Time to learn

[Duke.Togo]

OK, so I have mostly been lurking about, trying to learn as much as I can. I think it's time to get a plan in place.

This is what hardware I currently have:

US TG-16 with controller

PC Engine w/AV booster, multitap - no controller yet

My objective is to be able to play both Hu Card games and CD games. I plan on picking up a Turbo Everdrive for the Hu Card games.

So with my current setup, what would you recommend as the most cost efficient route?  When it comes to the CD setup I need guidance. Should I go with a Super CD for the PCE since I already have that unit? What is the one system card that will take care of all the games (or will I need several)?

Thanks in advance!

[turboswimbz]

Hmm at this point I'd suggest as your thinking and get the PCE super CD for both the ease and price based on what you have now.  

1. because the EDIT: Super CD* set up is bitchin' ( and a little more affordable since you've already got a start )
2. You could get an JP arcade DUO card and that should cover you [with no modification or converters],
  
The PCE duo is always a good way to go as well, but at this point getting a third system might be a little circumventing. the Duo arcade card however is fairly cheap as i said.

I know a lot of others here will be able to add a lot more than I can.

[Frank_fjs]

I think that the Super CD-ROM will be your best bet. They are prone to failing caps which results in low/no audio so be prepared to spend a little bit extra getting it recapped.

They're not exactly cheap but it will probably be the most cost efficient solution and definitely a lot less fuss than other solutions.

The Super CD-ROM systems already have System Card V.3 built in which will allow you to play nearly the entire library of CD games. The only exception being the 'Arcade' games which will require you to purchase an 'Arcade System Card Pro' at some point. They're a little bit pricey at around roughly $35-$60.

The briefcase setup is another option to consider. I don't think it will work out any cheaper getting a briefcase unit and getting a system card for the CD games is mandatory with this setup. Typically you'll need to locate the two items (the interface unit & CDROM unit) separately and the CDROM units are hard to find in working condition.

Your other option would be to sell everything you have and grab a region modded Duo console.

[Duke.Togo]

OK, so a person here is selling refurbed CD-ROM units. So after spending $60-$80 for that, I'd have to pick up the IFU-30 and an Arcade System Card Pro? If the card itself is $35-$60 (I would just go for a cheap loose one), what would a loose IFU-30 run me, and would that be all I needed?

Edit: I guess I need to understand system cards a little better. Is it that the best one will run all previous software, meaning that getting an Arcade System Card Pro will be the only card I needed to play any game? Or would I need it AND a V.3 card?

[Frank_fjs]

OK, so a person here is selling refurbed CD-ROM units. So after spending $60-$80 for that, I'd have to pick up the IFU-30 and an Arcade System Card Pro?

Yep, spot on.

If the card itself is $35-$60 (I would just go for a cheap loose one), what would a loose IFU-30 run me, and would that be all I needed?

I'd say roughly $30 give or take for an IFU-30, plus shipping. Only other thing you will need is a PSU for it.

Edit: I guess I need to understand system cards a little better. Is it that the best one will run all previous software, meaning that getting an Arcade System Card Pro will be the only card I needed to play any game? Or would I need it AND a V.3 card?

The Arcade System Card Pro is the only card you will ever need. It will run all versions of CD games.

There's 3 different formats of CD based games:

- Standard
- Super
- Arcade

The System Card V3 runs 'standard' and 'super' games but does not run 'arcade' games. The Arcade System card runs them all.

[Duke.Togo]

Excellent, thanks for the fast response. So let's say $70 for CD-ROM, $30 for IFU-30, and $40 for the card, so roughly $140. What would a Super CD set me back?

[turboswimbz]

That depends if you get the drive and briefcase then the arcade pro is needed to play ALL games or a V-3 to play most.  this will cost a bit more than if you go with the Super CD-rom add on then you can get an Arcade Duo card because the unit already has some built in ram.

You need to choose if your going to get the Briefcase unit or the Super CD-rom.

the briefcase will cost anywhere from $75 - $150

The CD rom add on will cost $100 - $200

the Pro card is about $35 - $60 as you said

the Duo Card is about $20 - $40

THE huge advantage to the Super is as frank said the V-3 card is built in and you can wait on the arcade card until you get an arcade game. The briefcase will require at least a V-3 Card to play most of the library of games.

both options are pretty reliable.

The only other way to go is to get a duo.  There is a reason many here like this option.  You can get a PCE duo for around $150 - $200 recapped and just add on a Duo card if you need to play arcade games.  Simply put it's cheap and user friendly.  The other set ups look cooler, but are a little more costly.   

[Frank_fjs]

Roughly $180-$200 for a Super-CD ROM. That's at the higher end of pricing though, you may be able to find a better price if you hunt around.

I think with shipping costs the briefcase setup may land more towards the $180 as well.

[MotherGunner]

I think Keith is selling the bare CD units still for about $80.

[turboswimbz]

Here's a possible lead on a briefcase, Could be the cheapest option (possibly with Kieth's drives)

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13704.0

[esteban]

QUESTION: What should I get?

ANSWER: SCD. 'Nuff said.

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[turboswimbz]

that is bitchin! just look at that. brings a tear at the beauty.

[Duke.Togo]

OK, since it seems sellers here may be able to source me a CD-ROM and briefcase, I'd just have to mess with the card. With the briefcase setup, I only need the one PSU, correct? Is it the same one that I am currently using for my PCE?

Also, does it have standard AV out, or a special cable? That is one thing I like about the AV booster.

Thanks for all the help. I have a pretty big collection, but this is definitely the most complicated hardware choices I've ever run into.

[turboswimbz]

the unit has AV out - on the side IIRC.  not sure on the PSU. but pretty sure the unit has it's own.

[Frank_fjs]

Only one PSU is required for the interface unit but it is different to your current PC Engine PSU. As mentioned the interface unit provides AV output as standard.

[Duke.Togo]

OK, so I have a solid plan in mind, now to figure out where to gather the pieces. Much appreciation!

[BigusSchmuck]

OK, so I have a solid plan in mind, now to figure out where to gather the pieces. Much appreciation!

I'll vouch for Keith Courage as well. He does stellar work and if you are lucky he may have some units already recapped for you! If there is some pce games you are looking for in particular I have a few looseys I can let go for cheap. PM me for more details.

[Duke.Togo]

OK, so it I'm going the CD-ROM route and seem to have that locked down. If anyone can point me towards an affordable IFU-30, controller, and Arcade System Card Pro let me know. I'm in no crazy hurry, and I'm not looking to break the bank.

[Duke.Togo]

A little update. I received my CD-ROM² from Keith Courage (thanks!) and it looks great. It tests well on its own. An IFU-30 is on its way and should be here in a few days. I've got a line on a controller and Arcade Card Pro, so it's slowly coming together

[turboswimbz]

A little update. I received my CD-ROM² from Keith Courage (thanks!) and it looks great. It tests well on its own. An IFU-30 is on its way and should be here in a few days. I've got a line on a controller and Arcade Card Pro, so it's slowly coming together

CONGRATS! post a picture of that sweet setup when you get it all together!

[JoshTurboTrollX]

A little update. I received my CD-ROM² from Keith Courage (thanks!) and it looks great. It tests well on its own. An IFU-30 is on its way and should be here in a few days. I've got a line on a controller and Arcade Card Pro, so it's slowly coming together

CONGRATS! post a picture of that sweet setup when you get it all together!

Now sell all that crap and get a Duo R. 

lol, j/k

[Duke.Togo]

OK, so the final items I needed to get up and playing came in today:


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and completes the setup:


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Popped in some Ninja Ryukenden and Rondo of Blood and had a fun evening. I felt pretty good about myself and got all the way to the Masked Ninja in Ninja Ryukenden. Once I lost to him I didn't have the heart to go all the way back again. It's time to start exploring the library!

[roflmao]

Congrats, Duke!

[TR0N]

Looks like that pce needs some whiting duke 

[psychobear]

Haha I got the same thing in the mail today, well almost

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[soop]

hell.  yes.

That's m-sweet man.

[Duke.Togo]

Looks like that pce needs some whiting duke 

The pic makes it look much more yellow than it is, must be the lighting.

Thanks everyone, I'm looking forward to picking up a Turbo Everdrive when I can scratch up some more funds. In the mean time playing these two will keep me very busy.

[esteban]

I AM PROUD OF EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD.

Carry on.