Opethian]

where is down here?

[Mathius]

where is down here?

Beamer mentioned something in the North Carolina area.

[BlueBMW]

Yeah it seems like somewhere in NC is our best bet.  If you want to come ope, just drop by my place on the way to make it an easier trip.

[turbokon]

I'm down even if you'll ain't Asian;)

North Carolina is almost a 20hrs drive from where I'm at. Some place closer perhaps?? 10 to 12 hrs is much easier for me to do.

[alexsduo]

It was really nice meeting some of you, and seeing some of you all again.  One of these summits, I am actually going to play some turbobs...

[JoshTurboTrollX]

We should set something up for a Saturday of Pizza places and game shopping in Chicagoland in September or October!

[Mathius]

It was really nice meeting some of you, and seeing some of you all again.  One of these summits, I am actually going to play some turbobs...

Good to see you again too, Alex. I am enjoying Sinistron!

[DragonmasterDan]

It was really nice meeting some of you, and seeing some of you all again.  One of these summits, I am actually going to play some turbobs...

Have your wife watch your vendor booth and hang with us next time :-D

[alexsduo]

Can't trust her to do so, she would sell everything for $2 just so it is out of the house

[chany60126]

Then just take a year off from selling and just chill with us.

[Sparky]

Guys:

Here's the group shot from dinner - tried to enhance it a little bit as it was really dark at that point. I believe this was just about the whole PCEFX crew that was there sans maybe one or two people. I'm on the far left in the red shirt.

Back of Table

                     DragonmasterDan     Roflmao      Chop5
                     Elseven                                      chany60126
                     tggodfrey                                   Mathius
                     tggodfrey's woman                      Ash
                     jeffhlewis                                    BlueBMW

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Edited to add forgotten names.

nice to get some faces for those i have not seen, i bet it was a good time with you bunch and holy shit i can almost make out chops

[Opethian]

yea beamerknox  is a good midway point

[alexsduo]

I will have to do that Chany ...

It is fun having a table tho...

Maybe we need our own winter show?!

[DragonmasterDan]

I will have to do that Chany ...

It is fun having a table tho...

Maybe we need our own winter show?!

Or just do what Terry discussed and maybe do a meet up at GGA and all have dinner sometime.

[chany60126]

Here are some pics of the trip to the arcade and the show:








Battle Lode Runner Champ: BlueBMW

Bomberman 94 Champ: BlueBMW

Sidearms Champ: 328,920 ?? 

[chany60126]

Here are some short videos of the
Battle Lode Runner tournament:

Bomberman 94 tournament:

[Ash]

Good Pictures Chany

[jeffhlewis]

Thought I was flicking the camera off there for a sec, haha. Galloping Ghost is f'ing amazing - I've always wanted to go there but just never made the trip. We should go there many many more times; it was a blast!

[hizaygizirlz]

Sweet that was my victory in the bomberman video.  If I have kids they can look at it and be proud.  BMW's tournament winning shot was awesome though I wish somebody would have got that.

[BlueBMW]

That was an epic shot...

It involved dropping a bomb, kicking it from one end of the board to the other... then watching it explode and the very last square of fire catching hizay some 7 squares from the bomb.

[turbokon]

Thanks for uploading the pics and the video's Chany. Looks like it was a lot of fun. I'm definitely going next year. BTW what nationality are you chany if you don't mind me asking. Sounds Cambodian, I'm Cambodian:)

[Mathius]

Did anyone find a copy of Captain Silver for the Master System in with their stuff? I am missing the copy I bought at the show.  This seems to be a running theme with me lately.  

[Bernie]

Did anyone find a copy of Captain Silver for the Master System in with their stuff? I am missing the copy I bought at the show.  This seems to be a running theme with me lately. 

damnit man..  didnt you lose something last time there was a show?  lol

[Ash]

Did anyone find a copy of Captain Silver for the Master System in with their stuff? I am missing the copy I bought at the show.  This seems to be a running theme with me lately. 

You lost something atthis show too? Geez.

[roflmao]

Oh, man. That's no good.  Hopefully it'll show up.  Yesterday I went to check out Lords of the Rising Sun (which I picked up at Turbo Fest) and couldn't find it.  I was afraid I left it at my friends house in WV.  But after a thorough scouring of my car, it appeared.  Maybe it's hiding somewhere in your car?  I hope you find it soon.

[NecroPhile]

Why does Bimmer look so bummed out at winning the Battle Lode Runner competition yet happy about winning the Bomberman '94 one?

[BlueBMW]

Bad timing of the picture hehe.

[Mathius]

Did anyone find a copy of Captain Silver for the Master System in with their stuff? I am missing the copy I bought at the show.  This seems to be a running theme with me lately. 

damnit man..  didnt you lose something last time there was a show?  lol

Yeah my Duo controller got mixed up with someone else's stuff at MGC.

Did anyone find a copy of Captain Silver for the Master System in with their stuff? I am missing the copy I bought at the show.  This seems to be a running theme with me lately. 

You lost something atthis show too? Geez.

I remember putting it in my Neo Geo box right after I bought it. It was the first thing I purchased and I didn't remove it for any reason. This may be a case where something was stolen instead of being lost. I am ruling everything else out before I start shouting "Thief" at anybody though. ...Nobody here, of course.

[NightWolve]

EDIT (11/3/2012): tggodfrey apologized and I've long since cooled off since this happened, so bygones be bygones.

Obviously this guy really pissed me off and this response got enormously longer than I ever thought that it would, so fair warning and my apologies in advance! Gargantuan (not often one gets to use that word, is it?) rant coming... Man, why is it that my most voluminous writing is inspired by someone or something that pisses me off?   I genuinely hate that...

Becuase of how bad brake line failures can get, make sure an actual mechanic does the work.  Sorry to go off topic here.

I have had brake line issues come into the shop that started simple and ended up in complete replacement and nothing more than an agonizing headache.  Do not take it to someone who claims to knwo how to fix cars unless they were an actual mechanic.
FWIW: Leaking calipers can be rebuilt (parts are only Appx 15.00) but I guess parts replacers dont know how anymore.  Compression unions are just future failures, do it right or dont do it.

Woah, woah, sir, excuse me, I'm sorry, but we're gonna have to get into this now! You portrayed me as an incompetent and someone that would risk his life so you're gonna get a response and not in a PM! First off, I worked as an assistant to a freelance auto mechanic for several years that runs a business out of his garage (has so for 15+ years). Freelance mechanics that do that are very popular in Chicago and that's where I got my mechanic experience from, even did 2 successful transmission changes with him. I did plenty of brake work with him for his customers, and for my neighbors independently (which he considered "stealing" his customers), in addition to many other things... It is from that where I grew to love working on cars for a time!

You dismissed me and made assumptions without probing for any further info on my background and experience, attacking my knowledge based on possible courses of action that I volunteered. Cutting a section of pipe and using compression unions with a newly cut pipe on a long run of old pipe underneath the car is a temporary fix - It's done when one feels that the situation is so bad that starting a full replacement of that line will cause the gas lines to start leaking as well from the movement that'll occur, resulting in the need for all lines (pipes, same thing) having to be replaced, something that I wouldn't volunteer to do on the spot wherever his car is located - it's more grunt work than I would want, so I would just get the lines re-pressurized and tell him to take it to a shop for full replacement this way, at least saving him money on the tow truck cost! Tow truck is maybe ~$100-$150, so for that work I'd ask for say $50 bucks. So, your "do it right or don't it" is not applicable here - I had every intention of making it clear to him that it would be a temporary fix and that he'd need a full line replacement, but at least now he'd be able to drive the car to a mechanic shop, rather than call a tow truck to get it there!!

My car had to have a full line replacement which I eventually did myself (the 3 gas-related lines as well, 18 years of being rusted to shit at that point!). But before that, I had a rupture because I wasn't looking at the road and I slammed the brakes hard almost crashing, I stopped in time, but I caused a rupture. I made it back home by driving slow, pumping the brakes and using the mechanical parking brake. The freelance mechanic I mentioned helped me fix it with the compression union solution because I needed the car back in service right away. But he made it VERY clear to me that that was a temporary measure and given the massive rust and corrosion that all my lines had, I should get the full replacement done the sooner the better. The clerk at the Auto Parts store where I bought the parts from ALSO made it VERY clear to me that if the unions are not properly and fully tightened, the line will pop again at that point and that they're not as strong in general obviously! So, I already knew this and that's exactly the same conversation I would've had with Keranu if the problem was underneath the car with the long line runs. I haven't looked at it, so I don't know, neither do I know the age of the car to rule that out on the spot. But, I can still safely get him to a shop without a tow truck if this is the issue!

You essentially seized upon my mentioning of the compression union deal to paint me as dangerous, or far too risky and to bolster your point that only "real" mechanics can do this, you further seized upon my possible solution of a full caliper replacement by attempting to show that I'm someone who doesn't know how to just buy a caliper kit, pop the caliper piston out and replace the seal/bushing (which any grease monkey with some experience could do!). So, let's expand on why it's better to replace the whole caliper (my solution) versus keeping the old caliper and just replacing the seal/bushing (your solution), shall we? The new caliper solution has the following advantages: 1) Factory fresh expensive caliper grease fully spread out on new, non-rusted slider bolts, 2) New, non-rusted, non-seized bleeder valve, so guaranteed not to have it break on you when it's time to bleed the air out, 3) new seal/bushing obviously, 4) Lifetime warranty for as long as you own the car from the Auto Parts store, meaning, you get full, free replacement if you have a problem with it ever again! (I don't get that from "real" mechanics like you, do I?), 5) Overall security in one of the most important systems of the vehicle, the one that is able to stop it!

You listed the approximate price for a caliper repair kit at $15 (new seals/bushing), well, the calipers for my car at Autozone cost $35 with core deduction, meaning, you bring the old one in for recycling and you won't have to pay an extra $20 bucks, otherwise it's $55 bucks. So, for $35 bucks, you get peace of mind for all the ~5 reasons I listed above (for an extra $20 bucks in this case relative to the $15 you cited), and since I'm freelancing it, what I charge in labor would still be far cheaper than what YOU would charge at $75-$100/hr at an auto-repair shop! He would still pay far more with "real" mechanics who would only resort to changing the caliper piston seal than he would with me getting him a whole new caliper with all the advantages listed above. You listed the $15 bucks as a cheaper solution, but NOT when it comes to the gouging rates that you "real" mechanics would charge for the labor of changing the seal and then bleeding all 4 wheels!! What about the slider bolts seizing if you're gonna leave an 8+ year caliper in place (do you folks in principle refresh the caliper grease or only if there was a seizure described to you by the customer?) and what about a rusted bleeder valve seizing and breaking when you try to bleed it?? Nah, sorry, and the cheaper solution in your case is still more expensive than when it comes to freelance mechanics which is why they are so popular in the city of Chicago. It's not hard to beat your gouging rates for labor and parts combined by 40%-70% (and we're buying the parts at retail prices, don't have your wholesale price advantage)!! Thus, you folks have to resort to smearing freelance mechanics as dangerous, risky, not properly trained, not "real" mechanics, given how much business they've cost you!!

The last brake job that I did was a case of the rear brake shoes having been fully worn out that the piston popped out of the cylinder enough past the seal (happened to me too before I knew what was what) on the passenger side, so naturally he lost all brake pressure - it wasn't a pipe rupture... Another possibility in Keranu's case and very easy to handle, although somewhat time consuming if you wanna put quality work into it. The customer had purchased the brake shoes so I went to work on it, but I lost a lot of time trying to make the shoes that he bought fit the situation; they just didn't match the originals. Finally, I determined he was given the wrong ones so I had to drive to Autozone, buy the right ones and also buy a spring set - I always like to use new springs if available. The Autozone ones matched the originals perfectly, so problem solved, they were only $20 and the spring set $10. When I was done, with the large size brake fluid bottle I bought, I fully flushed/bled the system. Can't remember if I bought 2 bottles for him cause given how old the car was, I'll fully flush the old, dirty fluid out since usually nobody else ever has. Anyway, I charged him $60 for the labor which was a pretty damn good deal I regretted, but last I checked, he hasn't crashed and burned as a result of my obviously, risky, untrustworthy workmanship. Neither has the other neighbor whose brakes I did, nor any of the customers of the freelance mechanic that I used to work with. At least, not that I ever heard from through him.

Let's talk about what "real" mechanics like you have done for me in the past, shall we? You revealed you're an auto mechanic after all and you smeared me as risky, dangerous, lacking in proper knowledge to do the job competently, so I'll return the favor as far as smearing/generalizing you and your profession goes! We have a Turbo Gouger thread on this board, and you know what? I'm gonna put you right in there! THAT'S RIGHT! That's what I'm gonna do! EVERY last one of you "real" mechanics has ripped me off my entire life and I didn't get the "security" for that extra dough either in all cases! There is not a single case that I can cite of genuine customer satisfaction. I can drive around a 5-10 mile radius and get a difference of up to $100 bucks in price quotes for a repair job, not very comforting when prices can vary to such an extent...

In 2004, both of my front calipers were replaced for $270 bucks at a nearby repair shop! I told them something was wrong, noisy or flaky. I assume the aholes threw in new brake pads, but I'm not so sure, but let's say that they did. I'm sure they were the economy brand (retail $20) and not the silver ($35) or ceramic gold brand (retail $50) - nothing in the receipt tells me anything specific. Alright, so 4-5 years later, while I was leaving from the parking lot of one of my favorite diners, I started the car and tried to back up, but I couldn't move... I press on the gas down a little more, I keep trying, still stuck and next thing I know smoke is coming out of the front driver's side wheel and a terrible stank! What do you know, the caliper seized on the slider bolts and I can't break free!!! So what do you think, guy, that strike you as normal after a 5 year old caliper installed by "real" mechanics like you would seize up on me ? What if I was in the middle of the street in traffic and not in a parking lot? Think those aholes relied on the manufacturer to grease the caliber bolts and didn't bother or what ?? What exactly did I get for that $270 besides being gouged ?

I noticed that when I first purchased calipers from Autozone for only $35 each (with core deduction of bringing in the old one), they'd sell you the caliper grease in little separate packets, meaning the manufacturer relied on the installer to do it. But, years later, when I used my warranty and got free replacements, the caliper grease was properly in place and spread around better than I could ever do it, meaning, the manufacturer decided since there are ahole mechanics who don't bother, THEY probably should do it and just factor in the price of the unit accordingly since caliper grease is one of the more expensive types of greases given its high heat resistance. So $70 bucks for new calipers, $50 for the best pads on the market, that's $120 compared to the $270 you "real" mechanics charged me, a savings of $150 and that's at retail prices; if I bought the parts over the Internet, I could do even better, but the lifetime warranty and ease of just driving to any Autozone store is useful!

How about another? Care to listen? So, my alternator comes to the end of its life, the car is acting funny, I think I lose power steering even then, but luckily there was a nearby repair shop as I'm leaving from my old job going home. They tell me my alternator is dead and needs to be replaced. The bill? $230 bucks. Alright I say, fine! I kinda have little choice since the battery is thus being drained and it wasn't fun driving it the way that I was. I can't exactly shop around so I am at their mercy, aren't I? A few years later, it died again and it nowhere near reached its supposed 40,000 mile lifespan because I've only put 37,000 miles on the car and the original lasted 3+ years since owning it. But this time, the manner in which it "died" was, shall we say, a little different. I start the car, it shuts off immediately with the engine shaking. I try again, same thing. Pop the hood, I can smell something in the alternator area. I keep starting the car, it's meeting resistance and I realize I have to press the gas to keep the engine from dying; suddenly I see a whole bunch of sparks flying from the alternator as it's breaking free!! Looks like it seized and caused a drag/resistance on the pulley hence why the engine would shut off in idle as you're starting it. I could've cut the belt alternatively. So now the car starts and I can drive, but no power steering. Luckily I was a block from home so I drive back slowly and I make it. Next day I ride my bike over to Advance Auto Parts and ask for an alternator. They have one in stock for my car. How much ? $100 bucks! That's right, $100... This then reminds me of how I paid $230 having done business with, you know, "real" mechanics at a repair shop... $130 in labor, wow! And yet, a monkey with some level of competence could do it. It's two bolts and plugging in the wiring cable... Adjusting for proper tension of the belt of course, but yeah...

One more for the road? How about paying $200 for an upgrade to the newer r134a refrigerant for my A/C when all he did is add an adapter (for $2-3 bucks) and a can of r134a (with Leak Seal) and years later finding out that I could've bought a r134a upgrade pack of 3 cans with dispenser and upgrade adapter for $30 bucks at Walmart and done it all myself??? Like I said, every last one of ya that I've done business with! "Real" Auto Mechanics are in the same gouging class as lawyers in my book, relying on peoples' ignorance and at times desperation to get as much money out of 'em as possible! Your "expertise", pretending like many of the jobs that you do requires the skill of an open heart surgeon, hasn't necessarily guaranteed safety and security either. In fact, you're lazy in doing the bare minimum to get the car functional again and get to the next customer! None of 'em ever told me how bad my brake and gas lines were underneath the car for all the times I'd bring it in for something else - they'd only address what I would bring to their attention at the time! Anyway, I'm not filling this page anymore. I have plenty more where this came from, though!!

Bottom line, sir, I wouldn't have offered to help him if I wasn't confident in my workmanship and would never put somebody's life at risk as you implied and as "real" professional mechanics like you have done for me in the past! Anyway, mission accomplished on your part, right? With the paranoia that you put forward as professionals like to do about freelancers in general, he certainly isn't gonna take me up on the offer now and I don't think I'm interested anymore either given the context of you turning my friendly gesture to help him into a "NOOOO, DOOON'T DDDDUUUUOOOO IT!!! DON'T DUO IT! DON'T YOU BELIEVE HIM!!..."

[NecroPhile]

To head off what might get real ugly, allow me to play wannabemoderator for a bit:

Too many words.

1)  There's no way for Terry to know your qualifications and he didn't accuse you of not knowing what you're doing; he just said to make sure it's done by someone qualified for the job.
2)  There was nothing in your post that implied that the brake line fix was meant to be temporary.  How was Terry to know that you'd explain it to Keranu?
3)  You're the one making broad accusations based on assumptions - not all professional mechanics are crooks, and I'm pretty sure Terry has a day job that doesn't involve wrenching cars.

[roflmao]

Wow.  Holy cow.  Where'd that come from!? 

[BlueBMW]

To head off what might get real ugly, allow me to play wannabemoderator for a bit:

Too many words.

1)  There's no way for Terry to know your qualifications and he didn't accuse you of not knowing what you're doing; he just said to make sure it's done by someone qualified for the job.
2)  There was nothing in your post that implied that the brake line fix was meant to be temporary.  How was Terry to know that you'd explain it to Keranu?
3)  You're the one making broad accusations based on assumptions - not all professional mechanics are crooks, and I'm pretty sure Terry has a day job that doesn't involve wrenching cars.

Thank you NecroPhile.  I too can see this getting really ugly, REALLY fast.  Ive met Terry, and hes a great guy.  O dont think he would intentionally insult someone he didnt know.  So I suspect there is just some misunderstanding and misread intents here.

That said, I am a professional Technician (we're not mechanics anymore!) and while I try and do my job honestly and well, there are those among my colleages that are not so moral in their work   Though O call) them out every chance I get!  (Even if the person happens to be my manager!

[hizaygizirlz]

It won't get out of hand no one is gonna read that.